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Russia Arms SYRIA With Powerful Ballistic Missiles

 
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Even in Afghanistan, where shots fired at helicopters always come in the form of bullets or unguided rocket-propelled grenades, the safety of helicopters is an issue. In a recent Aviation Week article, U.S. Army Lt. Col. Ray Pickering, product manager for infrared countermeasures, said a CH-47 Chinook helicopter had been targeted by multiple antiaircraft missiles using infrared-seeking weapons. "If we lost a CH-47 a week for six weeks, the war would be over," he told the magazine. Other media outlets have quoted sources worried that more advanced, Russian-made missiles could be smuggled into Afghanistan, since similar missiles shot down coalition helicopters in Iraq.

Read more: Iran Missiles and American Apache Helicopters - Are Iran's New Anti-Helicopter Missiles A Real Threat to U.S. Apaches? - Popular Mechanics
[link to media.farsnews.com]

This is a pic of what Iran has a few years back (by themselves) and I'm pretty sure you are going to find a guidance system in there someplace.


Actually the link below might help in identifying what the news shows and the manufacturer might be able to be identified.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

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may Putin have recently sent Assad 1 gold gun. With one silver bullet.
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Why is Russia doing this? Are they trying to provoke world war 3? Idiotic.
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Anyway seriously, maybe they are all, you know, freaky freaky together... who knows cruise

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At least it wouldn't have a remote on the trigger controlled by Moscow, compared to ...... need I spell it out?
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Why is Russia doing this? Are they trying to provoke world war 3? Idiotic.
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$$$$
Short term military winfall when the crap NATO has doesn't work like the flyers say,then take the turrets off the tanks and but on dozer blades and go move 7 mountains in China over 20 years.
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More BS to rally the sheep. Syria bought these things in 2005.
Deliveries were made between 2009-2011. Eat it up. sheep
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How do you know? What is your source?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6543219


This is common knowledge lads. A simple google search with the words "Syria Iskander 2005" would help you find endless sources. Because of NATO reaction the 26 Iskander units that Syria has today couldn't be delivered before 2009-2011. Last delivery was made in December 2011.
 Quoting: insertfunnyusername


Here is a source backing you up:
[link to www.pakalertpress.com]

"Western diplomats said Assad’s military fired new missiles and other weapons acquired from Moscow in late 2011 during an exercise that took place on Dec. 20."
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More BS to rally the sheep. Syria bought these things in 2005.
Deliveries were made between 2009-2011. Eat it up. sheep
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How do you know? What is your source?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6543219


This is common knowledge lads. A simple google search with the words "Syria Iskander 2005" would help you find endless sources. Because of NATO reaction the 26 Iskander units that Syria has today couldn't be delivered before 2009-2011. Last delivery was made in December 2011.
 Quoting: insertfunnyusername


Here is a source backing you up:
[link to www.pakalertpress.com]

"Western diplomats said Assad’s military fired new missiles and other weapons acquired from Moscow in late 2011 during an exercise that took place on Dec. 20."
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Thnx. I'm pretty sure there are more news about this out there going years back. As i said i remember the story coz Greece was kinda involved and interested to buy these things, but we pulled out after the noise the export to Syria made. Then we learned that we're broke too, hehe.

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Why is Russia doing this? Are they trying to provoke world war 3? Idiotic.
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So sending pati. missiles initially is not provoking? You sound like a mother who's kid never does wrong.
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did you know that Iskandar is the eastern name Alexander the Great?
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I do. :)
Persian name for Alexander though.
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isn't it cool to name a missile to one of the greatest heroic legends (maybe not so heroic)??!!
I just don't get why Iran doesn't do that....they name them in Arabic
they don't name their domestic missiles (Cyrus, or Dariush, or Xerxes)
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It would be kinda inappropriate, considering the islamic revolution overthrew the shah. I doubt they want to make such obvious connections to that.
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but even the Ayatollahs are proud of their Persian heritage..but they like their neighboring Arabic heritage even more i guess....what a shame
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US has become the PURE EVIL in every sense of the word.
After Invading country after country, now its turn on Syria.
After Syria , comes Iran.

Syria will fall, and the winner will be the WRONG SIDE.
(EVANGELIA GUSTEROVA - BALKAN ORACLE).

This means that Syria will fall in the hands of US sponsored RADICAL ISLAMIST, SALAFIST, WHO BURN THEIR WIFE TO DEATH, WHO CUT HEADS OF OTHER PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT RELIGIONS. WHO WANT ISLAMIST KALIFAT, WHO WANT TO INVADE SPAIN, AND KILL CHRISTIANITY.

US is THE MOST SHAMEFUL NATION TODAY.

If I was an American, I would be ashamed of myself, what my government and in whose name is doing this.


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US has become the PURE EVIL in every sense of the word.
After Invading country after country, now its turn on Syria.
After Syria , comes Iran.

Syria will fall, and the winner will be the WRONG SIDE.
(EVANGELIA GUSTEROVA - BALKAN ORACLE).

This means that Syria will fall in the hands of US sponsored RADICAL ISLAMIST, SALAFIST, WHO BURN THEIR WIFE TO DEATH, WHO CUT HEADS OF OTHER PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT RELIGIONS. WHO WANT ISLAMIST KALIFAT, WHO WANT TO INVADE SPAIN, AND KILL CHRISTIANITY.

US is THE MOST SHAMEFUL NATION TODAY.

If I was an American, I would be ashamed of myself, what my government and in whose name is doing this.


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UUUUOOOOO I want to see spain burning xD
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"The superior Iskander can travel at hypersonic speed of over 1.3 miles per second (Mach 6-7) and has a range of over 280 miles with pinpoint accuracy of destroying targets with its 1,500-pound warhead, a nightmare for any missile defense system."

These stats are amazing!!!!
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Why is Russia doing this? Are they trying to provoke world war 3? Idiotic.
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Spoken like a true american...
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Why is Russia doing this? Are they trying to provoke world war 3? Idiotic.
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Spoken like a true american...
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lol i like it
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Why is Russia doing this? Are they trying to provoke world war 3? Idiotic.
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Russia defend allied. USA provokating WW3. All idiots live in USA and Israel.
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The ones against God live in Russia.
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The "Why is Russia doing this" comment is ABSOLUTELY the stupidest comment that I have ever read on this site.......PIN THIS for posterity!
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Russia has every right to send troops to aid their ally.


I hope they send well trained crews to man the missle launchers and train the Syrians.


Well done Russia.


It is the USA and ISrael that is provoking, funding terrorist and attempting to take over another country. Russia is being honorable. The US is not.
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Russia has every right to send troops to aid their ally.


I hope they send well trained crews to man the missle launchers and train the Syrians.


Well done Russia.


It is the USA and ISrael that is provoking, funding terrorist and attempting to take over another country. Russia is being honorable. The US is not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25028055


As usual (usual Suspects), when Russia can't win legitimately, they Cheat! "its par for the course.." Same as it always was..

As they have done with their Athletic Olympics Program!, U.N. Treaties. Remember "a Leopard never changes its spots!"

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Russia has every right to send troops to aid their ally.


I hope they send well trained crews to man the missle launchers and train the Syrians.


Well done Russia.


It is the USA and ISrael that is provoking, funding terrorist and attempting to take over another country. Russia is being honorable. The US is not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25028055


As usual (usual Suspects), when Russia can't win legitimately, they Cheat! "its par for the course.." Same as it always was..

As they have done with their Athletic Olympics Program!, U.N. Treaties. Remember "a Leopard never changes its spots!"

rant
 Quoting: Future Viewer


Russia is NOT at war with the USA. Nor is Syria.


In other words you are WRONG.


Syria is dealing with Domestic terorists, ( yes we all know they are US/Israel trained and funded) And Russia will be sending advisors.

Thats not cheating, US/ISrael funding and mercs are CHEATING to began with.

How can any defense of an ally be cheating when an aggressor nation is attempting to destroy them?
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Russia has every right to send troops to aid their ally.


I hope they send well trained crews to man the missle launchers and train the Syrians.


Well done Russia.


It is the USA and ISrael that is provoking, funding terrorist and attempting to take over another country. Russia is being honorable. The US is not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25028055


As usual (usual Suspects), when Russia can't win legitimately, they Cheat! "its par for the course.." Same as it always was..

As they have done with their Athletic Olympics Program!, U.N. Treaties. Remember "a Leopard never changes its spots!"

rant
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FOX, is that you bitch? yoda
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Iskander missiles
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damned that's far from what hamas has...Israel shall shit their pants lolsign
 Quoting: Zeff

Israel preparing to test new generation of Arrow anti-missile system
[link to www.haaretz.com] 12/4/2012
The new Arrow 3 system
 Quoting: [link to www.haaretz.com]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Arrow (Israeli missile)

Israel planning “Arrow Mark 4”
[link to www.militaryphotos.net] 6/6/2006
Found some interesting facts about the Arrow that are very relevant when it comes to the question of how it will face the Iskander.


The system is designed to work quickly and efficiently. As soon as Green Pine detects an incoming missile, the fire control center, called “Citron Tree,” launches its interceptor missile. The 23-foot long interceptor shoots toward the threat at nine times the speed of sound, and reaches a height of 30 miles in less than three minutes. Once it gets within two seconds of its target, Arrow’s optical detectors aims for the incoming missile’s warhead.

The interceptor’s own explosive warhead detonates within 40 to 50 yards of the missile, allowing Arrow to miss its target and still neutralize the threat. In this manner, Arrow differs from U.S. interceptors like the Patriot Advanced Capability-3 (PAC-3) and the Theater High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD), which rely on hit-to-kill technology in which the kinetic force of a precise impact causes the destruction of the threat.

Arrow’s speed and range (approximately 100 kilometers) allow it to intercept incoming missiles at a high enough altitude so that any nuclear, chemical, or biological weapons do not scatter over Israel’s cities and military targets. This high-speed, high-altitude intercept also gives Citron Tree enough time to launch a second interceptor in the event that the first one fails to destroy its target. The fire control center is capable of operating up to 14 interceptors at the same time.


[link to www.missilethreat.com]
 Quoting: [link to www.militaryphotos.net]

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you compare a bullet to an arrow...seriously...israel technology is bullshit compared to russia's.

Paper Dome is an example...and that was only weak rockets...
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damned that's far from what hamas has...Israel shall shit their pants lolsign
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Are you so narrow-minded that you can't see the big picture here ?

If Israel gets hit with one of those things, World War III starts !
 Quoting: subzero86

and so what ? it's all staged by zionists...how the hell you think israel will expand its borders to euphrate otherwise...
got troubles to use your brain
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Do you think the mighty mother Russia would escape unscathed from this !?
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israel is a bird shit compared to mother russia.

if they were to be in war , israel would be fucked up in 1 min without help of Nato.
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Yeah if Israel gets hit with one of those, they might decide Moscow deserves a nuke.
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Yea Russia hope they take out UK...
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11705783


damned that's far from what hamas has...Israel shall shit their pants lolsign
 Quoting: Zeff

Israel preparing to test new generation of Arrow anti-missile system
[link to www.haaretz.com] 12/4/2012
The new Arrow 3 system
 Quoting: [link to www.haaretz.com]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Arrow (Israeli missile)

Israel planning “Arrow Mark 4”
[link to www.militaryphotos.net] 6/6/2006
Found some interesting facts about the Arrow that are very relevant when it comes to the question of how it will face the Iskander.


The system is designed to work quickly and efficiently. As soon as Green Pine detects an incoming missile, the fire control center, called “Citron Tree,” launches its interceptor missile. The 23-foot long interceptor shoots toward the threat at nine times the speed of sound, and reaches a height of 30 miles in less than three minutes. Once it gets within two seconds of its target, Arrow’s optical detectors aims for the incoming missile’s warhead.

The interceptor’s own explosive warhead detonates within 40 to 50 yards of the missile, allowing Arrow to miss its target and still neutralize the threat. In this manner, Arrow differs from U.S. interceptors like the Patriot Advanced Capability-3 (PAC-3) and the Theater High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD), which rely on hit-to-kill technology in which the kinetic force of a precise impact causes the destruction of the threat.

Arrow’s speed and range (approximately 100 kilometers) allow it to intercept incoming missiles at a high enough altitude so that any nuclear, chemical, or biological weapons do not scatter over Israel’s cities and military targets. This high-speed, high-altitude intercept also gives Citron Tree enough time to launch a second interceptor in the event that the first one fails to destroy its target. The fire control center is capable of operating up to 14 interceptors at the same time.


[link to www.missilethreat.com]
 Quoting: [link to www.militaryphotos.net]

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11705783


you compare a bullet to an arrow...seriously...israel technology is bullshit compared to russia's.

Paper Dome is an example...and that was only weak rockets...
 Quoting: Zeff


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Forgetting one thing, much Technology was smuggled out of Russia and Israel knows all weaknesses of Russian Missiles. There's a Israeli Team, of over 1600 Engineers, that have reversed Engineered many latest up-to-date Russian Missiles for Weakness and Strengths. Every Weakness of Russian Missiles noted!

The Russian Missiles are also prone to EMP weaknesses, at certain spots of Missile..

Its not going to be a pretty picture with Russian Technicians manning Syrian Missiles and much Russian Personal will be taken out from early stages of War!

Russia will protest, but nothing Russia can do, its violating 1 of the biggest U.N. Treaties of foreigners manning Weapons in another Country (Syria)..

And so it begins..

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I'm with the Russian guy....Israel is birdshit!