FACT CHECK: Jesse Ventura's "Conspiracy Theory" episode "Ozarks" is highly misleading. | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 15044657 12/07/2012 08:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesse Ventura is an propagandist, illuminati shill. To "review" or "fact check" the show just proves you were ignorant enough to tune in. It's called THE BIG LIE. There's no wading through the stream of shit and deliberate disinformation. It's all basically untrue. To be like "Well, there's some of it..." No. If you're hearing it from them, it's a lie. And a "lie" doesn't mean the truth is the opposite of the lie. The propaganda formula is as such: To present you with information that is so enticing to your conspiring mind that you will believe it... OR... You will think they are telling you the OPPOSITE of the truth and not believe what they are saying but the polar opposite of it. The truth lies in a region located OUTSIDE of that frame of reference all together. They know all you doomtards are bored and looking for juice. Does anybody seriously think ANY network is broadcasting anything that is not part of their agenda? Get real and then, smash your TV. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 18713240 12/07/2012 08:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Season 3 has been really lame. First when he baited David dIcke, that whole episode was a hit on him. Terrible season so far. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24473407 That's when I knew has a disinfo shill. His "interview" was exactly what the MSM does to so-called "conspiracy theorists" - lost any respect I ever had for Jesse - exposed himself for the shill he is. Probably works for the same handlers as the Texas bullhorn guy Alex is a lot of things but disinfo agent ain't one of them. He has no handlers idiot! You're the idiot. You obviously don't know much. You will learn like so many eventually do - just a matter of time |
| theseven333 User ID: 6836720 12/07/2012 09:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't get people like you. Quoting: hatch battener 29260731 Back in the 70's, when Leonard Nimoy was doing 'In Search Of', it was cornball and the topics were far more tame then what Jesse Ventura is covering. But conspiracy folks considered him a hero for bringing these issues into the mainstream media. Now, 40 years later, when Jesse Ventura comes along with a similarly rare show in the mainstream media, certain internet warriors take pride in knocking Ventura, that he doesn't go far enough, and every which way. Well, I got news for ya SuperBowlDave, after Ventura's show is cancelled, 40 years from now, in 2050, I'm sure you will take great delight in criticizing the next time the mainstream media presents such a show. And you know what, you'll be a moran then, just like you are now. Exactly, everyone is always bitching about something, where is the op's research on the ozarks? The op is another moron that always has something to bitch about even when Jesse Ventura is risking his life to show the truth to people who want to know the truth and maybe a possible cover up. It's always something not good enough for morons like the op. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29238855 12/07/2012 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Season 3 has been really lame. First when he baited David dIcke, that whole episode was a hit on him. Terrible season so far. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24473407 That's when I knew has a disinfo shill. His "interview" was exactly what the MSM does to so-called "conspiracy theorists" - lost any respect I ever had for Jesse - exposed himself for the shill he is. Probably works for the same handlers as the Texas bullhorn guy Alex is a lot of things but disinfo agent ain't one of them. He has no handlers idiot! You're the idiot. You obviously don't know much. You will learn like so many eventually do - just a matter of time Show the proof you fucking mindless zombie. Fuck off! |
| theseven333 User ID: 6836720 12/07/2012 09:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesse Ventura is an propagandist, illuminati shill. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15044657 To "review" or "fact check" the show just proves you were ignorant enough to tune in. It's called THE BIG LIE. There's no wading through the stream of shit and deliberate disinformation. It's all basically untrue. To be like "Well, there's some of it..." No. If you're hearing it from them, it's a lie. And a "lie" doesn't mean the truth is the opposite of the lie. The propaganda formula is as such: To present you with information that is so enticing to your conspiring mind that you will believe it... OR... You will think they are telling you the OPPOSITE of the truth and not believe what they are saying but the polar opposite of it. The truth lies in a region located OUTSIDE of that frame of reference all together. They know all you doomtards are bored and looking for juice. Does anybody seriously think ANY network is broadcasting anything that is not part of their agenda? Get real and then, smash your TV. Your right it is part of their agenda but they also don't care anymore because they could broadcast the absolute truth on the tv to every sheep on the planet and no one would believe it because the truh is too far from the reality the sheep live in. So no Jesse Ventura is not an illuminati shill but he is just another pawn who wants to get the truth out but is limited on what he can say |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14620252 12/07/2012 09:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Show got dumb as shit by season two. Sean stone is an idiot who sounds like a rich drug addict. If anything the illuminati or whatever they want you to think they're called put these guys on TV for a reason. To discredit real conspiracies. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 17865681 12/07/2012 09:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Of course he is a shill and a puppet. Do you really think he can do whatever he wants in the way he makes it look? Pfff.. They make this cheap show to drain some more energy out of you, he is fulfilling the master plan. As long as you are feeling atached to this info you will be their cow that they milk. Television is Evil. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29163876 12/07/2012 09:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Spingfield, MO has a HUGE underground storage facility, OP! Nice deflection.... [link to www.springfieldunderground.com] Wonder what YOUR motivation is? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24408129 12/07/2012 09:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The shills are sure trying hard to discredit all of the great info Jesse has uncovered in the past...FEMA camps, BP oil spill, Mayan calendar, etc. The guy was a navy seal, which is more than most all of the people on this site combined have achieved, and his info is solid. Shame on you stupid bowl Dave |
| theseven333 User ID: 6836720 12/07/2012 09:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The shills are sure trying hard to discredit all of the great info Jesse Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24408129 has uncovered in the past...FEMA camps, BP oil spill, Mayan calendar, etc. The guy was a navy seal, which is more than most all of the people on this site combined have achieved, and his info is solid. Shame on you stupid bowl Dave ![]() Op is Just another troll |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9258462 12/07/2012 09:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just so u know, Jesse HAS to make stupid goofy episodes on purpose. Its In His contract. He also didn't wanna do the reptilian one either.He admitted all this in an interview. He's still awesome!! Quoting: TheTruthNeverLies Exactly... It's purpose to make show a bit dramatic. Sounds, camera pans, flashing, that's normal guys, nothing about mind programming shit. Show has to be dramatic so lower IQ consumers could better digest it. It's more entertaining to them that way. He is opening eyes to masses. I would say good job, even if it doesn't look that way. So what did lower IQ people ever do before MTV's production style finally allowed them to understand the world? I'm so sick of the extraneous nonsense that interferes with critical thinking. Basically strobes are the new facts. Because low IQ people are like infants and flashes are like language? It's all just very weird. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29268165 12/07/2012 09:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't get people like you. Quoting: hatch battener 29260731 Back in the 70's, when Leonard Nimoy was doing 'In Search Of', it was cornball and the topics were far more tame then what Jesse Ventura is covering. But conspiracy folks considered him a hero for bringing these issues into the mainstream media. Now, 40 years later, when Jesse Ventura comes along with a similarly rare show in the mainstream media, certain internet warriors take pride in knocking Ventura, that he doesn't go far enough, and every which way. Well, I got news for ya SuperBowlDave, after Ventura's show is cancelled, 40 years from now, in 2050, I'm sure you will take great delight in criticizing the next time the mainstream media presents such a show. And you know what, you'll be a moran then, just like you are now. Really... I mean, really? This guy is presenting information that is false, making false claims, nothing short of outright lies. You're suggesting a sort of mindless allegiance and adherence to those in the conspiracy field, no matter their credibility. If a turd is wrapped in conspiracy theory, it's still a turd. But I'm supposed to support it anyway? While I think Jesse's contributed a great deal of excellent information in prior episodes, something is seriously wrong with this new season. Yeah, it's like they told him, "we'll only renew you for a third season if you go off the reservation and make a fool of yourself." His episodes on 9/11, JFK and the Denver Airport were all great and informative, but even I knew the silliness of this Ozarks episode. And as to the proliferation of banks in Mountain View, AR, that's been an epidemic throughout Arkansas. In my hometown, we've seen a multiplication of new banks coming in. Also, what they don't tell you about the population to bank ratio there is, that while the city limits have a population of less than 3,000, the town serves an outlying rural area of maybe 15 to 20 thousand people. Comparing to NYC and LA is ridiculous because those people are all crammed into the city, while in Arkansas, in most places people don't live in the city limits, people are spread out and live in unincorporated areas, etc, but when they do their business they "go into town." Mountain View is "town" to many folks living out in the country. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12655659 12/07/2012 09:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I thought the episode was bullshit as well. Ok so there is this secret underground city being built yet he is able to drive right into , drive around in it for a while, and come out and drive away/escape without ever being stopped? Yea I knew that episode was crap after that. I knew that whatever that underground city footage was, it was a hoax; to me it was obvious. Maybe Jesse is being forced by TPTB to sabotage his show? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23382441 I was also thinking that, only because the first seasons were so much better and these are like almost comical, when stone came running out with the OZ ARC thing I thought that was a cool little discovery but the way they went about it, I thought we were about to hear corny sound effects in the back ground lol. I also thought it was incredibly cheesy the shots of stone riding his motorcycle around like hes friggin super cool man. not a bad looking guy I must add lol but they could leave out the corny stuff lol. Judging the way Jesse was in the first seasons and they way he is now and the way the show is edited I truly believe this season is strictly to discredit the entire show and make it schticky. also OP I was thinking the same thing when they were showing the clips of the guy making the home, if it's so secret how did they get those clips!! lol |
| theseven333 User ID: 6836720 12/07/2012 09:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I thought the episode was bullshit as well. Ok so there is this secret underground city being built yet he is able to drive right into , drive around in it for a while, and come out and drive away/escape without ever being stopped? Yea I knew that episode was crap after that. I knew that whatever that underground city footage was, it was a hoax; to me it was obvious. Maybe Jesse is being forced by TPTB to sabotage his show? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23382441 I was also thinking that, only because the first seasons were so much better and these are like almost comical, when stone came running out with the OZ ARC thing I thought that was a cool little discovery but the way they went about it, I thought we were about to hear corny sound effects in the back ground lol. I also thought it was incredibly cheesy the shots of stone riding his motorcycle around like hes friggin super cool man. not a bad looking guy I must add lol but they could leave out the corny stuff lol. Judging the way Jesse was in the first seasons and they way he is now and the way the show is edited I truly believe this season is strictly to discredit the entire show and make it schticky. also OP I was thinking the same thing when they were showing the clips of the guy making the home, if it's so secret how did they get those clips!! lol Yes time Warner's got ahold of thee show and they showed Jesse the show he did and then time Warner edited it after they showed him and then put it on tv, time Warner is purposely making the show look like Jesse Ventura is a nut |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 5262615 12/07/2012 09:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For me the FX and dramatic music theme's make this "program" impossible to watch. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29056397 Im done with this whole "show". I kinda liked in the first few episodes... Ventura is not creative and is not a "feeler" or emotional guy. He is a leftbrainer with no imagination staring blind at facts . Jess is a sweet flunky, as in: wonderful guard dog that will protect his owners to the death. On his sleeve he wears his over-sized, big mushy-loven heart of compassion, to compensate for the punch-drunk brain of scar-tissue. His epitaph will read: “Fools rush in where angels fear to tread”, just like this guy: [link to www.youtube.com] Jesse’s Swan Song?: [link to www.youtube.com] NO WAY ! ! ! This is tender Jesse’s song: [link to www.youtube.com] |
| Mr. Predictor Mod Emeritus User ID: 1032780 12/07/2012 09:42 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm positive that show is run by TPTB. Most of the info on that program has been out in the public for 10- 15 years. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25915094 The only thing they do is obfuscate the real info with their own disinfo and tactical bullshit. When you watch that show, pay attention to the scene flash rate, rapid camera pans, unfocused quick zooms, wiggly camera angles, and abnormal repetitious over embellishment of the subjects discussed. Their violins and bongo drums combined with Jesses wrestling voice come off like shit. They do that shit on purpose to make real research into the subjects come off like fanatical delusions. ^^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^^ ![]() In 2012 the Fandango Rangers prevented 23,653 attacks on the American people. 10% Internal Threats 20% International Terrorists 15% Obama zombies 30% Extraterrestrial 15% Extradimensional |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29163876 12/07/2012 09:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't get people like you. Quoting: hatch battener 29260731 Back in the 70's, when Leonard Nimoy was doing 'In Search Of', it was cornball and the topics were far more tame then what Jesse Ventura is covering. But conspiracy folks considered him a hero for bringing these issues into the mainstream media. Now, 40 years later, when Jesse Ventura comes along with a similarly rare show in the mainstream media, certain internet warriors take pride in knocking Ventura, that he doesn't go far enough, and every which way. Well, I got news for ya SuperBowlDave, after Ventura's show is cancelled, 40 years from now, in 2050, I'm sure you will take great delight in criticizing the next time the mainstream media presents such a show. And you know what, you'll be a moran then, just like you are now. Really... I mean, really? This guy is presenting information that is false, making false claims, nothing short of outright lies. You're suggesting a sort of mindless allegiance and adherence to those in the conspiracy field, no matter their credibility. If a turd is wrapped in conspiracy theory, it's still a turd. But I'm supposed to support it anyway? While I think Jesse's contributed a great deal of excellent information in prior episodes, something is seriously wrong with this new season. Yeah, it's like they told him, "we'll only renew you for a third season if you go off the reservation and make a fool of yourself." His episodes on 9/11, JFK and the Denver Airport were all great and informative, but even I knew the silliness of this Ozarks episode. And as to the proliferation of banks in Mountain View, AR, that's been an epidemic throughout Arkansas. In my hometown, we've seen a multiplication of new banks coming in. Also, what they don't tell you about the population to bank ratio there is, that while the city limits have a population of less than 3,000, the town serves an outlying rural area of maybe 15 to 20 thousand people. Comparing to NYC and LA is ridiculous because those people are all crammed into the city, while in Arkansas, in most places people don't live in the city limits, people are spread out and live in unincorporated areas, etc, but when they do their business they "go into town." Mountain View is "town" to many folks living out in the country. FAIL....again! Baxter County Arkansas...Population 41,536 Number of banks...63 ONE BANK FOR EVERY 650 PEOPLE! [link to www.yellowpages.com] |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29269141 12/07/2012 09:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You expected better from Ventura? My take on Ventura is he's making $ any which way he can. He's hustling. Former governors generally make $ by sitting on corporation and other institutional boards, giving speeches before professional organizations and what-not. Ventura is so essentially ignorant and poorly educated that he doesn't have these options, so he hustles any way he can. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7422178 12/07/2012 09:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You expected better from Ventura? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29269141 My take on Ventura is he's making $ any which way he can. He's hustling. Former governors generally make $ by sitting on corporation and other institutional boards, giving speeches before professional organizations and what-not. Ventura is so essentially ignorant and poorly educated that he doesn't have these options, so he hustles any way he can. no, he wants to get the truth out, but he seems to be easily led onto false truths aka. fear propaganda.. lol i think he's a good guy, just needs to work on his intuition. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7422178 12/07/2012 09:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesse Ventura is an propagandist, illuminati shill. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15044657 To "review" or "fact check" the show just proves you were ignorant enough to tune in. It's called THE BIG LIE. There's no wading through the stream of shit and deliberate disinformation. It's all basically untrue. To be like "Well, there's some of it..." No. If you're hearing it from them, it's a lie. And a "lie" doesn't mean the truth is the opposite of the lie. The propaganda formula is as such: To present you with information that is so enticing to your conspiring mind that you will believe it... OR... You will think they are telling you the OPPOSITE of the truth and not believe what they are saying but the polar opposite of it. The truth lies in a region located OUTSIDE of that frame of reference all together. They know all you doomtards are bored and looking for juice. Does anybody seriously think ANY network is broadcasting anything that is not part of their agenda? Get real and then, smash your TV. well said, thank you:) |
| SomaComatose Subtlety not used here. Mostly. User ID: 29269723 12/07/2012 09:56 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | True, but it's entertaining watching grown people act like 4 year olds. Same thing with Zak Bagans and crew. Never laughed so hard in my life... Everytime something happens (allegedly) you get a great sound effect and Nick's eyes bug out of his head. Worth every penny. ![]() "I hear what you are saying, but I'm not really listening to you." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7422178 12/07/2012 09:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | True, but it's entertaining watching grown people act like 4 year olds. Same thing with Zak Bagans and crew. Never laughed so hard in my life... Everytime something happens (allegedly) you get a great sound effect and Nick's eyes bug out of his head. Worth every penny. :JimHorse91: LOL yeah gotta use your intuition/discernment skills with these shows, but i still think worth having them around to get some peeps thinking for a change.. as long as the show is not fear based. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 22478672 12/07/2012 10:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't get people like you. Quoting: hatch battener 29260731 Back in the 70's, when Leonard Nimoy was doing 'In Search Of', it was cornball and the topics were far more tame then what Jesse Ventura is covering. But conspiracy folks considered him a hero for bringing these issues into the mainstream media. Now, 40 years later, when Jesse Ventura comes along with a similarly rare show in the mainstream media, certain internet warriors take pride in knocking Ventura, that he doesn't go far enough, and every which way. Well, I got news for ya SuperBowlDave, after Ventura's show is cancelled, 40 years from now, in 2050, I'm sure you will take great delight in criticizing the next time the mainstream media presents such a show. And you know what, you'll be a moran then, just like you are now. Why is the OP a moron? He pointed out the true facts of the story and how the show mislead people trying to fit thier own agenda. I think the real morons are the people who know the truth but choose to ignore it becuase it doesn't fit with thier agenda. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28658457 12/07/2012 10:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What Jesse didn't tell you is that this facility is located SIX HOURS AWAY from Ozark, Missouri -- in Kansas City! Wrong. Idiot. I live in St. Louis MO. I know where Christian County, the Ozarks, and Kansas City are. You.Don't.Know.What.You.Are.Talking.About. Every informational site will tell you that Pensmore is located in Christian County, MO. Here is Forbes reporting on it: Here’s another huge home to put on your real estate radar: Pensmore. Pensmore, the Ozark Mountains estate being erected in rural Christian County, Missouri, [link to www.forbes.com] And here is Christian County, right in the Ozarks [link to en.wikipedia.org] The following Wiki state map will show where Kansas City is: [link to en.wikipedia.org] Plug Pensmore and Kansas City, MO into google maps and you'll see they are 195 miles apart. Moron. Why is this flagged? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 22478672 12/07/2012 10:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't get people like you. Quoting: hatch battener 29260731 Back in the 70's, when Leonard Nimoy was doing 'In Search Of', it was cornball and the topics were far more tame then what Jesse Ventura is covering. But conspiracy folks considered him a hero for bringing these issues into the mainstream media. Now, 40 years later, when Jesse Ventura comes along with a similarly rare show in the mainstream media, certain internet warriors take pride in knocking Ventura, that he doesn't go far enough, and every which way. Well, I got news for ya SuperBowlDave, after Ventura's show is cancelled, 40 years from now, in 2050, I'm sure you will take great delight in criticizing the next time the mainstream media presents such a show. And you know what, you'll be a moran then, just like you are now. Exactly, everyone is always bitching about something, where is the op's research on the ozarks? The op is another moron that always has something to bitch about even when Jesse Ventura is risking his life to show the truth to people who want to know the truth and maybe a possible cover up. It's always something not good enough for morons like the op. Google brings up tons of info about it. What is SubTropolis? SubTropolis was created through the mining of a 270-million-year-old limestone deposit. (Geological Cross-Section of SubTropolis) In the mining process, limestone is removed by the room and pillar method, leaving 25-foot square pillars that are on 65-foot centers and 40 feet apart. The pillars’ even spacing, concrete flooring and 16-foot high, smooth ceilings make build-to-suit facilities time and cost efficient for tenants. A tenant requiring 10,000 to one million square feet can be in their space within 150 days. SubTropolis is completely dry, brightly lit, with miles of wide, paved streets accessed at street level. Hunt Midwest SubTropolis sets the standard for subsurface business real estate developments. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28689320 12/07/2012 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it's a "show" with actors working for a paycheck by providing entertainment. All TV us entertainment. The marketing team in entertainment has discovered that sites like this attract a lot of people and it is therefore a viable demographic to be marketed too. The show is meant to suck you in "for entertainment" purposes so they can plug you with sponsor ads to try to sell you crap. That is all TV show have ever been and will ever be. Once the demographic was discovered thanks to the internet - the actors had to establish themselves credible to lure the consumers. So we have Jesse Ventura - Glen Beck - The other guy this site wonk't allows name to be posted - ever notice how they are join forces to establish credit so they can become the spokesman - that is to lure you to the shows so they can market you useless crap. It has nothing to do with you - it has to do with a demographic that you fit into because of your interests. Sell Sell Sell - It's all for entertainment purposes. It's all actors getting paid to provide a show. zero reality on TV |