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I am a catholic apologist... ask me a question

 
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Spiritual things to the ones that don't understand seem like foolishness. But to those that receive is a blessing like no other. You see the division we all believe in Jesus Christ. Jesus spoke about this in the parable with the 10 virgins.
5 were filled with oil (Holy Spirit) and 5 were foolish and were not filled. There is division those that are filled with oil (Holy Spirit) and those who are not. Those who are filled have been born again. Those who havn't been filled are empty.
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The Nazarene Church in America began in 1908.
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Spiritual things to the ones that don't understand seem like foolishness. But to those that receive is a blessing like no other. You see the division we all believe in Jesus Christ. Jesus spoke about this in the parable with the 10 virgins.
5 were filled with oil (Holy Spirit) and 5 were foolish and were not filled. There is division those that are filled with oil (Holy Spirit) and those who are not. Those who are filled have been born again. Those who havn't been filled are empty.
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may i ask a question?
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If the Church is the body of Christ, how can there be division in Christ?
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If the Church is the body of Christ, how can there be division in Christ?
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[link to bible.cc]
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If the Church is the body of Christ, how can there be division in Christ?
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[link to bible.cc]
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Thank You

When were you in the Marines?

Sorry, thought you were semper fi

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What is your definition of Church if you say RCC then you are incorrect. Those who are filled with his spirit are the church and they are not in division. However those who have not been filled are children of God as well they are those who are divided. Read the parable of the ten virgins. The 10 were his when the door opened only 5 came in 5 remained because they were empty.

10 virgins = 100% of Christians who believe in Christ

5 were wise and filled with oil = 50% of Christians

5 were foolish and empty of oil = 50% of Christians
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I'm curious to know what that means to you. You are aware that is something more Holy then you can imagine. And that should be done in your privacy. Because it's something spiritual not the way people actually do it.

The Eucharist
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Yes, there is nothing bigger than the Eucharist. NOTHING!

And only a validly ordained Priest can consecrate the Eucharist.
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The monstrance is a pre-Catholic ritual adopted to biblical text or Gnosticism. It is not in fact biblical.

The practice is recorded in the old testament pagans and condemned.



Jer 7:18 "The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings to other gods, that they may provoke me to anger."


Jer 44:19 "And when we burned incense to the queen of heaven, and poured out drink offerings to her, did we make her cakes to worship her, and pour out drink offerings to her, without our men?"


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Question: Why does it have to be biblical? and where in the bible does it needs to be so? The doctrine of sola Scriptura isn't biblical, not found in ancient Israel or in Christianity until the 16th century.
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Yes all God's word is for reproof of false beliefs and false 'jesus'. Man does not live by bread alone but by every word of God as written. When Jesus was here he went into the Synagogues and preached from the Law and Prophets of the OT books.

It is the Roman Church traditions that was a falling away from biblical truth -- God's 10C Law.
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2000/2004 was when I was in the Corps.
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You all do realize there are over 20 something Catholic Churches in communion with one another. I'm in the Latin Rite. We are not all Roman Rite Catholics.

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If the Church is the body of Christ, how can there be division in Christ?
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Many are just regional churches or denominations. Sometimes liberalism such as women pastors causes a split. Other times the enemy comes in and causes this, or even founds a church.

What we are not to have is universal unity with wickedness: "be ye separate". Rome has unity with witch doctors, voodoo, Islam and much more.
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If the Church is the body of Christ, how can there be division in Christ?
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Many are just regional churches or denominations. Sometimes liberalism such as women pastors causes a split. Other times the enemy comes in and causes this, or even founds a church.

What we are not to have is universal unity with wickedness: "be ye separate". Rome has unity with witch doctors, voodoo, Islam and much more.
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We have unity with Islam. LOL never heard about the Crusades?
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The books of the Bible were complete and in use before the close of the first century by those early Nazarene Christians long before Rome ever became Catholic.

Who wrote the NT books and when?

[link to carm.org]
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Where is historical evidence for this claim? If this Church is the one Jesus founded, I want to be in that Church and no other.
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It's all there how we know when the books were written and by who.

The beliefs of those Nazarenes are known as well and they were based on the Bible and found in many today. The Protestants was a getting back to the Bible. Christianity is based on the Bible. So no Church is needed. We dont follow any man on earth. Men will always let you down.
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The books of the Bible were complete and in use before the close of the first century by those early Nazarene Christians long before Rome ever became Catholic.

Who wrote the NT books and when?

[link to carm.org]
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Where is historical evidence for this claim? If this Church is the one Jesus founded, I want to be in that Church and no other.
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It's all there how we know when the books were written and by who.

The beliefs of those Nazarenes are known as well and they were based on the Bible and found in many today. The Protestants was a getting back to the Bible. Christianity is based on the Bible. So no Church is needed. We dont follow any man on earth. Men will always let you down.
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Links to any of this historical or scholarly information please.
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Where is this Church today and what are there beliefs? thanks in advance.
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"Who do you say I am?" Jesus asks us, as he asked those first witnesses. If these people are the honest, healthy people they so obviously show themselves to be and they say-in fact over 500 of them say (1 Corinthians 15:6)-"We saw the Risen Christ", how do we answer? The sanest answer was given by C.S. Lewis in Mere Christianity:

A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic-on a level with the man who says He is a poached egg-or else He would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God: or else a madman or something worse"...

+ + +

rose Protestants, you don't agree with people who refuse to believe Jesus is God our Savior. You believe.

How did you come to knowledge of Our Lord? Only one way, by the RCC. Everything you know of Christ comes from the RCC less the Old Testament prophesies about Our Lord.

Disbelievers, agnostics, atheists would say to you, you believe some insane teachings, no way are they possible about your Jesus.

It doesn't make sense, why do you object to and reject so much about the faith, RC.? Even saying, Christ didn't establish a Church!

If the Great Warning takes place next Year, you'll smile at your objections now. Sad, pride and our free will, there will be those, non-Christians too, who will not say "yes" even when God shows them. Pray for conversions.
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You all do realize there are over 20 something Catholic Churches in communion with one another. I'm in the Latin Rite. We are not all Roman Rite Catholics.
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Monkey, what do you mean by the Latin Rite? SSPX or do you
mean you attend the extraordinary form of the Mass, the
Tridentine Mass?
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"Who do you say I am?" Jesus asks us, as he asked those first witnesses. If these people are the honest, healthy people they so obviously show themselves to be and they say-in fact over 500 of them say (1 Corinthians 15:6)-"We saw the Risen Christ", how do we answer? The sanest answer was given by C.S. Lewis in Mere Christianity:

A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic-on a level with the man who says He is a poached egg-or else He would be the Devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God: or else a madman or something worse"...

+ + +

rose Protestants, you don't agree with people who refuse to believe Jesus is God our Savior. You believe.

How did you come to knowledge of Our Lord? Only one way, by the RCC. Everything you know of Christ comes from the RCC less the Old Testament prophesies about Our Lord.

Disbelievers, agnostics, atheists would say to you, you believe some insane teachings, no way are they possible about your Jesus.

It doesn't make sense, why do you object to and reject so much about the faith, RC.? Even saying, Christ didn't establish a Church!

If the Great Warning takes place next Year, you'll smile at your objections now. Sad, pride and our free will, there will be those, non-Christians too, who will not say "yes" even when God shows them. Pray for conversions.
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yes good one, the CS Lewis analolgoy applies to the Church as well. We are either the worst bunch of idolators on the planet or we are the Church Jesus founded. You can't have it any other way. Our claims dont allow it.
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You all do realize there are over 20 something Catholic Churches in communion with one another. I'm in the Latin Rite. We are not all Roman Rite Catholics.
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Monkey, what do you mean by the Latin Rite? SSPX or do you
mean you attend the extraordinary form of the Mass, the
Tridentine Mass?
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I'm a Latin Rite Catholic who attends a more traditional form of the Novus Ordo Mass. Our Parish has the extra ordinary form but i don't attend.

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What is your definition of Church if you say RCC then you are incorrect. Those who are filled with his spirit are the church and they are not in division. However those who have not been filled are children of God as well they are those who are divided. Read the parable of the ten virgins. The 10 were his when the door opened only 5 came in 5 remained because they were empty.

10 virgins = 100% of Christians who believe in Christ

5 were wise and filled with oil = 50% of Christians

5 were foolish and empty of oil = 50% of Christians
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Protestants disagree among themselves, they have no authority to guide them. Oh my, the division, if they agreed, they would not of have split and split and split.

There is has been one new Protestant denomination established every week since 1517. Why do you all ignore this fact?
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What is your definition of Church if you say RCC then you are incorrect. Those who are filled with his spirit are the church and they are not in division. However those who have not been filled are children of God as well they are those who are divided. Read the parable of the ten virgins. The 10 were his when the door opened only 5 came in 5 remained because they were empty.

10 virgins = 100% of Christians who believe in Christ

5 were wise and filled with oil = 50% of Christians

5 were foolish and empty of oil = 50% of Christians
 Quoting: Semper Fi 6875630


Protestants disagree among themselves, they have no authority to guide them. Oh my, the division, if they agreed, they would not of have split and split and split.

There is has been one new Protestant denomination established every week since 1517. Why do you all ignore this fact?
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Thats what liberals do, they are radical individualists who protest. Non conformist. Unfortunately many good people are brainwashed from an early age and simply do not know they were born into heresy.

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You all do realize there are over 20 something Catholic Churches in communion with one another. I'm in the Latin Rite. We are not all Roman Rite Catholics.
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Monkey, what do you mean by the Latin Rite? SSPX or do you
mean you attend the extraordinary form of the Mass, the
Tridentine Mass?
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I'm a Latin Rite Catholic who attends a more traditional form of the Novus Ordo Mass. Our Parish has the extra ordinary form but i don't attend.
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I am confused, we have two, the Novus Ordo Mass and the
Tridentine Mass. Are you saying there is a third, a more
reverent Novus Ordo Mass?

You are dear, I am not wishing to argue.

In my city, yes, there is a more reverent Novus Ordo Mass, the Holy, Holy, Holy is prayed in Latin, etc. It's also the diocese center for Divine Mercy.


Mary
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To all catholics

I have a question

Are you aware before Christianity came to Rome they were into paganism.

Are you aware what they winded up doing is plaesing both sides and united paganism along with Christianity.

Which is what still exists even to this day.

They pray to saints. Including the saint of death who looks like a demon. Skulls and skeletons and so on.

They pray to Mary and who knows how many other virgins they pray to.

Which is why true Christians escaped from Catholicism and were persecuted even thrown to the lions in the colliseum back in the days.

They call these priest Father when the lord says call no man father.

In the bible nothing is ever mentioned of a Pope but they pray and kiss him and love him as if he is lord.

Do you guys not relise that your being lied to. And are sheep who follow a stranger who leads you to be slautered. Instead of following the true shepard who is Jesus Christ. Follow his teachings, don't be ignorant or gullible to follow a man. But follow only what Jesus Christ says he will give you spiritual knowledge and understanding. Don't follow something because it's your custom or tradition but follow the truth.
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why do you take false sacraments. false chrism, false body of christ. I already know why, but let's hear it anyway.

keep in mind I am well versed in the ancient knowledge.
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you mean the deep secrets of satan?
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your old churches artwork is the deep secret of satan? interesting news.
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You all do realize there are over 20 something Catholic Churches in communion with one another. I'm in the Latin Rite. We are not all Roman Rite Catholics.
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Monkey, what do you mean by the Latin Rite? SSPX or do you
mean you attend the extraordinary form of the Mass, the
Tridentine Mass?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20541213


I'm a Latin Rite Catholic who attends a more traditional form of the Novus Ordo Mass. Our Parish has the extra ordinary form but i don't attend.
 Quoting: Monkey Breath


I am confused, we have two, the Novus Ordo Mass and the
Tridentine Mass. Are you saying there is a third, a more
reverent Novus Ordo Mass?

You are dear, I am not wishing to argue.

In my city, yes, there is a more reverent Novus Ordo Mass, the Holy, Holy, Holy is prayed in Latin, etc. It's also the diocese center for Divine Mercy.


Mary
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Yes our Novus Ordo mass is very reverent. We have all the bells and incense of the latin including Kyrie in Greek, Gloria in Latin and Sacred Music. I will link the Parish. [link to louisville-catholic.net]
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To all catholics

I have a question

Are you aware before Christianity came to Rome they were into paganism.

Are you aware what they winded up doing is plaesing both sides and united paganism along with Christianity.

Which is what still exists even to this day.

They pray to saints. Including the saint of death who looks like a demon. Skulls and skeletons and so on.

They pray to Mary and who knows how many other virgins they pray to.

Which is why true Christians escaped from Catholicism and were persecuted even thrown to the lions in the colliseum back in the days.

They call these priest Father when the lord says call no man father.

In the bible nothing is ever mentioned of a Pope but they pray and kiss him and love him as if he is lord.

Do you guys not relise that your being lied to. And are sheep who follow a stranger who leads you to be slautered. Instead of following the true shepard who is Jesus Christ. Follow his teachings, don't be ignorant or gullible to follow a man. But follow only what Jesus Christ says he will give you spiritual knowledge and understanding. Don't follow something because it's your custom or tradition but follow the truth.
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If you ever heard our side of the story and you might see things differently. Those claims are all from misunderstandings, some are just completely untrue.

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Why did The Achoress of Shere Christine Carpenter
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Sorry, Im not too familiar with the story of Christine Carpenter.
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What is your definition of Church if you say RCC then you are incorrect. Those who are filled with his spirit are the church and they are not in division. However those who have not been filled are children of God as well they are those who are divided. Read the parable of the ten virgins. The 10 were his when the door opened only 5 came in 5 remained because they were empty.

10 virgins = 100% of Christians who believe in Christ

5 were wise and filled with oil = 50% of Christians

5 were foolish and empty of oil = 50% of Christians
 Quoting: Semper Fi 6875630


Protestants disagree among themselves, they have no authority to guide them. Oh my, the division, if they agreed, they would not of have split and split and split.

There is has been one new Protestant denomination established every week since 1517. Why do you all ignore this fact?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20541213




Thats what liberals do, they are radical individualists who protest. Non conformist. Unfortunately many good people are brainwashed from an early age and simply do not know they were born into heresy.
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Exactly and why our brothers and sisters shouldn't take it so personally. It was their upbringing, they were/are
not one of the reformers (revolters).

It is difficult to change belief. Right now, so many do not realize it is going to happen, a lot of Catholics too, God is going to bring a worldwide awakening in our time.

He wants to save souls, bring everyone to the faith and warn of the anti-Christ. When this divine event happens, think of the conversions in Communist countries, in Islam when they realize, are shown who the true God is..

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