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Why would it matter, since we know that christians have at some point in their existence? So it was ok to kill in the ME during the Crusades, but not ok for the Islamists to do so today? Maybe they felt the same way during the crusades, but the other side did not care. Do you see the moral issue here?
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I see that you are retarded...

You started out talking of 21st century, technology and the fact that people still kill in the name of god, and I explained that ONLY the Muzzies kill in the name of god these days...Muzzies are who you are mad at, not any other religious group.
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No, you simply cannot read. I started out by saying how can anyone in the 21st century, with all its technology, believe in invisible deities... but if you must, in 1948 Israel was founded based on CHRISTIAN idiologies - FACT. War on drugs Christian Idiologies - FACT. Judeo wars - proxy, through the US based Christian Idiologies... FACT.

Kind of sad when Christians get ass chapped when the tables are turned.
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Can you see X-rays or microwaves? Do they not exist?

Judeo-Christian values have nothing to do with killing in the name of god or religion...only the Muzzies kill in the name of religion and their god.
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What? So when god killed millions in the O/T for promised land, was that not murder? When Law said that stoning was legal for adultry and disobedient kids, etc. is that not murder? ...and don't tell me that Christanity is different, because if you knew your bible you would know that Jesus said he came to fulfill the law NOT to destroy it, so by all accounts, and from most scholars in this field, Christians are still under the law, it was Pauline christanity that went a different way... how many people did the christians kill in the first century, or lets even talk about how they burned the library of Alexandria... or stagnated science by over 1000 years because of fanatical beliefs... sounds all to familiar with your distain for Islam, correct?
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I thought you wanted the definition of irony? 23 years with my wife, 14 days left on the calendar until showtime, and my wife discovered she has a lebido.
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That's not irony but you're forgiven because you're a yank so you have an irony vacuum in your little brain.
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I see that you are retarded...

You started out talking of 21st century, technology and the fact that people still kill in the name of god, and I explained that ONLY the Muzzies kill in the name of god these days...Muzzies are who you are mad at, not any other religious group.
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No, you simply cannot read. I started out by saying how can anyone in the 21st century, with all its technology, believe in invisible deities... but if you must, in 1948 Israel was founded based on CHRISTIAN idiologies - FACT. War on drugs Christian Idiologies - FACT. Judeo wars - proxy, through the US based Christian Idiologies... FACT.

Kind of sad when Christians get ass chapped when the tables are turned.
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Can you see X-rays or microwaves? Do they not exist?

Judeo-Christian values have nothing to do with killing in the name of god or religion...only the Muzzies kill in the name of religion and their god.
 Quoting: BRIEF



What? So when god killed millions in the O/T for promised land, was that not murder? When Law said that stoning was legal for adultry and disobedient kids, etc. is that not murder? ...and don't tell me that Christanity is different, because if you knew your bible you would know that Jesus said he came to fulfill the law NOT to destroy it, so by all accounts, and from most scholars in this field, Christians are still under the law, it was Pauline christanity that went a different way... how many people did the christians kill in the first century, or lets even talk about how they burned the library of Alexandria... or stagnated science by over 1000 years because of fanatical beliefs... sounds all to familiar with your distain for Islam, correct?
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Your argument was for the 21st century...ancient history is irrelevant...the only religion that kills in the name of god is Islam.
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No, you simply cannot read. I started out by saying how can anyone in the 21st century, with all its technology, believe in invisible deities... but if you must, in 1948 Israel was founded based on CHRISTIAN idiologies - FACT. War on drugs Christian Idiologies - FACT. Judeo wars - proxy, through the US based Christian Idiologies... FACT.

Kind of sad when Christians get ass chapped when the tables are turned.
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Can you see X-rays or microwaves? Do they not exist?

Judeo-Christian values have nothing to do with killing in the name of god or religion...only the Muzzies kill in the name of religion and their god.
 Quoting: BRIEF



What? So when god killed millions in the O/T for promised land, was that not murder? When Law said that stoning was legal for adultry and disobedient kids, etc. is that not murder? ...and don't tell me that Christanity is different, because if you knew your bible you would know that Jesus said he came to fulfill the law NOT to destroy it, so by all accounts, and from most scholars in this field, Christians are still under the law, it was Pauline christanity that went a different way... how many people did the christians kill in the first century, or lets even talk about how they burned the library of Alexandria... or stagnated science by over 1000 years because of fanatical beliefs... sounds all to familiar with your distain for Islam, correct?
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Your argument was for the 21st century...ancient history is irrelevant...the only religion that kills in the name of god is Islam.
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No, the core of the argument was why do people still believe in superstitious beliefs in the 21st century when we are at the apex of techology - this applies to ALL religions...
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Can you see X-rays or microwaves? Do they not exist?

Judeo-Christian values have nothing to do with killing in the name of god or religion...only the Muzzies kill in the name of religion and their god.
 Quoting: BRIEF



What? So when god killed millions in the O/T for promised land, was that not murder? When Law said that stoning was legal for adultry and disobedient kids, etc. is that not murder? ...and don't tell me that Christanity is different, because if you knew your bible you would know that Jesus said he came to fulfill the law NOT to destroy it, so by all accounts, and from most scholars in this field, Christians are still under the law, it was Pauline christanity that went a different way... how many people did the christians kill in the first century, or lets even talk about how they burned the library of Alexandria... or stagnated science by over 1000 years because of fanatical beliefs... sounds all to familiar with your distain for Islam, correct?
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Your argument was for the 21st century...ancient history is irrelevant...the only religion that kills in the name of god is Islam.
 Quoting: BRIEF


No, the core of the argument was why do people still believe in superstitious beliefs in the 21st century when we are at the apex of techology - this applies to ALL religions...
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Why do you believe in x-rays? You can't see them...God is very real, even though you don't have the mind to comprehend it.
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What? So when god killed millions in the O/T for promised land, was that not murder? When Law said that stoning was legal for adultry and disobedient kids, etc. is that not murder? ...and don't tell me that Christanity is different, because if you knew your bible you would know that Jesus said he came to fulfill the law NOT to destroy it, so by all accounts, and from most scholars in this field, Christians are still under the law, it was Pauline christanity that went a different way... how many people did the christians kill in the first century, or lets even talk about how they burned the library of Alexandria... or stagnated science by over 1000 years because of fanatical beliefs... sounds all to familiar with your distain for Islam, correct?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3558872


Your argument was for the 21st century...ancient history is irrelevant...the only religion that kills in the name of god is Islam.
 Quoting: BRIEF


No, the core of the argument was why do people still believe in superstitious beliefs in the 21st century when we are at the apex of techology - this applies to ALL religions...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3558872


Why do you believe in x-rays? You can't see them...God is very real, even though you don't have the mind to comprehend it.
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X-rays can be verified by equipment, and yes, with certain equipiment you can actually "see" Xrays. I know of no equipiment that can see "god", do you?
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Your argument was for the 21st century...ancient history is irrelevant...the only religion that kills in the name of god is Islam.
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No, the core of the argument was why do people still believe in superstitious beliefs in the 21st century when we are at the apex of techology - this applies to ALL religions...
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Why do you believe in x-rays? You can't see them...God is very real, even though you don't have the mind to comprehend it.
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X-rays can be verified by equipment, and yes, with certain equipiment you can actually "see" Xrays. I know of no equipiment that can see "god", do you?
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You can see the result of x-rays, just like electricity...I can see the result of God's creation everywhere I look too...without his creation we wouldn't be here discussing it...
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No, the core of the argument was why do people still believe in superstitious beliefs in the 21st century when we are at the apex of techology - this applies to ALL religions...
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Why do you believe in x-rays? You can't see them...God is very real, even though you don't have the mind to comprehend it.
 Quoting: BRIEF




X-rays can be verified by equipment, and yes, with certain equipiment you can actually "see" Xrays. I know of no equipiment that can see "god", do you?
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You can see the result of x-rays, just like electricity...I can see the result of God's creation everywhere I look too...without his creation we wouldn't be here discussing it...
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...but you don't know for sure if "god" created us, or if we are the product of some other force or strange occurance. You simply cannot coorelate and unknown (how we got here) with a superfluous hypothesis (god created us)...

I at least have the humility to say I have no idea how we got here, or even our purpose. ...and until god actually shows himself, in person, for all to see, I will hold my reservations of his very existence...
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This is the 21st century, the technological apex of recent humanity, and yet we still believe in religion, kill each other in god's name, and pray to invisible people... strange?
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Link please.
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Why do you believe in x-rays? You can't see them...God is very real, even though you don't have the mind to comprehend it.
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X-rays can be verified by equipment, and yes, with certain equipiment you can actually "see" Xrays. I know of no equipiment that can see "god", do you?
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You can see the result of x-rays, just like electricity...I can see the result of God's creation everywhere I look too...without his creation we wouldn't be here discussing it...
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...but you don't know for sure if "god" created us, or if we are the product of some other force or strange occurance. You simply cannot coorelate and unknown (how we got here) with a superfluous hypothesis (god created us)...

I at least have the humility to say I have no idea how we got here, or even our purpose. ...and until god actually shows himself, in person, for all to see, I will hold my reservations of his very existence...
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Well, that's a nice turn from your making fun of people believing in invisible deities like they were stupid for doing so...
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Why do you believe in x-rays? You can't see them...God is very real, even though you don't have the mind to comprehend it.
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X-rays can be verified by equipment, and yes, with certain equipiment you can actually "see" Xrays. I know of no equipiment that can see "god", do you?
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You can see the result of x-rays, just like electricity...I can see the result of God's creation everywhere I look too...without his creation we wouldn't be here discussing it...
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...but you don't know for sure if "god" created us, or if we are the product of some other force or strange occurance. You simply cannot coorelate and unknown (how we got here) with a superfluous hypothesis (god created us)...

I at least have the humility to say I have no idea how we got here, or even our purpose. ...and until god actually shows himself, in person, for all to see, I will hold my reservations of his very existence...
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Ah yes, the incessant anthropomorphisation of the creator.
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X-rays can be verified by equipment, and yes, with certain equipiment you can actually "see" Xrays. I know of no equipiment that can see "god", do you?
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You can see the result of x-rays, just like electricity...I can see the result of God's creation everywhere I look too...without his creation we wouldn't be here discussing it...
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...but you don't know for sure if "god" created us, or if we are the product of some other force or strange occurance. You simply cannot coorelate and unknown (how we got here) with a superfluous hypothesis (god created us)...

I at least have the humility to say I have no idea how we got here, or even our purpose. ...and until god actually shows himself, in person, for all to see, I will hold my reservations of his very existence...
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Well, that's a nice turn from your making fun of people believing in invisible deities like they were stupid for doing so...
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...but they are.
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You can see the result of x-rays, just like electricity...I can see the result of God's creation everywhere I look too...without his creation we wouldn't be here discussing it...
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...but you don't know for sure if "god" created us, or if we are the product of some other force or strange occurance. You simply cannot coorelate and unknown (how we got here) with a superfluous hypothesis (god created us)...

I at least have the humility to say I have no idea how we got here, or even our purpose. ...and until god actually shows himself, in person, for all to see, I will hold my reservations of his very existence...
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Well, that's a nice turn from your making fun of people believing in invisible deities like they were stupid for doing so...
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...but they are.
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I love this game! So tell me where did you come from op?
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...but you don't know for sure if "god" created us, or if we are the product of some other force or strange occurance. You simply cannot coorelate and unknown (how we got here) with a superfluous hypothesis (god created us)...

I at least have the humility to say I have no idea how we got here, or even our purpose. ...and until god actually shows himself, in person, for all to see, I will hold my reservations of his very existence...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3558872


Well, that's a nice turn from your making fun of people believing in invisible deities like they were stupid for doing so...
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...but they are.
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I love this game! So tell me where did you come from op?
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I exist, at least my conscience perceives this. Where did we come from? Sort of like asking where are we going. To either question, I do not know, nor will humanity probably ever know. That doesn't bother me, however, what does, are those that must rely on explaining the unexplainable through the crutch of a divinity.
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You're trying to say proving God doesn't exist and proving God exists are not one in the same?

Regardless, even the law of non-contradiction states:

"In logic, a many- or multi-valued logic is a propositional calculus in which there are more than two values. Those most popular in the literature are three-valued (e.g., Łukasiewicz's and Kleene's), which accept the values "true", "false", and "unknown", finite-valued with more than three values, and the infinite-valued (e.g. fuzzy logic and probability logic) logic"


Which leaves room for the unknown.
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I'll play along... so if god exists, and is an existential creature, like most want to believe, than where is he/it? Why not end the misery of this planet and help his creation out? Not just some, but all? Millions dieing, starving, and worse... if this is his plan than he is not righteous, if he cannot do anything about it than he is not omniscient or omnipotent...
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Does a judge not want to see no crime in his jurisdiction? Do people still commit crimes? Of course. While God want's to see everyone saved, He's got to cast judgement on those that live wickedly. Some people do not deserve saving due to said hardships placed upon others.
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You are relating god in terms of human perspectives. Not possible. "Saved"? Now you are talking about doctrine and sects, not spiritual generalizations. Why would god not want to step in if he has the power to do so? Why allow innocents to die? What sort of all powerful creature would allow this? If god is far above us, how much more so would you be able to watch the horrors first hand every single second of every day and NOT want to do something about it?
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To determine if the beliefs of those are genuine or if they flee in the face of fear/doubt. What's that old mantra....character shows itself in the face of adversity?

Just because God can see everything does NOT mean he is always watching/seeing everything. Omniscient doesn't necessarily mean He is constantly always seeing/paying attention to everything. Why is it so hard to believe God could simply not watch this suffering?
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I'll play along... so if god exists, and is an existential creature, like most want to believe, than where is he/it? Why not end the misery of this planet and help his creation out? Not just some, but all? Millions dieing, starving, and worse... if this is his plan than he is not righteous, if he cannot do anything about it than he is not omniscient or omnipotent...
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Does a judge not want to see no crime in his jurisdiction? Do people still commit crimes? Of course. While God want's to see everyone saved, He's got to cast judgement on those that live wickedly. Some people do not deserve saving due to said hardships placed upon others.
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You are relating god in terms of human perspectives. Not possible. "Saved"? Now you are talking about doctrine and sects, not spiritual generalizations. Why would god not want to step in if he has the power to do so? Why allow innocents to die? What sort of all powerful creature would allow this? If god is far above us, how much more so would you be able to watch the horrors first hand every single second of every day and NOT want to do something about it?
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To determine if the beliefs of those are genuine or if they flee in the face of fear/doubt. What's that old mantra....character shows itself in the face of adversity?

Just because God can see everything does NOT mean he is always watching/seeing everything. Omniscient doesn't necessarily mean He is constantly always seeing/paying attention to everything. Why is it so hard to believe God could simply not watch this suffering?
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Than that would make him less than omnipotent...
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Well, that's a nice turn from your making fun of people believing in invisible deities like they were stupid for doing so...
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...but they are.
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I love this game! So tell me where did you come from op?
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I exist, at least my conscience perceives this. Where did we come from? Sort of like asking where are we going. To either question, I do not know, nor will humanity probably ever know. That doesn't bother me, however, what does, are those that must rely on explaining the unexplainable through the crutch of a divinity.
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In that case you need to differentiate between man made religious dogma and the other question. where do we come from.

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...but they are.
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I love this game! So tell me where did you come from op?
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I exist, at least my conscience perceives this. Where did we come from? Sort of like asking where are we going. To either question, I do not know, nor will humanity probably ever know. That doesn't bother me, however, what does, are those that must rely on explaining the unexplainable through the crutch of a divinity.
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In that case you need to differentiate between man made religious dogma and the other question. where do we come from.
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Religion = god created us
Me = don't know, part of the evolution of energy and mass creating organization within chaos...
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I love this game! So tell me where did you come from op?
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I exist, at least my conscience perceives this. Where did we come from? Sort of like asking where are we going. To either question, I do not know, nor will humanity probably ever know. That doesn't bother me, however, what does, are those that must rely on explaining the unexplainable through the crutch of a divinity.
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In that case you need to differentiate between man made religious dogma and the other question. where do we come from.
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Religion = god created us
Me = don't know, part of the evolution of energy and mass creating organization within chaos...
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I think you're missing the point. What you're talking about (ie mass creating organization through chaos) didn't just appear, and nor does it exist in nothing. Everything you think about and describe is physical and has an origin, a creator (although i don't like that as it's anthropomorphised ) and so has a beginning.
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You can see the result of x-rays, just like electricity...I can see the result of God's creation everywhere I look too...without his creation we wouldn't be here discussing it...
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...but you don't know for sure if "god" created us, or if we are the product of some other force or strange occurance. You simply cannot coorelate and unknown (how we got here) with a superfluous hypothesis (god created us)...

I at least have the humility to say I have no idea how we got here, or even our purpose. ...and until god actually shows himself, in person, for all to see, I will hold my reservations of his very existence...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3558872


Well, that's a nice turn from your making fun of people believing in invisible deities like they were stupid for doing so...
 Quoting: BRIEF





...but they are.
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Believing in a creator is only logical...
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...but you don't know for sure if "god" created us, or if we are the product of some other force or strange occurance. You simply cannot coorelate and unknown (how we got here) with a superfluous hypothesis (god created us)...

I at least have the humility to say I have no idea how we got here, or even our purpose. ...and until god actually shows himself, in person, for all to see, I will hold my reservations of his very existence...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3558872


Well, that's a nice turn from your making fun of people believing in invisible deities like they were stupid for doing so...
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...but they are.
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Believing in a creator is only logical...
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No, it is not. Its logical when your at the ass end of technology and you use superstition to explain the unknown, as our forefathers did... as you advance so should your premises and thoughts...
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Well, that's a nice turn from your making fun of people believing in invisible deities like they were stupid for doing so...
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...but they are.
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Believing in a creator is only logical...
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No, it is not. Its logical when your at the ass end of technology and you use superstition to explain the unknown, as our forefathers did... as you advance so should your premises and thoughts...
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As we develop technologies that allow us to further study and observe the complexity and no doubt intelligent design of the world and universe, I have no option logically but to accept that a creator made it all...
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...but they are.
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Believing in a creator is only logical...
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No, it is not. Its logical when your at the ass end of technology and you use superstition to explain the unknown, as our forefathers did... as you advance so should your premises and thoughts...
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As we develop technologies that allow us to further study and observe the complexity and no doubt intelligent design of the world and universe, I have no option logically but to accept that a creator made it all...
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So where is your creator? Did he abandon you? Or does he subscribe to a primitive 2 century BC understanding theocracy? Where is your creator? Why is he so bashful to show himself to his creation? Maybe he doesn't care...
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Believing in a creator is only logical...
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No, it is not. Its logical when your at the ass end of technology and you use superstition to explain the unknown, as our forefathers did... as you advance so should your premises and thoughts...
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As we develop technologies that allow us to further study and observe the complexity and no doubt intelligent design of the world and universe, I have no option logically but to accept that a creator made it all...
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So where is your creator? Did he abandon you? Or does he subscribe to a primitive 2 century BC understanding theocracy? Where is your creator? Why is he so bashful to show himself to his creation? Maybe he doesn't care...


For true free will to exist he must not interfere...if you do not want to be part of his family, in the end, you will not be forced to be...
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With freedom comes responsibility.

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12/07/2012 04:57 PM
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No, it is not. Its logical when your at the ass end of technology and you use superstition to explain the unknown, as our forefathers did... as you advance so should your premises and thoughts...
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As we develop technologies that allow us to further study and observe the complexity and no doubt intelligent design of the world and universe, I have no option logically but to accept that a creator made it all...
 Quoting: BRIEF




So where is your creator? Did he abandon you? Or does he subscribe to a primitive 2 century BC understanding theocracy? Where is your creator? Why is he so bashful to show himself to his creation? Maybe he doesn't care...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3558872


For true free will to exist he must not interfere...if you do not want to be part of his family, in the end, you will not be forced to be...
 Quoting: BRIEF




OK, but if you believe in the bible stories did not god interfere at the tower of babel, the flood, job and his family, and even the original humans in their choice?
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12/07/2012 05:11 PM
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Re: Definition of irony...
God...... or whatever your beliefs call he/she/it.....is Reality itself. A fractal energy being that uses all life as it's senses in all dimensions.

We are naught but thoughts of God. Good, Bad...no difference. This Reality is all in God's imagination. How can it not be if he/she/it is Omnipotent and Eternal???? God made sin to make his dreams more interesting....it'd be pretty boring to only watch Shirley Temple movies, would'nt it?

Why put your faith in religion? "Faith" and Belief" are BULLSHIT. Only KNOWING from direct experience will show you the truth of what Reality is..

As Voldemort put it---"There is no Good or Evil....only Power..." (I would substitute KNOWING for power)

I would add that the only reason we are here in this Reality is to do our damndest to relax the grip of the Ego enough to REMEMBER that we are all God. Each of us a tiny fractal that can grow into God-Realization.

Until this happens? You are only playing Ego games to entertain God. It's time to wake up and be God instead of playing games!

Nothing Else Matters.
This is why we are here!
To Wake the Hell Up and REMEMBER.
EVERYTHING else that you concern yourself with is nothing but a distraction of the Ego, who wants to take up all your attention so that you never wake up.

And it seems that Time is short......
So get with the program and wake up from this shitty dream!

Namaste
-Boypony
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12/07/2012 05:13 PM
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God...... or whatever your beliefs call he/she/it.....is Reality itself. A fractal energy being that uses all life as it's senses in all dimensions.

We are naught but thoughts of God. Good, Bad...no difference. This Reality is all in God's imagination. How can it not be if he/she/it is Omnipotent and Eternal???? God made sin to make his dreams more interesting....it'd be pretty boring to only watch Shirley Temple movies, would'nt it?

Why put your faith in religion? "Faith" and Belief" are BULLSHIT. Only KNOWING from direct experience will show you the truth of what Reality is..

As Voldemort put it---"There is no Good or Evil....only Power..." (I would substitute KNOWING for power)

I would add that the only reason we are here in this Reality is to do our damndest to relax the grip of the Ego enough to REMEMBER that we are all God. Each of us a tiny fractal that can grow into God-Realization.

Until this happens? You are only playing Ego games to entertain God. It's time to wake up and be God instead of playing games!

Nothing Else Matters.
This is why we are here!
To Wake the Hell Up and REMEMBER.
EVERYTHING else that you concern yourself with is nothing but a distraction of the Ego, who wants to take up all your attention so that you never wake up.

And it seems that Time is short......
So get with the program and wake up from this shitty dream!

Namaste
-Boypony
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You realize that that concept does some major mind bending? I'm not discounting that, it just require some major mental reworking... wake up to what may I ask?
BRIEF
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As we develop technologies that allow us to further study and observe the complexity and no doubt intelligent design of the world and universe, I have no option logically but to accept that a creator made it all...
 Quoting: BRIEF




So where is your creator? Did he abandon you? Or does he subscribe to a primitive 2 century BC understanding theocracy? Where is your creator? Why is he so bashful to show himself to his creation? Maybe he doesn't care...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3558872


For true free will to exist he must not interfere...if you do not want to be part of his family, in the end, you will not be forced to be...
 Quoting: BRIEF




OK, but if you believe in the bible stories did not god interfere at the tower of babel, the flood, job and his family, and even the original humans in their choice?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3558872


Those are stories about alien intervention, but I don't believe they are about God intervening...they just didn't know how else to explain them...
With freedom comes responsibility.

Heterosexual pride!

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12/07/2012 05:27 PM
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God...... or whatever your beliefs call he/she/it.....is Reality itself. A fractal energy being that uses all life as it's senses in all dimensions.

We are naught but thoughts of God. Good, Bad...no difference. This Reality is all in God's imagination. How can it not be if he/she/it is Omnipotent and Eternal???? God made sin to make his dreams more interesting....it'd be pretty boring to only watch Shirley Temple movies, would'nt it?

Why put your faith in religion? "Faith" and Belief" are BULLSHIT. Only KNOWING from direct experience will show you the truth of what Reality is..

As Voldemort put it---"There is no Good or Evil....only Power..." (I would substitute KNOWING for power)

I would add that the only reason we are here in this Reality is to do our damndest to relax the grip of the Ego enough to REMEMBER that we are all God. Each of us a tiny fractal that can grow into God-Realization.

Until this happens? You are only playing Ego games to entertain God. It's time to wake up and be God instead of playing games!

Nothing Else Matters.
This is why we are here!


To Wake the Hell Up and REMEMBER.
EVERYTHING else that you concern yourself with is nothing but a distraction of the Ego, who wants to take up all your attention so that you never wake up.

And it seems that Time is short......
So get with the program and wake up from this shitty dream!

Namaste
-Boypony
 Quoting: Boypony




You realize that that concept does some major mind bending? I'm not discounting that, it just require some major mental reworking... wake up to what may I ask?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3558872


OP-
Wake up and Remember that You are God. Now remember since this God/Reality/Life thing is a fractal-we are a small piece of this. So you may not be able to do miracles (yet) -that does not discount that you can KNOW w/o any doubt- that you are God.

Kinda takes the pressure off...especially in this "time" of doom-a-geddon that we seem to be in. So no worries...it's all good...just a good movie that will be over soon. (Even if it ends when you're 100 it's still a blink in the eye of your eternal God-Self.

So Relax. Fuck it. All this crap doesn't matter!

Namaste
-Boypony
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The nail tasted kind of IRONY.

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