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the father above loves us all...

he forgives us all

he might at first be agitated that his children are fighting like this, but he figures they might as well work it out

no doom and gloom here move on!
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No doom and gloom? LOL!

Tell THAT to the uncountable MILLIONS and MILLIONS of souls who were EXTERMINATED by this brutal abomination, known as the Roman Papacy.

Oh, but i guess you will not have that opportunity to talk with those who were murdered, when you get to heaven. Because you will not even BE there, seeing as you align yourself with mass murders, and fancy yourself as an apologist for the Mother of Harlots.
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The American Empire and the British Empire Murder Millions of people. You have Judged me and do not know me. So you are no better than myself, Friend. Jesus knew his name would bring death across the world. He wept and bled at Gethsemane
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Hey "friend"... I don't judge ANYBODY.

The word of God judges you.

I know you by your fruits, and you are on the side of mass murderers and maniacs.
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You have not seen The fruits of my Labor. I Come in Peace. You come to mock and judge. I have not said 1 unkind word
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1. The Location of Mystery Babylon

In Revelation 17:3 it says "So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns." Revelation 17:9 shows the location of the woman which is mystery Babylon. In Revelation 17:9 it says "And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth." This is Rome in Italy. The Encyclopedia Britannica describes the" Seven Hills Of Rome" as a "group of hills on or about which the ancient city of Rome was built." (1) The location of mystery Babylon is in Rome, Italy. Today many call Vatican City the headquarters of the Roman Catholic church.

2. The Colors Of Mystery Babylon

Revelation 17: 4 describes the colors of Mystery Babylon. In Revelation 17:4 it says " And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:" Notice the colors purple, scarlet (or red), gold, precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand. In the year 2000, the newspaper starting showing color pictures of the pope as he traveled to Egypt and Israel." An article titled "Pope Celebrates Mass in Egypt -Pontiff Deplores Bias Against Christians" (2) describes some of the pope's colors, "The pope was greeted with cheers, emotional waving and song as he slowly made his way to the altar, dressed in white and gold robes." This picture also shows the pope giving a wafer to an Egyptian Catholic with the pope and cardinal holding a cup with gold in the inside standing in front of a gold and white chair. The cardinal also had clothing that was white and scarlet. In the March 12th issue of the Oregonian an article titled " The Pope's Crusade"(3), shows a picture of the pope dressed in a purple and white robe with a scarf standing between two cardinals dressed in white and scarlet. Another article from the Columbian Newspaper, titled "Frail pontiff forgoes Christ's symbolic walk" (4) shows a picture of the pope dressed in white and scarlet . We see from Revelation 17:4 that these unique colors show the Roman Catholic Church is Mystery Babylon.

3. Mystery Babylon Drunken With The Blood Of The Saints

In Revelation 17:5-6 it says "5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. 6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration." In verse 5 the Bible calls Mystery Babylon the mother of Harlots . . . In verse 6 we see Mystery Babylon "Drunken with the blood of the saints." During the Inquisition "From 1200 to 1808, unspeakable tortures and death stalked the Catholic world, with 68 million victims.(5)" During this time period many Bible believing Christians were killed by the Catholics.

In closing, as we look at the location, the unique colors and a history of killing Bible believing Christians we can see that The Roman Catholic Church is Mystery Babylon." 4

But so many countless times and for so many centuries did the Church extend wide open her orifices to accommodate all sizes of evil favors that she, without question, is the Mother of all Harlots; the scum of Fornication; and the filth of the Earth. Not only did she sell her soul to the Devil but in the process she also tortured, maimed, burnt, raped, and killed countless innocent Christians and non-Christians alike, at home and abroad — all in the name of the Almighty Creator!

We have to admire and give grudging credit at her ingenuity and craftiness, being able to seduce and subdue such multitudes for so many centuries. There definitely cannot be a better example in the entire history of humankind than the craftiness of the Evil One in misleading humans through his infallible popes! Their insistence on infallibility reduced hapless humanity into soulless serfs groveling and begging for the mercy of salvation from the Church, the Beast of Revelation. What ingenuity! What cunning! What craftiness! What power!

We have to wonder in great admiration and give Satan the accolades he is due. The Prince of Darkness truly deserves a standing ovation.
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Where in Scripture does it say anything about praying to saints or the virgin marry?
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For all Ages call me Blessed. No other Church reveres The Virgin Mary as much as the Catholic Church. Who would Not Honor her. She birthed Our Savior. And she is Full of Grace
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I agree she should be held in revrence, however, the roman catholic church puts her on a pedistal that is nothing short of idolatry. No where in Scripture does it say that we should pray to her. Or any of the apostles or any human for that matter. We are to pray in the name of Jesus Christ, to God the Father, through the power and guidance of the Holy Spirit.
This is what Jesus taught. There are no varitions on this.
Read the Scriptures for what they say, not oral pagan tradition passed down by false prophets and infiltrators.
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She is the Queen of Heaven. She is our Handmaid, we dont pray to her. We ask her to pray with us and for us. She was assumed into heaven. You dont think she loves you, and want to talk to you. You are her Son. Son, this is your Mother. Mother this is your son. Talk to her
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How do you relate so many changes within the rcc, its dogma, mass and sacraments, when God is never changing and constant?

Why all the rationalized changes issued/decreed by rcc hierarchy over the years?


Do you realize that it wasn't until Constantine conquered peoples of Eastern Europe who had tradition of goddess-worship that "mary" was elevated to venerable status? Jesus never instructed The Apostles or HIS Disciples to pray to HIS mother or that she was special.


Yet, as one who has seen both sides, having been educated through catholic schools and a true-believer in the church; but later gave my life Unto The Father and Became Born-Again per Ezekiel 36:26-27, I can witness that catholicism is a cult and since 1600 has chosen to remain alienated from The Holy Trinity.



What you acclaim here has nothing to do with God The Father or God The Son. Christ was Born into this worls and Gave HIS Life To Enable you to live in Relationship and Personal Direct Contact With The Father. catholicism denies The Gospel, works unceasingly against God's Will and Plan For Humanity, and seeks to keep parishioners from Knowing HIS Truth.

Ultimately, if you Love Christ and Know WHO HE IS, it is because God The Father Has Called your heart unto HIM... That you choose to place your allegiance with the anti-Christ rcc simply shows the depths of your indoctrination and inability to discern that God Desires Direct Relationship With Man, and any man Abiding In-HIM has no need of any "church" or denominational affiliation.


If you find your solace within the rcc rather than God Directly, it simply confirms your alienation from HIM....
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Where in Scripture does it say anything about praying to saints or the virgin marry?
 Quoting: The_Mhael


For all Ages call me Blessed. No other Church reveres The Virgin Mary as much as the Catholic Church. Who would Not Honor her. She birthed Our Savior. And she is Full of Grace
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24484272


I agree she should be held in revrence, however, the roman catholic church puts her on a pedistal that is nothing short of idolatry. No where in Scripture does it say that we should pray to her. Or any of the apostles or any human for that matter. We are to pray in the name of Jesus Christ, to God the Father, through the power and guidance of the Holy Spirit.
This is what Jesus taught. There are no varitions on this.
Read the Scriptures for what they say, not oral pagan tradition passed down by false prophets and infiltrators.
 Quoting: The_Mhael


She is the Queen of Heaven. She is our Handmaid, we dont pray to her. We ask her to pray with us and for us. She was assumed into heaven. You dont think she loves you, and want to talk to you. You are her Son. Son, this is your Mother. Mother this is your son. Talk to her
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Where in Scripture is she declared the queen of heaven...
Please Op, look and post links.
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1. The Location of Mystery Babylon

In Revelation 17:3 it says "So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns." Revelation 17:9 shows the location of the woman which is mystery Babylon. In Revelation 17:9 it says "And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth." This is Rome in Italy. The Encyclopedia Britannica describes the" Seven Hills Of Rome" as a "group of hills on or about which the ancient city of Rome was built." (1) The location of mystery Babylon is in Rome, Italy. Today many call Vatican City the headquarters of the Roman Catholic church.

2. The Colors Of Mystery Babylon

Revelation 17: 4 describes the colors of Mystery Babylon. In Revelation 17:4 it says " And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:" Notice the colors purple, scarlet (or red), gold, precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand. In the year 2000, the newspaper starting showing color pictures of the pope as he traveled to Egypt and Israel." An article titled "Pope Celebrates Mass in Egypt -Pontiff Deplores Bias Against Christians" (2) describes some of the pope's colors, "The pope was greeted with cheers, emotional waving and song as he slowly made his way to the altar, dressed in white and gold robes." This picture also shows the pope giving a wafer to an Egyptian Catholic with the pope and cardinal holding a cup with gold in the inside standing in front of a gold and white chair. The cardinal also had clothing that was white and scarlet. In the March 12th issue of the Oregonian an article titled " The Pope's Crusade"(3), shows a picture of the pope dressed in a purple and white robe with a scarf standing between two cardinals dressed in white and scarlet. Another article from the Columbian Newspaper, titled "Frail pontiff forgoes Christ's symbolic walk" (4) shows a picture of the pope dressed in white and scarlet . We see from Revelation 17:4 that these unique colors show the Roman Catholic Church is Mystery Babylon.

3. Mystery Babylon Drunken With The Blood Of The Saints

In Revelation 17:5-6 it says "5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. 6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration." In verse 5 the Bible calls Mystery Babylon the mother of Harlots . . . In verse 6 we see Mystery Babylon "Drunken with the blood of the saints." During the Inquisition "From 1200 to 1808, unspeakable tortures and death stalked the Catholic world, with 68 million victims.(5)" During this time period many Bible believing Christians were killed by the Catholics.

In closing, as we look at the location, the unique colors and a history of killing Bible believing Christians we can see that The Roman Catholic Church is Mystery Babylon." 4

But so many countless times and for so many centuries did the Church extend wide open her orifices to accommodate all sizes of evil favors that she, without question, is the Mother of all Harlots; the scum of Fornication; and the filth of the Earth. Not only did she sell her soul to the Devil but in the process she also tortured, maimed, burnt, raped, and killed countless innocent Christians and non-Christians alike, at home and abroad — all in the name of the Almighty Creator!

We have to admire and give grudging credit at her ingenuity and craftiness, being able to seduce and subdue such multitudes for so many centuries. There definitely cannot be a better example in the entire history of humankind than the craftiness of the Evil One in misleading humans through his infallible popes! Their insistence on infallibility reduced hapless humanity into soulless serfs groveling and begging for the mercy of salvation from the Church, the Beast of Revelation. What ingenuity! What cunning! What craftiness! What power!

We have to wonder in great admiration and give Satan the accolades he is due. The Prince of Darkness truly deserves a standing ovation.
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Mystery Babylon was Alive Well before the Church. It was brewing even in the time of David, and Solomon. And when the Hebrews were exiled. Mystery Babylon is against the Holy Trinity. The Church Glorifies The Trinity
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Dear One,

Some would say, "Satan led me astray," but you did not. You took responsibility for your own choices. " Can you not take responsibility for your own choice to love and serve the Lord? She is very nice. You really do not need a leeching Patriarchal institution to tell you what your heart knows, now go forth and be the Man God made you to be.
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For all Ages call me Blessed. No other Church reveres The Virgin Mary as much as the Catholic Church. Who would Not Honor her. She birthed Our Savior. And she is Full of Grace
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24484272


I agree she should be held in revrence, however, the roman catholic church puts her on a pedistal that is nothing short of idolatry. No where in Scripture does it say that we should pray to her. Or any of the apostles or any human for that matter. We are to pray in the name of Jesus Christ, to God the Father, through the power and guidance of the Holy Spirit.
This is what Jesus taught. There are no varitions on this.
Read the Scriptures for what they say, not oral pagan tradition passed down by false prophets and infiltrators.
 Quoting: The_Mhael


She is the Queen of Heaven. She is our Handmaid, we dont pray to her. We ask her to pray with us and for us. She was assumed into heaven. You dont think she loves you, and want to talk to you. You are her Son. Son, this is your Mother. Mother this is your son. Talk to her
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Where in Scripture is she declared the queen of heaven...
Please Op, look and post links.
 Quoting: The_Mhael


If Jesus Reigned as King on Earth. The Virgin Mary would be his Queen. Hebrew tradition. So of course She is Queen in His Everlasting Kingdom. Her Body was Assumed for a Reason.
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Where in Scripture does it say anything about praying to saints or the virgin marry?
 Quoting: The_Mhael


For all Ages call me Blessed. No other Church reveres The Virgin Mary as much as the Catholic Church. Who would Not Honor her. She birthed Our Savior. And she is Full of Grace
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24484272


I agree she should be held in revrence, however, the roman catholic church puts her on a pedestal that is nothing short of idolatry. No where in Scripture does it say that we should pray to her. Or any of the apostles or any human for that matter. We are to pray in the name of Jesus Christ, to God the Father, through the power and guidance of the Holy Spirit.
This is what Jesus taught. There are no variations on this.
Read the Scriptures for what they say, not oral pagan tradition passed down by false prophets and infiltrators.
 Quoting: The_Mhael


These people actually PRAY to Mary. Who was just a woman. A good woman, but not "immaculate" and not without sin.

She is DEAD, and waiting in her grave for the resurrection.

You can rub your beads and pray to Mary until you are blue in the face, and she's NEVER going to hear you, let alone be able to "help you".
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Why do other Denominations Disrespect the Holy Eucharist. Even throw it out completely?
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1. The Location of Mystery Babylon

In Revelation 17:3 it says "So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns." Revelation 17:9 shows the location of the woman which is mystery Babylon. In Revelation 17:9 it says "And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth." This is Rome in Italy. The Encyclopedia Britannica describes the" Seven Hills Of Rome" as a "group of hills on or about which the ancient city of Rome was built." (1) The location of mystery Babylon is in Rome, Italy. Today many call Vatican City the headquarters of the Roman Catholic church.

2. The Colors Of Mystery Babylon

Revelation 17: 4 describes the colors of Mystery Babylon. In Revelation 17:4 it says " And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:" Notice the colors purple, scarlet (or red), gold, precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand. In the year 2000, the newspaper starting showing color pictures of the pope as he traveled to Egypt and Israel." An article titled "Pope Celebrates Mass in Egypt -Pontiff Deplores Bias Against Christians" (2) describes some of the pope's colors, "The pope was greeted with cheers, emotional waving and song as he slowly made his way to the altar, dressed in white and gold robes." This picture also shows the pope giving a wafer to an Egyptian Catholic with the pope and cardinal holding a cup with gold in the inside standing in front of a gold and white chair. The cardinal also had clothing that was white and scarlet. In the March 12th issue of the Oregonian an article titled " The Pope's Crusade"(3), shows a picture of the pope dressed in a purple and white robe with a scarf standing between two cardinals dressed in white and scarlet. Another article from the Columbian Newspaper, titled "Frail pontiff forgoes Christ's symbolic walk" (4) shows a picture of the pope dressed in white and scarlet . We see from Revelation 17:4 that these unique colors show the Roman Catholic Church is Mystery Babylon.

3. Mystery Babylon Drunken With The Blood Of The Saints

In Revelation 17:5-6 it says "5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. 6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration." In verse 5 the Bible calls Mystery Babylon the mother of Harlots . . . In verse 6 we see Mystery Babylon "Drunken with the blood of the saints." During the Inquisition "From 1200 to 1808, unspeakable tortures and death stalked the Catholic world, with 68 million victims.(5)" During this time period many Bible believing Christians were killed by the Catholics.

In closing, as we look at the location, the unique colors and a history of killing Bible believing Christians we can see that The Roman Catholic Church is Mystery Babylon." 4

But so many countless times and for so many centuries did the Church extend wide open her orifices to accommodate all sizes of evil favors that she, without question, is the Mother of all Harlots; the scum of Fornication; and the filth of the Earth. Not only did she sell her soul to the Devil but in the process she also tortured, maimed, burnt, raped, and killed countless innocent Christians and non-Christians alike, at home and abroad — all in the name of the Almighty Creator!

We have to admire and give grudging credit at her ingenuity and craftiness, being able to seduce and subdue such multitudes for so many centuries. There definitely cannot be a better example in the entire history of humankind than the craftiness of the Evil One in misleading humans through his infallible popes! Their insistence on infallibility reduced hapless humanity into soulless serfs groveling and begging for the mercy of salvation from the Church, the Beast of Revelation. What ingenuity! What cunning! What craftiness! What power!

We have to wonder in great admiration and give Satan the accolades he is due. The Prince of Darkness truly deserves a standing ovation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 610248


Mystery Babylon was Alive Well before the Church. It was brewing even in the time of David, and Solomon. And when the Hebrews were exiled. Mystery Babylon is against the Holy Trinity. The Church Glorifies The Trinity
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You are confusing LITERAL Babylon (of the old testament), with SPIRITUAL Babylon, which the Papacy is the modern day MOTHER of.

You have ZERO spiritual discernment, and are aligning yourself with the woman (harlot) who rides the beast, in Revelation 17.
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Why do other Denominations Disrespect the Holy Eucharist. Even throw it out completely?
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Because it's just another bastardized PAGAN ritual, brought into the "church", by highly deceived (and/or evil) people.
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I agree she should be held in revrence, however, the roman catholic church puts her on a pedistal that is nothing short of idolatry. No where in Scripture does it say that we should pray to her. Or any of the apostles or any human for that matter. We are to pray in the name of Jesus Christ, to God the Father, through the power and guidance of the Holy Spirit.
This is what Jesus taught. There are no varitions on this.
Read the Scriptures for what they say, not oral pagan tradition passed down by false prophets and infiltrators.
 Quoting: The_Mhael


She is the Queen of Heaven. She is our Handmaid, we dont pray to her. We ask her to pray with us and for us. She was assumed into heaven. You dont think she loves you, and want to talk to you. You are her Son. Son, this is your Mother. Mother this is your son. Talk to her
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24484272


Where in Scripture is she declared the queen of heaven...
Please Op, look and post links.
 Quoting: The_Mhael


If Jesus Reigned as King on Earth. The Virgin Mary would be his Queen. Hebrew tradition. So of course She is Queen in His Everlasting Kingdom. Her Body was Assumed for a Reason.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24484272


No where in Scripture does it say that Jesus needs a queen. It does however talk about 'his bride' aka the church (the real church, his elect) and how he is preparing a place for them. Do not be mislead Op. The scripture are not meant to be added to or subtracted from.

Revelation 22:18-21
I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the pagues described in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take way his share in the tree of life and in the holy city which is described in this book. He who testifies to these things says, "Surely I am coming soon" Amen. Come, Lord Jesus! The grace of the Lord Jesus be with all. Amen.

Pick up the WORD and put down the pagan traditions.
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Make no mistake people... When the Roman church is in power, MILLIONS and MILLIONS of people die.

The NUMBER ONE reason for the masses of people fleeing Europe in the 1600's and 1700's, was to escape the clutches of this MURDEROUS and BLASPHEMOUS antichrist system.

The reason that out founding father made FREEDOM OF RELIGION number ONE in the Bill of Rights, was to make sure that the same thing would not happen in THIS country, as was going on over in Europe.

People literally risked LIFE AND LIMB to cross the Atlantic, to get away from the papacy.

One of the main reasons for the French revolution, was to DESTROY the death grip of the papacy! That is why Napoleon sent General Berthier to Rome, to take the bastard pope prisoner, and put a STOP to the insanity. Unfortunately, Napoleon threw out the baby (Christianity) with the bathwater, when he struck his death blow to the papacy.
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Make no mistake people... When the Roman church is in power, MILLIONS and MILLIONS of people die.

The NUMBER ONE reason for the masses of people fleeing Europe in the 1600's and 1700's, was to escape the clutches of this MURDEROUS and BLASPHEMOUS antichrist system.

The reason that out founding father made FREEDOM OF RELIGION number ONE in the Bill of Rights, was to make sure that the same thing would not happen in THIS country, as was going on over in Europe.

People literally risked LIFE AND LIMB to cross the Atlantic, to get away from the papacy.

One of the main reasons for the French revolution, was to DESTROY the death grip of the papacy! That is why Napoleon sent General Berthier to Rome, to take the bastard pope prisoner, and put a STOP to the insanity. Unfortunately, Napoleon threw out the baby (Christianity) with the bathwater, when he struck his death blow to the papacy.
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^^^ our founding fathers ^^^


typo correction
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What is your opionion of the Orthodox Church?
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She is the Queen of Heaven. She is our Handmaid, we dont pray to her. We ask her to pray with us and for us. She was assumed into heaven. You dont think she loves you, and want to talk to you. You are her Son. Son, this is your Mother. Mother this is your son. Talk to her
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24484272


Where in Scripture is she declared the queen of heaven...
Please Op, look and post links.
 Quoting: The_Mhael


If Jesus Reigned as King on Earth. The Virgin Mary would be his Queen. Hebrew tradition. So of course She is Queen in His Everlasting Kingdom. Her Body was Assumed for a Reason.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24484272


No where in Scripture does it say that Jesus needs a queen. It does however talk about 'his bride' aka the church (the real church, his elect) and how he is preparing a place for them. Do not be mislead Op. The scripture are not meant to be added to or subtracted from.

Revelation 22:18-21
I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the pagues described in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take way his share in the tree of life and in the holy city which is described in this book. He who testifies to these things says, "Surely I am coming soon" Amen. Come, Lord Jesus! The grace of the Lord Jesus be with all. Amen.

Pick up the WORD and put down the pagan traditions.
 Quoting: The_Mhael




THIS ^^^
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Good for you OP. Stick to your foundations and live your life with love and compassion. Don't be led astray by people who want to bash your faith because they don't agree with it.
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Good for you OP. Stick to your foundations and live your life with love and compassion. Don't be led astray by people who want to bash your faith because they don't agree with it.
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There is no 'faith bashing'. This is a very grave matter and a clear distinction between false doctrine and what Jesus actually taught. So many are quick to dismiss Christianty, yet how many of those have actually read the Scriptures in their entirety? Actually taken the effort to sit there and truly seek HIM? Fallen on their faces and asked for forgiveness and guidance? Too few. That is the reality.
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Saying that Catholics are of the Mystery Babylon and need to run to another sect of Christianity is retarded.

Interpret the Bible as you know truth. Each tale may bring different truths to the individual. God works in mysterious ways. To accept what man teaches you, tells you what to believe, that is far more dangerous. Read the Bible as it is, as God's word.
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Good for you OP. Stick to your foundations and live your life with love and compassion. Don't be led astray by people who want to bash your faith because they don't agree with it.
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Sad thing about catholicism is the parishioner/clergy faith is not given Unto God, but rather placed in the church, its hierarchy and decrees.


German priest John Huss was burned alive at the stake in 1200 for the "blasphemy" of reading the mass to his congregation in their native language rather than latin. His scalp was removed before he was burned alive to show his disapproval by the vatican of that era.


Would God desire that HIS Flock, HIS Church understand The Word, The Gospel and the ceremony of the mass? Undoubtedly, but the rcc is alienated from HIM and does as it will.


Priests at one time were allowed to be married.

Wonder if the rcc still teaches purgatory? Does crossing self with holy water still reduce your time in purgatory by 7yrs every time you cross yourself?

Are catholic school children still taught to baptize any dying person they come across?

How about meatless friday? How many hours must abstain from food before communion these days? How about all the new names for the sacraments?

How is sacrament of reconciliation going to work for you if you've never Come Unto The Father and been Born-Again? How can you be reconciled with God if you've never Come Unto HIS Accord?

Why does Jesus Witness, "...NO Man Cometh Unto The Father But By ME"??
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Saying that Catholics are of the Mystery Babylon and need to run to another sect of Christianity is retarded.

Interpret the Bible as you know truth. Each tale may bring different truths to the individual. God works in mysterious ways. To accept what man teaches you, tells you what to believe, that is far more dangerous. Read the Bible as it is, as God's word.
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You are just rejecting what is written. It's not what man says or reads into it. The Bible only says one thing and cannot be made to say different, no matter if you want it to or not. You only reject what is written making you in error. The four beasts of Daniel and Revelation are about Rome and there is no way around it. Even Catholic scholars admit this.
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Good for you OP. Stick to your foundations and live your life with love and compassion. Don't be led astray by people who want to bash your faith because they don't agree with it.
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Foundation: Peter or Jesus?

"For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ." (1 Corinthians 3:11)

Many other passages we read Jesus is the foundation stone the rock the church is built upon. This is not the Catholic Church but the body of believers. Paul founded many churches. The Nazarenes were the first Christians.
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How do you relate so many changes within the rcc, its dogma, mass and sacraments, when God is never changing and constant?

Why all the rationalized changes issued/decreed by rcc hierarchy over the years?


Do you realize that it wasn't until Constantine conquered peoples of Eastern Europe who had tradition of goddess-worship that "mary" was elevated to venerable status? Jesus never instructed The Apostles or HIS Disciples to pray to HIS mother or that she was special.


Yet, as one who has seen both sides, having been educated through catholic schools and a true-believer in the church; but later gave my life Unto The Father and Became Born-Again per Ezekiel 36:26-27, I can witness that catholicism is a cult and since 1600 has chosen to remain alienated from The Holy Trinity.



What you acclaim here has nothing to do with God The Father or God The Son. Christ was Born into this worls and Gave HIS Life To Enable you to live in Relationship and Personal Direct Contact With The Father. catholicism denies The Gospel, works unceasingly against God's Will and Plan For Humanity, and seeks to keep parishioners from Knowing HIS Truth.

Ultimately, if you Love Christ and Know WHO HE IS, it is because God The Father Has Called your heart unto HIM... That you choose to place your allegiance with the anti-Christ rcc simply shows the depths of your indoctrination and inability to discern that God Desires Direct Relationship With Man, and any man Abiding In-HIM has no need of any "church" or denominational affiliation.


If you find your solace within the rcc rather than God Directly, it simply confirms your alienation from HIM....
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The World is always changing, so the Church must adapt. I am not always happy with The Churches decisions BUT the World is different. Protestant Churches change whenever a Pastor feels like it. The Church has protocol. Since the death of Christ and shortly after there has been Marian Worship. Its not just a RCC thing. " All ages call me Blessed " We Revere here. "Hail, Favored one The Lord is with YOU " She gets a Greeting unlike ANY other in the Bible. Love Here with All your Heart. She is Your Mother, and Mine.
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Good for you OP. Stick to your foundations and live your life with love and compassion. Don't be led astray by people who want to bash your faith because they don't agree with it.
 Quoting: overwhatshername



Foundation: Peter or Jesus?

"For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ." (1 Corinthians 3:11)

Many other passages we read Jesus is the foundation stone the rock the church is built upon. This is not the Catholic Church but the body of believers. Paul founded many churches. The Nazarenes were the first Christians.
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Jesus Is The Rock, but The Rock sits on Peter. If he wasnt important, WHY the Name Change???
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Saying that Catholics are of the Mystery Babylon and need to run to another sect of Christianity is retarded.

Interpret the Bible as you know truth. Each tale may bring different truths to the individual. God works in mysterious ways. To accept what man teaches you, tells you what to believe, that is far more dangerous. Read the Bible as it is, as God's word.
 Quoting: overwhatshername



You are just rejecting what is written. It's not what man says or reads into it. The Bible only says one thing and cannot be made to say different, no matter if you want it to or not. You only reject what is written making you in error. The four beasts of Daniel and Revelation are about Rome and there is no way around it. Even Catholic scholars admit this.
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You tell Half Truths. Rome Circa 1AD is Babylon. But NOT Modern Vatican. There Were and Are Many Babylons. Half of Revelations was completed with Destruction of Jerusalem. Another Babylon. The Beast or Anti-Christ will not be a Pope. Before the World Hated me, it Hated Jesus First. Everybody LOVES to HATE Catholics. Probably because All You Know are Luke Warm Catholics. I LOVE ALL my Brother and Sisters in Christ. Peace
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Where in Scripture is she declared the queen of heaven...
Please Op, look and post links.
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If Jesus Reigned as King on Earth. The Virgin Mary would be his Queen. Hebrew tradition. So of course She is Queen in His Everlasting Kingdom. Her Body was Assumed for a Reason.
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No where in Scripture does it say that Jesus needs a queen. It does however talk about 'his bride' aka the church (the real church, his elect) and how he is preparing a place for them. Do not be mislead Op. The scripture are not meant to be added to or subtracted from.

Revelation 22:18-21
I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the pagues described in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take way his share in the tree of life and in the holy city which is described in this book. He who testifies to these things says, "Surely I am coming soon" Amen. Come, Lord Jesus! The grace of the Lord Jesus be with all. Amen.

Pick up the WORD and put down the pagan traditions.
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THIS ^^^
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My Church was Started by Christ. Every Protestant Church by MAN. Ill go with Christ OVER Martin Luther
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Flush the past. Time for the new. Cling to those thoughts written by the easily wowed if you must, but we have become as gods ourselves in their eyes. Ever hear of separation of church and state? I think the date of complete departure is right around the corner. rockon
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Brave person, whoever you are, we would have to be the most despised religion in the world atm, and most of it based on ignorance.
I've recently returned to the Church too :)
God bless!
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Brave person, whoever you are, we would have to be the most despised religion in the world atm, and most of it based on ignorance.
I've recently returned to the Church too :)
God bless!
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God Bless Kool! Ignorance is Bliss. We are Hated just like Christ. It fuels me. Love your Neighbor. God Bless :)

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