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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2836766 12/07/2012 11:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Umm...yea you forgot to mention the 350,000 that left the job rolls......so yey again it's a net NEGATIVE jobs number...and we all know it's WAY worse than the gubmint admits. Quoting: Boypony Even more important is WHERE were the gain (i.e. in which age cohort)? "the biggest gainer continued to be America geriatric work force" [link to www.zerohedge.com] anyone for swift's modest proposal in reverse (not "eat your children" Ireland, but "kill your parents" America?) |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 11803834 12/07/2012 11:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seasonal jobs. Some will become permanent but not most. When I worked retail when I was younger, I worked at Costco, Target, and yes Wal-Mart for a time. The typical routine is that you hire someone and bring them on for 89 days, then get rid of them before they qualify for any kind of benefit or real employment. The ones you plan on keeping you lay off because January-March are the worst months of retail. Then you call some of them back based on corporate projections from HQ. I believe that the main problem you are going to see is the shift to part time employment as employers don't want to insure you. That why we can all pat each other on the back as unemployment goes down, but no one will actually have any improved standard of living. I see this happening with some people I know now. They can only find part time work. Because it pays less than their former jobs they are simultaneously drawing unemployment as supplemental pay. They are fucked when it runs out. |
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| smokahontas User ID: 23237790 12/07/2012 02:26 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Those numbers are rigged just like everything else. They release those numbers to keep the stupid sheep calm and the markets in the green. Anyone who buys this bullshit is a MORON. Look up shadow stats "I may not agree with what you say, but I would defend to the death your right to say it." Voltaire "Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored." Aldous Huxley |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 24545480 12/07/2012 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Those numbers are rigged just like everything else. They release those numbers to keep the stupid sheep calm and the markets in the green. Anyone who buys this bullshit is a MORON. Look up shadow stats Quoting: smokahontas Sounds like you need to get a job. Get up and go do it. Just like Nike: Just Do It. |
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| smokahontas User ID: 23237790 12/07/2012 02:35 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Those numbers are rigged just like everything else. They release those numbers to keep the stupid sheep calm and the markets in the green. Anyone who buys this bullshit is a MORON. Look up shadow stats Quoting: smokahontas Sounds like you need to get a job. Get up and go do it. Just like Nike: Just Do It. I have a job asshole. 86 million unemployed, smallest labor force since 1980, would have to add 180,000 jobs a month to keep up with population. Last Edited by smokahontas on 12/07/2012 02:35 PM "I may not agree with what you say, but I would defend to the death your right to say it." Voltaire "Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored." Aldous Huxley |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 24545480 12/07/2012 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have a lovely bridge for sale! Quoting: Mickeyblue 9806228 Go to shadow stats and see real employment/unemployment. Within the jobs that were created, by the way, 73.3% are government jobs, did you know that?????????????? Total Fail. I will let you in on a little secret. Anyone can start a blog or post a video. That does not make the information real. Get a clue. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 24545480 12/07/2012 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Those numbers are rigged just like everything else. They release those numbers to keep the stupid sheep calm and the markets in the green. Anyone who buys this bullshit is a MORON. Look up shadow stats Quoting: smokahontas Sounds like you need to get a job. Get up and go do it. Just like Nike: Just Do It. I have a job asshole. 86 million unemployed, smallest labor force since 1980, would have to add 180,000 jobs a month to keep up with population. Sure you have a job. I believe that just like I believe in the tooth fairy. Start being more productive. Contribute to society. |
| robroy User ID: 1685967 12/07/2012 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Actually it was 540,000 that came off the rolls thats why it went down not because of 145000 jobs. Also that will be revised down just like sept and oct were revised down 50000 today also. Wake up he is killing this country........ ![]() |
Lady Jane Smith![]() Forum Moderator User ID: 1829477 12/07/2012 02:38 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Umm...yea you forgot to mention the 350,000 that left the job rolls......so yey again it's a net NEGATIVE jobs number...and we all know it's WAY worse than the gubmint admits. Quoting: Boypony ^^^that^^^^ Life is karma and karma always reflects both past and present circumstance. Our time here is short, so choose carefully and behave well, for all of your tomorrows are presently being decided. "Don't die on a small cross..." Saddletramp's Mom "A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool." -- William Shakespeare, born April 23, 1564. |
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Lady Jane Smith![]() Forum Moderator User ID: 1829477 12/07/2012 02:40 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The future is bright. Everyone I know that wants to work is now working. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24545480 Well, that explains it. How many of you liberal pals actually want to work. Very few I would suspect. Too easy to live off mommy & daddy or the taxpayers. Enjoy your free ride, it is about to smack a brick wall. Life is karma and karma always reflects both past and present circumstance. Our time here is short, so choose carefully and behave well, for all of your tomorrows are presently being decided. "Don't die on a small cross..." Saddletramp's Mom "A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool." -- William Shakespeare, born April 23, 1564. |
| smokahontas User ID: 23237790 12/07/2012 02:41 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Those numbers are rigged just like everything else. They release those numbers to keep the stupid sheep calm and the markets in the green. Anyone who buys this bullshit is a MORON. Look up shadow stats Quoting: smokahontas Sounds like you need to get a job. Get up and go do it. Just like Nike: Just Do It. I have a job asshole. 86 million unemployed, smallest labor force since 1980, would have to add 180,000 jobs a month to keep up with population. Sure you have a job. I believe that just like I believe in the tooth fairy. Start being more productive. Contribute to society. Ok then, your a fucking idiot and since you do not want to discuss the topic of your thread and rather speak of my employment status, I will leave you to it. Good Day "I may not agree with what you say, but I would defend to the death your right to say it." Voltaire "Facts do not cease to exist just because they are ignored." Aldous Huxley |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 24545480 12/07/2012 02:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24545480 Sounds like you need to get a job. Get up and go do it. Just like Nike: Just Do It. I have a job asshole. 86 million unemployed, smallest labor force since 1980, would have to add 180,000 jobs a month to keep up with population. Sure you have a job. I believe that just like I believe in the tooth fairy. Start being more productive. Contribute to society. Ok then, your a fucking idiot and since you do not want to discuss the topic of your thread and rather speak of my employment status, I will leave you to it. Good Day Don't forget to get a job. No excuses this time. |
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| Future Viewer User ID: 1344660 12/07/2012 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | U.S. nonfarm payrolls increased by a seasonally adjusted 146,000 last month, the Labor Department said Friday. The unemployment rate, obtained by a separate survey of U.S. households, fell two-tenths of a percentage point to 7.7%, the lowest level since December 2008. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24545480 [link to online.wsj.com] More lies out of "Asso"CIA"ted News Press". The usual lies and suspects.. Just how gullible does Uncle Sam think Mr. and Mrs. Sheeple America are?? ![]() |
| No Dhimmi User ID: 256987 12/07/2012 02:51 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, one way to jigger the number up would be to reduce the number of total people "in the workforce". As we see in the data at the link below, 350-thousand people decided in November that they were no longer part of the workforce which, pardon me, has a male bovine excrement odor to it. WFT happened to 350-thousand workers? [link to www.bls.gov] What's more, when you drill down further into the data here, you see that the total number of people working in America actually DROPPED 122,000 workers. True, the number of workers receiving unemployment dropped by 229,000 but remember, just because they run out of benefits doesn't mean they left the workforce. To be sure, the CES Birth/Death Model which has been used to "estimate jobs into existence" showed a drop of 29-thousand for the month. [link to www.bls.gov] You drop 350,000 workers from the workforce number and blow off 229,000 from the unemployed roles for a total of 579,000 workers doing a vanishing act. But it's hard to gloss over the total number of workers going to jobs in the workplace was down the 122,000....and that's the real deal when it comes to future sales that corporations have to look at. Proud Infidel !!! The religion of submission cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its sexually perverted terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god. When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, Muslims will flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and rape. If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts. Bukhari:V4B52N268 "Allah's Apostle said, 'War is deceit.'" In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell "I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them." ~ Founding Father, George Mason, Co-author of the Second Amendment. [link to www.faithfreedom.org] [link to thereligionofpeace.com] [link to prophetofdoom.net] [link to www.bibleprobe.com] [link to www.fatherzakaria.net] Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 24545480 12/07/2012 02:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, one way to jigger the number up would be to reduce the number of total people "in the workforce". As we see in the data at the link below, 350-thousand people decided in November that they were no longer part of the workforce which, pardon me, has a male bovine excrement odor to it. WFT happened to 350-thousand workers? [link to www.bls.gov] What's more, when you drill down further into the data here, you see that the total number of people working in America actually DROPPED 122,000 workers. True, the number of workers receiving unemployment dropped by 229,000 but remember, just because they run out of benefits doesn't mean they left the workforce. To be sure, the CES Birth/Death Model which has been used to "estimate jobs into existence" showed a drop of 29-thousand for the month. [link to www.bls.gov] You drop 350,000 workers from the workforce number and blow off 229,000 from the unemployed roles for a total of 579,000 workers doing a vanishing act. But it's hard to gloss over the total number of workers going to jobs in the workplace was down the 122,000....and that's the real deal when it comes to future sales that corporations have to look at. [/quot Pure rubbish. |