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What is the Worst State(s) to be in When TSHTF?

 
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The Peoples Socialist Republic of Kalifornia.
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I'm in Texas right now (not where I wanted to be at this particular moment in history) -fortunately far enough outside a major metro area where I would be relatively safe for a little while anyway. I think Texas is probably one of the worst places to be when the dollar collapse happens. I'm hoping it holds off until I can get back to my home state of Washington in the spring.

What state or states do folks deem the worst to be in and why...?

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The Bible says we will all be affected, you can't wait this thing out. Seek Jesus while you can I say.
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Very wise comment - for those with ears to hear. God bless.
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Apologies to everyone else for that post. Interesting to hear how US citizens are prepping etc for what might occur.

I have two kids under 5 and have been stocking up quietly for whatever might eventuate. The worst "state" for me would not being prepared and being able to look after my little boys, come what may.

Peace.
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In Washington, I know the basic things. Which berries to pick, which mushrooms, how to catch trout, where there's good hiding places and fresh water. I would be willing to guess that everyone knows their own state the best, so it may be the safest place to be.
 Quoting: Etta



Reading this makes me homesick.
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That sucks!! You'll be home soon. I like it here too.
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Florida is not so bad geographically. It's got tons of water for fishing and fertile soil for planting. Also tons of people just have fruit trees in their yards already (when every other house in a neighborhood almost has an orange tree or something that can be a big asset). The only problem with Florida is the many mutants that inhabit it. I don't mean to sound rude but some of the people living there seem to be responsible for some of the worst most depraved shit.
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As long as you had a boat so you could get the hell out when it got over-ran with all kinda wicked diseases they'll probably unleash to kill everyone off there when it goes down.

Florida sounds like a death trap to me. like an island prison with a narrow passage to the north that'll probably be choked off from everyone fleeing Jacksonville, Ocala, Gainsville, and Daytona. Hot in the summer, full of disease carrying mosquitoes, which as I stated above they'll use to spread more diseases...

No Thanks.
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No but I find it strange when people fear earthquakes because you're right I did survive, and a 7.3 in cali, and a tornado in tx, and blizzards and ice in the midwest, floods, hurricanes, I've never seen a tsunami, but neither have millions of coastal dwellers.

Washington is great, so is az, mn, ny,fl,ha,wy,........

The worst place to be for tshtf is earth. Nobody cares on uranus.
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But common sense dictates that some places are far better than others.

Since I am not on Uranus, I DO care which areas are safer than others.

And this whole Tsunami paranoia has gotten ridiculous. You don't have to live far away from the coast, to be safe from Tsunamis. I live 10 minutes from the Pacific, and I am out of the Tsunami zone.

That is, unless an large asteroid or meteor hits the Pacific. And if THAT happens, I'd actually rather be right on the beach.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29307010


Yes you ARE an my anus!LOL

My point was that every place has some sort of bad reason to be there, both natural and big gov related.

No place is better than others. have faith in yourself and not a location. Whatever hits the fan be ready to run, help out or enjoy the last act.

If you did manage to pick a safe place, you'll never escape the refugees. If the gov survives, there will be displacements, and the golden horde won't necessarily need to be on foot. Remember, all the fema camps are supposedely set up near rail lines.

Maybe the best way out is to stay mobile?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27815245





I find that statement to be patently absurd.

I never claimed that any one place was "perfectly safe". But to say that no place is better than others is... well... I don't want to offend you, so I won't say it.

And as far as "staying mobile" being the best bet for survival? I couldn't disagree more. Going mobile AT ALL, is a last resort.

Far wiser to find the safest area you can, and dig in with like-minded individuals. Far easier to DEFEND a well-prepared place, than go traipsing across country, running into one well defended area after another.

Good recipe for a quick death.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29307010


If it's a localised event then you need to get away, if it's a world wide catastrophe then no prep will help.

And I didn't say "go mobile" I said stay mobile. The leg work time is now, and having many options is always better than preparing for one option.

Coming across many well defended areas is no problem if you already know the defenders. It's not impossible to know someone in every neck of the woods, at least on the smart side of the mississippi. Look at the night time pics of the united states and go to the dark side.

It also helps to be in a touring band. Lotsa friends in low places!
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the illegal state of Israel.
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Why are some australians so fucking stupid?
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Hey Jackass, how about laying off that BS. I lurk here all the time and this site is both entertaining and informative, but it's try hards like you that are probably keeping any decent Aussies from posting.

Shall I throw another brain on the barbie for you?
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Denial.

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I'm in Texas right now (not where I wanted to be at this particular moment in history) -fortunately far enough outside a major metro area where I would be relatively safe for a little while anyway. I think Texas is probably one of the worst places to be when the dollar collapse happens. I'm hoping it holds off until I can get back to my home state of Washington in the spring.

What state or states do folks deem the worst to be in and why...?

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I don't know but I would love to find a submarine
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If your in a major city anywhere in the world you are DEAD, no matter what you think your dead, 0 chance of survival.

Do you think you can go to the country? Thats a laugh you will be robbed and killed, small towns will set up security fast to protect what they have.

Citiodits will be killed.
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"Citiodits"....You just made my night!! ;)
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In Washington, I know the basic things. Which berries to pick, which mushrooms, how to catch trout, where there's good hiding places and fresh water. I would be willing to guess that everyone knows their own state the best, so it may be the safest place to be.
 Quoting: Etta



Reading this makes me homesick.
 Quoting: Uke


That sucks!! You'll be home soon. I like it here too.
 Quoting: Etta



The sooner the better! Texas is the last place I wanted to be for December 2012!!!
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the illegal state of Israel.
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Why are some australians so fucking stupid?
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Hey Jackass, how about laying off that BS. I lurk here all the time and this site is both entertaining and informative, but it's try hards like you that are probably keeping any decent Aussies from posting.

Shall I throw another brain on the barbie for you?
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Denial.

It's not just a river in Egypt.
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That's the BEST you've got? Honey you need to get a new repetoire'.
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the illegal state of Israel.
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Moran- please pick up a KJV Kthxbai
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And Carl's Jr in Colfax tx and I believe Ardmore, Ok. Brace yourself!
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Carls jrs are poppin up all over houston.
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But common sense dictates that some places are far better than others.

Since I am not on Uranus, I DO care which areas are safer than others.

And this whole Tsunami paranoia has gotten ridiculous. You don't have to live far away from the coast, to be safe from Tsunamis. I live 10 minutes from the Pacific, and I am out of the Tsunami zone.

That is, unless an large asteroid or meteor hits the Pacific. And if THAT happens, I'd actually rather be right on the beach.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29307010


Yes you ARE an my anus!LOL

My point was that every place has some sort of bad reason to be there, both natural and big gov related.

No place is better than others. have faith in yourself and not a location. Whatever hits the fan be ready to run, help out or enjoy the last act.

If you did manage to pick a safe place, you'll never escape the refugees. If the gov survives, there will be displacements, and the golden horde won't necessarily need to be on foot. Remember, all the fema camps are supposedely set up near rail lines.

Maybe the best way out is to stay mobile?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27815245





I find that statement to be patently absurd.

I never claimed that any one place was "perfectly safe". But to say that no place is better than others is... well... I don't want to offend you, so I won't say it.

And as far as "staying mobile" being the best bet for survival? I couldn't disagree more. Going mobile AT ALL, is a last resort.

Far wiser to find the safest area you can, and dig in with like-minded individuals. Far easier to DEFEND a well-prepared place, than go traipsing across country, running into one well defended area after another.

Good recipe for a quick death.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29307010


If it's a localised event then you need to get away, if it's a world wide catastrophe then no prep will help.

And I didn't say "go mobile" I said stay mobile. The leg work time is now, and having many options is always better than preparing for one option.

Coming across many well defended areas is no problem if you already know the defenders. It's not impossible to know someone in every neck of the woods, at least on the smart side of the mississippi. Look at the night time pics of the united states and go to the dark side.

It also helps to be in a touring band. Lotsa friends in low places!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27815245




LOL... OK. Now I realize that I am dealing with someone who is either:

1) Really deluded

2) A shill, intentionally offering some REALLY ridiculous advice to people.

3) Suicidal


Quote: "having many options is always better than preparing for one option."

First off, I never said that going mobile wasn't an option. I simply said that it is a last resort. That is, unless you are someone who has NOT done any preparation in ADVANCE. Then it may be your ONLY option.


Quote: "It's not impossible to know someone in every neck of the woods, at least on the smart side of the mississippi."

Very impractical, to say the least. You honestly think it's possible to know someone in "every neck of the woods"? And if so, do you REALLY think that they will welcome you with open arms, in a situation of dwindling supplies, marauders, and high suspicion?

You could very well get there, and end up being SHOT by the person that you thought you "knew" in that neck of the woods.


Quote: "It also helps to be in a touring band. Lotsa friends in low places!"

LOL... Yeah... I think it's a GREAT idea to place your trust those types of people. Everyone KNOWS that musicians have the highest morals around. Especially when they are hungry.

And yeah... Casual acquaintances are the PERFECT choice to trust your life with, when you come in all haggard, hungry, and worn out, and say... "Hey dude! remember me?"



Anyhooo... You go right ahead and do things however you want, bud. If anything you were good for a few laughs, but I'm done. There's a lot of sensible people I could be chatting with on this thread, instead of spinning my wheels, with a suicide case.

But hey... Good luck to ya, and tell the boys in the band I said hello, from Uranus.
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The best states are the ones with the least amount of people. Look to wyoming or montana. Eastern washington/oregon might be good also.
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Stay Away! We don't take kindly to intruders!
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Agreed, outsiders will not be received well in most parts if all hell breaks loose. We are well armed and many learn from a young age how to handle those arms proficiently. Oh and don't worry about the cold weather for us folks, we'll get along just fine...we're use to it. When southerners come up here and freeze their asses off it's hilarious! Texas is not the only state that has the resources and ability to stand on their own...
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What state or states do folks deem the worst to be in and why...?
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That entirely depends on what kind of SHTF doom it is.

There is no ONE single answer.
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^^^THIS!!!! and no matter what, I do not think I would want to be in Michigan..Detroit is a disaster as it is...
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I'm in MI and we're not all Detroit- in fact it's a small geographic area. We just left mini-Philly (Williamsport, Pa) I'd hate to be in AK. How many months to grow food? Pfft
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And Carl's Jr in Colfax tx and I believe Ardmore, Ok. Brace yourself!
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Carls jrs are poppin up all over houston.
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Maybe that's how they're going to kill 2/3 of us. Build enough fast food crack houses and that'll do the trick for sure.
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Why are some australians so fucking stupid?
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Hey Jackass, how about laying off that BS. I lurk here all the time and this site is both entertaining and informative, but it's try hards like you that are probably keeping any decent Aussies from posting.

Shall I throw another brain on the barbie for you?
 Quoting: Aussiebabe 29311374


Denial.

It's not just a river in Egypt.
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That's the BEST you've got? Honey you need to get a new repetoire'.
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Another day... Another degenerate Oztard.
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Apologies to everyone else for that post. Interesting to hear how US citizens are prepping etc for what might occur.

I have two kids under 5 and have been stocking up quietly for whatever might eventuate. The worst "state" for me would not being prepared and being able to look after my little boys, come what may.

Peace.
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Whatever happens man I will be thinking of y'all . Shoot for your life man
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If your in a major city anywhere in the world you are DEAD, no matter what you think your dead, 0 chance of survival.

Do you think you can go to the country? Thats a laugh you will be robbed and killed, small towns will set up security fast to protect what they have.

Citiodits will be killed.
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"Citiodits"....You just made my night!! ;)
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Shouldn't it be "citidiots"?
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Honestly, if it goes nuts..I want everyone to come to my house, so I can have plenty of meat..er people...to hang out with.
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Honestly, if it goes nuts..I want everyone to come to my house, so I can have plenty of meat..er people...to hang out with.
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No doubt.

That dude in the traveling band I was talking to, might show up for dinner! lol

He never stopped to think that those people in other necks of the woods he mentioned, might be worse off than HE is. And with communications down, he'll have to go hoofing it, just to find out.
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A collection of family friends own a couple nice houses on a beautiful lake. One road in. one road out. Seven of us have combat experience,from Vietnam to fallujah. We have an armory, and went through the most intensive indoctrination the military offers. I think we should be ok, But I'm serious if they want this family, they are going to be slaughtered
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But common sense dictates that some places are far better than others.

Since I am not on Uranus, I DO care which areas are safer than others.

And this whole Tsunami paranoia has gotten ridiculous. You don't have to live far away from the coast, to be safe from Tsunamis. I live 10 minutes from the Pacific, and I am out of the Tsunami zone.

That is, unless an large asteroid or meteor hits the Pacific. And if THAT happens, I'd actually rather be right on the beach.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29307010


Yes you ARE an my anus!LOL

My point was that every place has some sort of bad reason to be there, both natural and big gov related.

No place is better than others. have faith in yourself and not a location. Whatever hits the fan be ready to run, help out or enjoy the last act.

If you did manage to pick a safe place, you'll never escape the refugees. If the gov survives, there will be displacements, and the golden horde won't necessarily need to be on foot. Remember, all the fema camps are supposedely set up near rail lines.

Maybe the best way out is to stay mobile?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27815245





I find that statement to be patently absurd.

I never claimed that any one place was "perfectly safe". But to say that no place is better than others is... well... I don't want to offend you, so I won't say it.

And as far as "staying mobile" being the best bet for survival? I couldn't disagree more. Going mobile AT ALL, is a last resort.

Far wiser to find the safest area you can, and dig in with like-minded individuals. Far easier to DEFEND a well-prepared place, than go traipsing across country, running into one well defended area after another.

Good recipe for a quick death.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29307010


If it's a localised event then you need to get away, if it's a world wide catastrophe then no prep will help.

And I didn't say "go mobile" I said stay mobile. The leg work time is now, and having many options is always better than preparing for one option.

Coming across many well defended areas is no problem if you already know the defenders. It's not impossible to know someone in every neck of the woods, at least on the smart side of the mississippi. Look at the night time pics of the united states and go to the dark side.

It also helps to be in a touring band. Lotsa friends in low places!
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Also, I should correct you on another error.

I said:

"And as far as "staying mobile" being the best bet for survival?"

You afterward said:

"And I didn't say "go mobile" I said stay mobile."



So the obvious question is... What are you smoking? Sniffing? Huffing?
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And Carl's Jr in Colfax tx and I believe Ardmore, Ok. Brace yourself!
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Carls jrs are poppin up all over houston.
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Stand by for Cali doom!
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Florida is the worst you can only travel north. Hawaii for obvious reasons
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You're right. Florida is definately worse than New York, California and New Jersey and Texas. The worst.
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Florida is the worst you can only travel north. Hawaii for obvious reasons
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10310459


You're right. Florida is definately worse than New York, California and New Jersey and Texas. The worst.
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I'm in Florida man..... And I'm a damn good swimmer. So north is not the only option......
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Tennessee... Memphis
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A collection of family friends own a couple nice houses on a beautiful lake. One road in. one road out. Seven of us have combat experience,from Vietnam to fallujah. We have an armory, and went through the most intensive indoctrination the military offers. I think we should be ok, But I'm serious if they want this family, they are going to be slaughtered
 Quoting: TheCartel


Good strategy. And easy to keep a close eye on that one road in and out.

You are a lot smarter than our traveling band member, here on this thread.
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The best states are the ones with the least amount of people. Look to wyoming or montana. Eastern washington/oregon might be good also.
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Stay Away! We don't take kindly to intruders!
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unlesson yourn femail.
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Yes you ARE an my anus!LOL

My point was that every place has some sort of bad reason to be there, both natural and big gov related.

No place is better than others. have faith in yourself and not a location. Whatever hits the fan be ready to run, help out or enjoy the last act.

If you did manage to pick a safe place, you'll never escape the refugees. If the gov survives, there will be displacements, and the golden horde won't necessarily need to be on foot. Remember, all the fema camps are supposedely set up near rail lines.

Maybe the best way out is to stay mobile?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27815245





I find that statement to be patently absurd.

I never claimed that any one place was "perfectly safe". But to say that no place is better than others is... well... I don't want to offend you, so I won't say it.

And as far as "staying mobile" being the best bet for survival? I couldn't disagree more. Going mobile AT ALL, is a last resort.

Far wiser to find the safest area you can, and dig in with like-minded individuals. Far easier to DEFEND a well-prepared place, than go traipsing across country, running into one well defended area after another.

Good recipe for a quick death.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29307010


If it's a localised event then you need to get away, if it's a world wide catastrophe then no prep will help.

And I didn't say "go mobile" I said stay mobile. The leg work time is now, and having many options is always better than preparing for one option.

Coming across many well defended areas is no problem if you already know the defenders. It's not impossible to know someone in every neck of the woods, at least on the smart side of the mississippi. Look at the night time pics of the united states and go to the dark side.

It also helps to be in a touring band. Lotsa friends in low places!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27815245




Also, I should correct you on another error.

I said:

"And as far as "staying mobile" being the best bet for survival?"

You afterward said:

"And I didn't say "go mobile" I said stay mobile."



So the obvious question is... What are you smoking? Sniffing? Huffing?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29307010


You said stay mobile then you said "go mobile" in the response you added go to my stay. So you stay and I will go.

When something terrible does happen I want to be as close as I can to help. I've been through many disasters Including a very large eruption in WA. You stay put and count your blessings, I'll head straight into it and share mine.

And by the way I smoke fish, sniff out trouble, and huff and puff and pull you from a collapsed building.

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