interesting question. many years ago, we had a small article in the local rag about a new property down at Currumbin in SE QLD. the dude was ex nasa/miltary (i can't remember which one), but i found it interesting in that he ran the numbers, and that was the safest place when tshtf. photos didn't reveal the exact location, but it was a bunker style house half submerged with the days surveillance and a clear zone all around the tree line. another interesting point, is i did some e-learning stuff back in feb, for a company from israel (mongrels failed to pay properly), but they moved a kabutz (S?) there, and ran an immigration company and a vocational training company so people can stay on educational visas indefinitely. (she was ex mosad/army, as are all israelies and got her money from working for motorola encoding).... hmmmmmmm....