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If states legalize marijuana - how will the Feds be able to hirer anyone?

 
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If states legalize marijuana - how will the Feds be able to hirer anyone?
Considering most Fed jobs require you to be free from illegal narcotic usage? Strange, I believe that the candidate pool will shrink tremendously...
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12/07/2012 03:10 PM
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Re: If states legalize marijuana - how will the Feds be able to hirer anyone?
I don't think there will be all that much more marijuana users.

just more legal users.

Federal Jobs will still require the applicant to refrain from using marijuana.

I read that in Washington that Boing and Costco will still be barring their employees from using marijuana. that's their right to do so.
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12/07/2012 03:19 PM
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Re: If states legalize marijuana - how will the Feds be able to hirer anyone?
I don't think there will be all that much more marijuana users.

just more legal users.

Federal Jobs will still require the applicant to refrain from using marijuana.

I read that in Washington that Boing and Costco will still be barring their employees from using marijuana. that's their right to do so.
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I see candidate pools shrinking up in the near future. ...and yes, I see big legal issues in the future...
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My employer does random and pre-employment testing as well. Its just part of certain job, if you want the job bad enough you won't smoke. Plus I think people would frown upon stoned pilots and flight attendants.
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12/07/2012 03:31 PM
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Re: If states legalize marijuana - how will the Feds be able to hirer anyone?
use your head...

alcohol has been legal for quite some time, but people aren't just allowed to be drunk at their job
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12/07/2012 03:36 PM
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since MJ stays in your system for months, i think the defense of 2nd hand smoke will work.
so all you people, smoke like crazy around any federal, boing,costco, and any other company that refuses to let people do legal things on their own time.
when the company has no employees and all new hires don't pass, they will give up.
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use your head...

alcohol has been legal for quite some time, but people aren't just allowed to be drunk at their job
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I agree. What I am saying though is that these jobs don't care if you have ever drank, but they do care if you used pot. The problem I believe lies in that states are usurping fed law and making it legal. So some issues I believe will arise legally between states rights, fed law, and employment... now the arena of "medical" is going to get even worse as people use medical law protection and acts in their favor...
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Personally I don't use, and never would, not my thing. Yet, with an increase in states making it legal big legal challenges arise. Personally, make the shit legal, tax it, but punish people the same as you would driving under the influence... I don't really see what the big issue is to be honest... it really boils down to a moral issue and morality injected into law...
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12/07/2012 03:41 PM
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it would be fantastic if all federal employees would have to leave the state because of accidental contamination from second hand highs.
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In boulder it's against to law to drug test for marijuana. However, living in Colorado I have found because its available people say they don't like it or not in the mood for it a lot. Sure concerts and outings but since legalization those who smoked do those who didn't don't.
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In boulder it's against to law to drug test for marijuana. However, living in Colorado I have found because its available people say they don't like it or not in the mood for it a lot. Sure concerts and outings but since legalization those who smoked do those who didn't don't.
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Which is an interesting argument that I have tried to share with others. People desire what they cannot have. Same with booze in Germany or other countrys where you can get it quite young. If booze was legal here for lets say someone 16 yo, I don't think you would see tons of underage drinking because most kids today get shit faced because they don't know when they will have it again, and over consume. Same with Prohibition. If you look ate use stats, it was flat, during prohibition consumption sky rocketed, and after booze was legal again it dropped back to the mean...
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12/07/2012 03:46 PM
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Repell the freakin PISS SHIT LAW.................

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Re: If states legalize marijuana - how will the Feds be able to hirer anyone?
Does anyone really know why we have such laws? Why most laws are based on morality and not so much cohesive civilization - such as murder, theft, etc laws, which I fully understand. However, if you want to use something that only affects you, who cares? Really, who cares? I just never understood this.
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use your head...

alcohol has been legal for quite some time, but people aren't just allowed to be drunk at their job
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I agree. What I am saying though is that these jobs don't care if you have ever drank, but they do care if you used pot.
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Then what's the problem? You would not go into an interview or take a drug test drunk, so why would you do it stoned? The only difference being the substance that it is, the user will have to keep clean a few weeks before hand. Like stated above, if they want the job they will be clean.
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use your head...

alcohol has been legal for quite some time, but people aren't just allowed to be drunk at their job
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21666560


I agree. What I am saying though is that these jobs don't care if you have ever drank, but they do care if you used pot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3558872


Then what's the problem? You would not go into an interview or take a drug test drunk, so why would you do it stoned? The only difference being the substance that it is, the user will have to keep clean a few weeks before hand. Like stated above, if they want the job they will be clean.
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Well, as I outlined previously, most fed jobs, and even local govt jobs, contractors, etc. such as Boeing, et al, stipulate that you can't have used, marijuana, for example, no more than 3 times within your entire life or you are disqualified. Now, I would never show up drunk to work, hell, I don't even drink, but I don't understand how they are going to work it out legally if the state says its ok to use it, but the feds say no, especially for employment. So, I'm not saying showing up drunk or under the influence, but simply using it on your own time - herein legal questions start to pop up...
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Re: If states legalize marijuana - how will the Feds be able to hirer anyone?
Considering most Fed jobs require you to be free from illegal narcotic usage? Strange, I believe that the candidate pool will shrink tremendously...
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The FBI already allows former pot smokers, tweekers, whatever. All you have to do stop while you are in training:



[link to www.fbijobs.gov (secure)]

Criteria

You can easily determine whether you meet the FBI's illegal drug policy by answering the following questions:


Have you used marijuana at all within the last three years?
Have you used any other illegal drug (including anabolic steroids after February 27, 1991) at all in the past 10 years?
Have you ever sold, distributed, manufactured, or transported any illegal drug?
Have you ever used any prescription drug or used a legally obtainable substance in a manner for which it was not intended within three years (36 months) preceding the date of the preliminary application for employment?
If you answered Yes to any of these questions, you are not eligible for employment with the FBI.


The CIA treats all applicants on an case by case basis. Many police departments don't drug test at all.

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