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Jesus Witnesses numerous times about Doing Father's Will...

Only ONE WAY to Know and Do Father's Will: Be Born-Again
26. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them. From Ezekiel ch 36


Only those who Do Father's Will are Known By HIM...
From matthew ch 7:
21. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23. And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.


HE says HE Don't KNOW you, even if you've done miracles, healings, cast out demons, or anything else you think proved your love for HIM; unless you Do The Will Of HIS Father...


Marvel not that I say unto you, Ye Must Be Born-Again!
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Only One Way Unto The Father...

Only by Being Born-Again are you Enabled To Do Father's Will.


Nothing here that is of-religion. All is Of Your Heart.


If you Love Christ Jesus, KNOW HIM To Be God The Son, then per Matthew 16 you were Given The Rock By The Father and have been Called Unto HIM...

Maybe you are catholic as I was, or calvinist, adventist, presbyterian, unitarian or any other denomination. Maybe you just go to a Bible Church...


These are The Final Moments. The Age of Faith will soon end and with its ending so will end The Time for Christian Surrender.


If you would be God's, now is the time to take action and open your heart Unto The Father in sincere and honest prayer...

Acknowledge Christ Jesus,
Admit & repent of your sins,
Claim your share of Father's Infinite Mercy & Grace,
Give HIM your life, all of it; good & bad seeking only HIS Will for the rest of your days,
Ask HIM to Send HIS Holy Spirit to Guide your life.

HE Will, if you are sincere...
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From matt 16:

13. When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?

14. And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.
15. He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?


16. And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.


17. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

18. And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

19. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
20. Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ.



KNOWING WHO Jesus IS, is "The Rock". Your Foundation.

God's enemy cannot remove or mislead you IF you KNOW...


All that matters in your life is your decision to give your life Unto The Father. It is the purpose for which you were born, Given Knowledge Of Jesus, and the reason you seek HIM.

In John 3:14 Jesus Witnesses that we must "Lift Up The Son Of Man" If you can Trust God Fully with every aspect of your life, now is the time to tell HIM so.
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The hatred for the Church only illustrates it to be the Church founded by Christ.
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God Bless. Been saying it the whole time
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K.Kool, OP, Monkey and everyone,

I posted this under and old thread today, entitled ~

passion of the Catholic Church - beautiful images - oh, the faith

Search for the thread, you will like the video in the OP, the
photos and the modern song about Mary.

~ ~ ~

Wow! rose A holy priest....in France. I think of St. John Vianney.

Father Michael-Marie doesn't look like he is in his fifties. rose He's right about wearing the cassock. Father prayers the rosary.

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[link to chiesa.espresso.repubblica.it]

"EVERYTHING MUST START AFRESH FROM CHRIST"

by Marina Corradi


That black tunic fluttering along Rue Canabière, among a crowd more Maghrebi than French, makes you turn around. Check it out, a priest, and dressed like once upon a time, on the streets of Marseille. A dark-haired man, smiling, and yet with something reserved and monastic about him. And what a story behind him: he sang in the nightclubs in Paris, was ordained only eight years ago and since then has been pastor here, at Saint-Vincent-de-Paul.

But in reality the story is even more complicated: Michel-Marie Zanotti-Sorkine, 53, is descended from a Russian Jewish grandfather who immigrated into France and had his daughters baptized before the war. One of these daughters, who escaped from the Holocaust, brought into the world Fr. Michel-Marie, who on his father's side is half Corsican and half Italian. (What a bizarre mix, you think: and you look with amazement at his face, trying to understand what a man is like who has such a tangle of roots behind him). But if one Sunday you enter his packed church and listen to how he speaks of Christ with simple everyday words, and if you observe the religious slowness of the elevation of the host, in an absolute silence, you ask yourself who this priest is, and what it is in him that draws people, bringing back those who are far away.

Finally you have him in front of you, in his white, monastic rectory. He seems younger than his years; he does not have those wrinkles of bitterness which mark the face of a man with time. There is a peace upon him, a joy that is astonishing. But who are you?, you would like to ask him immediately.

In front of a frugal meal, the highlights of an entire life. Two splendid parents. The mother, baptized but only formally Catholic, allows her son to go to church. The faith is imparted to him "by an elderly priest, a Salesian in a black cassock, a man of generous and boundless faith.” The desire, at the age of eight, to be a priest. At thirteen he loses his mother: "The pain devastated me. And yet I never doubted God.” Adolescence, music, and that beautiful voice. The piano bars of Paris, which may seem little suited to discerning a religious vocation. And yet, while the decision slowly ripens, the spiritual fathers of Michel-Marie tell him to keep to the nightlife of Paris: because there as well a sign is needed. Finally the vocation pays off. In 1999, at the age of 40, his childhood wish comes true: a priest, and in a cassock, like that elderly Salesian.

Why the cassock? "For me" – he smiles – "It is a work uniform. It is intended to be a sign for those who meet me, and above all for those who do not believe. In this way I am recognizable as a priest, always. In this way on the streets I take advantage of every opportunity to make friends. Father, someone asks me, where is the post office? Come on, I'll go with you, I reply, and meanwhile we talk, and I discover that the children of that man are not baptized. Bring them to me, I say in the end; and I often baptize them later. I seek in every way to show with my face a good humanity. Just the other day" – he laughs – "in a cafe an old man asked me which horses he should bet on. I gave him the horses. I asked the Blessed Mother for forgiveness: but you know, I said to her, it is to befriend this man. As a priest who was one of my teachers used to tell those who asked him how to convert the Marxists: 'One has to become their friend,' he would reply."

Then, in church, the Mass is stark and beautiful. The affable priest of Canabière is a rigorous priest. Why take so much care with the liturgy? "I want everything to be splendid around the Eucharist. I want that at the elevation, the people should understand that He is here, truly. It is not theater, it is not superfluous pomp: it is inhabiting the Mystery. The heart too needs to feel."

He insists a great deal on the responsibility of the priest, and in one of his books – he has written many books, and still writes songs sometimes – he affirms that a priest who has an empty church must examine himself and say: "It is we who lack fire." He explains: "The priest is 'alter Christus,' he is called to reflect Christ in himself. This does not mean asking perfection of ourselves; but being conscious of our sins, of our misery, in order to be able to understand and pardon anyone who comes to the confessional."

Fr. Michel-Marie goes to the confessional every evening, with absolute punctuality, at five o'clock, without fail. (The people, he says, must know that the priest is there, in any case). Then he remains in the sacristy until eleven o'clock, for anyone who might want to go to him: "I want to give the sign of an unlimited availability." Judging by the constant pilgrimage of the faithful, in the evening, one would say that it works. Like a deep demand that emerges from this city, apparently far removed. What do they want? "The first thing is to hear someone say: you are loved. The second: God has a plan for you. One must not make them feel judged, but welcomed. They must be made to understand that the only one who can change their lives is Christ. And Mary. There are two things that, in my view, permit a return to the faith: the Marian embrace, and impassioned apologetics, which touches the heart."

"Those who seek me out," he continues, "are asking first of all for human assistance, and I try to give all the help possible. Not forgetting that the beggar needs to eat, but also has a soul. To the offended woman I say: send me your husband, I will talk to him. But then, how many come to say that they are sad, that their lives are no good . . . Then I ask them: how long has it been since you went to confession? Because I know that sin is a burden, and the sadness of sin is a torment. I am convinced that what makes many people suffer is the lack of the sacraments. The sacrament is the divine within the reach of man: and without this nourishment we cannot live. I see grace at work, and that people change."

Days given in their entirety, on the streets or in the confessional, until nighttime. Where does he get the energy? He – almost shyly, as one speaks of a love – talks of a deep relationship with Mary, of an absolute confidence with her: "Mary is the act of total faith, in the abandonment beneath the Cross. Mary is absolute compassion. She is pure beauty offered to man." And he loves the rosary, the humility of the rosary, the priest of Canabière: "When I hear confessions, I often say the rosary, which does not prevent me from listening; when I give communion, I pray." You listen to him, intimidated. But then, should all priests have an absolute dedication, almost like saints? "I am not a saint, and I do not believe that all priests must be saints. But they can be good men. The people will be attracted by their good face."

Are there any problems, in streets with such a strong presence of Muslim immigrants? No, he says simply: "They respect me and this garment." In church, he welcomes everyone with joy: "Even the prostitutes. I give them communion. What should I say? Become honest, before you enter here? Christ came for sinners, and I have the anxiety, in withholding a sacrament, that he could bring me to account for it one day. But do we still know the power of the sacraments? I have the misgiving that we have excessively bureaucratized the admission to baptism. I think of the baptism of my Jewish mother, which in terms of the request of my grandfather was merely a formal act: and yet, even from this baptism there came a priest."

And the new evangelization? "Look," he says as we say goodbye in his rectory, "the older I get, the more I understand what Benedict XVI says: everything truly starts afresh from Christ. We can only return to the source."

Later, I glimpse him at a distance, on the street, with that black garment ruffled by his rapid stride. "I wear it," he told you, "so that I may be recognized by someone I might never meet otherwise. That stranger, who is very dear to me."
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Wow!

Thanks so much for this, I've been feeling the hate lately, the anti-Catholic vitriol,
now I feel like there are others out there, who share my faith, and it's enough to keep me going :)

Mary always, always responds to me, when I need her, I pray the Hail Mary, the other night she helped me through a very bad migraine.

She is the reason my Prader-Willi Syndrome daughter is still alive, and diabetes free, I usually pray to Mary for my motherly concerns, because it seems natural to do so, given that she was a mother, and is the Mother of Jesus, he is naturally bound to love her, and it takes nothing away from him, as the Son.
I pray to Jesus separately, and to God, separately, though I know they are the Trinity, and everything God knows, Jesus knows.


hf
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Hi K. hi,

I'll offer prayers for you daughter, my, how she must love you hf.

I am awake to pray the Chaplet of Divine Mercy. It's a special hour, 3:00 A.M., it is the hour of Our Lord's Resurrection (per private revelation).

Most everyone realizes, if you find yourself waking up
at 3:00 A.M., it's your guardian angel awakening you to
pray. Pray and fall back to sleep.

Yes, isn't it something, the story of Father Maria-Michael.



Mary


p.s. Dear brothers and sisters in Christ, see, it isn't
Jesus or Mary or Jesus alone, we can speak to both of them
in prayer. You can too.
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hf


Thankyou Mary :)


I think people can't let themselves believe, when the whole world ethos is to continually boost ego and be complete in themselves, millions and millions of tiny prisons when the universe is theirs to explore.
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Lester: By what authority do you claim to speak for yourself on matters of interpreting scripture and other matters of the Christian faith?
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Look at the date, the Didache was written long before the
Church canonized the BIBLE.

Tuesday, August 19, 2008
Didache on Confession and Eucharistic Sacrifice
Posted by Dr. Taylor Marshall

The Didache is a magnificent little document that is likely the oldest non-biblical Christian text, dating to about A.D. 70-90. I came across one line that is a pure gold nugget of Catholic practice and doctrine:

On the Lord's own day, assemble in common to break bread and offer thanks (Greek: "to Eucharist"), but first confess your sins so that your sacrifice may be pure." Didache, 14.

Here we have an imperative for the Sunday obligation - to come together for the Eucharist. Next, there is an imperative that Christians "confess your sins". Thirdly, the act of "breaking the bread" is referred to as a "sacrifice". In all three regards, typical Protestant practice and theology diverges from this very early witness to Christian piety. We find that the early Apostolic Church already practiced an obligatory Sunday Eucharist, confession of sins, and belief in the sacrificial aspect of the Eucharist. \
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Not supported by the Bible - only inspired books.

Paul was warning there were already antichrists at work in the church (God's people). Then in the book of Acts (70 AD) Simon Magus is identified as one such heretic-gnostic-maji.

There were at least two different Christianities going on. The synagogue of Satan was another identification of the false Christian church in those early days.

If it's not founded on the bible it is a false tradition, as is Rome's Church w/mary saints and vicar of christ.

Most who take even a brief look at Christianity can see this. There is no truth in the religion of the Roman Church.

No truth in Islam either, but it doesnt stop them. Of course most of Islam is in the Middle Eastern countries where conversion is against the law.
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The books of the Bible were in use by Nazarene Christians long before Rome accepted them.

Look at the date, the Didache was written long before the
Church canonized the BIBLE.

Tuesday, August 19, 2008
Didache on Confession and Eucharistic Sacrifice
Posted by Dr. Taylor Marshall

The Didache is a magnificent little document that is likely the oldest non-biblical Christian text, dating to about A.D. 70-90. I came across one line that is a pure gold nugget of Catholic practice and doctrine:

On the Lord's own day, assemble in common to break bread and offer thanks (Greek: "to Eucharist"), but first confess your sins so that your sacrifice may be pure." Didache, 14.

Here we have an imperative for the Sunday obligation - to come together for the Eucharist. Next, there is an imperative that Christians "confess your sins". Thirdly, the act of "breaking the bread" is referred to as a "sacrifice". In all three regards, typical Protestant practice and theology diverges from this very early witness to Christian piety. We find that the early Apostolic Church already practiced an obligatory Sunday Eucharist, confession of sins, and belief in the sacrificial aspect of the Eucharist. \
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Not supported by the Bible - only inspired books.

Paul was warning there were already antichrists at work in the church (God's people). Then in the book of Acts (70 AD) Simon Magus is identified as one such heretic-gnostic-maji.

There were at least two different Christianities going on. The synagogue of Satan was another identification of the false Christian church in those early days.

If it's not founded on the bible it is a false tradition, as is Rome's Church w/mary saints and vicar of christ.

Most who take even a brief look at Christianity can see this. There is no truth in the religion of the Roman Church.

No truth in Islam either, but it doesnt stop them. Of course most of Islam is in the Middle Eastern countries where conversion is against the law.
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Can you share the history timeline of the Nazarene Christians?

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"The Nazarene sect used in the Book of Acts clearly referred to both Jewish and Gentile followers of Jesus' Apostles ... they accepted the virgin birth of Jesus.

The Nazarenes were originally Jewish converts of the Apostles who fled Jerusalem because of Jesus' warning of its coming siege."

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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You can follow the likes of Martin Luther, John Calvin, John Smith, The Anglican church, The Watchtower,Brigham Young ETC... While You read The Word of GOD put together by the Roman Catholic Church and live in Ignorance. I Follow the Church that Christ left in the Hands of Peter.

" And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it."

"I tell you the truth, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."

Every Christian Denomination was Made by MAN, and will Fall. The Roman Catholic Church was started by Jesus Christ, and authority on Earth given to Peter. What he Binds on earth is bound in heaven, and what he loose on Earth is loosed in Heaven. Peter was Given the KEYS to Heaven and Earth. No other Apostle. His Church will Stand Forever. Jesus Doesnt forget Promises. Trust Jesus Christ... Not the Protestant Revolution.
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not only do i find the bible full of confusion... but moreso, people that take a verse from here, there and everywhere and put it together as fact... sry.....
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not only do i find the bible full of confusion... but moreso, people that take a verse from here, there and everywhere and put it together as fact... sry.....
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“If your brother or sister sins, go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over. 16 But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’ 17 If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector. “Truly I tell you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."


What Church can He be talking about??? Its not a quote out of place. The Church Binds and Loose. The CHURCH makes decisions. not Citizenperth. The RCC has Power on Earth
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I led my life astray many years ago, and found peace and love with my return to the One Holy Catholic Apostolic church.. Ask me a Question
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you're under anathema for papistacy heresies...
How can you be happy to reject the teaching os Jesus Christ and to "believe" what the man pretending infailibility is saying... is just theatral opposition to God.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE PAPISTACY IS NOT HOLY, IS NOT CATHOLIC, IS NOT APOSTOLIC?
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Why do catholics pray to marry? thats against what God even says. Why would God want any of his children in heaven and fianlly at peace tortured with people prayers of sorrow and pain and help? God can only hear your prayers brother. Dont let the catholic false religion steer ya wrong brother!
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You can follow the likes of Martin Luther, John Calvin, John Smith, The Anglican church, The Watchtower,Brigham Young ETC... While You read The Word of GOD put together by the Roman Catholic Church and live in Ignorance. I Follow the Church that Christ left in the Hands of Peter.

" And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it."

"I tell you the truth, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."

Every Christian Denomination was Made by MAN, and will Fall. The Roman Catholic Church was started by Jesus Christ, and authority on Earth given to Peter. What he Binds on earth is bound in heaven, and what he loose on Earth is loosed in Heaven. Peter was Given the KEYS to Heaven and Earth. No other Apostle. His Church will Stand Forever. Jesus Doesnt forget Promises. Trust Jesus Christ... Not the Protestant Revolution.
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Jesus said to the jews " i will tear down the church and rebuild it in 3 days" the high priest said "it took 40 years to build this church!".. then Jesus walked away... Jesus ment there will be NO MORE CHURCHES. the true churches and places of worship are inside the people. and when a few friends get together and talk about God.. this is what Jesus wanted... There is no way he gave peter authority to build church's all over which have been known for RAPE and molestation, they worship vials of blood and have dead pope body on display to worship as well. Think about it.. does that sound right. Catholics are quite Evil they have been trying to destroy Christians ever since they where made. Jesus says you can tell the tree from the fruit... Fruit from catholics is rotten brother. i mean this is the most respectful way. hate to see someone who feels Gods love go down the wrong path... like my muslim friends :( :(
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You can follow the likes of Martin Luther, John Calvin, John Smith, The Anglican church, The Watchtower,Brigham Young ETC... While You read The Word of GOD put together by the Roman Catholic Church and live in Ignorance. I Follow the Church that Christ left in the Hands of Peter.

" And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it."

"I tell you the truth, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."

Every Christian Denomination was Made by MAN, and will Fall. The Roman Catholic Church was started by Jesus Christ, and authority on Earth given to Peter. What he Binds on earth is bound in heaven, and what he loose on Earth is loosed in Heaven. Peter was Given the KEYS to Heaven and Earth. No other Apostle. His Church will Stand Forever. Jesus Doesnt forget Promises. Trust Jesus Christ... Not the Protestant Revolution.
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The RC was started by the Pontifex Maximus Caesar Pope - a man.

Christians follow God's word, the Bible only. They congregate to study the Bible together often in churches and various denominations. The RC did not create the Bible. It was in use by the Nazarene Christians long before Rome ever perverted the Gospel.
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Why do catholics pray to marry? thats against what God even says. Why would God want any of his children in heaven and fianlly at peace tortured with people prayers of sorrow and pain and help? God can only hear your prayers brother. Dont let the catholic false religion steer ya wrong brother!
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RC pray to an entire calender of saints that pre existed as the Greek gods. The nuns also pre existed as Rome's vestal virgins. These are all tradition not from Christianity and are still not Christian today having no biblical foundation.
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Why do catholics pray to marry? thats against what God even says. Why would God want any of his children in heaven and fianlly at peace tortured with people prayers of sorrow and pain and help? God can only hear your prayers brother. Dont let the catholic false religion steer ya wrong brother!
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RC pray to an entire calender of saints that pre existed as the Greek gods. The nuns also pre existed as Rome's vestal virgins. These are all tradition not from Christianity and are still not Christian today having no biblical foundation.
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really, poor lost souls. did anyone see that wierd satanic looking wooden sculpture behind the pope latly... scary looking. not to mention i seen him kissing a vial of blood from the prevous pope:(
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You can follow the likes of Martin Luther, John Calvin, John Smith, The Anglican church, The Watchtower,Brigham Young ETC... While You read The Word of GOD put together by the Roman Catholic Church and live in Ignorance. I Follow the Church that Christ left in the Hands of Peter.

" And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it."

"I tell you the truth, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."

Every Christian Denomination was Made by MAN, and will Fall. The Roman Catholic Church was started by Jesus Christ, and authority on Earth given to Peter. What he Binds on earth is bound in heaven, and what he loose on Earth is loosed in Heaven. Peter was Given the KEYS to Heaven and Earth. No other Apostle. His Church will Stand Forever. Jesus Doesnt forget Promises. Trust Jesus Christ... Not the Protestant Revolution.
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That is also the universal church I believe in, have faith in,
and belong to, and I am so very, very grateful, for the sacraments in particular, and for Pope Benedict.
It is wonderful to me, at present, my return home :)
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Lester: By what authority do you claim to speak for yourself on matters of interpreting scripture and other matters of the Christian faith?
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I have The Authority Of Almighty God and HIS Will To Obey in Justification of my witness...


Scripture Witnesses God's Truth, but unless you are Born-Again per Ezekiel 36, and thereby Known By Christ Jesus per HIS Witness in Luke 13, Matt 7, Mark 9, and Matt 12; you will have no Recognition of HIS Truth or Knowledge of God's Will.

The Old Testament Witnesses The Born-Again Life... From Ezekiel ch 36:
26. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.


You possibly have read my posts here.
Not understanding Scripture, or Christ Jesus' Purpose In Father's Plan for mankind, you are unable or unwilling to contemplate the experiences I have shared.

I gave my life Unto God The Father, and was Born-Again. I realized once my prayer/offering of self was concluded that I Had Been IN Father's Presence and HE Accepted me.

The Greatest moment of my life and of a more heightened reality than any other milestone in my life.


I witness with All Truth Endowed unto me by Almighty God, and for over 10,000 posts here, have never lied or sought to sway or convert anyone.


My Authority is not of this world.
I have no "divinity degree". I Abide With God.

What you choose to disregard of my witness matters not to me. What matters is that I give it and that anyone whose heart is so moved to seek God in earnest prayer and make their surrender may likely find Spiritual Fulfillment and God's Victory as I have.


As St.John Witnesses in 1st Epistle ch 2 v27: "...The Anointing which ye have received Of-HIM Abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same Anointing teacheth you of all things, and IS Truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall Abide In-HIM."


Christ Jesus Witnesses primarily on being Born-Again and Doing The Will Of HIS Father Which IS In Heaven...


Jesus also Witnesses in Mark 9 about The Unknown Apostle...
37. Whosoever shall receive one of such children in my name, receiveth me: and whosoever shall receive me, receiveth not me, but him that sent me.

38. And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us.
39. But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me.
40. For he that is not against us is on our part.

41. For whosoever shall give you a cup of water to drink in my name, because ye belong to Christ, verily I say unto you, he shall not lose his reward.
42. And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.



I say that roman catholicism, of which I have intimate scholarly awareness and experience, is entirely committed to "offending these little ones". That is that by the rcc's Denial of The Gospel and its efforts to pervert God's Truth and keep its parishioners from Coming Unto The Father.

There is no accidental misinterpretation of catholic dogma. Its alienation from God is by deliberate purpose.

The innocents, like children, are the God-fearing parishioners and clergy who would be able to embrace Christ Jesus' Witness and God's Plan were they allowed to be made aware of it. Yet, the cult of catholicism seeks to deny God's Knowledge to them...

As St. John also Witnesses in 1st Epistle ch 2:
20. But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.
21. I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.


22. Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
24. Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.

25. And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.
26. These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.


the rcc DENIES Christ Jesus, Father, and Holy Spirit by its apostasy and perversion of The Gospel.


If you were Born-Again, you too would have The Unction From The Holy One to Guide your life and Enable you to Know All Things.

God's Authority is not any man's to convey or control.
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Matthew 16:13-20 cites the circumstance and meaning of Jesus' Witness about "The Rock"...

13. When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?
14. And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.

15. He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?

16. And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

17. And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
18. And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
19. And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
20. Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ.


The Rock is Knowing WHO Jesus IS... Unless you KNOW WHO HE IS you cannot be Born-Again or Come Unto The Father.

At this time, and right up until before HIS death, many of The Apostles did not Understand or Know. Jesus Marvels that Simon Barjona (Peter) KNEW HIM To Be The Christ, Son Of The Living God. Only The Father Gave This Knowledge To Peter...

That is The Rock. God's Call upon your heart. If you Know WHO Christ Jesus IS, God Has Called your heart. Will you answer? Will you attend The King's Wedding Feast? Will you Trust God Fully with every aspect of your life and Enable HIM to Give you A New Heart Of HIS Flesh?

Jesus Witnesses this in The King's Wedding Feast Parable from Matthew 22:
2. The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,

3. And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.
4. Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.
5. But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:
6. And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.
7. But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.


8. Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.
9. Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.
10. So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.


11. And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:
12. And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.
13. Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
14. For many are called, but few are chosen.


If God Has Called your heart and you choose to make your surrender, you will Come Into HIS Accord, Know HIM and Be Enabled to Do HIS Will and live free from sin. This is The Born-Again Experience. Your Wedding Garment...

Can't Come Unto The Father unless HE Has Called your heart. Your invitation. Will you accept and be in attendance?


Maranatha!!!
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Lester said:
God's Authority is not any man's to convey or control.

Ok, We agree that God is the ultimate Authority. He is God, but isn't Authority passed down? Didn't Jesus pass authority on to Peter when he gave him the Keys, what about when he said to the Apostles "he that hears you hears me"? Remember he did not announce his Resurrection to the whole World, but only to a few.

How do you know how many books are in the bible? Why do the Protestants have 66 and the Catholics have 73? Did Martin Luther have the right to remove 7 books from the bible? Did God leave us without a speaking authority or representative on earth to be the final voice in a dispute?

Your "man made doctrine" of Sola Scriptura isn't biblical nor even traditional within Christianity or Judaism.

"Look, the fact is, the only reason you and I have the New Testament canon is because of the trustworthy teaching authority of the Catholic Church. As Augustine put it, ‘I would not believe in the Gospels were it not for the authority of the Catholic Church’ (Against the Letter of Mani Called "The Foundation" 5:6). Any Christian accepting the authority of the New Testament does so, whether or not he admits it, because he has implicit trust that the Catholic Church made the right decision in determining the canon.

By your own admission, You have no authority to interpret Scripture. So please stop doing so!

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You are familiar with Bible passages in the books of Daniel and Revelation about the harlot church, then describing her as being wealthy and having a global empire?

Why do you think Jesus warned about this?
 Quoting: - 29002615


The Harlot is Babylon. Just to let you know Vatican Hill is NOT 1 of the 7 hills of Rome. A wealthy Global Empire also sounds like the Anglican church.
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The Wealthy Anglican Church made an Image to the beast ;)
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Where is Scripture does it say anything about praying to saints or the virgin marry?
 Quoting: The_Mhael


For all Ages call me Blessed. No other Church reveres The Virgin Mary as much as the Catholic Church. Who would Not Honor her. She birthed Our Savior. And she is Full of Grace
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She needed a Savior also
Mary was Human and sinful

The Difference between Christ and Mary
Christ was born in a Human Body & Didn't ever Sin
Christ was Totally Human and Totally Divine

Mary was Human not Divine

Christ is Alpha and Omega
The Omnipotent He lives through all time

Mary waits until the Resurrection as Do the Saints
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Lester said:
God's Authority is not any man's to convey or control.

Ok, We agree that God is the ultimate Authority. He is God, but isn't Authority passed down? Didn't Jesus pass authority on to Peter when he gave him the Keys, what about when he said to the Apostles "he that hears you hears me"? Remember he did not announce his Resurrection to the whole World, but only to a few.

How do you know how many books are in the bible? Why do the Protestants have 66 and the Catholics have 73? Did Martin Luther have the right to remove 7 books from the bible? Did God leave us without a speaking authority or representative on earth to be the final voice in a dispute?

Your "man made doctrine" of Sola Scriptura isn't biblical nor even traditional within Christianity or Judaism.

"Look, the fact is, the only reason you and I have the New Testament canon is because of the trustworthy teaching authority of the Catholic Church. As Augustine put it, ‘I would not believe in the Gospels were it not for the authority of the Catholic Church’ (Against the Letter of Mani Called "The Foundation" 5:6). Any Christian accepting the authority of the New Testament does so, whether or not he admits it, because he has implicit trust that the Catholic Church made the right decision in determining the canon.

By your own admission, You have no authority to interpret Scripture. So please stop doing so!
 Quoting: Monkey Breath



Kind of a priggish bitch, ain't ya?
Not much difference between the smell of a monkey's breath or ass vapors; in my estimation, never having close enough to verify, unless a Kuramundi counts? Kind of strange for a "catholic apologist" to hang such a moniker on themselves and then go about their "defender of motherchurch" chosen role. Who appointed you to anything, unless you're telling us you've taken orders and been consecrated to the priesthood???



Don't really matter one bit; you are a liar and confounder. One of those Jesus Witnesses "better never to have been born". Funny how my catholic university bookstore had KJV priced much cheaper than the rcc Bible. When I bought books for one course in Theology I bought the cheap KJV by mistake, but it didn't matter at all in the course; save not having same page references as the priest who taught the course.

The REAL ISSUE is catholicism LIES and MISLEADS its parishioners. Mary is dead in her grave. Jesus Witnesses that "those who Do The Will Of My Father Are My Mother, Brother, Sister", St. John Witnesses "you need no man to teach you"....

Plenty more if we discuss the real apostasy, murder and plunder agenda, along with the TREASON that constitutes the rcc political agenda. Especially subversion against The USA.

Jesus Did NOT Appoint Peter to anything. The Apostles and Disciples did that after Pentecost.
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Lester said: Plenty more if we discuss the real apostasy, murder and plunder agenda, along with the TREASON that constitutes the rcc political agenda. Especially subversion against The USA.


Okay my friend, lets discuss the charges you bring against the Church one at a time. How far back do you want to go, 2000 years? Please make a list of your top 5?

Thanks my friend

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Lester said: Kind of a priggish bitch, ain't ya?
Not much difference between the smell of a monkey's breath or ass vapors; in my estimation, never having close enough to verify, unless a Kuramundi counts?

Now I'm not an exorcist but your comments in regard to such a sacred subject matter comes off as rather diabolic. Ugliness does not come from God.
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So many Early Catholic Saints and Popes, and followers were Martyred for their Roman Catholic Faith. Would YOU DIE for Martin Luther, or John Calvin? Because I would Die for my Roman Catholic Faith. Just as Jesus foreshadowed to Peter that He would have to Die for HIM. So i would do the same for Christ. You Read the Bible canonized by The Church, you say Her Prayers, YOU say You know Jesus Christ BUT You Do NOT know His Church. Mere Men pick and choose what they LIKE about HIS Church and start their OWN. My Church has 2000 years of History. My Saints touched Jesus Christs body and saw him resurrected. They Preached " The Good News " till the Ends of the Earth, and Spread LOVE around The World. ALL Catholic Hate is Done in Ignorance. We FEED, Clothe, shelter, Educate, Help the WHOLE WORLD. We Feed the Beggars and clothe the Homeless. My Church has good fruit, your church is barren. Jesus promised " The Gates of Hell Shall Not Prevail " against his Church. Too bad when you find out He was Right. It will be Too Late. Your churches teach anything but sola scripture. In Fact you learn what YOUR Pastor believes. You are taught He is Right and ALL Catholic Doctrine is False. Baptists churches change by pastor. Lutheran Churches change by pastor etc... My Church has rules. Which SHE follows.

Protestants.. Explain getting rid of Eucharist, NOT respecting and Honoring Mary, Denying Peters role in the Church, Martin Luther taking confession till he died etc.. You can change anytime Your Pastor sees fit. No guidelines. My Church is NOT Perfect... BUT She is THE Universal Church Jesus Established.

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