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Had a deep discussion today about December 21, 2012

 
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Had a deep discussion today about December 21, 2012
Frankly put, it's been in the back of my mind for a while. Then today, it just flooded my mind all at once, "This may be it, are you ready to die?" We don't know what is going to happen, and that is the truth of it. All we have is what ifs right now. We have people's visions, Mayan prophecies, and alien voices that tell people what to expect, but we don't really know what will happen. Today, it just hit me like a ton of bricks, that I have to be ready, mentally, and spiritually, and even physically, for this day. It is approaching two weeks away. I sat on the couch and cried like a baby, with my husband holding me tight. I am worried, about this day, like no other. If some kind of solar event, wipes out most of humanity, I just pray that me and my family will end up on the other side together. That is all that matters, it isn't gifts, it isn't Christmas, it isn't what you have or don't have. All that matters right now, is those you love, and being with them here, or there on the other side. What do you think?
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I think that december 21 doesn't matter.
If something does happen, there is nothing to do about it, you just have to accept it.

If you somehow can do something, then act when the time comes, you can never plan for something that you don't know the nature of, you can only prepare mentally.

if nothing happens, then life goes on as it always have :)
don't let it all get you down, don't "doom" in advance hehe.

it isn't gifts, it isn't Christmas, it isn't what you have or don't have. All that matters right now, is those you love, and being with them here, or there on the other side. What do you think?
 Quoting: skyblau



those around you matter the most, and always will
but it doesn't have to take a doom scenario to realise does it? :)

btw, all this about the mayan calendar and december 21 is anyones guess, don't give in to the doom in advance, noone really knows if anything will happen at all.

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Yes it's hitting us like a ton of bricks, people are reacting in different ways ... lots of suicides lately (definitely the wrong reaction) but also lots of road rage, irritable people, lack of concentration, people not caring about anything -- then there's the alternative, those who are nurturing others and speaking out about who they love and being more affectionate.

You are lucky to have a husband to hold you. I cry alone. I do have grandchildren nearby and hold them every chance I get. A little fearful that I might not have much more time with them, so cherishing every possible moment. Can't discuss this with their parents or they'd think I'm nuts.
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I am sure that when that day comes, no one will say, "I only wished I had more time for playing Black Ops on the PS3" or "I only wished I had more time so I could go shopping." Nothing will matter except those that you love, and whether you are ready for the other side. I have had dreams of another earth, and I am there with my family. I can only hope that it is like that. I knew I wasn't on earth anymore, I was in a different kind of body, and I felt totally at peace. I don't feel an attachment to this world. Let the reptilians have it, let them have their polluted air, water and food. I feel we are closer now to leaving this third dimension of earth, and we don't have to be trapped here anymore. If we are ready to leave it behind, we will ascend to a better world. That is what I hope for.
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Yes it's hitting us like a ton of bricks, people are reacting in different ways ... lots of suicides lately (definitely the wrong reaction) but also lots of road rage, irritable people, lack of concentration, people not caring about anything -- then there's the alternative, those who are nurturing others and speaking out about who they love and being more affectionate.

You are lucky to have a husband to hold you. I cry alone. I do have grandchildren nearby and hold them every chance I get. A little fearful that I might not have much more time with them, so cherishing every possible moment. Can't discuss this with their parents or they'd think I'm nuts.
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hf You don't have to feel alone. If you need a friend, I am here. I find myself hugging my kids alot lately. It would be easy for my to lie in bed alot these next couple weeks. I have found myself quite mentally and physically exhausted, from all these bombarding energies around us. I am trying to laugh, trying to love more. I am going to do my best to leave resentment behind. I don't want anything weighing down my soul.
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Re: Had a deep discussion today about December 21, 2012
Not discounting the OP...

I appreciate the concern.


12/21/12:


"NON-EVENT".

You will wake up on 12/22/12 ... and be FINE.


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It's NOT a "DATE" ...

It's an "ERA"...

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I think that when that day comes and goes, no one is going to bother coming back to re-read posts like these and realise how much of a dumbass they sounded like.

Granted, I don't know what the 21st will bring any more than anyone else, but I DO know it won't be the end of the world...about the only thing I can guarantee is that on Dec. 22 there's going to be a whole lot of disappointed doomwhores.
Wouldn't it be great to heal the world, with only a song?
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Yes it's hitting us like a ton of bricks, people are reacting in different ways ... lots of suicides lately (definitely the wrong reaction) but also lots of road rage, irritable people, lack of concentration, people not caring about anything -- then there's the alternative, those who are nurturing others and speaking out about who they love and being more affectionate.

You are lucky to have a husband to hold you. I cry alone. I do have grandchildren nearby and hold them every chance I get. A little fearful that I might not have much more time with them, so cherishing every possible moment. Can't discuss this with their parents or they'd think I'm nuts.
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hf You don't have to feel alone. If you need a friend, I am here. I find myself hugging my kids alot lately. It would be easy for my to lie in bed alot these next couple weeks. I have found myself quite mentally and physically exhausted, from all these bombarding energies around us. I am trying to laugh, trying to love more. I am going to do my best to leave resentment behind. I don't want anything weighing down my soul.
 Quoting: skyblau


Thank you friend! I do have people I can talk to about this but sometimes it just gets to you, like it did to you today.

I've had visions of another earth also, pristine, green, harmonious, peaceful. I pray that the children and the gentle loving souls will be there and we will create a new world with no thought of gender, age, skin color, etc.

Funny the biggest thing that's been on my mind is that my grandson may not get to open his presents from Santa, silly really but it's the little things that stick in your mind sometimes.
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I feel the same way stress is really getting to me. I really hope nothing will happen. I don't get how someone can predict a DATE... sigh.
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Good God, I can't believe tards are still believing the "end of the world on 12/21" bullshit since it's been debunked 1,000,000 times.

Get a CLUE: The ancient Mayans merely ended their calendar on that date. That's all. There was ZERO commentary by them about the end of the world; others merely projected that crap into it. I always said, "How do we know the Mayans didn't just get tired of making calendars?" Subsequently, the NEXT calendar (the one that began on 12/22/2012) was discovered, as featured on the Discovery Channel. That proves unequivocally that 12/21/2012 was merely the end of a cycle/era/epoch, as I and others had surmised.

Most likely, NOTHING will happen on 12/21/2012. There MAY be some earth changes, but it won't be the "end of the world" by any stretch.
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Nothing is going to happen. Other than a bunch of tards being made to look like idiots, that is.
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Hey, a message to the people who are worrying about Dec 21, 2012.

Look, every year the calendar you use comes to an end. You go out and buy a new calendar.

The Mayans made a calendar for a specified period of time. It comes to an end. If they were still around today, they would be carving a new calendar for the next cycle of time.
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Re: Had a deep discussion today about December 21, 2012
Good God, I can't believe tards are still believing the "end of the world on 12/21" bullshit since it's been debunked 1,000,000 times.

Get a CLUE: The ancient Mayans merely ended their calendar on that date. That's all. There was ZERO commentary by them about the end of the world; others merely projected that crap into it. I always said, "How do we know the Mayans didn't just get tired of making calendars?" Subsequently, the NEXT calendar (the one that began on 12/22/2012) was discovered, as featured on the Discovery Channel. That proves unequivocally that 12/21/2012 was merely the end of a cycle/era/epoch, as I and others had surmised.

Most likely, NOTHING will happen on 12/21/2012. There MAY be some earth changes, but it won't be the "end of the world" by any stretch.
 Quoting: Hahahaa 28872856


The Mayans were incredible astronomers and predicted astronomical events correctly for thousands of years, even lunar eclipses. On 12/21/2012 our solar system will align with the galactic central sun, the dark rift in the Milky Way galaxy, an event that happens every 25,800 years.

The I Ching, Timewave Zero, the Hopi, and from India claiming the end of Kali Yuga all agree on this date. The Mayans did not use pointless calendars like our Gregorian one, they used actual astronomical events.
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I think that when that day comes and goes, no one is going to bother coming back to re-read posts like these and realise how much of a dumbass they sounded like.

Granted, I don't know what the 21st will bring any more than anyone else, but I DO know it won't be the end of the world...about the only thing I can guarantee is that on Dec. 22 there's going to be a whole lot of disappointed doomwhores.
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Hope you are right coffeecup
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I would like too think that nothing would happen also. But I have prepared for an event anyways. That being said.

I don't think the Planet itself will completely self destruct either but there may be changes.

Somthing is going to happen for sure though. What who knows.

The mayans were extremely accurate with their calender and this date has some special significance otherwise why not end it on some other date. If the coming alignment had no great significance then they would have skipped right over it and marked it on the Calendar like Christmas or a Birthday and kept going. There is somthing more to all this. We won't know till we arrive there.
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What time on 12/21 is it going to happen ?


Anybody know?
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Clyde Lewis (Ground Zero) is live right now on radio and talking about them doing the mother of all experiments at CERN on the 21st.

The talk is whether they are mocking our doom talk or they are the problem, don't know
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Re: Had a deep discussion today about December 21, 2012
honestly, I think you're all retarded. So a "mayan" says it.

Apparently mexicans have some newfound credibility when they are labeled as a mayan..

god... what a fucking joke.

And you mistake, me, the shit can hit the fan at any time, we can be imprisoned, executed, jailed... hell... we live in a communist banana republic now...

For fucks sake I can't wait until you older neckbeards and mayan fans die off, like "mayan" is some bade of honor.. or a citation to a source.

absolute retards
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Re: Had a deep discussion today about December 21, 2012
I think for us it will be at 5:10 am on the 21st. We live in Oklahoma. Adjust your time zone with that knowledge. You can use "time and date" website for help.
My dear friend,we celebrated Christmas early already. I wanted to give my boys Christmas so they could enjoy their presents. My youngest got a sleepy lamb that makes whale sounds to help him with his bad dreams, a wooden bow and arrow set, and a doll that makes noise when you punch the heck out of it. My middle child got a really nice bb gun with zombie targets. My oldest son gets money to go on his trip to see his dad. He won't be with me on the 21st. I worry about his safety. I have to trust, his dad will take care of him. We didn't waste money on decorations this year, or a tree. I didn't see the point of it. My boys were happy to get Christmas early and out of the way. We are planning a vacation though on the 20th. It will be a family christmas present. I have never gotten to take my family on a vacation, so it will be our last hooray if anything happens. I plan on opening up a bottle of wine, and watching the sky all night. Praying that everything will be fine.
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this guy says our sun will burp soon as well
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maybe this cycle will end all cycles

it is called the shift of the Ages

this particular one is closing soon every 26,000 years

how do you know what happens when a 26,000 year cycle closes

perhaps our sun plays a vital role
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Re: Had a deep discussion today about December 21, 2012
Couple of things here.

The exact time of the end of the current age is at 11:11 in the a.m.

Now, as to wether or not there will be an "event." No one knows for sure but perhaps you can see it this way:

It is the first day of a cosmic spring. New thoughts and ideas for the better.
However, the full effects may take some time.

In other words, does it snow on the first day of winter?
Are there flowers on the first day of spring?

Not usually. It may take a bit for the new energy to integrate.
Or maybe not...

Blessings

JB
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Re: Had a deep discussion today about December 21, 2012
Couple of things here.

The exact time of the end of the current age is at 11:11 in the a.m.

Now, as to wether or not there will be an "event." No one knows for sure but perhaps you can see it this way:

It is the first day of a cosmic spring. New thoughts and ideas for the better.
However, the full effects may take some time.

In other words, does it snow on the first day of winter?
Are there flowers on the first day of spring?

Not usually. It may take a bit for the new energy to integrate.
Or maybe not...

Blessings

JB
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perhaps dec 21, 2012 is the beginning of the end

and the real omega point is march 21, 2013 on the precision of the equinoxes
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Re: Had a deep discussion today about December 21, 2012
Couple of things here.

The exact time of the end of the current age is at 11:11 in the a.m.

Now, as to wether or not there will be an "event." No one knows for sure but perhaps you can see it this way:

It is the first day of a cosmic spring. New thoughts and ideas for the better.
However, the full effects may take some time.

In other words, does it snow on the first day of winter?
Are there flowers on the first day of spring?

Not usually. It may take a bit for the new energy to integrate.
Or maybe not...

Blessings

JB
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When I see it that way, all I see is more failed predictors pulling a chipg and pushing their doom date up yet again. Hell, Dec.21 is supposed to be the BIG ONE....they day hasn't even arrived yet and the doomwhores are already talking about March 2013.
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What time on 12/21 is it going to happen ?


Anybody know?
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11:11 but what time zone i am not sure
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Yeah I heard about March as well. I had a dream that took place a few years in the future. It was four years from now. I don't know if it was me or not, but it was a man and a woman. It was a first person perspective. Anyway, the woman and man are on the run, from foreign soldiers in the US, trying to stay out of the camps. There was war here in the US. Chinese and Russian foreign troops were here. They were killing those that weren't on the outside of the camps. The man and woman were looking for food, and stumbled upon a make shift camp with a few people. There were two families. A woman and a child, and another woman with her two children. Their men were on watch. The lady of the camp with the two kids offers the woman a meal. I was aware of how dirty, and thin the woman who had been on the run was. She seemed ashamed. She asked the lady with the kids, how long the war had been going on. She said "Four years". The lady was most helpful, she told her how her husband obtained canned food. She said they traded homeade wine that they made, for food. They were doing well, and her kids looked healthy, and clean. I sure hope that this isn't me in the dream of the lady on the run. I would rather die than be on earth without my kids, in this hellhole. Maybe I was seeing another persons perspective, in the future. Or maybe it was just a dream. But it seemed vivid. If life continues on after December there will be war soon afterward. It will not be good in the US. It would be better to hope for death, than live like that.
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Re: Had a deep discussion today about December 21, 2012
Couple of things here.

The exact time of the end of the current age is at 11:11 in the a.m.

Now, as to wether or not there will be an "event." No one knows for sure but perhaps you can see it this way:

It is the first day of a cosmic spring. New thoughts and ideas for the better.
However, the full effects may take some time.

In other words, does it snow on the first day of winter?
Are there flowers on the first day of spring?

Not usually. It may take a bit for the new energy to integrate.
Or maybe not...

Blessings

JB
 Quoting: jb 13374512


When I see it that way, all I see is more failed predictors pulling a chipg and pushing their doom date up yet again. Hell, Dec.21 is supposed to be the BIG ONE....they day hasn't even arrived yet and the doomwhores are already talking about March 2013.
 Quoting: The Myth


don't be in denial of the end of the world as you know it, it is already happening now

the only relief of this suffering would be a reboot and or a dimensional shift of some sort

All the crop circles, prophecies, end time calendars, earth changes, magnetic poles shifting, underground bases, ufos sightings in the sky, countless videos and talks on the subject, ancient texts and religious texts, Norway seed vault, alien technology all for what, no doom, no change, just a gradual die off of our planet and humanity

what the fuck are you smoking you denial tard

wake up its the fucking end, omega point

its over
wake up

we are graduating soon
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Yeah I heard about March as well. I had a dream that took place a few years in the future. It was four years from now. I don't know if it was me or not, but it was a man and a woman. It was a first person perspective. Anyway, the woman and man are on the run, from foreign soldiers in the US, trying to stay out of the camps. There was war here in the US. Chinese and Russian foreign troops were here. They were killing those that weren't on the outside of the camps. The man and woman were looking for food, and stumbled upon a make shift camp with a few people. There were two families. A woman and a child, and another woman with her two children. Their men were on watch. The lady of the camp with the two kids offers the woman a meal. I was aware of how dirty, and thin the woman who had been on the run was. She seemed ashamed. She asked the lady with the kids, how long the war had been going on. She said "Four years". The lady was most helpful, she told her how her husband obtained canned food. She said they traded homeade wine that they made, for food. They were doing well, and her kids looked healthy, and clean. I sure hope that this isn't me in the dream of the lady on the run. I would rather die than be on earth without my kids, in this hellhole. Maybe I was seeing another persons perspective, in the future. Or maybe it was just a dream. But it seemed vivid. If life continues on after December there will be war soon afterward. It will not be good in the US. It would be better to hope for death, than live like that.
 Quoting: skyblau


i also heard William Cooper, Phil Sneider both assassinated talk about 2017

they mentioned the population would be drastically culled down to 500 million by this time

i don't know if he meant the government doing this with a war or a disease or by natural disasters like a pole shift or something

2012 could be a smoke screen , maybe the real doom is 4 to 5 years from now

i also met a Squamish chief Native Indian and he mentioned there would be a large world earthquake on 2017

anyways that is all i got

peace and love
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Re: Had a deep discussion today about December 21, 2012
Couple of things here.

The exact time of the end of the current age is at 11:11 in the a.m.

Now, as to wether or not there will be an "event." No one knows for sure but perhaps you can see it this way:

It is the first day of a cosmic spring. New thoughts and ideas for the better.
However, the full effects may take some time.

In other words, does it snow on the first day of winter?
Are there flowers on the first day of spring?

Not usually. It may take a bit for the new energy to integrate.
Or maybe not...

Blessings

JB
 Quoting: jb 13374512


When I see it that way, all I see is more failed predictors pulling a chipg and pushing their doom date up yet again. Hell, Dec.21 is supposed to be the BIG ONE....they day hasn't even arrived yet and the doomwhores are already talking about March 2013.
 Quoting: The Myth


don't be in denial of the end of the world as you know it, it is already happening now

the only relief of this suffering would be a reboot and or a dimensional shift of some sort

All the crop circles, prophecies, end time calendars, earth changes, magnetic poles shifting, underground bases, ufos sightings in the sky, countless videos and talks on the subject, ancient texts and religious texts, Norway seed vault, alien technology all for what, no doom, no change, just a gradual die off of our planet and humanity

what the fuck are you smoking you denial tard

wake up its the fucking end, omega point

its over
wake up

we are graduating soon
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I added this thread to my favorites, just so I can bump this post on March 22, 2013...we'll see who the tard is then....
Wouldn't it be great to heal the world, with only a song?
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Re: Had a deep discussion today about December 21, 2012
Couple of things here.

The exact time of the end of the current age is at 11:11 in the a.m.

Now, as to wether or not there will be an "event." No one knows for sure but perhaps you can see it this way:

It is the first day of a cosmic spring. New thoughts and ideas for the better.
However, the full effects may take some time.

In other words, does it snow on the first day of winter?
Are there flowers on the first day of spring?

Not usually. It may take a bit for the new energy to integrate.
Or maybe not...

Blessings

JB
 Quoting: jb 13374512


When I see it that way, all I see is more failed predictors pulling a chipg and pushing their doom date up yet again. Hell, Dec.21 is supposed to be the BIG ONE....they day hasn't even arrived yet and the doomwhores are already talking about March 2013.
 Quoting: The Myth


don't be in denial of the end of the world as you know it, it is already happening now

the only relief of this suffering would be a reboot and or a dimensional shift of some sort

All the crop circles, prophecies, end time calendars, earth changes, magnetic poles shifting, underground bases, ufos sightings in the sky, countless videos and talks on the subject, ancient texts and religious texts, Norway seed vault, alien technology all for what, no doom, no change, just a gradual die off of our planet and humanity

what the fuck are you smoking you denial tard

wake up its the fucking end, omega point

its over
wake up

we are graduating soon
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I added this thread to my favorites, just so I can bump this post on March 22, 2013...we'll see who the tard is then....
 Quoting: The Myth


go ahead, but look around you, the earth is dying, they are still pumping oil out of the Earth, they are still destroying the planet, the animals, insects and marine life are dying, the plants are dying, genetic modified food, there are no more minerals in the soil, WTF is your problem , are you in denial of this

what is the obvious conclusion

either humanity will be wiped off the planet either by our sun, pole shift or there is going to be a galactic reboot of some sort, dimensional shift
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Re: Had a deep discussion today about December 21, 2012
Yeah I heard about March as well. I had a dream that took place a few years in the future. It was four years from now. I don't know if it was me or not, but it was a man and a woman. It was a first person perspective. Anyway, the woman and man are on the run, from foreign soldiers in the US, trying to stay out of the camps. There was war here in the US. Chinese and Russian foreign troops were here. They were killing those that weren't on the outside of the camps. The man and woman were looking for food, and stumbled upon a make shift camp with a few people. There were two families. A woman and a child, and another woman with her two children. Their men were on watch. The lady of the camp with the two kids offers the woman a meal. I was aware of how dirty, and thin the woman who had been on the run was. She seemed ashamed. She asked the lady with the kids, how long the war had been going on. She said "Four years". The lady was most helpful, she told her how her husband obtained canned food. She said they traded homeade wine that they made, for food. They were doing well, and her kids looked healthy, and clean. I sure hope that this isn't me in the dream of the lady on the run. I would rather die than be on earth without my kids, in this hellhole. Maybe I was seeing another persons perspective, in the future. Or maybe it was just a dream. But it seemed vivid. If life continues on after December there will be war soon afterward. It will not be good in the US. It would be better to hope for death, than live like that.
 Quoting: skyblau


i also heard William Cooper, Phil Sneider both assassinated talk about 2017

they mentioned the population would be drastically culled down to 500 million by this time

i don't know if he meant the government doing this with a war or a disease or by natural disasters like a pole shift or something

2012 could be a smoke screen , maybe the real doom is 4 to 5 years from now

i also met a Squamish chief Native Indian and he mentioned there would be a large world earthquake on 2017

anyways that is all i got

peace and love
 Quoting: jacksprat

I would believe they would cull the population to that. I also think it will be foreign soldiers on US soil that do the culling. No US soldier would shoot his fellow American on our own soil. I think this is the reason why Obama is buddying up with the UN. He will use foreign troops as "peacekeepers" after the riots start, and then they will go on a shooting spree, throwing people in camps, shooting those that don't comply etc. I have seen all that in dreams. It will be people that are wearing black that do house to house searches for occupants. Those that don't come along quietly but try to hide will be shot on sight. This world is changing alright, not for the good. My husband had a dream once "..17 you won't see her anymore." I take that to mean 2017, I always think it was about me. This world has been terraformed for the reptilian race, they will either have us put in camps, or shot. Those that are put in camps will work for them, cleaning fruit and vegetables things like that,or manufacturing goods, we will be like slaves again just like when they were here long time ago, mining gold for them. If people don't take the mark which would be like how they branded slaves with ear marks, or how cattle is marked etc. This is what an rfid is for, their high tech version of keeping the slaves in check. This is the whole scope idea of the NWO. We don't have to wait for them to return, they are already here.

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