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blackcat Paris: DEBKAfile Special Report December 7, 2012,

Joint British-French Albanian Lion ExerciseSources close to the French Defense Ministry reported Friday, Dec. 7, that a Western-Arab military intervention against the Assad regime is due to begin shortly with the participation of the US, France, Britain, Turkey, Jordan and other anti-Assad Arab nations. debkafile: The reference is to Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Qatar’s special forces.

In the second and third weeks of November, British and French naval forces, plus 2,600 special ops combatants from both nations, performed landing-and-capture exercises against fortified locations on the coast and mountains of Albania as practice for potential operations against similar terrain in Syria, where the Alawite Mountains loom over the coastal towns of Latakia and Tartus.

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Shut your whore mouth with your Debka BS!
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flo6Az3 Assad's ace up his sleeve Basically the plan all along was not to use (or perhaps only a little) his VX, Saran and other horror weapons against his own population, but against Israel.

It's a game changer, within minutes he will change from being a villain in Arab eyes to being a hero. And it's a very cunning plan too because Syria will be cock full of Arabs of all persuasion's armed to the teeth. The Western troops will most likely stand by hopelessly as their erstwhile allies grab all the weapons and ammo and march on Jerusalem. Which I reckon was the plan all along.

Tomorrow is Hanukkah Eve when the Jewish people light the first candle of this 8 day festival. If nothing happens then, another likely date is Dec 13th which is the Fifth Day of Hanukkah, it's also a New Moon and 5 is the number of death. The Nazis followed an old tradition of rounding up Jews to send to the death camps on Jewish Holy Days which has been followed by the Arabs for centuries.

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We dont want anymore of your jewish wars . Go peddle your BS somewhere else.
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hey Judethz hf
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maxieaflo11 Of course we Christians and many Torah studying Jews know how all this is going to pan out. And it will change the lives of everyone, in even the most remote parts of the world...for ever. The following is the best article that I have ever read on this subject, and please note that Egypt is involved up to it's eyeballs.

Syria and Egypt vs. Israel - One Last Time The Destruction of Damascus by Glenn Allen

In 1996, the Lord drew my attention to certain verses in the prophet Amos, with an accompanying revelation that a fourth and final war between Syria and Israel will be a significant milestone in Bible prophecy signaling the approach of the end of this present age. The verses were:



"Thus saith the Lord; For three transgressions of Damascus, and for four, I will not turn away the punishment thereof; because they have threshed Gilead with threshing instruments of iron: But I will send a fire unto the house of Hazael, which shall devour the palaces of Benhadad. I will break also the bar of Damascus..." (Amos 1:3-5, KJV)

The revelation was this: Syria has engaged war with the State of Israel three times (1948, 1967, 1973), but the fourth time will bring about Syria's downfall, marked by the total destruction of its capital city, Damascus. This will be a prophetic sign of an even more significant event to follow: a direct invasion of Israel by Russia, supported by Iran (Persia) and Russia's other allies as described in the book of the prophet Ezekiel, chapters 38-39.
As if to confirm the above, I also came upon this verse:



"Behold,Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap." (Isaiah 17:1)

It should be noted that the 5,000 year-old city of Damascus is the world's oldest perpetually inhabited city. However, according to the prophet Isaiah, Damascus will be "taken away from being a city" and be turned into a "runious heap." This has never happened before in all of history, but has been reserved as a sign of the end-time, unfolding biblical scenario.

Increasingly in 1996 and 1997, Syria began deploying Russian-supplied VX gas warheads on its medium-ranged Scud-C missles, prompting Israel's defense minister to then warn the Syrians that launching any of these chemical weapons against Israel would "put the (Syrian) regime at risk." It was generally assumed by the Israeli press and governmental officials that Israel was implying the certain destruction of Syria's capital city, Damascus, even if it meant the use of nuclear weapons to do so. Since the renewed violence inside Israel stemming from the Palestinian "intifada" that began afresh in September, 2000, the situation has only worsened, including the border threats.

In November, 2000, the commander of Israel's Galilee Forces, Brig. General Moshe Kaplinksy, stated that Israel might be forced to attack Damascus because of increasing terror attacks by Hizb'Allah forces operating in southern Lebanon along Israel's northern borders, who are supported from Damascus by the Syrian regime and also by Iran. The Damascus airport has always been the main conduit for Iranian and other arms to Hizb'Allah, and warnings from Israeli officials to Syria continue.

In 1973, near the end of the Yom Kippur War, Israeli tanks had approached within 20 kilometers of Damascus, but halted at the request of the United States, because the Soviet Union (Russia) was poised to move to Syria's defense. Syria was a major client state in which the Soviets were heavily invested both militarily and politically. Russian paratroopers were in planes and the U.S. military went on world-wide alert ("defcon 3") for what might have become World War III.

As in all Arab-Israeli conflicts in modern times, Russia has trained, equipped and provided manpower to help the Arab nations fullfill their Islamic-driven mandate to "drive Israel into the sea." However, as promised in the scriptures, God will not let Israel's enemies win--nor will he allow Russia itself, like a Goliath against little David, to destroy the Jewish state, which it will attempt to do following the coming Syrian conflict.

Another scripture concerning Syria's final challenge to Israel comes from the prophet Micah (chapter five, verses 2-6) in a messianic-related verse that predicts a Syrian ("Assyrian") invasion in the latter times of history, one that would occur after the fame of Israel's "ruler" (e.g., messiah, Jesus Christ) would have spread to the "ends of the earth," and after God had "regathered" the Jews back to their ancient homeland, as confirmed by many other prophecies.



"And they shall waste the land of Assyria with the sword, and the land of Nimrod in the entrances thereof: thus shall he deliver us from the Assyrian, when he comes into our land, and when he treads within our borders." - (Micah 5:6)

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hey Judethz hf
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Shut your whore mouth with your Debka BS!
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of course us chrishthianchs and jewfs and musulmernns...blablabla go to your hell with your friends and leave us alone in peacedamned2
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We dont want anymore of your jewish wars . Go peddle your BS somewhere else.
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girlwithdog You don't want wars. Then your frigging ancestors should have thought of that before they started murdering innocent Jewish people who never did them any harm. Better wake up while you are still blessed with a little time.
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blackcat Paris: DEBKAfile Special Report December 7, 2012,

Joint British-French Albanian Lion ExerciseSources close to the French Defense Ministry reported Friday, Dec. 7, that a Western-Arab military intervention against the Assad regime is due to begin shortly with the participation of the US, France, Britain, Turkey, Jordan and other anti-Assad Arab nations. debkafile: The reference is to Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Qatar’s special forces.

In the second and third weeks of November, British and French naval forces, plus 2,600 special ops combatants from both nations, performed landing-and-capture exercises against fortified locations on the coast and mountains of Albania as practice for potential operations against similar terrain in Syria, where the Alawite Mountains loom over the coastal towns of Latakia and Tartus.

Edited to under 50% with link. [link to www.debka.com]
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i am vehemently against this, but i live in a country where i am taxed to death and have absolutely NO say how that money is spent.


the syrians could wipe themselves out and why shoud we care?
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of course us chrishthianchs and jewfs and musulmernns...blablabla go to your hell with your friends and leave us alone in peacedamned2
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we would leave you alone and there still would be no peace. islam does not recognize peace as a way of life.
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omg so many hateful Muslims on tonight!

leave Judeth alone she is awesome!
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:flo6::Az3: Assad's ace up his sleeve Basically the plan all along was not to use (or perhaps only a little) his VX, Saran and other horror weapons against his own population, but against Israel.

It's a game changer, within minutes he will change from being a villain in Arab eyes to being a hero. And it's a very cunning plan too because Syria will be cock full of Arabs of all persuasion's armed to the teeth. The Western troops will most likely stand by hopelessly as their erstwhile allies grab all the weapons and ammo and march on Jerusalem. Which I reckon was the plan all along.

Tomorrow is Hanukkah Eve when the Jewish people light the first candle of this 8 day festival. If nothing happens then, another likely date is Dec 13th which is the Fifth Day of Hanukkah, it's also a New Moon and 5 is the number of death. The Nazis followed an old tradition of rounding up Jews to send to the death camps on Jewish Holy Days which has been followed by the Arabs for centuries.
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very interesting...and possible.

but like you said some of us know how it ends.
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i am vehemently against this, but i live in a country where i am taxed to death and have absolutely NO say how that money is spent.

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kitty Don't we all. hf

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:flo6::Az3: Assad's ace up his sleeve Basically the plan all along was not to use (or perhaps only a little) his VX, Saran and other horror weapons against his own population, but against Israel.

It's a game changer, within minutes he will change from being a villain in Arab eyes to being a hero. And it's a very cunning plan too because Syria will be cock full of Arabs of all persuasion's armed to the teeth. The Western troops will most likely stand by hopelessly as their erstwhile allies grab all the weapons and ammo and march on Jerusalem. Which I reckon was the plan all along.

Tomorrow is Hanukkah Eve when the Jewish people light the first candle of this 8 day festival. If nothing happens then, another likely date is Dec 13th which is the Fifth Day of Hanukkah, it's also a New Moon and 5 is the number of death. The Nazis followed an old tradition of rounding up Jews to send to the death camps on Jewish Holy Days which has been followed by the Arabs for centuries.
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That's what would be called Pyrric victory.

Israel has the best intelligence & radars in the world. Look up 'X-Band' and 'Super Green-Pine'. Plus satellites of course- both their own and access to American/NATO.

Now of course, Turke, Jordan, Qatar, Saudi, UEE, Kuwaiti special forces have already mapped out all Assad's vital military infrastructure.

Chances are, before Assad could even launch anything -- remember these ae BIG missiles stationed in isolated areas and special bases, not the small stuff Gaza terrorists can more easily conceal in civilian infrastructures (although Israel destroyed both Hezbollah and Hamas larger rockets & underground launchers within fist few minutes of both wars.)

Whatever Assad does manage to launch, will be INTERCEPTED by combination of Aegis SM-3, THAAD, Arrow 2, PAC-3, Magic Wand; heck, even the 5th Iron dome battery that can handle smaller Zelzal/Fajr-5 rockets.

But some Israelis will die. Maybe even a 1,000. Bad, but tolerable.

But that only means that Syria and Iran are almost instantly DESTROYED by Israeli Jericho EMP & neurton-MIRV.

Before Arabs could even think about celebrating....Now that EMP intended for Iran's military, atomic, government & energy infrastructure, will probably also "accidentally" destroy Saudi Arabia and Qatar's massivbe oil/gas infrastructure... thus causing horrific economic damage, and likely leadeing to large Shia minorities to OVERTHROW the King and Emir.

Of course even if Israel spares th Gulf Sunni Monarchies, Iran has promised that in the event of a strke on its nuke program, IT will shoot the shit out of the hated "hereric Saudi pigs" and their oil fields.... Same result, basically.

Of course unnder such drama & fog-of-war Israel IMMEDIATE deports most of Palestinians from Gaza and West Bank and announces the whole area a closed military/hazard zone -- you knnow "for their safety".

Needless to say, world economy enters Great Depression 2.0.

Ron Paul tards are all unemployed, run out of money to buy weed, and the most outspoken ones are quetly ushered into enarrest FEMA detention facilities.

Where in between getting butt-raped by Bubba, they could ponder about Obama's perceived weakness & incompetence that emboldened America's enemies to use WMD in the super-volatile M.E.... thus setting off aformentioned chain-reaction.

In short, shoulda voted Romney. LOL
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:flo6::Az3: Assad's ace up his sleeve Basically the plan all along was not to use (or perhaps only a little) his VX, Saran and other horror weapons against his own population, but against Israel.

It's a game changer, within minutes he will change from being a villain in Arab eyes to being a hero. And it's a very cunning plan too because Syria will be cock full of Arabs of all persuasion's armed to the teeth. The Western troops will most likely stand by hopelessly as their erstwhile allies grab all the weapons and ammo and march on Jerusalem. Which I reckon was the plan all along.

Tomorrow is Hanukkah Eve when the Jewish people light the first candle of this 8 day festival. If nothing happens then, another likely date is Dec 13th which is the Fifth Day of Hanukkah, it's also a New Moon and 5 is the number of death. The Nazis followed an old tradition of rounding up Jews to send to the death camps on Jewish Holy Days which has been followed by the Arabs for centuries.
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That's what would be called Pyrric victory.

Israel has the best intelligence & radars in the world. Look up 'X-Band' and 'Super Green-Pine'. Plus satellites of course- both their own and access to American/NATO.

Now of course, Turke, Jordan, Qatar, Saudi, UEE, Kuwaiti special forces have already mapped out all Assad's vital military infrastructure.

Chances are, before Assad could even launch anything -- remember these ae BIG missiles stationed in isolated areas and special bases, not the small stuff Gaza terrorists can more easily conceal in civilian infrastructures (although Israel destroyed both Hezbollah and Hamas larger rockets & underground launchers within fist few minutes of both wars.)

Whatever Assad does manage to launch, will be INTERCEPTED by combination of Aegis SM-3, THAAD, Arrow 2, PAC-3, Magic Wand; heck, even the 5th Iron dome battery that can handle smaller Zelzal/Fajr-5 rockets.

But some Israelis will die. Maybe even a 1,000. Bad, but tolerable.

But that only means that Syria and Iran are almost instantly DESTROYED by Israeli Jericho EMP & neurton-MIRV.

Before Arabs could even think about celebrating....Now that EMP intended for Iran's military, atomic, government & energy infrastructure, will probably also "accidentally" destroy Saudi Arabia and Qatar's massivbe oil/gas infrastructure... thus causing horrific economic damage, and likely leadeing to large Shia minorities to OVERTHROW the King and Emir.

Of course even if Israel spares th Gulf Sunni Monarchies, Iran has promised that in the event of a strke on its nuke program, IT will shoot the shit out of the hated "hereric Saudi pigs" and their oil fields.... Same result, basically.

Of course unnder such drama & fog-of-war Israel IMMEDIATE deports most of Palestinians from Gaza and West Bank and announces the whole area a closed military/hazard zone -- you knnow "for their safety".

Needless to say, world economy enters Great Depression 2.0.

Ron Paul tards are all unemployed, run out of money to buy weed, and the most outspoken ones are quetly ushered into enarrest FEMA detention facilities.

Where in between getting butt-raped by Bubba, they could ponder about Obama's perceived weakness & incompetence that emboldened America's enemies to use WMD in the super-volatile M.E.... thus setting off aformentioned chain-reaction.

In short, shoulda voted Romney. LOL
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have you ever hear of mobile scuds??

israeli death toll will be much higher than 1000...but they will prevail
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:flo6::Az3: Assad's ace up his sleeve Basically the plan all along was not to use (or perhaps only a little) his VX, Saran and other horror weapons against his own population, but against Israel.

It's a game changer, within minutes he will change from being a villain in Arab eyes to being a hero. And it's a very cunning plan too because Syria will be cock full of Arabs of all persuasion's armed to the teeth. The Western troops will most likely stand by hopelessly as their erstwhile allies grab all the weapons and ammo and march on Jerusalem. Which I reckon was the plan all along.

Tomorrow is Hanukkah Eve when the Jewish people light the first candle of this 8 day festival. If nothing happens then, another likely date is Dec 13th which is the Fifth Day of Hanukkah, it's also a New Moon and 5 is the number of death. The Nazis followed an old tradition of rounding up Jews to send to the death camps on Jewish Holy Days which has been followed by the Arabs for centuries.
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That's what would be called Pyrric victory.

Israel has the best intelligence & radars in the world. Look up 'X-Band' and 'Super Green-Pine'. Plus satellites of course- both their own and access to American/NATO.

Now of course, Turke, Jordan, Qatar, Saudi, UEE, Kuwaiti special forces have already mapped out all Assad's vital military infrastructure.

Chances are, before Assad could even launch anything -- remember these ae BIG missiles stationed in isolated areas and special bases, not the small stuff Gaza terrorists can more easily conceal in civilian infrastructures (although Israel destroyed both Hezbollah and Hamas larger rockets & underground launchers within fist few minutes of both wars.)

Whatever Assad does manage to launch, will be INTERCEPTED by combination of Aegis SM-3, THAAD, Arrow 2, PAC-3, Magic Wand; heck, even the 5th Iron dome battery that can handle smaller Zelzal/Fajr-5 rockets.

But some Israelis will die. Maybe even a 1,000. Bad, but tolerable.

But that only means that Syria and Iran are almost instantly DESTROYED by Israeli Jericho EMP & neurton-MIRV.

Before Arabs could even think about celebrating....Now that EMP intended for Iran's military, atomic, government & energy infrastructure, will probably also "accidentally" destroy Saudi Arabia and Qatar's massivbe oil/gas infrastructure... thus causing horrific economic damage, and likely leadeing to large Shia minorities to OVERTHROW the King and Emir.

Of course even if Israel spares th Gulf Sunni Monarchies, Iran has promised that in the event of a strke on its nuke program, IT will shoot the shit out of the hated "hereric Saudi pigs" and their oil fields.... Same result, basically.

Of course unnder such drama & fog-of-war Israel IMMEDIATE deports most of Palestinians from Gaza and West Bank and announces the whole area a closed military/hazard zone -- you knnow "for their safety".

Needless to say, world economy enters Great Depression 2.0.

Ron Paul tards are all unemployed, run out of money to buy weed, and the most outspoken ones are quetly ushered into enarrest FEMA detention facilities.

Where in between getting butt-raped by Bubba, they could ponder about Obama's perceived weakness & incompetence that emboldened America's enemies to use WMD in the super-volatile M.E.... thus setting off aformentioned chain-reaction.

In short, shoulda voted Romney. LOL
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have you ever hear of mobile scuds??

israeli death toll will be much higher than 1000...but they will prevail
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Scuds are old Soviet junk. Saddam Hussein shot 42 of them at down-town Tel Aviv back in 1991.

Death toll? One Israeli (not even sure it was directly from missile or from shock.).

And what do you think mobile Scud can do? Hide in the bushes? Every square meter of Syria is now in 24/7 surveillance by US, NATO, Israel & Gulf states -- not to mention, spies & commandos on the ground in Syria dedicated to finding them.

If 1,000 Israelis died, then both Iran and Syria are nuked. Not to the old-school mushroom cloud, either but EMP and Neutron variety. Less splash, much less long-term radiation contamination.... but gets the job done.

But hey, 2 years ago Hillary called Assad a "reformer". Yeah, he's gonna "reform" the Muslim part of middle-east alreght--- on molecular level :)
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assad has the most advanced scuds. suds c + d. not the shit iraq had.

they can be hidden and transported on trucks and trains.

they are outfitted with chemical and biological warheads

assad has a network of underground scuds that move on an underground rail network. and he has plenty of them.

in addition he is a lot closer to israel than was hussein/iraq.

imagine 50 to 100 launched at one time overwhelming israel missle defence systems.

some will get through. its not as people think.

and if you belive bible prophecy, if this is the isaih 17 conflict, israel prevails but get the living snot knocked out of it.

so dont fool yourself. its not cut and dry. expect very high casulaites on the israeli side.

and expect damascus to cease being a city
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blackcat Paris: DEBKAfile Special Report December 7, 2012,

Joint British-French Albanian Lion ExerciseSources close to the French Defense Ministry reported Friday, Dec. 7, that a Western-Arab military intervention against the Assad regime is due to begin shortly with the participation of the US, France, Britain, Turkey, Jordan and other anti-Assad Arab nations. debkafile: The reference is to Saudi Arabia, the UAE and Qatar’s special forces.

In the second and third weeks of November, British and French naval forces, plus 2,600 special ops combatants from both nations, performed landing-and-capture exercises against fortified locations on the coast and mountains of Albania as practice for potential operations against similar terrain in Syria, where the Alawite Mountains loom over the coastal towns of Latakia and Tartus.

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Hi Judethz, many thanks for your enlightening post. It helps to shed serious light on the current situation.......5*
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:flo6::Az3: Assad's ace up his sleeve Basically the plan all along was not to use (or perhaps only a little) his VX, Saran and other horror weapons against his own population, but against Israel.

It's a game changer, within minutes he will change from being a villain in Arab eyes to being a hero. And it's a very cunning plan too because Syria will be chock- full of Arabs of all persuasion's armed to the teeth. The Western troops will most likely stand by hopelessly as their erstwhile allies grab all the weapons and ammo and march on Jerusalem. Which I reckon was the plan all along.

Tomorrow is Hanukkah Eve when the Jewish people light the first candle of this 8 day festival. If nothing happens then, another likely date is Dec 13th which is the Fifth Day of Hanukkah, it's also a New Moon and 5 is the number of death. The Nazis followed an old tradition of rounding up Jews to send to the death camps on Jewish Holy Days which has been followed by the Arabs for centuries.
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indeed, the Nazis' fetischistic additction to centuries-old Arab traditions is key to a clear understanding of their purest doctrines.

Even Über-Nazis like Heydrich would be a little in awe of your envisioning of current Syrian Gov't/ "FSA" clashes as mere cynical shadow boxing as a necessary preliminary to a joint attack on the Zionist entity.

FFS.

You appear to embrace derangement.

You (BKA) yourself.
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assad has the most advanced scuds. suds c + d. not the shit iraq had.

they can be hidden and transported on trucks and trains.

they are outfitted with chemical and biological warheads

assad has a network of underground scuds that move on an underground rail network. and he has plenty of them.

in addition he is a lot closer to israel than was hussein/iraq.

imagine 50 to 100 launched at one time overwhelming israel missle defence systems.

some will get through. its not as people think.

and if you belive bible prophecy, if this is the isaih 17 conflict, israel prevails but get the living snot knocked out of it.

so dont fool yourself. its not cut and dry. expect very high casulaites on the israeli side.

and expect damascus to cease being a city
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1) Scuds are scuds. Very outdated and inaccurate, even the 'D' variant. If Assad dares to use chemical, it's OVER for him and his patron Iran. Saddam fired only conventional Scuds at Israel in 1991, with 42 Scuds only killing 1 person. And he alsmost got nuked by Israeli Prime minister Itzhak Shamir's orders! Only George H.W. Bush personal guarnatees that his huge Gulf War coalition will personally hunt for Scuds and a promise of a 10 billion dollar "loan" to (then economically weak) Israel saved Saddam's ass.


2) Apparently, you simply do not understand what "total coverage" by US, NATO, Israel and Gulf means. Ultra-modern Satellites, drones, 21st century SIGINT, ELINT, HUMINT... and as mentioned Special Ops and spies within Assad's general staff & cabinet. Plus, the Russians who have drawn red-line at Assad's using WMD, watching through their GLONASS program, possibly offering info to Obama or Israel as part of typical Russian quid-pro-quo games they love to play....

3) If NATO/Israel make-up their mind, they PRE-EMPTIVE power they can bring to bear, is truly overwhelming. Even the admittedly impressive Operation Iraqi Freedom or Kaddafi's "Randezvous with Tomahawk" didn't even represnt 1/10 of what Assad will likely be facing. And that's considering that most of his army is Sunni and Alawites who no longer believe in him after 2 years ----> chaces of those missile crews betrayals are at an all-time high. Why do you think a bunch of uneducated, Allah-Snackbar beardos have been able to capture air-defense bases & air-fields close to Damascus lately??? Assad is hemmorhaging big-time.

4) You are also over-estimating both the quantity of Assad's missiles and his army's general comptence. His whole huge army & state-security repression apparatus... hasn't even been able to put down rebels, for crying outloud. And in the first year of the war, rebels didn't even have decent RPG, nevermind mind a MANPAD. And Assad still lost, what, 500 tanks, IFV & APC??? None of is a good indicator of general level of (overhyped) Syrian army.

5) "Barrage of 100's simulteneous Scuds"? LOL, you've got to be kidding me. This isn't Soviet Union at its peak, we're talking about here. Most of Assad's missiles will be hit before they could fire. Plus, he will have to shoot rockets at Turkey and Jordan, and possibly at Saudi Arabia/Qatar, too -- because it's those countries who have been behind his downfall all along. Will he still be able to get off a few dozen missiles at Israel? Probably.

6) Now Saddam's 42 Scuds showed that you it's more difficult than just firing a few dozen if you want to exact a heavy damage/toll. So of course most of those missiles will not hit populated areas or vital infrastructure. Secondly, Israel alone has 100's of interceptors -- multiple would be fired for EVERY Syrian missile.

Remember, you're not talking just one system here, but several of the most sophisticated ones available:

Aegis SM-3 (US destroyers parked off Syrian coast)
THAAD
Arrow-2
PAC-3
Magic Wand
Iron-Dome (only newer 5th battery, though)


7) Cyber/EW. Remember, one of the reason "someone" was able to bomb Assad's nuke reactor in Septemer 2007 --- was because they employed unknown technology that essentially blinded Assad's radars, communication networks. In the event of war, Assad may find himself unable to even give command and the mobile launchers to execute them.


And, again, Israeli casualties even in the 100's, will be the WORST mistake Assad and his Ayatollah patrons EVER made. It's one thing a few Grads, but no amount of international pressure will contain Israel's wrath in a major war.

Assad would be served just negotiating a face-saving exit or carving up an Alwawite state in Latakia -- and turning over chemical weapons to the "Coalition of the Willing 2.0" in return for (under-the-table) money and guarantees that he or his family won't be harmed.
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assad has the most advanced scuds. suds c + d. not the shit iraq had.

they can be hidden and transported on trucks and trains.

they are outfitted with chemical and biological warheads

assad has a network of underground scuds that move on an underground rail network. and he has plenty of them.

in addition he is a lot closer to israel than was hussein/iraq.

imagine 50 to 100 launched at one time overwhelming israel missle defence systems.

some will get through. its not as people think.

and if you belive bible prophecy, if this is the isaih 17 conflict, israel prevails but get the living snot knocked out of it.

so dont fool yourself. its not cut and dry. expect very high casulaites on the israeli side.

and expect damascus to cease being a city
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11378186


1) Scuds are scuds. Very outdated and inaccurate, even the 'D' variant. If Assad dares to use chemical, it's OVER for him and his patron Iran. Saddam fired only conventional Scuds at Israel in 1991, with 42 Scuds only killing 1 person. And he alsmost got nuked by Israeli Prime minister Itzhak Shamir's orders! Only George H.W. Bush personal guarnatees that his huge Gulf War coalition will personally hunt for Scuds and a promise of a 10 billion dollar "loan" to (then economically weak) Israel saved Saddam's ass.


2) Apparently, you simply do not understand what "total coverage" by US, NATO, Israel and Gulf means. Ultra-modern Satellites, drones, 21st century SIGINT, ELINT, HUMINT... and as mentioned Special Ops and spies within Assad's general staff & cabinet. Plus, the Russians who have drawn red-line at Assad's using WMD, watching through their GLONASS program, possibly offering info to Obama or Israel as part of typical Russian quid-pro-quo games they love to play....

3) If NATO/Israel make-up their mind, they PRE-EMPTIVE power they can bring to bear, is truly overwhelming. Even the admittedly impressive Operation Iraqi Freedom or Kaddafi's "Randezvous with Tomahawk" didn't even represnt 1/10 of what Assad will likely be facing. And that's considering that most of his army is Sunni and Alawites who no longer believe in him after 2 years ----> chaces of those missile crews betrayals are at an all-time high. Why do you think a bunch of uneducated, Allah-Snackbar beardos have been able to capture air-defense bases & air-fields close to Damascus lately??? Assad is hemmorhaging big-time.

4) You are also over-estimating both the quantity of Assad's missiles and his army's general comptence. His whole huge army & state-security repression apparatus... hasn't even been able to put down rebels, for crying outloud. And in the first year of the war, rebels didn't even have decent RPG, nevermind mind a MANPAD. And Assad still lost, what, 500 tanks, IFV & APC??? None of is a good indicator of general level of (overhyped) Syrian army.

5) "Barrage of 100's simulteneous Scuds"? LOL, you've got to be kidding me. This isn't Soviet Union at its peak, we're talking about here. Most of Assad's missiles will be hit before they could fire. Plus, he will have to shoot rockets at Turkey and Jordan, and possibly at Saudi Arabia/Qatar, too -- because it's those countries who have been behind his downfall all along. Will he still be able to get off a few dozen missiles at Israel? Probably.

6) Now Saddam's 42 Scuds showed that you it's more difficult than just firing a few dozen if you want to exact a heavy damage/toll. So of course most of those missiles will not hit populated areas or vital infrastructure. Secondly, Israel alone has 100's of interceptors -- multiple would be fired for EVERY Syrian missile.

Remember, you're not talking just one system here, but several of the most sophisticated ones available:

Aegis SM-3 (US destroyers parked off Syrian coast)
THAAD
Arrow-2
PAC-3
Magic Wand
Iron-Dome (only newer 5th battery, though)


7) Cyber/EW. Remember, one of the reason "someone" was able to bomb Assad's nuke reactor in Septemer 2007 --- was because they employed unknown technology that essentially blinded Assad's radars, communication networks. In the event of war, Assad may find himself unable to even give command and the mobile launchers to execute them.


And, again, Israeli casualties even in the 100's, will be the WORST mistake Assad and his Ayatollah patrons EVER made. It's one thing a few Grads, but no amount of international pressure will contain Israel's wrath in a major war.

Assad would be served just negotiating a face-saving exit or carving up an Alwawite state in Latakia -- and turning over chemical weapons to the "Coalition of the Willing 2.0" in return for (under-the-table) money and guarantees that he or his family won't be harmed.
 Quoting: ASV 9842104



Im just syain if this is Isaiah 17:

“In that day the glory of Jacob will fade;
the fat of his body will waste away.
It will be as when reapers harvest the standing grain,
gathering the grain in their arms—
as when someone gleans heads of grain
in the Valley of Rephaim.
Yet some gleanings will remain,
as when an olive tree is beaten,
leaving two or three olives on the topmost branches,

four or five on the fruitful boughs,”
declares the Lord, the God of Israel.


Israel will prevail but pay a very heavey price.


I might add..if damascus ceases to be a city, imaging how Beirut an Tehran will end up.

After all, you cant destroy a city of several millions peopele in retaliation for a few hundred deaths.

Just sayin...
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assad has the most advanced scuds. suds c + d. not the shit iraq had.

they can be hidden and transported on trucks and trains.

they are outfitted with chemical and biological warheads

assad has a network of underground scuds that move on an underground rail network. and he has plenty of them.

in addition he is a lot closer to israel than was hussein/iraq.

imagine 50 to 100 launched at one time overwhelming israel missle defence systems.

some will get through. its not as people think.

and if you belive bible prophecy, if this is the isaih 17 conflict, israel prevails but get the living snot knocked out of it.

so dont fool yourself. its not cut and dry. expect very high casulaites on the israeli side.

and expect damascus to cease being a city
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11378186


1) Scuds are scuds. Very outdated and inaccurate, even the 'D' variant. If Assad dares to use chemical, it's OVER for him and his patron Iran. Saddam fired only conventional Scuds at Israel in 1991, with 42 Scuds only killing 1 person. And he alsmost got nuked by Israeli Prime minister Itzhak Shamir's orders! Only George H.W. Bush personal guarnatees that his huge Gulf War coalition will personally hunt for Scuds and a promise of a 10 billion dollar "loan" to (then economically weak) Israel saved Saddam's ass.


2) Apparently, you simply do not understand what "total coverage" by US, NATO, Israel and Gulf means. Ultra-modern Satellites, drones, 21st century SIGINT, ELINT, HUMINT... and as mentioned Special Ops and spies within Assad's general staff & cabinet. Plus, the Russians who have drawn red-line at Assad's using WMD, watching through their GLONASS program, possibly offering info to Obama or Israel as part of typical Russian quid-pro-quo games they love to play....

3) If NATO/Israel make-up their mind, they PRE-EMPTIVE power they can bring to bear, is truly overwhelming. Even the admittedly impressive Operation Iraqi Freedom or Kaddafi's "Randezvous with Tomahawk" didn't even represnt 1/10 of what Assad will likely be facing. And that's considering that most of his army is Sunni and Alawites who no longer believe in him after 2 years ----> chaces of those missile crews betrayals are at an all-time high. Why do you think a bunch of uneducated, Allah-Snackbar beardos have been able to capture air-defense bases & air-fields close to Damascus lately??? Assad is hemmorhaging big-time.

4) You are also over-estimating both the quantity of Assad's missiles and his army's general comptence. His whole huge army & state-security repression apparatus... hasn't even been able to put down rebels, for crying outloud. And in the first year of the war, rebels didn't even have decent RPG, nevermind mind a MANPAD. And Assad still lost, what, 500 tanks, IFV & APC??? None of is a good indicator of general level of (overhyped) Syrian army.

5) "Barrage of 100's simulteneous Scuds"? LOL, you've got to be kidding me. This isn't Soviet Union at its peak, we're talking about here. Most of Assad's missiles will be hit before they could fire. Plus, he will have to shoot rockets at Turkey and Jordan, and possibly at Saudi Arabia/Qatar, too -- because it's those countries who have been behind his downfall all along. Will he still be able to get off a few dozen missiles at Israel? Probably.

6) Now Saddam's 42 Scuds showed that you it's more difficult than just firing a few dozen if you want to exact a heavy damage/toll. So of course most of those missiles will not hit populated areas or vital infrastructure. Secondly, Israel alone has 100's of interceptors -- multiple would be fired for EVERY Syrian missile.

Remember, you're not talking just one system here, but several of the most sophisticated ones available:

Aegis SM-3 (US destroyers parked off Syrian coast)
THAAD
Arrow-2
PAC-3
Magic Wand
Iron-Dome (only newer 5th battery, though)


7) Cyber/EW. Remember, one of the reason "someone" was able to bomb Assad's nuke reactor in Septemer 2007 --- was because they employed unknown technology that essentially blinded Assad's radars, communication networks. In the event of war, Assad may find himself unable to even give command and the mobile launchers to execute them.


And, again, Israeli casualties even in the 100's, will be the WORST mistake Assad and his Ayatollah patrons EVER made. It's one thing a few Grads, but no amount of international pressure will contain Israel's wrath in a major war.

Assad would be served just negotiating a face-saving exit or carving up an Alwawite state in Latakia -- and turning over chemical weapons to the "Coalition of the Willing 2.0" in return for (under-the-table) money and guarantees that he or his family won't be harmed.
 Quoting: ASV 9842104



Im just syain if this is Isaiah 17:

“In that day the glory of Jacob will fade;
the fat of his body will waste away.
It will be as when reapers harvest the standing grain,
gathering the grain in their arms—
as when someone gleans heads of grain
in the Valley of Rephaim.
Yet some gleanings will remain,
as when an olive tree is beaten,
leaving two or three olives on the topmost branches,

four or five on the fruitful boughs,”
declares the Lord, the God of Israel.


Israel will prevail but pay a very heavey price.


I might add..if damascus ceases to be a city, imaging how Beirut an Tehran will end up.

After all, you cant destroy a city of several millions peopele in retaliation for a few hundred deaths.

Just sayin...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11378186


Who said anything about destroying Damascus or Beirut or Teheran??

Israelis aren't barbarians, afterall; plus Mushroom clouds make for bad PR. Not too mention Syria and even Iran are still close enough that Israel will NOT want any chance of some of that radiation getting close.

No, (target) EMP will mean all the Ayatollah power-symbols; all IRGC military & corporate interests, the energy infrastructure; of course the nuke program.... will be history.

After witnessing the horrific damage done to their entire civilization caused by the Twelver Mullah hubris, the (younger) Iranian people will rip Ayatollah, Majlis, IRGC, Basij leaders apart not just with their bare hands -- with their teeth!

And I am sure a few NEURON bombs will have to be used on strategic, possibly EMP-hardened sites in Lebanon, Syria and Teheran.

Of course Palestinian population will be deported from resultant "security/hazard zones" (indefinitely).

Israel is NOT playing around. They mean business this time around. Muslims WILL learn the meaning of the word D-E-T-E-R-E-N-C-E.
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ayerspeople1 You sound so stupid that I bet you got

kicked in the head by a kangaroo.
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