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Sea level rise is BULLSHIT...here is how I know for sure.

 
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Sea level rise is BULLSHIT...here is how I know for sure.
Not far from where I live is a dock I used to hang out as a teen.

When fishing there one day I scribbled some graffiti into the pylon..etched in so it would not fade. I did it JUST above the high tide mark.

That was 30 years ago.

That bit of scribble is still there...and the high water mark has not budged an inch in 30 years.

So..if the sea level is rising then it would have at lease move a single millimeter by now..but it hasnt.

So all those places that THINK they are getting sea level rise..are NOT..they are in fact..SINKING.
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I thought you were gonna tell us that you stick out of the water more than you did 30 years ago... and therefore the sea level is actually falling.

;)
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It's only risen less than a half inch in the past 20 years but it's going to get worse.

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I wonder what your grandkid will think of your mark and your opinion when he's grown...
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I thought you were gonna tell us that you stick out of the water more than you did 30 years ago... and therefore the sea level is actually falling.

;)
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LOL...thats what a MERKAN would probably say by way of "Proof"..


What I am saying..is that mark I made 30 years ago JUST above the water line..is STILL..JUST above the waterline..exactly where it was 30 years ago.

The waterline there is very even cause the water is calm...and the mark is exactly the same.

Now..one would thing that if the oceans were rising on one side of the world..they would rise on the other.

But we know that if we pour water inot a lake the whole lake RISES..NOT JUST ONE END OF IT.

So..sea level rise is utter CRAP..I have proof of it not three k from me.

Also the docks further up the coast still have the same water marks they had 30 years ago when I went there with my dad.

Global warming and sea level rise is utter crap.
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This new study wipes out yet another false claim from climate change deniers, too. A common refrain from them is that Antarctic ice is increasing, not decreasing. However, this is not true for two reasons. The first is that they count sea ice in that measure. However, Antarctic sea ice tends to melt away completely every year in the spring and summer, and then it reforms in the winter. It therefore on average does not contribute to sea level rise or to the heat budget of the Earth. Second, this new study shows the claim is wrong anyway. We are losing ice from Antarctica every year, and it’s the critical land ice.

But this is nothing new when it comes to denier claims. Between cherry-picking data that supports their argument but ignores huge amounts of evidence refuting them, displaying misleading graphs, and out-and-out witch hunts and attacks, very little of what they claim is true.

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It's only risen less than a half inch in the past 20 years but it's going to get worse.

[link to mobile.slate.com]

I wonder what your grandkid will think of your mark and your opinion when he's grown...
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Less than half an inch..would be a about a centimeter...and Im telling ya..the mark has not even moved a millimeter. I put the etching about 1mm above the high tide line.

ITS STILL 1mm above the high tide line.

EXPLAIN?
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I thought you were gonna tell us that you stick out of the water more than you did 30 years ago... and therefore the sea level is actually falling.

;)
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LOL...thats what a MERKAN would probably say by way of "Proof"..


What I am saying..is that mark I made 30 years ago JUST above the water line..is STILL..JUST above the waterline..exactly where it was 30 years ago.

The waterline there is very even cause the water is calm...and the mark is exactly the same.

Now..one would thing that if the oceans were rising on one side of the world..they would rise on the other.

But we know that if we pour water inot a lake the whole lake RISES..NOT JUST ONE END OF IT.

So..sea level rise is utter CRAP..I have proof of it not three k from me.

Also the docks further up the coast still have the same water marks they had 30 years ago when I went there with my dad.

Global warming and sea level rise is utter crap.
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I understood what you said. They want us all running around like Chicken Little... mindless masses are more easily controlled.
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It's only risen less than a half inch in the past 20 years but it's going to get worse.

[link to mobile.slate.com]

I wonder what your grandkid will think of your mark and your opinion when he's grown...
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Less than half an inch..would be a about a centimeter...and Im telling ya..the mark has not even moved a millimeter. I put the etching about 1mm above the high tide line.

ITS STILL 1mm above the high tide line.

EXPLAIN?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17621261


Your methodology isn't that rigorous, you know.

I'm biased toward SCIENTIFIC STUDIES over Australian anecdotes.
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It's only risen less than a half inch in the past 20 years but it's going to get worse.

[link to mobile.slate.com]

I wonder what your grandkid will think of your mark and your opinion when he's grown...
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Less than half an inch..would be a about a centimeter...and Im telling ya..the mark has not even moved a millimeter. I put the etching about 1mm above the high tide line.

ITS STILL 1mm above the high tide line.

EXPLAIN?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17621261


Your methodology isn't that rigorous, you know.

I'm biased toward SCIENTIFIC STUDIES over Australian anecdotes.
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Well if its NOT that rigorous..you should have NO trouble at all explaining how a mark made 1mm above a high tide mark 30 years ago is STILL 1mm above the high tide mark today.

So..lets hear YOUR rigorous explaination.

Waiting.
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All the scare stories about climate in the last fifty years have turned out to be bullshit. Only braindead sheep still believe the assholes that are spreading this nonsense.
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It's only risen less than a half inch in the past 20 years but it's going to get worse.

[link to mobile.slate.com]

I wonder what your grandkid will think of your mark and your opinion when he's grown...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13420143


Less than half an inch..would be a about a centimeter...and Im telling ya..the mark has not even moved a millimeter. I put the etching about 1mm above the high tide line.

ITS STILL 1mm above the high tide line.

EXPLAIN?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17621261


Your methodology isn't that rigorous, you know.

I'm biased toward SCIENTIFIC STUDIES over Australian anecdotes.
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Typical commies spreading lies as usual.
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[link to stevengoddard.wordpress.com]

Nothing changed.

Democrats lying as usual.
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Re: Sea level rise is BULLSHIT...here is how I know for sure.
see the think is this.... I'm all for more nature and less pollution and the like - dirty rivers/oceans, concrete jungles, landfill, deforestation, morons....

but what scientists (acting as politicians' mouth pieces) are trying to force down people's throats is usually bs, and more importantly, does not solve any of the above mentioned problems. the only thing they seem to want is to charge us for the filth that their corpoaration produce. and that's what it's all big fat


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It's only risen less than a half inch in the past 20 years but it's going to get worse.

[link to mobile.slate.com]

I wonder what your grandkid will think of your mark and your opinion when he's grown...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13420143


Less than half an inch..would be a about a centimeter...and Im telling ya..the mark has not even moved a millimeter. I put the etching about 1mm above the high tide line.

ITS STILL 1mm above the high tide line.

EXPLAIN?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17621261


Your methodology isn't that rigorous, you know.

I'm biased toward SCIENTIFIC STUDIES over Australian anecdotes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13420143


Typical commies spreading lies as usual.
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I notice he has YET to give me an explaination..

He cant..cause the facts are the facts and FACTS make NO MONEY for the GW cabal.
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It's only risen less than a half inch in the past 20 years but it's going to get worse.

[link to mobile.slate.com]

I wonder what your grandkid will think of your mark and your opinion when he's grown...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13420143


Less than half an inch..would be a about a centimeter...and Im telling ya..the mark has not even moved a millimeter. I put the etching about 1mm above the high tide line.

ITS STILL 1mm above the high tide line.

EXPLAIN?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17621261


Your methodology isn't that rigorous, you know.

I'm biased toward SCIENTIFIC STUDIES over Australian anecdotes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13420143


Well if its NOT that rigorous..you should have NO trouble at all explaining how a mark made 1mm above a high tide mark 30 years ago is STILL 1mm above the high tide mark today.

So..lets hear YOUR rigorous explaination.

Waiting.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17621261


Maybe you didn't make your mark exactly at high tide on that day 30 years ago. Maybe you didn't observe it exactly at high tide 30 years later.

Maybe the water was a little warmer then and a little colder when you last looked at it.

Maybe your cove has gotten a little deeper in the intervening years, some mud got removed.

You can't control for those and other possibilities, you only have ONE mark and this is why I say it's not informative on such a small scale of rise.

I'll be impressed if it still looks the same in another 20 years.
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[link to stevengoddard.wordpress.com]

Nothing changed.

Democrats lying as usual.
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You're such a moron.
pick

You've never posted one single thing on GLP that's actually true.
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Less than half an inch..would be a about a centimeter...and Im telling ya..the mark has not even moved a millimeter. I put the etching about 1mm above the high tide line.

ITS STILL 1mm above the high tide line.

EXPLAIN?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17621261


Your methodology isn't that rigorous, you know.

I'm biased toward SCIENTIFIC STUDIES over Australian anecdotes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13420143


Well if its NOT that rigorous..you should have NO trouble at all explaining how a mark made 1mm above a high tide mark 30 years ago is STILL 1mm above the high tide mark today.

So..lets hear YOUR rigorous explaination.

Waiting.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17621261


Maybe you didn't make your mark exactly at high tide on that day 30 years ago. Maybe you didn't observe it exactly at high tide 30 years later.

Maybe the water was a little warmer then and a little colder when you last looked at it.

Maybe your cove has gotten a little deeper in the intervening years, some mud got removed.

You can't control for those and other possibilities, you only have ONE mark and this is why I say it's not informative on such a small scale of rise.

I'll be impressed if it still looks the same in another 20 years.
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Since WHEN have "MAYBE THIS" or MAYBE THAT" been considered RIGOROUS methodology?

You see...Im going by FACTS..what I have OBSERVED over the las 30 years.

YOU however have a bunch of MABY'S...

Thats all the global warming idots ever have..guesses..NO observed FACTS>

Like I said..the mark has NOT MOVED. I see it almost every week when I walk past it..its STILL THERE. The dock has NOT changed a bit either.

Solid contruction BUILT to last.

IT HAS lasted..and SO has that mark I put on it 30 years ago..and the high tide mark is STILL 1mm BELOW the bottim of that mark.

So you can MAYBE all you like..go raise some cash with it..works for Al Gore...but as fo me im sticking with what I KNOW to be a COLD HARD OBSERVABLE UNDISPUTABLE FACT.

But facts make NO MONEY..thats wht the global warming sea level rise COCKHEADS dont USE em..they stick to MAYBES.
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It's only risen less than a half inch in the past 20 years but it's going to get worse.

[link to mobile.slate.com]

I wonder what your grandkid will think of your mark and your opinion when he's grown...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13420143


Less than half an inch..would be a about a centimeter...and Im telling ya..the mark has not even moved a millimeter. I put the etching about 1mm above the high tide line.

ITS STILL 1mm above the high tide line.

EXPLAIN?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17621261


Your methodology isn't that rigorous, you know.

I'm biased toward SCIENTIFIC STUDIES over Australian anecdotes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13420143


Well if its NOT that rigorous..you should have NO trouble at all explaining how a mark made 1mm above a high tide mark 30 years ago is STILL 1mm above the high tide mark today.

So..lets hear YOUR rigorous explaination.

Waiting.
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Global warming evaporated all the extra water that should have been there.ohyeah
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Less than half an inch..would be a about a centimeter...and Im telling ya..the mark has not even moved a millimeter. I put the etching about 1mm above the high tide line.

ITS STILL 1mm above the high tide line.

EXPLAIN?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17621261


Your methodology isn't that rigorous, you know.

I'm biased toward SCIENTIFIC STUDIES over Australian anecdotes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13420143


Well if its NOT that rigorous..you should have NO trouble at all explaining how a mark made 1mm above a high tide mark 30 years ago is STILL 1mm above the high tide mark today.

So..lets hear YOUR rigorous explaination.

Waiting.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17621261

Global warming evaporated all the extra water that should have been there.ohyeah
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So the sea level rise is exactly the same as the rate of evaporation....so the level does not change.

Then where has all that water gone?

Probably made like a bird and flew to the moon...or mercury perhaps..thus explaining why there is so much water on mercury.
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How do you explain this?
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Maybe your cove has gotten a little deeper in the intervening years, some mud got removed.
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Errrr... what? Dredging out the mud won't make the sea level lower locally you know! You don't end up with a hole in the water where you dredged the mud out of the bottom! The water flows to level out!!!!
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How do you explain this?
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Thats called STORM DAMAGE AND EROSION.

Next.
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Not far from where I live is a dock I used to hang out as a teen.

When fishing there one day I scribbled some graffiti into the pylon..etched in so it would not fade. I did it JUST above the high tide mark.

That was 30 years ago.

That bit of scribble is still there...and the high water mark has not budged an inch in 30 years.

So..if the sea level is rising then it would have at lease move a single millimeter by now..but it hasnt.

So all those places that THINK they are getting sea level rise..are NOT..they are in fact..SINKING.
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You posted this in Luisports thread a few weeks back. Just because your specific area didn't rise doesn't debunk the whole world. But i agree that the sea level rise is probably bogus.

Last Edited by Dapurps on 12/06/2012 10:47 PM
"What you perceive to be becomes your reality."

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Not far from where I live is a dock I used to hang out as a teen.

When fishing there one day I scribbled some graffiti into the pylon..etched in so it would not fade. I did it JUST above the high tide mark.

That was 30 years ago.

That bit of scribble is still there...and the high water mark has not budged an inch in 30 years.

So..if the sea level is rising then it would have at lease move a single millimeter by now..but it hasnt.

So all those places that THINK they are getting sea level rise..are NOT..they are in fact..SINKING.
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You posted this in Luisports thread a few weeks back. Just because your specific area didn't rise doesn't debunk the whole world. But i agree that the sea level rise is probably bogus.
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The water level is the water level..water ALWAYS finds its own level..its a LAW of physics.

So..HOW can water rise on ONE side of the earth and NOT the other..seeing as ALL the oceans of the world are CONNECTED and flow constantly in currents?
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Not far from where I live is a dock I used to hang out as a teen.

When fishing there one day I scribbled some graffiti into the pylon..etched in so it would not fade. I did it JUST above the high tide mark.

That was 30 years ago.

That bit of scribble is still there...and the high water mark has not budged an inch in 30 years.

So..if the sea level is rising then it would have at lease move a single millimeter by now..but it hasnt.

So all those places that THINK they are getting sea level rise..are NOT..they are in fact..SINKING.
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Graffiti on a pylon. Wow, I'm convinced. You are the MAN. Can I send you $100,000. for this indepth study?

So all we needed all along was a stick stuck in the mud?whatever
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Maybe your cove has gotten a little deeper in the intervening years, some mud got removed.
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Errrr... what? Dredging out the mud won't make the sea level lower locally you know! You don't end up with a hole in the water where you dredged the mud out of the bottom! The water flows to level out!!!!
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Yes, I realized I made that stupid mistake after I posted it.
Hey, I'm not a scientist.
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Not far from where I live is a dock I used to hang out as a teen.

When fishing there one day I scribbled some graffiti into the pylon..etched in so it would not fade. I did it JUST above the high tide mark.

That was 30 years ago.

That bit of scribble is still there...and the high water mark has not budged an inch in 30 years.

So..if the sea level is rising then it would have at lease move a single millimeter by now..but it hasnt.

So all those places that THINK they are getting sea level rise..are NOT..they are in fact..SINKING.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17621261


You posted this in Luisports thread a few weeks back. Just because your specific area didn't rise doesn't debunk the whole world. But i agree that the sea level rise is probably bogus.
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The water level is the water level..water ALWAYS finds its own level..its a LAW of physics.

Oh my--where to begin? I know - 5th grade geography!
So..HOW can water rise on ONE side of the earth and NOT the other..seeing as ALL the oceans of the world are CONNECTED and flow constantly in currents?
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Not far from where I live is a dock I used to hang out as a teen.

When fishing there one day I scribbled some graffiti into the pylon..etched in so it would not fade. I did it JUST above the high tide mark.

That was 30 years ago.

That bit of scribble is still there...and the high water mark has not budged an inch in 30 years.

So..if the sea level is rising then it would have at lease move a single millimeter by now..but it hasnt.

So all those places that THINK they are getting sea level rise..are NOT..they are in fact..SINKING.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17621261


You posted this in Luisports thread a few weeks back. Just because your specific area didn't rise doesn't debunk the whole world. But i agree that the sea level rise is probably bogus.
 Quoting: Dapurps


The water level is the water level..water ALWAYS finds its own level..its a LAW of physics.

So..HOW can water rise on ONE side of the earth and NOT the other..seeing as ALL the oceans of the world are CONNECTED and flow constantly in currents?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18239908


I was going to say well OP never said where he put his Graffiti mark but ya i had a serious brain fart when thinking my first post thru. So ya you're right.
"What you perceive to be becomes your reality."

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Not far from where I live is a dock I used to hang out as a teen.

When fishing there one day I scribbled some graffiti into the pylon..etched in so it would not fade. I did it JUST above the high tide mark.

That was 30 years ago.

That bit of scribble is still there...and the high water mark has not budged an inch in 30 years.

So..if the sea level is rising then it would have at lease move a single millimeter by now..but it hasnt.

So all those places that THINK they are getting sea level rise..are NOT..they are in fact..SINKING.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17621261


You posted this in Luisports thread a few weeks back. Just because your specific area didn't rise doesn't debunk the whole world. But i agree that the sea level rise is probably bogus.
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The water level is the water level..water ALWAYS finds its own level..its a LAW of physics.

Oh my--where to begin? I know - 5th grade geography!
So..HOW can water rise on ONE side of the earth and NOT the other..seeing as ALL the oceans of the world are CONNECTED and flow constantly in currents?
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Oh my--where to begin? I know - 5th grade geography!
Damn! Fixed it. (Sort of)
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This is true, and the same premise applies from observable proof from those actually using critical thinking.

Two weeks ago SMH ran an article (in the W.A. version) that sea levels in Western Australia were somehow rising at 3 times the national average, and cited that over recent decades it had been rising at an annual rise level of 9 mm or thereabouts as a 'fact'.

But this extrapolated, to those actually using the ocean, to about 0.3 metres or so over the past 30 years roughly. For those surfing the local reefs for that amount of time, they know for a fact that this would now mean these same reefs would be exposed today. Yet they remain at virtually the same depth (easily observed and measured in summer time when the water is flat as) today as they were 30 years ago.

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