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I am a catholic apologist... ask me a question

 
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It's so easy to talk about the 'millions' the Church has killed, but that's dubious and I would love to see a scholarly research article which could validate that claim. Even the Crusades began as an effort to protect pilgrims from Islamic marauders, highwayman, and deviants on their journalese to Jerusalem. Corruption and war corrupts, and it didn't stop there.

Has the Church made mistakes? No it hasn't, but the people in the Church have. Apologies have been offered, and the Church has repented, so will you forgive us?

The fact of the matter that people refuse to even consider, because their minds are set and convoluted by the propaganda in popular culture, or because they are part of the conspiracy to bring about a trans humanist sexular order, is that the Church has done more good than any other institution in the history of the world, it is unbridled science and secularism which has been the cause of millions of deaths of INNOCENT civilians and untold damage to the Earth which we were entrusted as stewards to. Guess what: they've done it with your tax dollars too, and with your express consent!

How many divisions in the body of Christ since the protestant "reformation"(was it a reformation or a schism)? Thousands? A thing can be judged by its fruits. No wonder the world is in such darkness, even the members of His Body have been divided against themselves, yet the Church remains. We need to join together in Christian solidarity and be of like mind in love, light, and purpose.

You want to mention the child abuse and the evil that is committed by the 'Church' but the reality of the situation is that there are diabolical organizations of satanists, gnostic, and other devious groups which have interpolated into the masses in an attempt to discredit the Church by subterfuge and evil. The Church doesn't molest children, but I know at least one group that loves to, and then they blame others that don't acquiesce of the very same sort of perversion and wickedness that they practice and plot in their hearts. I just want those involved to know that your works have not escaped my gaze. Nevertheless the gates of hell shall not prevail against His Church. As it is written so it shall come to pass.

OP I would recommend shaking the dust off your feet and leaving this thread. They have it figured out.
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Upon this Rock I will build my Church and the Gates of Hell well not prevail against it!
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I led my life astray many years ago, and found peace and love with my return to the One Holy Catholic Apostolic church.. Ask me a Question
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So... How do you feel about the MILLIONS of abominations committed by your "church".

How do you feel about your "church" murdering between 100-200 MILLION people?

How do you feel about any "church" that would torture people to near death, only to allow them to recover, so that they could be tortured again, and then burned at the stake?

How do you feel about that... Ace?

How do you thing GOD feels about it?
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He who has not sinned cast the 1st stone. Wars have waged forever. Catholics have been genocided, so have jews, serbs, white, black, asian, african, indian etc... The church is Not Perfect. But the Rock stands forever. Without Catholicism there IS No Christianity
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Welcome friend, Good luck here. It is very hard to explain things to those who do not want to listen to historical truth and really study the scripture. Good to have you on board!!
 Quoting: Angel Helper



Truth is simply not welcome in Satan's habitation, which the Roman church CLEARLY is. In fact, countless people were tortured and burned at the stake for merely questioning the official dogmas of the church, and for owning just a tiny scrap of scripture, let alone a complete bible. It was up the the "priest" to TELL you what the scriptures say.

How utterly convenient.
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There are instigators and energy vampires on this thread OP. I will pray hard for them this night that they come to repentance and to a sincere thirst for truth, righteous, and saving knowledge of God through Jesus Christ. Again I would suggest you cast not pearls before swine, for they will trample them, and then turn and attack you.
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The Bride is The Church not the rock.
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It's so easy to talk about the 'millions' the Church has killed, but that's dubious and I would love to see a scholarly research article which could validate that claim. Even the Crusades began as an effort to protect pilgrims from Islamic marauders, highwayman, and deviants on their journalese to Jerusalem. Corruption and war corrupts, and it didn't stop there.

Has the Church made mistakes? No it hasn't, but the people in the Church have. Apologies have been offered, and the Church has repented, so will you forgive us?

The fact of the matter that people refuse to even consider, because their minds are set and convoluted by the propaganda in popular culture, or because they are part of the conspiracy to bring about a trans humanist sexular order, is that the Church has done more good than any other institution in the history of the world, it is unbridled science and secularism which has been the cause of millions of deaths of INNOCENT civilians and untold damage to the Earth which we were entrusted as stewards to. Guess what: they've done it with your tax dollars too, and with your express consent!

How many divisions in the body of Christ since the protestant "reformation"(was it a reformation or a schism)? Thousands? A thing can be judged by its fruits. No wonder the world is in such darkness, even the members of His Body have been divided against themselves, yet the Church remains. We need to join together in Christian solidarity and be of like mind in love, light, and purpose.

You want to mention the child abuse and the evil that is committed by the 'Church' but the reality of the situation is that there are diabolical organizations of satanists, gnostic, and other devious groups which have interpolated into the masses in an attempt to discredit the Church by subterfuge and evil. The Church doesn't molest children, but I know at least one group that loves to, and then they blame others that don't acquiesce of the very same sort of perversion and wickedness that they practice and plot in their hearts. I just want those involved to know that your works have not escaped my gaze. Nevertheless the gates of hell shall not prevail against His Church. As it is written so it shall come to pass.

OP I would recommend shaking the dust off your feet and leaving this thread. They have it figured out.
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Upon this Rock I will build my Church and the Gates of Hell well not prevail against it!
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monkey Brain.... Mind open and heart closed!

Godspeed! Bless.
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So... How do you feel about the MILLIONS of abominations committed by your "church".

How do you feel about your "church" murdering between 100-200 MILLION people?

How do you feel about any "church" that would torture people to near death, only to allow them to recover, so that they could be tortured again, and then burned at the stake?

How do you feel about that... Ace?

How do you thing GOD feels about it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 610248


He who has not sinned cast the 1st stone. Wars have waged forever. Catholics have been genocided, so have jews, serbs, white, black, asian, african, indian etc... The church is Not Perfect. But the Rock stands forever. Without Catholicism there IS No Christianity
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Welcome friend, Good luck here. It is very hard to explain things to those who do not want to listen to historical truth and really study the scripture. Good to have you on board!!
 Quoting: Angel Helper



Truth is simply not welcome in Satan's habitation, which the Roman church CLEARLY is. In fact, countless people were tortured and burned at the stake for merely questioning the official dogmas of the church, and for owning just a tiny scrap of scripture, let alone a complete bible. It was up the the "priest" to TELL you what the scriptures say.

How utterly convenient.
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Give us a historical person, so we can discuss the matter.
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It's so easy to talk about the 'millions' the Church has killed, but that's dubious and I would love to see a scholarly research article which could validate that claim. Even the Crusades began as an effort to protect pilgrims from Islamic marauders, highwayman, and deviants on their journalese to Jerusalem. Corruption and war corrupts, and it didn't stop there.

Has the Church made mistakes? No it hasn't, but the people in the Church have. Apologies have been offered, and the Church has repented, so will you forgive us?

The fact of the matter that people refuse to even consider, because their minds are set and convoluted by the propaganda in popular culture, or because they are part of the conspiracy to bring about a trans humanist sexular order, is that the Church has done more good than any other institution in the history of the world, it is unbridled science and secularism which has been the cause of millions of deaths of INNOCENT civilians and untold damage to the Earth which we were entrusted as stewards to. Guess what: they've done it with your tax dollars too, and with your express consent!

How many divisions in the body of Christ since the protestant "reformation"(was it a reformation or a schism)? Thousands? A thing can be judged by its fruits. No wonder the world is in such darkness, even the members of His Body have been divided against themselves, yet the Church remains. We need to join together in Christian solidarity and be of like mind in love, light, and purpose.

You want to mention the child abuse and the evil that is committed by the 'Church' but the reality of the situation is that there are diabolical organizations of satanists, gnostic, and other devious groups which have interpolated into the masses in an attempt to discredit the Church by subterfuge and evil. The Church doesn't molest children, but I know at least one group that loves to, and then they blame others that don't acquiesce of the very same sort of perversion and wickedness that they practice and plot in their hearts. I just want those involved to know that your works have not escaped my gaze. Nevertheless the gates of hell shall not prevail against His Church. As it is written so it shall come to pass.

OP I would recommend shaking the dust off your feet and leaving this thread. They have it figured out.
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Upon this Rock I will build my Church and the Gates of Hell well not prevail against it!
 Quoting: Monkey Breath




Ahh yes... There's Mister "I'm not a Catholic" quoting the most commonly cited (and misused) verse in the bible, by Roman Catholics.

You DO realize by now, that everyone on this thread knows that you have exposed yourself as a liar... Right?
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He who has not sinned cast the 1st stone. Wars have waged forever. Catholics have been genocided, so have jews, serbs, white, black, asian, african, indian etc... The church is Not Perfect. But the Rock stands forever. Without Catholicism there IS No Christianity
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24484272


Welcome friend, Good luck here. It is very hard to explain things to those who do not want to listen to historical truth and really study the scripture. Good to have you on board!!
 Quoting: Angel Helper



Truth is simply not welcome in Satan's habitation, which the Roman church CLEARLY is. In fact, countless people were tortured and burned at the stake for merely questioning the official dogmas of the church, and for owning just a tiny scrap of scripture, let alone a complete bible. It was up the the "priest" to TELL you what the scriptures say.

How utterly convenient.
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Give us a historical person, so we can discuss the matter.
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Here ya go, deceiver!

Discuss away!

[link to www.google.com]
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Welcome friend, Good luck here. It is very hard to explain things to those who do not want to listen to historical truth and really study the scripture. Good to have you on board!!
 Quoting: Angel Helper



Truth is simply not welcome in Satan's habitation, which the Roman church CLEARLY is. In fact, countless people were tortured and burned at the stake for merely questioning the official dogmas of the church, and for owning just a tiny scrap of scripture, let alone a complete bible. It was up the the "priest" to TELL you what the scriptures say.

How utterly convenient.
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Give us a historical person, so we can discuss the matter.
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Here ya go, deceiver!

Discuss away!

[link to www.google.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29396264


50 MILLION hits on Google... lol.
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It's so easy to talk about the 'millions' the Church has killed, but that's dubious and I would love to see a scholarly research article which could validate that claim. Even the Crusades began as an effort to protect pilgrims from Islamic marauders, highwayman, and deviants on their journalese to Jerusalem. Corruption and war corrupts, and it didn't stop there.

Has the Church made mistakes? No it hasn't, but the people in the Church have. Apologies have been offered, and the Church has repented, so will you forgive us?

The fact of the matter that people refuse to even consider, because their minds are set and convoluted by the propaganda in popular culture, or because they are part of the conspiracy to bring about a trans humanist sexular order, is that the Church has done more good than any other institution in the history of the world, it is unbridled science and secularism which has been the cause of millions of deaths of INNOCENT civilians and untold damage to the Earth which we were entrusted as stewards to. Guess what: they've done it with your tax dollars too, and with your express consent!

How many divisions in the body of Christ since the protestant "reformation"(was it a reformation or a schism)? Thousands? A thing can be judged by its fruits. No wonder the world is in such darkness, even the members of His Body have been divided against themselves, yet the Church remains. We need to join together in Christian solidarity and be of like mind in love, light, and purpose.

You want to mention the child abuse and the evil that is committed by the 'Church' but the reality of the situation is that there are diabolical organizations of satanists, gnostic, and other devious groups which have interpolated into the masses in an attempt to discredit the Church by subterfuge and evil. The Church doesn't molest children, but I know at least one group that loves to, and then they blame others that don't acquiesce of the very same sort of perversion and wickedness that they practice and plot in their hearts. I just want those involved to know that your works have not escaped my gaze. Nevertheless the gates of hell shall not prevail against His Church. As it is written so it shall come to pass.

OP I would recommend shaking the dust off your feet and leaving this thread. They have it figured out.
 Quoting: PEER 21008556


Upon this Rock I will build my Church and the Gates of Hell well not prevail against it!
 Quoting: Monkey Breath




Ahh yes... There's Mister "I'm not a Catholic" quoting the most commonly cited (and misused) verse in the bible, by Roman Catholics.

You DO realize by now, that everyone on this thread knows that you have exposed yourself as a liar... Right?
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@ Monkey Breath? Would you care to expand upon what you mean?
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It's so easy to talk about the 'millions' the Church has killed, but that's dubious and I would love to see a scholarly research article which could validate that claim. Even the Crusades began as an effort to protect pilgrims from Islamic marauders, highwayman, and deviants on their journalese to Jerusalem. Corruption and war corrupts, and it didn't stop there.

Has the Church made mistakes? No it hasn't, but the people in the Church have. Apologies have been offered, and the Church has repented, so will you forgive us?

The fact of the matter that people refuse to even consider, because their minds are set and convoluted by the propaganda in popular culture, or because they are part of the conspiracy to bring about a trans humanist sexular order, is that the Church has done more good than any other institution in the history of the world, it is unbridled science and secularism which has been the cause of millions of deaths of INNOCENT civilians and untold damage to the Earth which we were entrusted as stewards to. Guess what: they've done it with your tax dollars too, and with your express consent!

How many divisions in the body of Christ since the protestant "reformation"(was it a reformation or a schism)? Thousands? A thing can be judged by its fruits. No wonder the world is in such darkness, even the members of His Body have been divided against themselves, yet the Church remains. We need to join together in Christian solidarity and be of like mind in love, light, and purpose.

You want to mention the child abuse and the evil that is committed by the 'Church' but the reality of the situation is that there are diabolical organizations of satanists, gnostic, and other devious groups which have interpolated into the masses in an attempt to discredit the Church by subterfuge and evil. The Church doesn't molest children, but I know at least one group that loves to, and then they blame others that don't acquiesce of the very same sort of perversion and wickedness that they practice and plot in their hearts. I just want those involved to know that your works have not escaped my gaze. Nevertheless the gates of hell shall not prevail against His Church. As it is written so it shall come to pass.

OP I would recommend shaking the dust off your feet and leaving this thread. They have it figured out.
 Quoting: PEER 21008556


Upon this Rock I will build my Church and the Gates of Hell well not prevail against it!
 Quoting: Monkey Breath


monkey Brain.... Mind open and heart closed!

Godspeed! Bless.
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Sounds just like Satan.

Open mind (open to any and all evil)...

And... Closed heart
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It's late. You are tired, and you have taken quite a beating, by the truth.

Go to bed, but before you go to sleep, ask God to forgive you, for defending the most murderous and diabolical institution that has ever existed on this earth.

TRULY, the MOTHER of harlots.
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Hate and more hate, it comes from ignorance of the truth.
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It's not hate. It is THIS:

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them." Ephesians 5:11
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Is it reasonable to assume that the Mother of Harlots would be the worlds largest source of Charity and produce such people as Mother Teresa of Calcutta?
 Quoting: Monkey Breath


YES

Here is Mother Teresa in her own words

For 50 years she doubted that God even exist

Where is my faith? Even deep down ... there is nothing but emptiness and darkness ... If there be God—please forgive me. When I try to raise my thoughts to Heaven, there is such convicting emptiness that those very thoughts return like sharp knives and hurt my very soul ... How painful is this unknown pain—I have no Faith. Repulsed, empty, no faith, no love, no zeal, ... What do I labor for? If there be no God, there can be no soul. If there be no soul then, Jesus, You also are not true.


But without faith it is impossible to please Him: for he that comes to ELOHIYM must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him. Hebrews 11:6


Does Wonderful works save us

Many will say to me in that day, Adonay, Adonay, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from Me,


From her own writings, it doesn't appear that she knew Him
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It's so easy to talk about the 'millions' the Church has killed, but that's dubious and I would love to see a scholarly research article which could validate that claim. Even the Crusades began as an effort to protect pilgrims from Islamic marauders, highwayman, and deviants on their journalese to Jerusalem. Corruption and war corrupts, and it didn't stop there.

Has the Church made mistakes? No it hasn't, but the people in the Church have. Apologies have been offered, and the Church has repented, so will you forgive us?

The fact of the matter that people refuse to even consider, because their minds are set and convoluted by the propaganda in popular culture, or because they are part of the conspiracy to bring about a trans humanist sexular order, is that the Church has done more good than any other institution in the history of the world, it is unbridled science and secularism which has been the cause of millions of deaths of INNOCENT civilians and untold damage to the Earth which we were entrusted as stewards to. Guess what: they've done it with your tax dollars too, and with your express consent!

How many divisions in the body of Christ since the protestant "reformation"(was it a reformation or a schism)? Thousands? A thing can be judged by its fruits. No wonder the world is in such darkness, even the members of His Body have been divided against themselves, yet the Church remains. We need to join together in Christian solidarity and be of like mind in love, light, and purpose.

You want to mention the child abuse and the evil that is committed by the 'Church' but the reality of the situation is that there are diabolical organizations of satanists, gnostic, and other devious groups which have interpolated into the masses in an attempt to discredit the Church by subterfuge and evil. The Church doesn't molest children, but I know at least one group that loves to, and then they blame others that don't acquiesce of the very same sort of perversion and wickedness that they practice and plot in their hearts. I just want those involved to know that your works have not escaped my gaze. Nevertheless the gates of hell shall not prevail against His Church. As it is written so it shall come to pass.

OP I would recommend shaking the dust off your feet and leaving this thread. They have it figured out.
 Quoting: PEER 21008556


Upon this Rock I will build my Church and the Gates of Hell well not prevail against it!
 Quoting: Monkey Breath




Ahh yes... There's Mister "I'm not a Catholic" quoting the most commonly cited (and misused) verse in the bible, by Roman Catholics.

You DO realize by now, that everyone on this thread knows that you have exposed yourself as a liar... Right?
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@ Monkey Breath? Would you care to expand upon what you mean?
 Quoting: PEER 21008556




No problem...

Another poster on this thread called out Monkey Breath, after he CLAIMED that he "is not a Catholic", but proceeded to start a full scale war, defending the Catholic church, and citing all of their favorite misused passages, and erroneous beliefs.

Monkey Breath IS a Catholic. And has not even denied it, since he was called on it.

He pretended NOT to be, hoping that this would give him more credibility, and the APPEARANCE of just being an "unbiased" commentator.

If you want to see the full context of what I am saying, just go back and READ the last few pages of this thread.
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After a 70 year captivity, the religious leaders of Israel became Babylonian in their teachings and in their minds. [Ezekiel-blasphemy in the temple..the glory departed] When Christ came carnal Israelites were "the lost sheep of Israel."

"It was necessary that God's Word should first have been spoken to thee, but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles."

Later, to undo the good work of Paul in Rome, a counterfeit Christianity is created. By secretly creating and controlled it, the enemy of Christ could besmirch the name of Jesus throughout the centuries while placing the blame on "Christians" (ie crusades, inquisitions, persecutions and witchhunts)

Babylon, not Catholicism, is the actual "mother of Harlots"..it's Cabala is the usually the contamination into other beliefs. When Hislop exposed Catholicism as Babylonian, he didn't know that post-captivity Judaism was, and is, in fact, the old religion of Babylon with a few twists.

So mystery Babylon uses the so-called opposition to torture true Christians even as it sends other people's children on crusades to kill Muslims. Then, in the 1800's bring in a rapture myth creaed by a Scottish cult that's based fully on "Jews" being the chosen people, (somebody must repent after the "protestants" float off.) Babylonic infiltration and control secures the Protestants. (the "new" lost sheep of Israel)

The only "Simon Peter" in ancient Rome was Simon the sorcerer..father of gnosticism and chief sorcerer to Nero. He was known in Rome as Father Simon or in Latin, Simon "Pater".

"and the vessel was marred in His hand, so He remade it"
Christ remade Israel into a spiritual nation of born again believers. No substitution. No church with a capital C.
All Israel shall be saved...add to that these words.."IT IS FINISHED"..will you diminished the work of Christ when He Said "I have lost none"

Will you replace Christ as the scripturally revealed seed of Abraham. Will you repeat the sin of Esau by ceding your birthright to the physical race of Jewish unbelievers

Didn't you know?
The covenant of Moses had been declared by all almost all the OT prophets to be annulled. The Abrahamic covenant, however, would stand.(for God made it with Himself-Abraham was asleep.) David knew, by Levitical law, that he stood condemned for sending Uriah to his death. He appealed to the covenant of Abraham. This covenant then reaches from Abraham to King David to Jesus Christ..and right to the born again believers..it is this spiritual nation which is the real Israel of God

He who is a Jew is one inwardly was what Paul taught. The Lord Jesus Himself said to a Jewish teacher of the law.."Ye must be born again". There are no Jews and Gentiles in the kingdom and it is not lineage, skin color. or anything physical that important to God...

it's the heart that must be circumcised.
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The veil was torn.

Does anyone know what this means?

This means that you do not need anyone to make intercession for you other than Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ has already done it.

Do you believe it? Do you accept it?

There is only one intercessor between GOD and man and that is The Lord Jesus Christ our Savior.

And there isn't any Savior without GOD.

Did any of you realize that the "only religion" that pleases the Father is those who look after orphans and widows in distress and to keep oneself from being polluted from the world?

Love GOD The Father with all of your heart, soul, strength and understanding.

The other is just like it....

The love your neighbor as yourself.

And do not forget what He told His Disciples before He went back to The Father.

Love each other as I have loved you.
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"The Vail is torn" A reference from inside of the Temple (Holy of Holies) where only the High Priest could go. When the vail was torn, God now reveals himself to the new Israel. In the Mass we are now privileged bear witness to the Holy of Holies. What was once lost to man, has now been restored in the unavailing.
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Hate and more hate, it comes from ignorance of the truth.
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It's not hate. It is THIS:

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them." Ephesians 5:11
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29396264


Is it reasonable to assume that the Mother of Harlots would be the worlds largest source of Charity and produce such people as Mother Teresa of Calcutta?
 Quoting: Monkey Breath


YES

Here is Mother Teresa in her own words

For 50 years she doubted that God even exist

Where is my faith? Even deep down ... there is nothing but emptiness and darkness ... If there be God—please forgive me. When I try to raise my thoughts to Heaven, there is such convicting emptiness that those very thoughts return like sharp knives and hurt my very soul ... How painful is this unknown pain—I have no Faith. Repulsed, empty, no faith, no love, no zeal, ... What do I labor for? If there be no God, there can be no soul. If there be no soul then, Jesus, You also are not true.


But without faith it is impossible to please Him: for he that comes to ELOHIYM must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him. Hebrews 11:6


Does Wonderful works save us

Many will say to me in that day, Adonay, Adonay, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from Me,


From her own writings, it doesn't appear that she knew Him
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Absolutely correct.


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why do you take false sacraments. false chrism, false body of christ. I already know why, but let's hear it anyway.

keep in mind I am well versed in the ancient knowledge.

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Upon this Rock I will build my Church and the Gates of Hell well not prevail against it!
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Ahh yes... There's Mister "I'm not a Catholic" quoting the most commonly cited (and misused) verse in the bible, by Roman Catholics.

You DO realize by now, that everyone on this thread knows that you have exposed yourself as a liar... Right?
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@ Monkey Breath? Would you care to expand upon what you mean?
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No problem...

Another poster on this thread called out Monkey Breath, after he CLAIMED that he "is not a Catholic", but proceeded to start a full scale war, defending the Catholic church, and citing all of their favorite misused passages, and erroneous beliefs.

Monkey Breath IS a Catholic. And has not even denied it, since he was called on it.

He pretended NOT to be, hoping that this would give him more credibility, and the APPEARANCE of just being an "unbiased" commentator.

If you want to see the full context of what I am saying, just go back and READ the last few pages of this thread.
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LOL, I have never in my life denied that I was Catholic. Never and never will. You have me mixed up with someone else. Go back and check LOL
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People are the churches not a building or location. Each person who has the spirit of God is a church. The spirit of God does not dwell within walls but dwell within man. A person is the vessel of the Holy Spirit.
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SOooooo what you're saying is you are a gay pedophile?
What the heck is an apologist, std of some kind??

J/k
Glad you found what it is you needed to fill that hole in your soul.

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The truth is the truth even if no one believes it and a lie is a lie even if everyone believes it!
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People are the churches not a building or location. Each person who has the spirit of God is a church. The spirit of God does not dwell within walls but dwell within man. A person is the vessel of the Holy Spirit.
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AMEN to that !!
The truth is the truth even if no one believes it and a lie is a lie even if everyone believes it!
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After a 70 year captivity, the religious leaders of Israel became Babylonian in their teachings and in their minds. [Ezekiel-blasphemy in the temple..the glory departed] When Christ came carnal Israelites were "the lost sheep of Israel."

"It was necessary that God's Word should first have been spoken to thee, but seeing ye put it from you, and judge yourselves unworthy of everlasting life, lo, we turn to the Gentiles."

Later, to undo the good work of Paul in Rome, a counterfeit Christianity is created. By secretly creating and controlled it, the enemy of Christ could besmirch the name of Jesus throughout the centuries while placing the blame on "Christians" (ie crusades, inquisitions, persecutions and witchhunts)

Babylon, not Catholicism, is the actual "mother of Harlots"..it's Cabala is the usually the contamination into other beliefs. When Hislop exposed Catholicism as Babylonian, he didn't know that post-captivity Judaism was, and is, in fact, the old religion of Babylon with a few twists.

So mystery Babylon uses the so-called opposition to torture true Christians even as it sends other people's children on crusades to kill Muslims. Then, in the 1800's bring in a rapture myth creaed by a Scottish cult that's based fully on "Jews" being the chosen people, (somebody must repent after the "protestants" float off.) Babylonic infiltration and control secures the Protestants. (the "new" lost sheep of Israel)

The only "Simon Peter" in ancient Rome was Simon the sorcerer..father of gnosticism and chief sorcerer to Nero. He was known in Rome as Father Simon or in Latin, Simon "Pater".

"and the vessel was marred in His hand, so He remade it"
Christ remade Israel into a spiritual nation of born again believers. No substitution. No church with a capital C.
All Israel shall be saved...add to that these words.."IT IS FINISHED"..will you diminished the work of Christ when He Said "I have lost none"

Will you replace Christ as the scripturally revealed seed of Abraham. Will you repeat the sin of Esau by ceding your birthright to the physical race of Jewish unbelievers

Didn't you know?
The covenant of Moses had been declared by all almost all the OT prophets to be annulled. The Abrahamic covenant, however, would stand.(for God made it with Himself-Abraham was asleep.) David knew, by Levitical law, that he stood condemned for sending Uriah to his death. He appealed to the covenant of Abraham. This covenant then reaches from Abraham to King David to Jesus Christ..and right to the born again believers..it is this spiritual nation which is the real Israel of God

He who is a Jew is one inwardly was what Paul taught. The Lord Jesus Himself said to a Jewish teacher of the law.."Ye must be born again". There are no Jews and Gentiles in the kingdom and it is not lineage, skin color. or anything physical that important to God...

it's the heart that must be circumcised.
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The Mother of Harlots is the whore of babylon, her name is Ishtar. Throughout the ages she has many names, and sits on many waters, even to today.

Gnosticism is the group that attempted to interpolate the Church by deceit, subterfuge, and heresy which is why the Church's response was so heavy handed. It was not the other way around!

I hope your not intentionally presenting half truths as truth.
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It's so easy to talk about the 'millions' the Church has killed, but that's dubious and I would love to see a scholarly research article which could validate that claim. Even the Crusades began as an effort to protect pilgrims from Islamic marauders, highwayman, and deviants on their journalese to Jerusalem. Corruption and war corrupts, and it didn't stop there.

Has the Church made mistakes? No it hasn't, but the people in the Church have. Apologies have been offered, and the Church has repented, so will you forgive us?

The fact of the matter that people refuse to even consider, because their minds are set and convoluted by the propaganda in popular culture, or because they are part of the conspiracy to bring about a trans humanist sexular order, is that the Church has done more good than any other institution in the history of the world, it is unbridled science and secularism which has been the cause of millions of deaths of INNOCENT civilians and untold damage to the Earth which we were entrusted as stewards to. Guess what: they've done it with your tax dollars too, and with your express consent!

How many divisions in the body of Christ since the protestant "reformation"(was it a reformation or a schism)? Thousands? A thing can be judged by its fruits. No wonder the world is in such darkness, even the members of His Body have been divided against themselves, yet the Church remains. We need to join together in Christian solidarity and be of like mind in love, light, and purpose.

You want to mention the child abuse and the evil that is committed by the 'Church' but the reality of the situation is that there are diabolical organizations of satanists, gnostic, and other devious groups which have interpolated into the masses in an attempt to discredit the Church by subterfuge and evil. The Church doesn't molest children, but I know at least one group that loves to, and then they blame others that don't acquiesce of the very same sort of perversion and wickedness that they practice and plot in their hearts. I just want those involved to know that your works have not escaped my gaze. Nevertheless the gates of hell shall not prevail against His Church. As it is written so it shall come to pass.

OP I would recommend shaking the dust off your feet and leaving this thread. They have it figured out.
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Upon this Rock I will build my Church and the Gates of Hell well not prevail against it!
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monkey Brain.... Mind open and heart closed!

Godspeed! Bless.
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Sounds just like Satan.

Open mind (open to any and all evil)...

And... Closed heart
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Forgive them for they know 'not' what they do.
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why do you take false sacraments. false chrism, false body of christ. I already know why, but let's hear it anyway.

keep in mind I am well versed in the ancient knowledge.
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you mean the deep secrets of satan?
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People are the churches not a building or location. Each person who has the spirit of God is a church. The spirit of God does not dwell within walls but dwell within man. A person is the vessel of the Holy Spirit.
 Quoting: Semper Fi 6875630


AMEN to that !!
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yes, but God also gave us a physical Church and the Sacraments. To deny the material world and only the spiritual is Manichaeism a very old Heresy.
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Hate and more hate, it comes from ignorance of the truth.
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It's not hate. It is THIS:

"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them." Ephesians 5:11
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Is it reasonable to assume that the Mother of Harlots would be the worlds largest source of Charity and produce such people as Mother Teresa of Calcutta?
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YES

Here is Mother Teresa in her own words

For 50 years she doubted that God even exist

Where is my faith? Even deep down ... there is nothing but emptiness and darkness ... If there be God—please forgive me. When I try to raise my thoughts to Heaven, there is such convicting emptiness that those very thoughts return like sharp knives and hurt my very soul ... How painful is this unknown pain—I have no Faith. Repulsed, empty, no faith, no love, no zeal, ... What do I labor for? If there be no God, there can be no soul. If there be no soul then, Jesus, You also are not true.


But without faith it is impossible to please Him: for he that comes to ELOHIYM must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him. Hebrews 11:6


Does Wonderful works save us

Many will say to me in that day, Adonay, Adonay, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from Me,


From her own writings, it doesn't appear that she knew Him
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She was referring to the purgative way aka the dark night of the soul.
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my apologies it was the illuminative way she was referring to.

The soul in the illuminative way will have to experience periods of spiritual consolations and desolations. It does not at once enter upon the unitive way when it has passed through the aridities of the first purgation. It must spend some time, perhaps years, after quitting the state of beginners in exercising itself in the state of proficients. St. John of the Cross tells us that in this state the soul, like one released from a rigorous imprisonment, occupies itself in Divine thoughts with a much greater freedom and satisfaction, and its joy is more abundant and interior than it ever experienced before it entered the night of the senses. Its purgation is still somewhat incomplete, and the purification of the senses is not yet finished and perfect. It is not without aridities, darkness, and trials, sometimes more severe than in the past. During the period of desolation it will have to endure much suffering from temptations against the theological virtues and against the moral virtues. It will have to endure sometimes other diabolical attacks upon its imagination and senses. Also, God will permit natural causes to combine in afflicting the soul, such as the persecutions of men, and the ingratitude of friends. Patient suffering and resignation have to be borne during all these trials, and the devout soul should remember the encouraging words of the pious and learned Blosius:

Nothing more valuable can befall a man than tribulation, when it is endured with patience for the love of God; because there is no more certain sign of the divine election. But this should be understood quite as much of internal as of external trials which people of a certain kind of piety forget.

And again he says,

It is the chain of patient suffering that forms the ring with which Christ espouses a soul to Himself. (Institutio Spiritualis, viii, 3)
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There are instigators and energy vampires on this thread OP. I will pray hard for them this night that they come to repentance and to a sincere thirst for truth, righteous, and saving knowledge of God through Jesus Christ. Again I would suggest you cast not pearls before swine, for they will trample them, and then turn and attack you.
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OP = DECEIVER

You = BIBLICALLY AND HISTORICALLY IGNORANT



And yes... The truth can be exhausting to those (the REAL vampires) who spend every ounce of energy in their souls fighting it.
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There are instigators and energy vampires on this thread OP. I will pray hard for them this night that they come to repentance and to a sincere thirst for truth, righteous, and saving knowledge of God through Jesus Christ. Again I would suggest you cast not pearls before swine, for they will trample them, and then turn and attack you.
 Quoting: PEER 21008556


OP = DECEIVER

You = BIBLICALLY AND HISTORICALLY IGNORANT



And yes... The truth can be exhausting to those (the REAL vampires) who spend every ounce of energy in their souls fighting it.
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For someone who slanders others, you should look into you own heart not that of others. PAX
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There are instigators and energy vampires on this thread OP. I will pray hard for them this night that they come to repentance and to a sincere thirst for truth, righteous, and saving knowledge of God through Jesus Christ. Again I would suggest you cast not pearls before swine, for they will trample them, and then turn and attack you.
 Quoting: PEER 21008556


OP = DECEIVER

You = BIBLICALLY AND HISTORICALLY IGNORANT



And yes... The truth can be exhausting to those (the REAL vampires) who spend every ounce of energy in their souls fighting it.
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please enlighten me brother.

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