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Crystal Meth epidemic in North Korea: 1/4 to 1/2 population may be users

 
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Crystal Meth epidemic in North Korea: 1/4 to 1/2 population may be users
"Though the North Korean government would never admit to outsiders that there is a drug problem in the country, the Daily NK has filed many reports over the past several years about this phenomena, suggesting that “bingdu” (what the North Koreans call meth) is available practically at epidemic levels inside the DPRK. Articles claim, among other things, that commodity prices rise and fall depending on the harshness of ongoing crackdowns on bingdu; that middle schoolers in Hamhung, South Hamgyong Province, were caught producing bingdu; that teenagers give it as a birthday gift to peers; and, most recently, that Kim Jong-Un had ordered a crackdown on bingdu producers, sellers, and users. Quotes from defectors and sources who spoke to the Daily NK report that anywhere from a qyarter to a half of the population in North Korea are using the drug."
[link to sinonk.com]

See also:

North Korea: Drugs Rampant, Even Among Teens:
[link to globalvoicesonline.org]

Crystal Meth Use 'Rampant' in N.Korea:
[link to english.chosun.com]

North Korea might be struggling with an unprecedented crystal meth epidemic:
[link to www.nytimes.com]

Narco-Capitalism Grips North Korea:
[link to www.atimes.com]

North Korea's Meth Export:
[link to www.thedailybeast.com]
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Poor bastards :(
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Poor bastards :(
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The Japanese military gave it to soldiers as a substitute for food in WWII.

Its cheaper than food when you have a starving nation...turns starving people into zombies that can work and go on.

verysad
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12/07/2012 05:38 PM
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perfect they will be brain dead zombies they will go down easy.Give them more.Fools.Terrible drug and a shame foresure.
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Re: Crystal Meth epidemic in North Korea: 1/4 to 1/2 population may be users
The Nazis created methamphetamine to fight harder and longer.

During the 2003 Iraq invasion there are reports of Iraqis being shot up to 30 times and still crawling towards their AK-47s while high on Meth/Cocaine.

Child soldiers in South America take wads of cocaine, cut their foreheads and wrap a bandanna containing cocaine in it to fight harder.
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air force pilots take go pills

amphetamines
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The Nazis created methamphetamine to fight harder and longer.

During the 2003 Iraq invasion there are reports of Iraqis being shot up to 30 times and still crawling towards their AK-47s while high on Meth/Cocaine.

Child soldiers in South America take wads of cocaine, cut their foreheads and wrap a bandanna containing cocaine in it to fight harder.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15219851


[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Methamphetamine and amphetamine were given to Allied bomber pilots during World War II to sustain them by fighting off fatigue and enhancing focus during long flights. The experiment failed because soldiers became agitated, could not channel their aggression and showed impaired judgment.[94] Rather, dextroamphetamine (Dexedrine) became the drug of choice for American bomber pilots, being used on a voluntary basis by roughly half of the U.S. Air Force pilots during the Persian Gulf War, a practice which came under some media scrutiny in 2003 after a mistaken attack on Canadian troops.[106]
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The Nazis created methamphetamine to fight harder and longer.

During the 2003 Iraq invasion there are reports of Iraqis being shot up to 30 times and still crawling towards their AK-47s while high on Meth/Cocaine.

Child soldiers in South America take wads of cocaine, cut their foreheads and wrap a bandanna containing cocaine in it to fight harder.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15219851


[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Methamphetamine and amphetamine were given to Allied bomber pilots during World War II to sustain them by fighting off fatigue and enhancing focus during long flights. The experiment failed because soldiers became agitated, could not channel their aggression and showed impaired judgment.[94] Rather, dextroamphetamine (Dexedrine) became the drug of choice for American bomber pilots, being used on a voluntary basis by roughly half of the U.S. Air Force pilots during the Persian Gulf War, a practice which came under some media scrutiny in 2003 after a mistaken attack on Canadian troops.[106]
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We also took them on D-Day.

Americans took mixed amphetamine salts through Vietnam.
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Hitler was addicted to meth. They say.
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Hitler was addicted to meth. They say.
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He used it to treat his Parkinsons but it only made it worse.

In the latter photos hes always holing his arm or hand.

He took it in the form of eye drops.
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All part of there plan
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12/07/2012 06:19 PM
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Hitler was addicted to meth. They say.
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He used it to treat his Parkinsons but it only made it worse.

In the latter photos hes always holing his arm or hand.

He took it in the form of eye drops.
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I thought I saw on the history channel that his doctor may have been a double agent and intentionally giving him this to make his condition worse?
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The Japs developed meth for the kamikaze.

It's a plague much like opium across much of Asia, mainly used to prevent workers from sleeping for several days on end.

Lack of sleep ultimately leads to a severe crash or even psychosis.
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The Nazis created methamphetamine to fight harder and longer.

During the 2003 Iraq invasion there are reports of Iraqis being shot up to 30 times and still crawling towards their AK-47s while high on Meth/Cocaine.

Child soldiers in South America take wads of cocaine, cut their foreheads and wrap a bandanna containing cocaine in it to fight harder.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15219851


[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Methamphetamine and amphetamine were given to Allied bomber pilots during World War II to sustain them by fighting off fatigue and enhancing focus during long flights. The experiment failed because soldiers became agitated, could not channel their aggression and showed impaired judgment.[94] Rather, dextroamphetamine (Dexedrine) became the drug of choice for American bomber pilots, being used on a voluntary basis by roughly half of the U.S. Air Force pilots during the Persian Gulf War, a practice which came under some media scrutiny in 2003 after a mistaken attack on Canadian troops.[106]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22089462


We also took them on D-Day.

Americans took mixed amphetamine salts through Vietnam.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15219851



I was going to say I had thought I heard that some Vietnam vets claimed they were given something that in their minds was a supplement, but would make them fight all day and night for extended periods of time with no sleep whatsoever for as long as 3 days at a time? I don't doubt it's a horrible drug, but to be honest if I was in a war situation I can't say I wouldn't take it.
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Amphetamine is prescribed to millions of kids.

It removes all fear, increases focus, and wakefulness removing the groggy cloudy mindfoggyness of being awake for too long.

I take it to talk to women.
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The Japs developed meth for the kamikaze.

It's a plague much like opium across much of Asia, mainly used to prevent workers from sleeping for several days on end.

Lack of sleep ultimately leads to a severe crash or even psychosis.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1725135


Opium addicts are useless to society.

And once addicted to opium you could die during the comedown.

With Meth you just lock them in a room for a couple of days. Give them some cigarettes or coffee, marijuana if your feeling sympathetic.
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Amphetamine is prescribed to millions of kids.

It removes all fear, increases focus, and wakefulness removing the groggy cloudy mindfoggyness of being awake for too long.

I take it to talk to women.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15219851


Ridlin and adderrall are the legal forms of meth.
Who is John Galt?
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Ridlin and adderrall are the legal forms of meth.
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Yeah but that's like comparing watered-down beer to shots of pure grain alcohol.
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Ridlin and adderrall are the legal forms of meth.
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Yeah but that's like comparing watered-down beer to shots of pure grain alcohol.
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Ritalin methylphenidate is a cocaine derivative.

Adderall is 4 different amphetamines in a time release capsule.

Both will fuck you over, I like rit's though (to sleepy to drive, actually have to study something)

If you mix alcohol with both drugs you can create much stronger drugs in your liver that can be fatal.

Drinking on stim's leads to violence damn near 100% of the time.
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To say its watered down methamphetamine is such a misguided statement in a way, meth is poorly made in someones bathroom usually.

Not the medical grade meth that is prescribed to the obese.

The phosphorous from match heads is what rots you alive.
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If you want the most dangerous stim in the world its not meth.

Its 4-Methylaminorex.

4-Mar.

damn near 4x as strong as meth.
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What the hell do they make it out of?
Hair and urine?
You can't just pop in to your local NK Walmart and buy a case of cold medicine.

Last Edited by Carshy McCarsh on 12/07/2012 07:13 PM
Tell me what this tastes like...
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The Nazis created methamphetamine to fight harder and longer.

During the 2003 Iraq invasion there are reports of Iraqis being shot up to 30 times and still crawling towards their AK-47s while high on Meth/Cocaine.

Child soldiers in South America take wads of cocaine, cut their foreheads and wrap a bandanna containing cocaine in it to fight harder.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15219851


[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Methamphetamine and amphetamine were given to Allied bomber pilots during World War II to sustain them by fighting off fatigue and enhancing focus during long flights. The experiment failed because soldiers became agitated, could not channel their aggression and showed impaired judgment.[94] Rather, dextroamphetamine (Dexedrine) became the drug of choice for American bomber pilots, being used on a voluntary basis by roughly half of the U.S. Air Force pilots during the Persian Gulf War, a practice which came under some media scrutiny in 2003 after a mistaken attack on Canadian troops.[106]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22089462


We also took them on D-Day.

Americans took mixed amphetamine salts through Vietnam.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15219851


Every military on earth uses drugs during war... WW2 was basically a bunch of junkies shooting at other junkies.
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The Nazis created methamphetamine to fight harder and longer.

During the 2003 Iraq invasion there are reports of Iraqis being shot up to 30 times and still crawling towards their AK-47s while high on Meth/Cocaine.

Child soldiers in South America take wads of cocaine, cut their foreheads and wrap a bandanna containing cocaine in it to fight harder.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15219851


[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Methamphetamine and amphetamine were given to Allied bomber pilots during World War II to sustain them by fighting off fatigue and enhancing focus during long flights. The experiment failed because soldiers became agitated, could not channel their aggression and showed impaired judgment.[94] Rather, dextroamphetamine (Dexedrine) became the drug of choice for American bomber pilots, being used on a voluntary basis by roughly half of the U.S. Air Force pilots during the Persian Gulf War, a practice which came under some media scrutiny in 2003 after a mistaken attack on Canadian troops.[106]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22089462


We also took them on D-Day.

Americans took mixed amphetamine salts through Vietnam.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15219851


Every military on earth uses drugs during war... WW2 was basically a bunch of junkies shooting at other junkies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4443279


I can't say anything about the Brits or the Americans.

But on D-day they were passing down 40's of whiskey and Scotch down too the landing crafts everyone took a swig and they would pass down another 40 until every one was nice and drunk.
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bump
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If I had to live in NK, I would very probably be freebasing meth or crack.

damned

I understand that MJ is totally legal in NK.
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this would explain why the capital always looks so clean
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Until recently, the standard greetings among North Koreans included, “Did you eat before coming? Are you sick at all?” But a new greeting has appeared in mainstream North Korean culture – and it’s not just limited to a sub-group.

A North Korean exile who was living in North Korea until last year, says, “In North Korea, when people meet each other, they ask the question ‘Do you want to do a nose?’ as if it were a greeting.” It’s similar in meaning to the more common greeting, ‘Do you want to drink tea?’ – except that in the case of the new greeting, the reference is to methamphetamine.

It has often been noted that the use of ‘ice’ or methamphetamine is common in North Korea. But perhaps it is less known that drug use is sufficiently extensive and open that it has become standardized as a greeting. Yet although the phenomenon is new enough that it has been ritualised into a greeting, it hasn’t yet lost its explicit meaning.

The word ‘drugs’ carries strong negative connotations in many countries; but for North Korean citizens, it is considered an ordinary kind of food item, and not because it is part of ritual tradition. Refugees commonly claim that drugs are the only product ordinary North Koreans can rely on to ease the exhaustion of their harsh daily lives. It’s not just linguistic norms and common perception: drug use in North Korea is an entirely unremarkable aspect of everyday life.

Cho, a North Korean refugee, explains “When meeting people, we not infrequently swapped drugs to compare whose ice was more potent. We didn’t have the serious attitudes that South Koreans seem to have, we just did it naturally as if we were exchanging cigarettes. Among young women, it’s also common to sell their bodies for cash to buy drugs. And women still do drugs while pregnant.

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Poor bastards :(
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26402302


The Japanese military gave it to soldiers as a substitute for food in WWII.

Its cheaper than food when you have a starving nation...turns starving people into zombies that can work and go on.

verysad
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29294197


It's not a substitute for food and never will be. It'll keep you running while you consume yourself.
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So that was the market that Lydia was selling the blue meth too!!!
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North Korea is a meth lab on a global scale. An astonishing amount of drugs are produced there and shipped worldwide as part of a hidden trade network.

How could 1/2 the population of one of the poorest nations in the world get their hands on meth everyday if this wasn't true? The Kims didn't build concentration camps, they built drug labs.

All the executions and punishment we hear about is from people stealing drugs from the lab.

Think it over. It makes sense.

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