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Many 'give their lives to Jesus' to use however he wishes but nothing ever happens, yet they proclaim themselves saved. Are they?

 
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"Of what benefit is it, my brothers, if a certain one says he has faith but he does not have works? That faith cannot save him, can it? 15 If a brother or a sister is in a naked state and lacking the food sufficient for the day, 16 yet a certain one of YOU says to them: “Go in peace, keep warm and well fed,” but YOU do not give them the necessities for [their] body, of what benefit is it? 17 Thus, too, faith, if it does not have works, is dead in itself.
18 Nevertheless, a certain one will say: “You have faith, and I have works. Show me your faith apart from the works, and I shall show you my faith by my works.” 19 You believe there is one God, do you? You are doing quite well. And yet the demons believe and shudder. 20 But do you care to know, O empty man, that faith apart from works is inactive? 21 Was not Abraham our father declared righteous by works after he had offered up Isaac his son upon the altar? 22 You behold that [his] faith worked along with his works and by [his] works [his] faith was perfected, 23 and the scripture was fulfilled which says: “Abraham put faith in Jehovah, and it was counted to him as righteousness,” and he came to be called “Jehovah’s friend.”
24 YOU see that a man is to be declared righteous by works, and not by faith alone.' Ja2:14

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Only God and that person would know.
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Sounds to me like your at that point in your life were being literal about the bible starts taking on a bit of irony?
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"Of what benefit is it, my brothers, if a certain one says he has faith but he does not have works? That faith cannot save him, can it? 15 If a brother or a sister is in a naked state and lacking the food sufficient for the day, 16 yet a certain one of YOU says to them: “Go in peace, keep warm and well fed,” but YOU do not give them the necessities for [their] body, of what benefit is it? 17 Thus, too, faith, if it does not have works, is dead in itself.
18 Nevertheless, a certain one will say: “You have faith, and I have works. Show me your faith apart from the works, and I shall show you my faith by my works.” 19 You believe there is one God, do you? You are doing quite well. And yet the demons believe and shudder. 20 But do you care to know, O empty man, that faith apart from works is inactive? 21 Was not Abraham our father declared righteous by works after he had offered up Isaac his son upon the altar? 22 You behold that [his] faith worked along with his works and by [his] works [his] faith was perfected, 23 and the scripture was fulfilled which says: “Abraham put faith in Jehovah, and it was counted to him as righteousness,” and he came to be called “Jehovah’s friend.”
24 YOU see that a man is to be declared righteous by works, and not by faith alone.' Ja2:14
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Hypocrite.

Yu rave at others about NOT giving their lives to Jesus totally..and yet YOU have utterly ignored Him and given YOUR life to the WTS...an organization that was founded by a spiritist who now lies dead under a masonic pyramid just down the road from a masonc lodge.

Ironic eh?
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"Of what benefit is it, my brothers, if a certain one says he has faith but he does not have works? That faith cannot save him, can it? 15 If a brother or a sister is in a naked state and lacking the food sufficient for the day, 16 yet a certain one of YOU says to them: “Go in peace, keep warm and well fed,” but YOU do not give them the necessities for [their] body, of what benefit is it? 17 Thus, too, faith, if it does not have works, is dead in itself.
18 Nevertheless, a certain one will say: “You have faith, and I have works. Show me your faith apart from the works, and I shall show you my faith by my works.” 19 You believe there is one God, do you? You are doing quite well. And yet the demons believe and shudder. 20 But do you care to know, O empty man, that faith apart from works is inactive? 21 Was not Abraham our father declared righteous by works after he had offered up Isaac his son upon the altar? 22 You behold that [his] faith worked along with his works and by [his] works [his] faith was perfected, 23 and the scripture was fulfilled which says: “Abraham put faith in Jehovah, and it was counted to him as righteousness,” and he came to be called “Jehovah’s friend.”
24 YOU see that a man is to be declared righteous by works, and not by faith alone.' Ja2:14
 Quoting: DGN


Hypocrite.

Yu rave at others about NOT giving their lives to Jesus totally..and yet YOU have utterly ignored Him and given YOUR life to the WTS...an organization that was founded by a spiritist who now lies dead under a masonic pyramid just down the road from a masonc lodge.

Ironic eh?
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I don't think so, here's what he is currently doing;
"“When the Son of man arrives in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit down on his glorious throne. 32 And all the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate people one from another, just as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 And he will put the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left.

"Then the king will say to those on his right, ‘Come, YOU who have been blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for YOU from the founding of the world...

 “Then he will say, in turn, to those on his left, ‘Be on YOUR way from me, YOU who have been cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the Devil and his angels. ..... And these will depart into everlasting cutting-off, but the righteous ones into everlasting life.” Mt25:34
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"Of what benefit is it, my brothers, if a certain one says he has faith but he does not have works? That faith cannot save him, can it? 15 If a brother or a sister is in a naked state and lacking the food sufficient for the day, 16 yet a certain one of YOU says to them: “Go in peace, keep warm and well fed,” but YOU do not give them the necessities for [their] body, of what benefit is it? 17 Thus, too, faith, if it does not have works, is dead in itself.
18 Nevertheless, a certain one will say: “You have faith, and I have works. Show me your faith apart from the works, and I shall show you my faith by my works.” 19 You believe there is one God, do you? You are doing quite well. And yet the demons believe and shudder. 20 But do you care to know, O empty man, that faith apart from works is inactive? 21 Was not Abraham our father declared righteous by works after he had offered up Isaac his son upon the altar? 22 You behold that [his] faith worked along with his works and by [his] works [his] faith was perfected, 23 and the scripture was fulfilled which says: “Abraham put faith in Jehovah, and it was counted to him as righteousness,” and he came to be called “Jehovah’s friend.”
24 YOU see that a man is to be declared righteous by works, and not by faith alone.' Ja2:14
 Quoting: DGN


Hypocrite.

Yu rave at others about NOT giving their lives to Jesus totally..and yet YOU have utterly ignored Him and given YOUR life to the WTS...an organization that was founded by a spiritist who now lies dead under a masonic pyramid just down the road from a masonc lodge.

Ironic eh?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18239908


I don't think so, here's what he is currently doing;
"“When the Son of man arrives in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit down on his glorious throne. 32 And all the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate people one from another, just as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 And he will put the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left.

"Then the king will say to those on his right, ‘Come, YOU who have been blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for YOU from the founding of the world...

 “Then he will say, in turn, to those on his left, ‘Be on YOUR way from me, YOU who have been cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the Devil and his angels. ..... And these will depart into everlasting cutting-off, but the righteous ones into everlasting life.” Mt25:34
 Quoting: DGN


Russel was a MASON you dweeb.

Yet you follow him and his twisted occultic pseudo "Christian" garbage..occultism mixed with christianity...all about WORKS and FEAR and DEATH..go door to door..give your ALL to the WTS..or DIE at armageddon.

They told us that in 1974..because armageddon was coming in 75..well..it never came..ALL LIES..every word from the governing body is OCCULTIC BULLSHIT.

yet you LAP IT UP.

Brainwashed much?
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Will someone please ban D&C?
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"Of what benefit is it, my brothers, if a certain one says he has faith but he does not have works? That faith cannot save him, can it? 15 If a brother or a sister is in a naked state and lacking the food sufficient for the day, 16 yet a certain one of YOU says to them: “Go in peace, keep warm and well fed,” but YOU do not give them the necessities for [their] body, of what benefit is it? 17 Thus, too, faith, if it does not have works, is dead in itself.
18 Nevertheless, a certain one will say: “You have faith, and I have works. Show me your faith apart from the works, and I shall show you my faith by my works.” 19 You believe there is one God, do you? You are doing quite well. And yet the demons believe and shudder. 20 But do you care to know, O empty man, that faith apart from works is inactive? 21 Was not Abraham our father declared righteous by works after he had offered up Isaac his son upon the altar? 22 You behold that [his] faith worked along with his works and by [his] works [his] faith was perfected, 23 and the scripture was fulfilled which says: “Abraham put faith in Jehovah, and it was counted to him as righteousness,” and he came to be called “Jehovah’s friend.”
24 YOU see that a man is to be declared righteous by works, and not by faith alone.' Ja2:14
 Quoting: DGN


Hypocrite.

Yu rave at others about NOT giving their lives to Jesus totally..and yet YOU have utterly ignored Him and given YOUR life to the WTS...an organization that was founded by a spiritist who now lies dead under a masonic pyramid just down the road from a masonc lodge.

Ironic eh?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18239908


I don't think so, here's what he is currently doing;
"“When the Son of man arrives in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit down on his glorious throne. 32 And all the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate people one from another, just as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 And he will put the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left.

"Then the king will say to those on his right, ‘Come, YOU who have been blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for YOU from the founding of the world...

 “Then he will say, in turn, to those on his left, ‘Be on YOUR way from me, YOU who have been cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the Devil and his angels. ..... And these will depart into everlasting cutting-off, but the righteous ones into everlasting life.” Mt25:34
 Quoting: DGN


Russel was a MASON you dweeb.

Yet you follow him and his twisted occultic pseudo "Christian" garbage..occultism mixed with christianity...all about WORKS and FEAR and DEATH..go door to door..give your ALL to the WTS..or DIE at armageddon.

They told us that in 1974..because armageddon was coming in 75..well..it never came..ALL LIES..every word from the governing body is OCCULTIC BULLSHIT.

yet you LAP IT UP.

Brainwashed much?
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Jesus was not a stone mason he was a carpenter;

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Hypocrite.

Yu rave at others about NOT giving their lives to Jesus totally..and yet YOU have utterly ignored Him and given YOUR life to the WTS...an organization that was founded by a spiritist who now lies dead under a masonic pyramid just down the road from a masonc lodge.

Ironic eh?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18239908


I don't think so, here's what he is currently doing;
"“When the Son of man arrives in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit down on his glorious throne. 32 And all the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate people one from another, just as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 And he will put the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left.

"Then the king will say to those on his right, ‘Come, YOU who have been blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for YOU from the founding of the world...

 “Then he will say, in turn, to those on his left, ‘Be on YOUR way from me, YOU who have been cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the Devil and his angels. ..... And these will depart into everlasting cutting-off, but the righteous ones into everlasting life.” Mt25:34
 Quoting: DGN


Russel was a MASON you dweeb.

Yet you follow him and his twisted occultic pseudo "Christian" garbage..occultism mixed with christianity...all about WORKS and FEAR and DEATH..go door to door..give your ALL to the WTS..or DIE at armageddon.

They told us that in 1974..because armageddon was coming in 75..well..it never came..ALL LIES..every word from the governing body is OCCULTIC BULLSHIT.

yet you LAP IT UP.

Brainwashed much?
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Jesus was not a stone mason he was a carpenter;

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I said RUSSEL..the OCCULTIST who FOUNDED the JW's was a MASON..NOT Jesus ya donk head.

That brainwashing has REALLY screwed up your reading and comprehension abilitlies.
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I don't think so, here's what he is currently doing;
"“When the Son of man arrives in his glory, and all the angels with him, then he will sit down on his glorious throne. 32 And all the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate people one from another, just as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33 And he will put the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on his left.

"Then the king will say to those on his right, ‘Come, YOU who have been blessed by my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for YOU from the founding of the world...

 “Then he will say, in turn, to those on his left, ‘Be on YOUR way from me, YOU who have been cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the Devil and his angels. ..... And these will depart into everlasting cutting-off, but the righteous ones into everlasting life.” Mt25:34
 Quoting: DGN


Russel was a MASON you dweeb.

Yet you follow him and his twisted occultic pseudo "Christian" garbage..occultism mixed with christianity...all about WORKS and FEAR and DEATH..go door to door..give your ALL to the WTS..or DIE at armageddon.

They told us that in 1974..because armageddon was coming in 75..well..it never came..ALL LIES..every word from the governing body is OCCULTIC BULLSHIT.

yet you LAP IT UP.

Brainwashed much?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18239908


Jesus was not a stone mason he was a carpenter;

 Quoting: DGN


I said RUSSEL..the OCCULTIST who FOUNDED the JW's was a MASON..NOT Jesus ya donk head.

That brainwashing has REALLY screwed up your reading and comprehension abilitlies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18239908


"“Rulers of the people and older men, 9 if we are this day being examined, on the basis of a good deed to an ailing man, as to by whom this man has been made well, 10 let it be known to all of YOU and to all the people of Israel, that in the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene, whom YOU impaled but whom God raised up from the dead, by this one does this man stand here sound in front of YOU. 11 This is ‘the stone that was treated by YOU builders as of no account that has become the head of the corner.’ 12 Furthermore, there is no salvation in anyone else, for there is not another name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved.” Ac4:8

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I agree. But by your own post you should be seventh day adventist, or at least keep the correct 7th-day Sabbath.
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Russel was a MASON you dweeb.

Yet you follow him and his twisted occultic pseudo "Christian" garbage..occultism mixed with christianity...all about WORKS and FEAR and DEATH..go door to door..give your ALL to the WTS..or DIE at armageddon.

They told us that in 1974..because armageddon was coming in 75..well..it never came..ALL LIES..every word from the governing body is OCCULTIC BULLSHIT.

yet you LAP IT UP.

Brainwashed much?
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Jesus was not a stone mason he was a carpenter;

 Quoting: DGN


I said RUSSEL..the OCCULTIST who FOUNDED the JW's was a MASON..NOT Jesus ya donk head.

That brainwashing has REALLY screwed up your reading and comprehension abilitlies.
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"“Rulers of the people and older men, 9 if we are this day being examined, on the basis of a good deed to an ailing man, as to by whom this man has been made well, 10 let it be known to all of YOU and to all the people of Israel, that in the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene, whom YOU impaled but whom God raised up from the dead, by this one does this man stand here sound in front of YOU. 11 This is ‘the stone that was treated by YOU builders as of no account that has become the head of the corner.’ 12 Furthermore, there is no salvation in anyone else, for there is not another name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved.” Ac4:8
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Avoiding the issue eh?

CANT accept that the bloke who founded the JW's was an occultic MASON and spiritist.

If I could post images id even put a pic of his toomstone..a big fat pyramid covered in MASONIC OCCULT SYMBOLS>.and a google earth shot of the LODGE..JUST up the road from it.

BRAINWASHED MUCH?
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Jesus was not a stone mason he was a carpenter;

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I said RUSSEL..the OCCULTIST who FOUNDED the JW's was a MASON..NOT Jesus ya donk head.

That brainwashing has REALLY screwed up your reading and comprehension abilitlies.
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"“Rulers of the people and older men, 9 if we are this day being examined, on the basis of a good deed to an ailing man, as to by whom this man has been made well, 10 let it be known to all of YOU and to all the people of Israel, that in the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene, whom YOU impaled but whom God raised up from the dead, by this one does this man stand here sound in front of YOU. 11 This is ‘the stone that was treated by YOU builders as of no account that has become the head of the corner.’ 12 Furthermore, there is no salvation in anyone else, for there is not another name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved.” Ac4:8
 Quoting: DGN


Avoiding the issue eh?

CANT accept that the bloke who founded the JW's was an occultic MASON and spiritist.

If I could post images id even put a pic of his toomstone..a big fat pyramid covered in MASONIC OCCULT SYMBOLS>.and a google earth shot of the LODGE..JUST up the road from it.

BRAINWASHED MUCH?
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Who has Jehovah divinely appointed to be savior and head of his international spiritual nation? HINT;
"He delivered us from the authority of the darkness and transferred us into the kingdom of the Son of his love, 14 by means of whom we have our release by ransom, the forgiveness of our sins. 15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; 16 because by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All [other] things have been created through him and for him. 17 Also, he is before all [other] things and by means of him all [other] things were made to exist, 18 and he is the head of the body, the congregation. He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that he might become the one who is first in all things; 19 because [God] saw good for all fullness to dwell in him, 20 and through him to reconcile again to himself all [other] things by making peace through the blood [he shed] on the torture stake, no matter whether they are the things upon the earth or the things in the heavens." Col1:13
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How nice it would be if this would would supply Jehovah's international spiritual nation with free supplies to print and distribute billions of bible study aids around the world. However it is Jehovah's Witnesses themselves that finance this world wide invitation out of their own wages;
See the third link below.

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I agree. But by your own post you should be seventh day adventist, or at least keep the correct 7th-day Sabbath.
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The old law covenant, tithing, sabbath, sacrifices for sin were abolished with Jesus ransom sacrifice.
"Brothers, the goodwill of my heart and my supplication to God for them are, indeed, for their salvation. 2 For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God; but not according to accurate knowledge; 3 for, because of not knowing the righteousness of God but seeking to establish their own, they did not subject themselves to the righteousness of God. 4 For Christ is the end of the Law, so that everyone exercising faith may have righteousness.
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How nice it would be if this would would supply Jehovah's international spiritual nation with free supplies to print and distribute billions of bible study aids around the world. However it is Jehovah's Witnesses themselves that finance this world wide invitation out of their own wages;
See the third link below.
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All Watchtower printery labor is voluntary but machines and materials must be bought.

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