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What is the Worst State(s) to be in When TSHTF?

 
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If the s does htf, I'll be glad I'm here in south central Kentucky. It sucks in some ways, but we have woods, water, farmland,caves, and folks not too far removed from agricultural and pioneering pasts.
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Anywhere on a coastline or close to a nuclear facility or major river....North Texas or central US is the best place to be in my opinion....of course I live in Texas too so I might be a little partial... lol
 Quoting: DaddysGirl


Why not on the coastline? (just out of curiosity)
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Look up continental bow effect. Its what happens when all that ice up in the Arctic Ocean melts and is redistributed across the world. Simply put extra water weight is brought upon the oceans bringing the continental coastlines down with them. And there's always the chance of a tsunami or major hurricane like Sandy coming in and causing major flooding in a city.

I'd also stay away from LA and Southern MS because of that sinkhole business and all the toxic gasses being released there. I'd say Shit Has Already Hit The Fan there, but most people don't realize it because instead of people dying in one day, they die off over a few years.
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australian desert outback (if you're aboriginal), they survived on bugger all for thousands of years, and didn't follow main stream religion or politics..... they're still with us... albeit a little damaged from enforced 'eurocracy'.....
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But you left out a HUGE reason to never even CONSIDER moving to Australia.

It's full of Australians!

Hell, I can hardly stand them on the internet, let alone actually being NEAR them. I'd be in fights all the time. And I HATE people who start fights.
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In Washington, I know the basic things. Which berries to pick, which mushrooms, how to catch trout, where there's good hiding places and fresh water. I would be willing to guess that everyone knows their own state the best, so it may be the safest place to be.
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Reading this makes me homesick.
 Quoting: Uke


One of the strongest earthquakes I have ever felt was in Washington on may 18th, 1980. And SHE has a violent and erratic temper.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27815245


Well, it would seem that you survived to tell about it.

And 32 years ago? Still worried, are you?
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No but I find it strange when people fear earthquakes because you're right I did survive, and a 7.3 in cali, and a tornado in tx, and blizzards and ice in the midwest, floods, hurricanes, I've never seen a tsunami, but neither have millions of coastal dwellers.

Washington is great, so is az, mn, ny,fl,ha,wy,........

The worst place to be for tshtf is earth. Nobody cares on uranus.
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the worst state is to be TS itself :D
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Seriously - how long have you all been on GLP?

After a few years hanging out here, I have come to understand there is no safe place in the U.S. except South Dakota....unless of course I was busy and missed a thread or two along the way.

Does anyone every hear of any doom in South Dakota? By the way, I live on the East Coast.
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Are you actually going to STAY there in Las Vegas?

You couldn't pay me enough to live there, even if there was NO chance for a SHTF scenario happening!
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Las Vegas, like LA NYC, Miami, CHicago and Texas will be hell on earth. I hope you get yourself to safer ground.
 Quoting: Uke


How in the Hell did you lump five of the most crowded cities in with the entire Republic of Texas?
 Quoting: DeadBeacon


Because I'm here right now, and what I'm seeing isn't good... What's the population here, 25 million? The DFW-Austin-San Antonio-Houston MEGALOPOLIS. Thanks but no thanks, I hope nothing happens this month, I wanna go back to the PNW!!!
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Even though you won't get Tex there to agree with you, your desire to leave there, and move back to the PNW is wise, OP.

Texas?

No fucking way.
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Reading this makes me homesick.
 Quoting: Uke


One of the strongest earthquakes I have ever felt was in Washington on may 18th, 1980. And SHE has a violent and erratic temper.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27815245


Well, it would seem that you survived to tell about it.

And 32 years ago? Still worried, are you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29307010


No but I find it strange when people fear earthquakes because you're right I did survive, and a 7.3 in cali, and a tornado in tx, and blizzards and ice in the midwest, floods, hurricanes, I've never seen a tsunami, but neither have millions of coastal dwellers.

Washington is great, so is az, mn, ny,fl,ha,wy,........

The worst place to be for tshtf is earth. Nobody cares on uranus.
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^^This^^
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Seriously - how long have you all been on GLP?

After a few years hanging out here, I have come to understand there is no safe place in the U.S. except South Dakota....unless of course I was busy and missed a thread or two along the way.

Does anyone every hear of any doom in South Dakota? By the way, I live on the East Coast.
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Make sure to have LOTS of firewood.
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I'm in Texas right now (not where I wanted to be at this particular moment in history) -fortunately far enough outside a major metro area where I would be relatively safe for a little while anyway. I think Texas is probably one of the worst places to be when the dollar collapse happens. I'm hoping it holds off until I can get back to my home state of Washington in the spring.

What state or states do folks deem the worst to be in and why...?

 Quoting: Uke


I wouldn't want to be in New York state, California, or Illinois. Texas is actually a great place to be if you know people and are outside the large metro areas.
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The state of new jack city aka Gotham which includes the boswash corridor.

why .... if you have to ask you won't live more than an hour when the power goes out.
 Quoting: Mr. Toppit


I want to know what everyone thinks are the worst ststes to be in. In my opinion, they are New York, New Jersey, Delaware, Connecticut, Texas, California.
Texas is probably onwe of the worst because of it's proximity to Mexico, when it goes down, there will be thousands of Mexicans coming up here and scavenging, not to mention all the illegals currently here, that and there's 22 million people here.
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We don't have anything to worry about in Texas. We all have guns and we have tons of resources. IMO Texas would be one of the best states.
"You can go to hell -- I'm going to Texas!" - Davy Crockett

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Seriously - how long have you all been on GLP?

After a few years hanging out here, I have come to understand there is no safe place in the U.S. except South Dakota....unless of course I was busy and missed a thread or two along the way.

Does anyone every hear of any doom in South Dakota? By the way, I live on the East Coast.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26143620


South Dakota is harsh. You better love snow and cops.

Big Gov Central, yet they will never admit it. The evening doom on the local news is the constant threat that ellesworth afb will shut down. I would say the real threat is that wal mart would shut down. Not very many people who dare live too far from I-90.
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The state of new jack city aka Gotham which includes the boswash corridor.

why .... if you have to ask you won't live more than an hour when the power goes out.
 Quoting: Mr. Toppit


I want to know what everyone thinks are the worst ststes to be in. In my opinion, they are New York, New Jersey, Delaware, Connecticut, Texas, California.
Texas is probably onwe of the worst because of it's proximity to Mexico, when it goes down, there will be thousands of Mexicans coming up here and scavenging, not to mention all the illegals currently here, that and there's 22 million people here.
 Quoting: Uke



We don't have anything to worry about in Texas. We all have guns and we have tons of resources. IMO Texas would be one of the best states.
 Quoting: Whole lee shit


They had guns at the alamo, the mexican cavalry used lances.

We all know how that turned out.
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The state of new jack city aka Gotham which includes the boswash corridor.

why .... if you have to ask you won't live more than an hour when the power goes out.
 Quoting: Mr. Toppit


I want to know what everyone thinks are the worst ststes to be in. In my opinion, they are New York, New Jersey, Delaware, Connecticut, Texas, California.
Texas is probably onwe of the worst because of it's proximity to Mexico, when it goes down, there will be thousands of Mexicans coming up here and scavenging, not to mention all the illegals currently here, that and there's 22 million people here.
 Quoting: Uke



We don't have anything to worry about in Texas. We all have guns and we have tons of resources. IMO Texas would be one of the best states.
 Quoting: Whole lee shit



Tons of resources? Yeah, there's cactuses and scorpions which you could eat if you were hungry enough, But THERE'S NO FREAKING WATER!!!

5a
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Reading this makes me homesick.
 Quoting: Uke


One of the strongest earthquakes I have ever felt was in Washington on may 18th, 1980. And SHE has a violent and erratic temper.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27815245


Well, it would seem that you survived to tell about it.

And 32 years ago? Still worried, are you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29307010


No but I find it strange when people fear earthquakes because you're right I did survive, and a 7.3 in cali, and a tornado in tx, and blizzards and ice in the midwest, floods, hurricanes, I've never seen a tsunami, but neither have millions of coastal dwellers.

Washington is great, so is az, mn, ny,fl,ha,wy,........

The worst place to be for tshtf is earth. Nobody cares on uranus.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27815245






But common sense dictates that some places are far better than others.

Since I am not on Uranus, I DO care which areas are safer than others.

And this whole Tsunami paranoia has gotten ridiculous. You don't have to live far away from the coast, to be safe from Tsunamis. I live 10 minutes from the Pacific, and I am out of the Tsunami zone.

That is, unless an large asteroid or meteor hits the Pacific. And if THAT happens, I'd actually rather be right on the beach.
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The state of new jack city aka Gotham which includes the boswash corridor.

why .... if you have to ask you won't live more than an hour when the power goes out.
 Quoting: Mr. Toppit


I want to know what everyone thinks are the worst ststes to be in. In my opinion, they are New York, New Jersey, Delaware, Connecticut, Texas, California.
Texas is probably onwe of the worst because of it's proximity to Mexico, when it goes down, there will be thousands of Mexicans coming up here and scavenging, not to mention all the illegals currently here, that and there's 22 million people here.
 Quoting: Uke



We don't have anything to worry about in Texas. We all have guns and we have tons of resources. IMO Texas would be one of the best states.
 Quoting: Whole lee shit



Tons of resources? Yeah, there's cactuses and scorpions which you could eat if you were hungry enough, But THERE'S NO FREAKING WATER!!!

5a
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Don't forget the feeling of a full belly of cotton! So nutritious.
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One of the strongest earthquakes I have ever felt was in Washington on may 18th, 1980. And SHE has a violent and erratic temper.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27815245


Well, it would seem that you survived to tell about it.

And 32 years ago? Still worried, are you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29307010


No but I find it strange when people fear earthquakes because you're right I did survive, and a 7.3 in cali, and a tornado in tx, and blizzards and ice in the midwest, floods, hurricanes, I've never seen a tsunami, but neither have millions of coastal dwellers.

Washington is great, so is az, mn, ny,fl,ha,wy,........

The worst place to be for tshtf is earth. Nobody cares on uranus.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27815245






But common sense dictates that some places are far better than others.

Since I am not on Uranus, I DO care which areas are safer than others.

And this whole Tsunami paranoia has gotten ridiculous. You don't have to live far away from the coast, to be safe from Tsunamis. I live 10 minutes from the Pacific, and I am out of the Tsunami zone.

That is, unless an large asteroid or meteor hits the Pacific. And if THAT happens, I'd actually rather be right on the beach.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29307010


Yes you ARE an my anus!LOL

My point was that every place has some sort of bad reason to be there, both natural and big gov related.

No place is better than others. have faith in yourself and not a location. Whatever hits the fan be ready to run, help out or enjoy the last act.

If you did manage to pick a safe place, you'll never escape the refugees. If the gov survives, there will be displacements, and the golden horde won't necessarily need to be on foot. Remember, all the fema camps are supposedely set up near rail lines.

Maybe the best way out is to stay mobile?
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Living your life around something that will most likely never happen is a fucking train wreck of a way to live. Ignore the bull shit or use it for entertainment, but don't live by it. These people on here are pure idiots, it's like taking advice from people in a retard asylum if you really buy into 99% of the junk on here.
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Intelligent prepping should increase your current standard of living. States that are good places to be if/when TSHTF are generally decent places to live now. Having large stocks of food (bought and rotated intelligently) means you're probably getting good bulk/sale prices, not making emergency runs for missing ingredients, and otherwise saving on your food bill. Not being reliant on outside services for warmth/water/etc. lowers your bills - we're installing a wood stove, and it should pay for itself this winter in saved propane.

Increasing preparedness for disaster does not have to be fear-inducing.
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I have come to understand there is no safe place in the U.S. except South Dakota....
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South Dakota has CANNIBALS.
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This is a complex question. Looking at these two maps of population density, the immediate influx of refugees from a collapse would result in a massive Horde from the Atlantic Seaboard away from the urban centers. Most likely their paths would be West and South, but some smart ones will probably head to Maine.

Any of those states belonging to the Atlantic Seaboard's highly urban areas are the immediate worst:

[link to cache.wists.com]

[link to www.mapofusa.net]

This means: New York and New Jersey will be the worst states. Many people will flee, and that means poor West Virginia is likely to be in their path. Why? Well I doubt they'll head North or South at first much, but look for a middle path through the country. If they head North, they'll most likely run into other fleeing urban people, ditto that for heading South immediately as they leave the most densely populated areas.

Their flight will likely innundate the less urban areas of their states and cause overflow reactions from Delaware, Massachussets, Connecticut, Rhode Island, etc.

Virginia is likely to be hammered by those fleeing into the perceived tranquility of North Carolina.

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Florida while having a warm growing climate, has perpetual issues with drinking water. It's so densely populated in coastal regions. It has such an aging population too. I think it will bedlam for a lot of culturally insensitive reasons to discuss.

Many refugees will die in transit, especially if it happens in Winter. I'd expect major drop offs in the population if they headed into Pennsylvania. Some may head that way since the Great Lakes offers certain drinking water.

Montana and Idaho have long been perceived as safe places. I doubt many refugees get that far, for that means cutting across the Drought areas of the Great Plains.

Things are grim for any agriculture in these states based on rainfall alone unless something dramatically happens in 2013
[link to www.eia.gov]

I wouldn't want to be West of the Mississippi in all honesty for that fact alone.
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I chose my current location mostly for the view. No matter what happens I will at least enjoy the time we have left.
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I have come to understand there is no safe place in the U.S. except South Dakota....
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South Dakota has CANNIBALS.
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Cannibals, parasites, potato, pototto.
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Well, it would seem that you survived to tell about it.

And 32 years ago? Still worried, are you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29307010


No but I find it strange when people fear earthquakes because you're right I did survive, and a 7.3 in cali, and a tornado in tx, and blizzards and ice in the midwest, floods, hurricanes, I've never seen a tsunami, but neither have millions of coastal dwellers.

Washington is great, so is az, mn, ny,fl,ha,wy,........

The worst place to be for tshtf is earth. Nobody cares on uranus.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27815245






But common sense dictates that some places are far better than others.

Since I am not on Uranus, I DO care which areas are safer than others.

And this whole Tsunami paranoia has gotten ridiculous. You don't have to live far away from the coast, to be safe from Tsunamis. I live 10 minutes from the Pacific, and I am out of the Tsunami zone.

That is, unless an large asteroid or meteor hits the Pacific. And if THAT happens, I'd actually rather be right on the beach.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29307010


Yes you ARE an my anus!LOL

My point was that every place has some sort of bad reason to be there, both natural and big gov related.

No place is better than others. have faith in yourself and not a location. Whatever hits the fan be ready to run, help out or enjoy the last act.

If you did manage to pick a safe place, you'll never escape the refugees. If the gov survives, there will be displacements, and the golden horde won't necessarily need to be on foot. Remember, all the fema camps are supposedely set up near rail lines.

Maybe the best way out is to stay mobile?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27815245





I find that statement to be patently absurd.

I never claimed that any one place was "perfectly safe". But to say that no place is better than others is... well... I don't want to offend you, so I won't say it.

And as far as "staying mobile" being the best bet for survival? I couldn't disagree more. Going mobile AT ALL, is a last resort.

Far wiser to find the safest area you can, and dig in with like-minded individuals. Far easier to DEFEND a well-prepared place, than go traipsing across country, running into one well defended area after another.

Good recipe for a quick death.
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Florida is not so bad geographically. It's got tons of water for fishing and fertile soil for planting. Also tons of people just have fruit trees in their yards already (when every other house in a neighborhood almost has an orange tree or something that can be a big asset). The only problem with Florida is the many mutants that inhabit it. I don't mean to sound rude but some of the people living there seem to be responsible for some of the worst most depraved shit.
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Ahead of December 21, which marks the conclusion of the 5,125-year "Long Count" Mayan calendar, panic buying of candles and essentials has been reported in China and Russia, along with an explosion in sales of survival shelters in America. In France believers were preparing to converge on a mountain where they believe aliens will rescue them.

The precise manner of Armageddon remains vague, ranging from a catastrophic celestial collision between Earth and the mythical planet Nibiru, also known as Planet X, a disastrous crash with a comet, or the annihilation of civilisation by a giant solar storm.

In America Ron Hubbard, a manufacturer of hi-tech underground survival shelters, has seen his business explode.

"We've gone from one a month to one a day," he said. "I don't have an opinion on the Mayan calendar but, when astrophysicists come to me, buy my shelters and tell me to be prepared for solar flares, radiation, EMPs (electromagnetic pulses) ... I'm going underground on the 19th and coming out on the 23rd. It's just in case anybody's right." [link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
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.... an ineffective, overwhelmed , unprepared, state of mind
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the illegal state of Israel.
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Why are some australians so fucking stupid?
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Hey Jackass, how about laying off that BS. I lurk here all the time and this site is both entertaining and informative, but it's try hards like you that are probably keeping any decent Aussies from posting.

Shall I throw another brain on the barbie for you?
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the illegal state of Israel.
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Any country waging war on Israel.
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I have to say the state of everywhere.

Stay calm, help others stay calm no matter what!

I know that may be hard to do if people are sceaming, but you must. Block it out.

In the moments of desperation (if they happen) ground and center, calm...

Think about God, Love God and Gods Love, Love everything and everybody.

If it happens and I'm not saying it will, that seems to be the best action after distillation of many thoughts from many and my own perspective.

Best Wishes
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What state or states do folks deem the worst to be in and why...?
 Quoting: Uke


That entirely depends on what kind of SHTF doom it is.

There is no ONE single answer.
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For once, this idiot ^^^ is correct.

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