I am a catholic apologist... ask me a question

Its not a free pass to sin... Friend, i am a mere Human who is trying to find his place in this cruel world. I try to bring Happiness to each person i meet. In my eyes I am the worst sinner. Because Jesus is PERFECT and I mere man.

I have always prayed to GOD in The name of Jesus Christ and He hears my prayers. I have witnessed His Mighty hand in my life. I have never prayed to Mary.

When someone Strikes me in my face, i turn my cheek and tell them to hit my other one. Just like Jesus did.

Ecekiel

It's an experience as well as scripture


In the Bible

Unless you ask for forgiveness of your sins He does not hear your words.

Jesus said you must be born again to enter the kingdom of heaven.

Accepting what Jesus Christ did on the Cross and the price he paid for us .

When you say that prayer you acknowledge what Jesus Christ did for you. You accept the gift of salvation as well as accepting him as your savior. Your asking him to be born again. You humbling yourself before God and asking forgiveness of your sins that he may hear you.

That is the sinners prayer

Father I come before you in the name of your son Jesus Christ to ask you for forgiveness for all my sins. Jesus I accept the gift of salvation as well as you being my savior please come into my heart that I may be born again in Jesus Christ name I pray.

Hi,

But...the Bible does not interpret itself. You need an
authority.

The excuse, eror, believing God the Holy Spirit guides each person into their private interpretation of Scripture. This is not true.

God is never the author of confusion, a house divided falls.
There is no unity of belief on what Scripture means in
Protestantism. It's heresy, look at the fruit of private interpretation of Scripture. Division and error.

The only authority to interpret Scripture was given to the Church by God. It fits, the RCC compiled Scripture.

Read the footnotes of the Douay-Rheims Bible. They will help you with tough verses and help you understand why the Church teaches what she does.

[link to www.drbo.org]

blessings,

Yeah but Marry was just another sinner who needed to believe in Christ to be saved. Also remember when they came to Jesus and they told them your mother and your bother are looking for you. What did Jesus said? Also saying the marry is a virgin would be a lie since the bible says that she pretty much had sex with her husband and had more children besides Jesus. And to call her holy mother would be a blasphemy since only God is the holy or holies. There no biblical evidence and support of such teaching that you claim about marry shes just another sinner.

Amen

Why did Jesus want to do this?

Yes, I realize but you can do both. Mary is a powerful
intercessor.

We are intercessors when we pray to God for family and loved
ones. See how it all fits? We're one big family, God
answers our prayers and the saints in Heaven...all in His
Will.

according to the bible you are wrong all i need to do is to have faith in Christ to be saved and nothing else. I do not have to say such prayer. All is require is to believe in him with all your heart and declare that he is Lord. You teach another heresy with a prayer no one will get save.

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Man typically has two reactions to a conflict. Fight or flight. Jesus gave us an alternative in the facing such a conflict. To stand strong and not to return the blow.

Last Edited by Monkey Breath on 12/09/2012 04:01 AM

It's not hate. It is THIS:

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them." Ephesians 5:11

Is it reasonable to assume that the Mother of Harlots would be the worlds largest source of Charity and produce such people as Mother Teresa of Calcutta?

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Thank you monkey brain.. The question was directed to the OP.

I do however, appreciate your input.

Proof that Roman Catholicism is witchcraft-

Doc Marquee has written a book, which is being published by American Focus Publishing Company, entitled "Secrets of the Illuminati". While this topic has been explored before, no author has been able to bring a truly occultic angle to the discussion. In other words, Marquee looks at the plan to bring in the New World Order from the viewpoint of a former witch. In his book, Marquee includes a chapter entitled, "Is It Catholicism Or Witchcraft?" At the beginning of this chapter, Marquee makes a quite startling statement, "I must emphatically state that Catholicism and witchcraft are one and the same...there is no difference between witchcraft and Catholicism." Then, Marquee examines Catholicism and witchcraft from the vantage point of a former witch.

Marquee identifies several critically important areas in which the practice of Roman Catholicism and witchcraft are identical. We will first list these areas of commonalty and then comment specifically upon them. These common areas are:

The altar

The golden goblet known as a chalice.

Colored candles used in services

The use of incense.

The use of bells in the ceremony.

Praying to statues.

The use of Latin in services.

The use of a golden scepter in giving a large blessing to the people.

Common belief in Purgatory

The common belief in the host.

Common belief in the five elements.


Now, let us examine each of these areas of commonalty:

1. The altar in every Catholic church is prominently positioned at the front of the church. The "Mysteries of the Mass" are celebrated on and around the altar. In witchcraft, also, the altar is similarly used for three purposes:

To practice certain metaphysical rites, such as the casting of certain spells or to honor occult deities.

To hold the tools of magic.

To perform human sacrifice.

The Roman Catholic altar also holds their tools of their magic, and they daily perform human sacrifice. Remember, we are looking at this subject through the eyes of a former high-level witch who is now a born-again Christian. This daily human sacrifice is performed according to the false belief in "transubstantiation", the belief that the priest magically transforms the wafer into Jesus' body and the wine into His blood. Marquee states, "In other words, every day Christ is being reincarnated and then sacrificed.. they perform daily their human sacrifice in which Christ is ...sacrificed for their sins." It is shocking to realize that the Roman Catholics are daily performing human sacrifice in a manner similar to that of witches throughout the centuries.

2. The Catholic Golden Goblet, or Chalice. "It is this cup that the wine poured into it becomes the...literal blood of Christ. When a witch does a human sacrifice, after the victim's throat is sliced open, the spilled blood will be collected in a chalice, just as the Catholics do, except the witch's chalice holds the real thing." In Satan's eyes, the Catholics are performing the same rite as the witches.

3. "Candles were introduced to the Catholic mass about 320 A.D. There is no Scriptural reasons for them, unless... you are a practicing witch. Below is a list of different colored candles a witch would use throughout the year. See if you can recall any of these colors used during a Catholic mass:
White -- Purity, Truth, Sincerity
Red -- Strength, Health, Vigor, Sexual Love
Light Blue -- Tranquillity, Understanding, Patience
Dark Blue -- Impulsiveness, Depression, Change
Green -- Finance, Fertility, Luck
Gold/Yellow -- Persuasion, Charm, Confidence
Brown -- Hesitation, Uncertainty
Pink -- Honor, Love, Morality
Black -- Evil, Loss, Discord, Confusion
Purple -- Tension, Ambition, Power
Silver-Gray -- Cancellation, Stalemate
Orange -- Encouragement, Stimulation
Greenish-Yellow -- Sickness, Anger, Jealousy
"Using these colored candles and the right spells, a witch can cause anything to happen...our Catholic friends are not only using these occult tools, they also pay for them when they go to various statues and light...candles."

4. "Incense is a constant tool that is used by priests. They will take a philter (incense burner), walk around the altar, and then wave it out toward the crowd with an invocation...Not only do witches use incense, but they will consecrate their altar and their fellow witches in the exact way the Catholics do..."

5. Bells are also utilized by both Roman Catholics and witches. The bells are actually baptized, and in both witchcraft and Catholicism, altar boys attend the priest in sounding the bells.

6. Witches were praying to images or statues for many centuries before Catholics began the practice.

7. "Until recently, most of the rites of witchcraft were said in Latin...why is it, when the witches stopped using Latin as much as they did, about twenty years ago, that the Catholic mass was stopped being told in Latin? Today, it is spoken mostly in American English, the same way in which a witch's mass is held."

8. "...when the Pope, Cardinals, or priests want to give a huge blessing, they will take out a golden scepter, or wand, dip it in holy water, and then wave it on the people...wands are nothing new in the occult. When a witch wants to direct his power he can do it by means of wands." He can also control the demonic forces at his disposal by using a wand to consecrate a circle with a pentacle inside. Holy water is also used by a witch to purify himself and his instruments, and the water is made holy in both witchcraft and Catholicism by mixing water with salt.

9. The teaching of Purgatory is not found in the Bible. According to Catholic catechism, Purgatory is described as "a logically deduced place. Since a Catholic could not go straight to heaven if he had sinned, and since he could not go to hell if he had not died in mortal sin, there had to be a place in between where he could be purified" --

Purgatory. However, the belief in Purgatory is "totally occultic in origin". Witchcraft teaches that after a person goes through Purgatory, he is reincarnated and is more powerful in his next life than he was before. After several reincarnations, he will become purified enough to live with the gods and goddesses, precisely the same end as the Catholics teach.

10. Both Catholics and Witches teach that the host becomes the actual body of their respective gods. To the Roman Catholic, the host becomes the actual body of Jesus Christ; the witch believes the host actually becomes the body of their pagan deity, " I.H.S. -- or Iris, Horus, and Semiramis". This concept is known in both circles as transsubstantiation.

11. Both witchcraft and Roman Catholicism teach that the universe is comprised of five elements: Spirit, Water, Air, Fire, and Earth. These occultic five elements are also found in the Catholic mass.

Spirit -- of the wafer god they sacrifice daily.
Water -- Holy water they use to purify and baptize
Air -- symbolically used through the incense
Fire -- used in tangent with the incense burning
Earth -- The elements of the wafer come from the earth in agriculture, and the flesh of their sacrificed deity, Jesus Christ, also came from the earth.

Doc Marquee's conclusion is inescapable and damning: The practice of occultism has come full circle from ancient Babylon to the Roman Catholic Institution today. As Jesus counseled in Revelation 18:4, "Come out of her, my people, that you do not participate in her sins, neither in her plagues".

WHY?

It is love that will conquer all.

Monkey Breath, thanks,

It will be something, look how in love our brothers and sisters in Christ are with the written Word! Imagine what they will do when Christ shows them all of the plan during the Great Warning (Rev 6:15-17).

Welcome friend, Good luck here. It is very hard to explain things to those who do not want to listen to historical truth and really study the scripture. Good to have you on board!!

Ecekiel

You know what's funny I use to believe the same thing you do. Because i believed he is the Son of God. But there is so much more to it then just believing. All I'm gonna say is be baptised by fire through the holy spirit. Remember that what he speaks in scripture is spirit.

"For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works." 2nd Corinthian 11:13-15


I'm guess that you had absolutely NO interest in reading the link that the other poster gave you, regarding whether Mother Theresa was a real (and saved) Christian, or not.

No doubt though, that she was a real Catholic.

I notice that you do not investigate anything that conflicts with your agenda. Why is that?

Please go back and read the bible. Those items are found throughout, including the Book of Revelation.

One other point, i do know that the Satanist copy the Mass in an ugly profane way, as a form mocking the Church. This maybe where the confusion comes from.

When do you think that will happen and, why don't you think some people have not all-ready been shown it?

thnx

well believe as you wish. I should not argue with you no more over such matters. The bible is clear about the only way to be saved and thats it.

You sound like you are a pentecostal... and im not going to go there if you are one.

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Friend, it is satan who perverts and twists all these things. He is the total opposite of God and everything He uses for His purposes.
Matter of fact; the "black" mass is the total oppisite of the Catholic Mass, wonder why???

'Christian' is a very loose term in our modern times.

The veil was torn.

Does anyone know what this means?

This means that you do not need anyone to make intercession for you other than Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ has already done it.

Do you believe it? Do you accept it?

There is only one intercessor between GOD and man and that is The Lord Jesus Christ our Savior.

And there isn't any Savior without GOD.

Did any of you realize that the "only religion" that pleases the Father is those who look after orphans and widows in distress and to keep oneself from being polluted from the world?

Love GOD The Father with all of your heart, soul, strength and understanding.

The other is just like it....

The love your neighbor as yourself.

And do not forget what He told His Disciples before He went back to The Father.

Love each other as I have loved you.

It's so easy to talk about the 'millions' the Church has killed, but that's dubious and I would love to see a scholarly research article which could validate that claim. Even the Crusades began as an effort to protect pilgrims from Islamic marauders, highwayman, and deviants on their journalese to Jerusalem. Corruption and war corrupts, and it didn't stop there.

Has the Church made mistakes? No it hasn't, but the people in the Church have. Apologies have been offered, and the Church has repented, so will you forgive us?

The fact of the matter that people refuse to even consider, because their minds are set and convoluted by the propaganda in popular culture, or because they are part of the conspiracy to bring about a trans humanist sexular order, is that the Church has done more good than any other institution in the history of the world, it is unbridled science and secularism which has been the cause of millions of deaths of INNOCENT civilians and untold damage to the Earth which we were entrusted as stewards to. Guess what: they've done it with your tax dollars too, and with your express consent!

How many divisions in the body of Christ since the protestant "reformation"(was it a reformation or a schism)? Thousands? A thing can be judged by its fruits. No wonder the world is in such darkness, even the members of His Body have been divided against themselves, yet the Church remains. We need to join together in Christian solidarity and be of like mind in love, light, and purpose.

You want to mention the child abuse and the evil that is committed by the 'Church' but the reality of the situation is that there are diabolical organizations of satanists, gnostic, and other devious groups which have interpolated into the masses in an attempt to discredit the Church by subterfuge and evil. The Church doesn't molest children, but I know at least one group that loves to, and then they blame others that don't acquiesce of the very same sort of perversion and wickedness that they practice and plot in their hearts. I just want those involved to know that your works have not escaped my gaze. Nevertheless the gates of hell shall not prevail against His Church. As it is written so it shall come to pass.

OP I would recommend shaking the dust off your feet and leaving this thread. They have it figured out.

The rock is Jesus Christ. Not Peter.

"be perfect as 'I AM' perfect"!