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What is the best country to retire to?

 
s. d. butler

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12/07/2012 07:29 PM
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Re: What is the best country to retire to?
Not all expats are retired geezers on pensions. In fact most of us are not.
 Quoting: DrKnow 29269490


From what I gathered, its the baby boomers who were used to vacationing in certain locals, Mexico/ Costa Rica, and that they did not have enough SS to retire. So they pioneered this concept of early retirement in these low cost of living areas.

This is the first I have heard differently.
 Quoting: SlimExponent


OP have you ever even been out of the country? Your posts read like you have no experience,
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You are a Hellish Ocker,
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thanks..it's a gift.
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LOL..i'm bored is all

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Good onya, mate!

Having said that, how do you guys avoid all the funnel-webs and Brown Widows lurking in yer dunny?
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12/07/2012 07:33 PM
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Re: What is the best country to retire to?
Tonga?
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This was not even on the radar. Thanks
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Re: What is the best country to retire to?
My shortlist is Dominican Republic, Belize, CR, Thailand, and I've even recently traveled to the Czech Republic to "czech it out" as an alternative location for my family and I.
 Quoting: TheBiss


Was not considering the Czech, but yes, the others. You are referring to Croatia? Cheaper than Italy and not too far away. (My wife wants Italy).

What do think of Bulgaria?
 Quoting: SlimExponent


Dunno about Croatia or Bulgaria... I just went to CZ. Couple of good things about it for an expat:

COL: The average Czech income (once you remove the politicians) is around $800 - $900 a month.

FORGET living in Prague. That's where the politicians live. It's as expensive there as it is here in Raleigh NC, with less opportunity for income creation. Olomouc, Kromeriz... somewhere in Moravia near the Slovak border, is a different matter all together.

Atmosphere: Like living in Disneyworld.

Beer: Costs less than water in a restaurant, and you'll always pay for water in a restaurant.

Lunch: The big meal of the day. Usually several courses and you can get some right fine lunch specials for around $4 US (once again, not in Prague).

Disadvantages? The language. Ranked as one of the top three most difficult in Europe with Hungarian and Norwegian.

Buying a house or car is very very expensive... as much so as the US. I know Czechs who have gone to Germany to buy cars as it's less expensive there.

Czech society is very post modern and secular humanist. About 1/2 of Czechs are avowed atheists. This may be and advantage or disadvantage depending on your spiritual journey. It's not unusual for a Czech man to have a wife and a mistress, who both know of each other.

One thing I know is that the US is on a path I call nouveau feudalism. The fiefdoms are already laid out. They're called congressional districts. We'll have vassals to Lord President, and serfs who work the vassal's fiefdoms for the privilege of living on the manor. If I'm going to be poor, I would rather be poor somewhere the people are already accustomed to it.
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Re: What is the best country to retire to?
Not all expats are retired geezers on pensions. In fact most of us are not.
 Quoting: DrKnow 29269490


From what I gathered, its the baby boomers who were used to vacationing in certain locals, Mexico/ Costa Rica, and that they did not have enough SS to retire. So they pioneered this concept of early retirement in these low cost of living areas.

This is the first I have heard differently.
 Quoting: SlimExponent


OP have you ever even been out of the country? Your posts read like you have no experience,
 Quoting: s. d. butler


Korea and Europe. Never Latin America. The lack of experience was sorta the point of the post.

Now that I am close to this pension I want to travel again. All I have found of expat communities is retired 60 something's.
s. d. butler

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Re: What is the best country to retire to?
Not all expats are retired geezers on pensions. In fact most of us are not.
 Quoting: DrKnow 29269490


From what I gathered, its the baby boomers who were used to vacationing in certain locals, Mexico/ Costa Rica, and that they did not have enough SS to retire. So they pioneered this concept of early retirement in these low cost of living areas.

This is the first I have heard differently.
 Quoting: SlimExponent


OP have you ever even been out of the country? Your posts read like you have no experience,
 Quoting: s. d. butler


Korea and Europe. Never Latin America. The lack of experience was sorta the point of the post.

Now that I am close to this pension I want to travel again. All I have found of expat communities is retired 60 something's.
 Quoting: SlimExponent


Not that this means anything but I have about 10 years over time in central and south america and mexico. the last time was three years living in honduras.

If you are contemplating latin america I would definitely spend some time there first. the culture isn't for everyone.

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From what I gathered, its the baby boomers who were used to vacationing in certain locals, Mexico/ Costa Rica, and that they did not have enough SS to retire. So they pioneered this concept of early retirement in these low cost of living areas.

This is the first I have heard differently.
 Quoting: SlimExponent


OP have you ever even been out of the country? Your posts read like you have no experience,
 Quoting: s. d. butler


Korea and Europe. Never Latin America. The lack of experience was sorta the point of the post.

Now that I am close to this pension I want to travel again. All I have found of expat communities is retired 60 something's.
 Quoting: SlimExponent


Not that this means anything but I have about 10 years over time in central and south america and mexico. the last time was three years living in honduras.

If you are contemplating latin america I would definitely spend some time there first. the culture isn't for everyone.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


Would you want to retire to any of these countries?
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12/07/2012 08:07 PM
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Consider Austria,
Beautiful alps and countryside in the middle of Europe. Full of art and old history. Easy-going people, yet diligent. Besides, living here is more affordable compared to Switzerland.
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Re: What is the best country to retire to?
I understand that 40 % of those that try to retire to Costa Rica end up leaving. And that should be an easy county.

So I think I could do that. Language could be a problem.

I have a type B personality that can deal with culture shock.

Europe would be the safer bet, but when I say retire I do not mean old codger style.
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Re: What is the best country to retire to?
Consider Austria,
Beautiful alps and countryside in the middle of Europe. Full of art and old history. Easy-going people, yet diligent. Besides, living here is more affordable compared to Switzerland.
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 Quoting: diego08


yes but its a bit:

:windy: cold


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Re: What is the best country to retire to?
Consider Austria,
Beautiful alps and countryside in the middle of Europe. Full of art and old history. Easy-going people, yet diligent. Besides, living here is more affordable compared to Switzerland.
[link to www.austria.info]
[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: diego08


yes but its a bit

:windy: cold


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 Quoting: DUCM900


I do not think these countries have pension visa's. And yea, too cold.
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Virgin Islands. Note the AV.

Cannot wait to go back this summer!


Have HS friend getting ready to move there. He sold all his car dealerships & wants to start a boat tour company on St. Thomas. There are many boats that are abandoned by traffickers available just for the price of getting them running.

It is his sail boat in the distance I am watching.

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Re: What is the best country to retire to?
Since you asked what County...not country...I say Gem County in Idaho. Cheap homes with gardens and great water, fishing etc. Lots of farmland ...apples, fruit, corn. No drought!

Low taxes! I mean in the hundreds a year...like $485.00 for the year. Nice people and nice small shopping. Thirty min to big ole Boise with tons of shopping. Also safe from ocean waves, mobs, hurricanes, twisters, fires, volcanoes etc. Yellowstone is clear accross the state and way downwind. Bread is about $1.25 for a quality WW grain bread with flax, and milk is about $2.29 per gal. band
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OP have you ever even been out of the country? Your posts read like you have no experience,
 Quoting: s. d. butler


Korea and Europe. Never Latin America. The lack of experience was sorta the point of the post.

Now that I am close to this pension I want to travel again. All I have found of expat communities is retired 60 something's.
 Quoting: SlimExponent


Not that this means anything but I have about 10 years over time in central and south america and mexico. the last time was three years living in honduras.

If you are contemplating latin america I would definitely spend some time there first. the culture isn't for everyone.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


Would you want to retire to any of these countries?
 Quoting: SlimExponent


Not Honduras, the income disparity is just to great. Even though we would probably still be there if it weren't for dengue.

Never been to uruguay. I like argentina but the gubmint is just bad.

I think of all of them perhaps panama or ecuador. It won't be as cheap as you think and there will be problems no matter where you go. It's mostly a matter of what you are willing to trade. I can guarantee that it won't be as tranquilo as you might wish for.

Both use the dollar. Not sure if this is good or bad considering the likely economic problems.

Most or at least many expats in latin america marry a much younger local, aka walking dictionary. There is good and bad about that. But I gather that's not your situation,it wasn't mine either.

I guess I'm just saying to check something out for a long enough time before making any hard decisions.

On balance I like the culture and speak reasonable spanish but many anglos develop contempt and can't function that well.

A lot of those old retired guys like on Roatan are basically just drinking and drugging themselves to death.
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Finland. We are white, we have excellent English and we like white Americans.
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india.

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Since you asked what County...not country...I say Gem County in Idaho. Cheap homes with gardens and great water, fishing etc. Lots of farmland ...apples, fruit, corn. No drought!

Low taxes! I mean in the hundreds a year...like $485.00 for the year. Nice people and nice small shopping. Thirty min to big ole Boise with tons of shopping. Also safe from ocean waves, mobs, hurricanes, twisters, fires, volcanoes etc. Yellowstone is clear accross the state and way downwind. Bread is about $1.25 for a quality WW grain bread with flax, and milk is about $2.29 per gal. band
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That all sounds good, but winters gotta be brutal. Plus in the U.S. we got obamacare coming. Health care is too expensive here.

I have not traveled extensively outside this country. But from the Web I gather health care is much cheaper and of the same or even higher quality outside the U.S.
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Hazzard County??? blink

That's just WRONG on so many levels. hiding


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Korea and Europe. Never Latin America. The lack of experience was sorta the point of the post.

Now that I am close to this pension I want to travel again. All I have found of expat communities is retired 60 something's.
 Quoting: SlimExponent


Not that this means anything but I have about 10 years over time in central and south america and mexico. the last time was three years living in honduras.

If you are contemplating latin america I would definitely spend some time there first. the culture isn't for everyone.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


Would you want to retire to any of these countries?
 Quoting: SlimExponent


Not Honduras, the income disparity is just to great. Even though we would probably still be there if it weren't for dengue.

Never been to uruguay. I like argentina but the gubmint is just bad.

I think of all of them perhaps panama or ecuador. It won't be as cheap as you think and there will be problems no matter where you go. It's mostly a matter of what you are willing to trade. I can guarantee that it won't be as tranquilo as you might wish for.

Both use the dollar. Not sure if this is good or bad considering the likely economic problems.

Most or at least many expats in latin america marry a much younger local, aka walking dictionary. There is good and bad about that. But I gather that's not your situation,it wasn't mine either.

I guess I'm just saying to check something out for a long enough time before making any hard decisions.

On balance I like the culture and speak reasonable spanish but many anglos develop contempt and can't function that well.

A lot of those old retired guys like on Roatan are basically just drinking and drugging themselves to death.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


Thank you. This is what I am looking for. The only hard decision I would make would be to obtain the pension visa. I do not intend to buy, only rent.

Well, if my wife does not want to come I will consider the Roatan route. Sounds fun.
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Finland. We are white, we have excellent English and we like white Americans.
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Finland sounds too cold. Does Finland have a pension visa? I do not want to have to renew a visa every three months.
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India did not last too long on my list, even before your post.
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Virgin Islands. Note the AV.

Cannot wait to go back this summer!


Have HS friend getting ready to move there. He sold all his car dealerships & wants to start a boat tour company on St. Thomas. There are many boats that are abandoned by traffickers available just for the price of getting them running.

It is his sail boat in the distance I am watching.
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Have not considered the Virgin Island's yet.
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Ecuador
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Re: What is the best country to retire to?
The best county?

Any of these of course...




Anderson
Andrews
Angelina
Aransas
Archer
Armstrong
Atascosa
Austin
Bailey
Bandera
Bastrop
Baylor
Bee
Bell
Bexar
Blanco
Borden
Bosque
Bowie
Brazoria
Brazos
Brewster
Briscoe
Brooks
Brown
Burleson
Burnet
Caldwell
Calhoun
Callahan
Cameron
Camp
Carson
Cass
Castro
Chambers
Cherokee
Childress
Clay
Cochran
Coke
Coleman
Collin
Collingsworth
Colorado
Comal
Comanche
Concho
Cooke
Coryell
Cottle
Crane
Crockett
Crosby
Culberson
Dallam
Dallas
Dawson
De Witt
Deaf Smith
Delta
Denton
Dickens
Dimmit
Donley
Duval
Eastland
Ector
Edwards
El Paso
Ellis
Erath
Falls
Fannin
Fayette
Fisher
Floyd
Foard
Fort Bend
Franklin
Freestone
Frio
Gaines
Galveston
Garza
Gillespie
Glasscock
Goliad
Gonzales
Gray
Grayson
Gregg
Grimes
Guadalupe
Hale
Hall
Hamilton
Hansford
Hardeman
Hardin
Harris
Harrison
Hartley
Haskell
Hays
Hemphill
Henderson
Hidalgo
Hill
Hockley
Hood
Hopkins
Houston
Howard
Hudspeth
Hunt
Hutchinson
Irion
Jack
Jackson
Jasper
Jeff Davis
Jefferson
Jim Hogg
Jim Wells
Johnson
Jones
Karnes
Kaufman
Kendall
Kenedy
Kent
Kerr
Kimble
King
Kinney
Kleberg
Knox
La Salle
Lamar
Lamb
Lampasas
Lavaca
Lee
Leon
Liberty
Limestone
Lipscomb
Live Oak
Llano
Loving
Lubbock
Lynn
Madison
Marion
Martin
Mason
Matagorda
Maverick
McCulloch
McLennan
McMullen
Medina
Menard
Midland
Milam
Mills
Mitchell
Montague
Montgomery
Moore
Morris
Motley
Nacogdoches
Navarro
Newton
Nolan
Nueces
Ochiltree
Oldham
Orange
Palo Pinto
Panola
Parker
Parmer
Pecos
Polk
Potter
Presidio
Rains
Randall
Reagan
Real

Red River
Reeves
Refugio
Roberts
Robertson
Rockwall
Runnels
Rusk
Sabine
San Augustine
San Jacinto
San Patricio
San Saba
Schleicher
Scurry
Shackelford
Shelby
Sherman
Smith
Somervell
Starr
Stephens
Sterling
Stonewall
Sutton
Swisher
Tarrant
Taylor
Terrell
Terry
Throckmorton
Titus
Tom Green
Travis
Trinity
Tyler
Upshur
Upton
Uvalde
Val Verde
Van Zandt
Victoria
Walker
Waller
Ward
Washington
Webb
Wharton
Wheeler
Wichita
Wilbarger
Willacy
Williamson
Wilson
Winkler
Wise
Wood
Yoakum
Young
Zapata
Zavala
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Finland. We are white, we have excellent English and we like white Americans.
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Finland sounds too cold. Does Finland have a pension visa? I do not want to have to renew a visa every three months.
 Quoting: SlimExponent


Finland VISA information
[link to www.formin.fi]

Think also of Estonia, it is cheap priced white country to live in, many pensioners live there
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Re: What is the best country to retire to?
The best county?

Any of these of course...




Anderson
Andrews
Angelina
Aransas
Archer
Armstrong
Atascosa
Austin
Bailey
Bandera
Bastrop
Baylor
Bee
Bell
Bexar
Blanco
Borden
Bosque
Bowie
Brazoria
Brazos
Brewster
Briscoe
Brooks
Brown
Burleson
Burnet
Caldwell
Calhoun
Callahan
Cameron
Camp
Carson
Cass
Castro
Chambers
Cherokee
Childress
Clay
Cochran
Coke
Coleman
Collin
Collingsworth
Colorado
Comal
Comanche
Concho
Cooke
Coryell
Cottle
Crane
Crockett
Crosby
Culberson
Dallam
Dallas
Dawson
De Witt
Deaf Smith
Delta
Denton
Dickens
Dimmit
Donley
Duval
Eastland
Ector
Edwards
El Paso
Ellis
Erath
Falls
Fannin
Fayette
Fisher
Floyd
Foard
Fort Bend
Franklin
Freestone
Frio
Gaines
Galveston
Garza
Gillespie
Glasscock
Goliad
Gonzales
Gray
Grayson
Gregg
Grimes
Guadalupe
Hale
Hall
Hamilton
Hansford
Hardeman
Hardin
Harris
Harrison
Hartley
Haskell
Hays
Hemphill
Henderson
Hidalgo
Hill
Hockley
Hood
Hopkins
Houston
Howard
Hudspeth
Hunt
Hutchinson
Irion
Jack
Jackson
Jasper
Jeff Davis
Jefferson
Jim Hogg
Jim Wells
Johnson
Jones
Karnes
Kaufman
Kendall
Kenedy
Kent
Kerr
Kimble
King
Kinney
Kleberg
Knox
La Salle
Lamar
Lamb
Lampasas
Lavaca
Lee
Leon
Liberty
Limestone
Lipscomb
Live Oak
Llano
Loving
Lubbock
Lynn
Madison
Marion
Martin
Mason
Matagorda
Maverick
McCulloch
McLennan
McMullen
Medina
Menard
Midland
Milam
Mills
Mitchell
Montague
Montgomery
Moore
Morris
Motley
Nacogdoches
Navarro
Newton
Nolan
Nueces
Ochiltree
Oldham
Orange
Palo Pinto
Panola
Parker
Parmer
Pecos
Polk
Potter
Presidio
Rains
Randall
Reagan
Real

Red River
Reeves
Refugio
Roberts
Robertson
Rockwall
Runnels
Rusk
Sabine
San Augustine
San Jacinto
San Patricio
San Saba
Schleicher
Scurry
Shackelford
Shelby
Sherman
Smith
Somervell
Starr
Stephens
Sterling
Stonewall
Sutton
Swisher
Tarrant
Taylor
Terrell
Terry
Throckmorton
Titus
Tom Green
Travis
Trinity
Tyler
Upshur
Upton
Uvalde
Val Verde
Van Zandt
Victoria
Walker
Waller
Ward
Washington
Webb
Wharton
Wheeler
Wichita
Wilbarger
Willacy
Williamson
Wilson
Winkler
Wise
Wood
Yoakum
Young
Zapata
Zavala
 Quoting: J-Honey


Okay, lets clarify that. Not county, but Countries. My bad.
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Finland. We are white, we have excellent English and we like white Americans.
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Finland sounds too cold. Does Finland have a pension visa? I do not want to have to renew a visa every three months.
 Quoting: SlimExponent


Finland VISA information
[link to www.formin.fi]

Think also of Estonia, it is cheap priced white country to live in, many pensioners live there
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27811313


Nationals of the other Nordic countries (Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Iceland) can enter Finland without restrictions and stay in the country without a residence permit. They do not need a residence permit for an employed person either.

I will check this out but I am not on that list as I can see so far.
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Not that this means anything but I have about 10 years over time in central and south america and mexico. the last time was three years living in honduras.

If you are contemplating latin america I would definitely spend some time there first. the culture isn't for everyone.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


Would you want to retire to any of these countries?
 Quoting: SlimExponent


Not Honduras, the income disparity is just to great. Even though we would probably still be there if it weren't for dengue.

Never been to uruguay. I like argentina but the gubmint is just bad.

I think of all of them perhaps panama or ecuador. It won't be as cheap as you think and there will be problems no matter where you go. It's mostly a matter of what you are willing to trade. I can guarantee that it won't be as tranquilo as you might wish for.

Both use the dollar. Not sure if this is good or bad considering the likely economic problems.

Most or at least many expats in latin america marry a much younger local, aka walking dictionary. There is good and bad about that. But I gather that's not your situation,it wasn't mine either.

I guess I'm just saying to check something out for a long enough time before making any hard decisions.

On balance I like the culture and speak reasonable spanish but many anglos develop contempt and can't function that well.

A lot of those old retired guys like on Roatan are basically just drinking and drugging themselves to death.
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Thank you. This is what I am looking for. The only hard decision I would make would be to obtain the pension visa. I do not intend to buy, only rent.

Well, if my wife does not want to come I will consider the Roatan route. Sounds fun.
 Quoting: SlimExponent


you think drinking and drugging yourself to death sounds fun? Your voice is getting more inauthentic with every post.

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Re: What is the best country to retire to?
Here I am, whiskey glass full, staring down life full in the eye.

Here I am. Here I am. I know you don't like it, but here I am.

Life was a choreographed dance. We played our parts. We played our parts.

And when the haunting time comes, we pray, yes we pray.

It was not me that played that part, no, not me. It was the part I was born to play, but that was not me. Oh God that was not me.

It is nothing more, and nothing less. God help us, God help us all.
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not Australia.
We are full.
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LOL .............I dont believe Aussie was one of his options mate. Just saying , you guys are pretty much worse then U.S. atm
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Yeah, this joint is fucked.

Whatever you do don't come here.

EVER.

Thanks in advance.





GLP