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The Crescent (islam) That Stole Christmas

 
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The way I see it, the actual problem is not necessary the muslims in Brussels (although the root of the problem can be traced back to them as well), but first and foremost this is the responsibility of the city leaders. And Brussels is not just the capital of Belgium, it is the symbolic capital city of the European Union. If it was just the Belgians problem, I wouldn't give a flying rats ass, but this is, although in a symbolic way, a message to all Europeans, Christians or not. A clear message that the leaders don't care about the Christians, just the 'sensibility' of anything that has nothing to do with the cultural roots of Europe. They want to wipe out everything with a cultural background. Living in a country that suffered under the rule of the soviet union, this is all very familiar to me. The slogan of the commies was to wipe out the past. Just read their anthem, the internationale, they sung it at every occasion.

'Of the past let us make a clean slate'

'There are no supreme saviours
Neither God, nor Caesar, nor tribune.'

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

this is their motto. And if we look around in the EU institutions, we can still find many commies. Best example is José Manuel Barroso, who is the president of the EU commission, which is the quasi executive power of the union. He started his political career in the portguese workers communist party. And many others can be found... Oh, and the name union. I can't really see the difference anymore between a soviet union, and now an other union. The soviet union failed in 1991, and right after the European Union was founded ( cause it was called european communities before). The symbol of the SU was a red star, the symbol of the new union is a yellow star... they can't even come up with new things.

So to summarize my little rant, I think the problem is much bigger here in Europe than it might seem...
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12/08/2012 11:59 AM
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Are you fucking kidding me?

This is fucking America.

You citizens in Brussels are PUSSIES for letting muslims take away that beautiful christmas tree. Don't you remember 9/11? Take your town back, morans.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23602194


wait...wait...wait, before we call them "pussies" the same thing is happening here. the leftard and the islamotards have joined forces to remove christmas from public displays in the US. i read the other night that american aclu now boasts 8 islamo freaks on their national board of directors.
 Quoting: davvi


No one wants your insane bullshit polluting our city squares.

Christians are retarded and are a national embarrasment to the USA all over the world.

We are suppossed to have a separation of government and church, which means you take your magicl fairy tale bullshit, it put it up in your own home where it belongs.
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12/08/2012 12:00 PM

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Just another example of political correctness run amok. To everyone in Belgium, I want to wish you all a Merry Christmas.
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please do not assault the "new belgiums" sensitive feelings, and lets just say to the real belgiums, Zalig Kerstfeest and hope that this isn't the last year that the muzz will allow them to celebrate that which "offends" muzz.
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The way I see it, the actual problem is not necessary the muslims in Brussels (although the root of the problem can be traced back to them as well), but first and foremost this is the responsibility of the city leaders. And Brussels is not just the capital of Belgium, it is the symbolic capital city of the European Union. If it was just the Belgians problem, I wouldn't give a flying rats ass, but this is, although in a symbolic way, a message to all Europeans, Christians or not. A clear message that the leaders don't care about the Christians, just the 'sensibility' of anything that has nothing to do with the cultural roots of Europe. They want to wipe out everything with a cultural background. Living in a country that suffered under the rule of the soviet union, this is all very familiar to me. The slogan of the commies was to wipe out the past. Just read their anthem, the internationale, they sung it at every occasion.

'Of the past let us make a clean slate'

'There are no supreme saviours
Neither God, nor Caesar, nor tribune.'

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

this is their motto. And if we look around in the EU institutions, we can still find many commies. Best example is José Manuel Barroso, who is the president of the EU commission, which is the quasi executive power of the union. He started his political career in the portguese workers communist party. And many others can be found... Oh, and the name union. I can't really see the difference anymore between a soviet union, and now an other union. The soviet union failed in 1991, and right after the European Union was founded ( cause it was called european communities before). The symbol of the SU was a red star, the symbol of the new union is a yellow star... they can't even come up with new things.

So to summarize my little rant, I think the problem is much bigger here in Europe than it might seem...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18612185


your "little rant" was excellent. thumbs
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12/08/2012 12:03 PM

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Are you fucking kidding me?

This is fucking America.

You citizens in Brussels are PUSSIES for letting muslims take away that beautiful christmas tree. Don't you remember 9/11? Take your town back, morans.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23602194


wait...wait...wait, before we call them "pussies" the same thing is happening here. the leftard and the islamotards have joined forces to remove christmas from public displays in the US. i read the other night that american aclu now boasts 8 islamo freaks on their national board of directors.
 Quoting: davvi


No one wants your insane bullshit polluting our city squares.

Christians are retarded and are a national embarrasment to the USA all over the world.

We are suppossed to have a separation of government and church, which means you take your magicl fairy tale bullshit, it put it up in your own home where it belongs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29343131


another lefty/muzz heard from.
A Jewish mother dreams that her son will grow up to be a doctor or, if retarded, a lawyer." --Jackie Mason

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12/08/2012 04:00 PM
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The way I see it, the actual problem is not necessary the muslims in Brussels (although the root of the problem can be traced back to them as well), but first and foremost this is the responsibility of the city leaders. And Brussels is not just the capital of Belgium, it is the symbolic capital city of the European Union. If it was just the Belgians problem, I wouldn't give a flying rats ass, but this is, although in a symbolic way, a message to all Europeans, Christians or not. A clear message that the leaders don't care about the Christians, just the 'sensibility' of anything that has nothing to do with the cultural roots of Europe. They want to wipe out everything with a cultural background. Living in a country that suffered under the rule of the soviet union, this is all very familiar to me. The slogan of the commies was to wipe out the past. Just read their anthem, the internationale, they sung it at every occasion.

'Of the past let us make a clean slate'

'There are no supreme saviours
Neither God, nor Caesar, nor tribune.'

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

this is their motto. And if we look around in the EU institutions, we can still find many commies. Best example is José Manuel Barroso, who is the president of the EU commission, which is the quasi executive power of the union. He started his political career in the portguese workers communist party. And many others can be found... Oh, and the name union. I can't really see the difference anymore between a soviet union, and now an other union. The soviet union failed in 1991, and right after the European Union was founded ( cause it was called european communities before). The symbol of the SU was a red star, the symbol of the new union is a yellow star... they can't even come up with new things.

So to summarize my little rant, I think the problem is much bigger here in Europe than it might seem...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18612185


your "little rant" was excellent. thumbs
 Quoting: davvi


thank you. I wish there was no reason for me to write these down. I could fill pages with my anger. which is more of a sorrow, but seeing this madness, it spirals down to anger.

I'm not a big fan of islam, but in this case I see them as some kind of scapegoat. City officials say they don't want to offend muslims, so that's why they don't put up a Christmas tree. Okay, but they don't refer to any request being made from the muslim community, where they say they will be offended by seeing a Christmas tree. the town leaders just kind of decided by themselves it would do so. Again, I'm not defending muslims here, cause I personally see it as a very deceptive religion at least in the way it is interpreted and practiced today, but here, in this particular case it's not their fault that such things could happen in the 'capital' of the EU, they are just blamed for it. Of course it is easier for city leaders to point fingers at them, than taking the responsibility for their actions. They hope this way they don't have to show their true faces.
But this brings up an other question. How did so many muslims could even get into Europe? Well one aspect are the employment contracts decades ago between some european and some muslim countries (Turkey for example) inviting in foreign workers, and then they could stay. That would've been ok, but then there came other european laws, granting for family reunification, and immigration and asylum laws which basically let anybody enter Europe. I know there are many other factors too, this is just the very basic legal background of how muslims could enter in big numbers. Into the Europe, which was fighting against the Ottoman Empire just a few centuries ago. Or maybe it wasn't really? Here, in schools we learn about how our nation was fighting against the ottomans for a long time, but then after a while we just couldn't hold them back any longer, and we fell under a 150 years of turkish rule as well. what is not emphasized in schools, but as many historians point out is the fact that the papacy made pacts with the ottomans. The pope didn't care about the lives of millions of christians back then, just as he doesn't care these days either. and I'm saying these as somebody who was born and raised catholic. But the only thing connecting me to Catholicism is that i really like and enjoy traditional catholic hymns, I have a respect for the Virgin Mary and the Saints, but that is all. I have not much respect for the institution of the papacy as it is now, and during its history.
But back to muslims... for centuries we fought to keep them out of Europe, and now there are millions of them in the continent. But they are used as tools. The leftist leaders of Europe use them to wipe out the tradition of Europe. Of course they start with oppressing and abolishing Christian traditions, because after the spread of liberalism it is already weak. A big number of Europeans are atheists. Of course they can freely choose to be so, so I won't go into why I see this as tragic now... So as I see it, first the internationalist left-wingers are trying to abolish everything that is Christian in Europe. They first used dialectic materialism, and other philosophical teachings to turn people away from faith. It worked quite well, but still, lot of people resisted, and stayed with their Christian traditions. So they had to come up with something else. Muslims came handy, because they're quite an aggressive bunch, so commies can refer to concerns about muslims being offended by Christian symbols, so more pious and peaceful Europeans would rather see their symbols being banned than having this aggressive group throwing a fit. But again, in this particular case, they didn't even, at least not officially asked for this. But seemingly, nobody cares about this. But I really feel offended by the absence of the Christmas tree. Do the leaders of Europe care? no need to answer... But now I'm absolutely sure that once they finished off Christianity, their next target will be islam, because leftists have no faith in any god.
but 2 decades passed since the fall of the soviet union, and the leaders of europe are still international liberals and commies. this is an even bigger problem than the muslims. because if we had real leaders with respect to European values we wouldn't even be having problems with muslims slowly growing into a majority in some regions.
and I know many people come up with the argument that the Christmas tree has pagan origins. but does it matter? it is not worshiped by anybody, it is merely a symbol that people of the Christian faith can relate to. People don't make sacrifices, don't dance in circles around it, or do any such pagan rites. This pagan card is also mostly used to turn people away from traditions.

And an other thought about the red star/yellow star thing... The leftist forces of the world are trying really hard to make the white star of the US join into this red star/yellow star 'union' too, and they are really doing a good job with this. Maybe in the background it has already happened. But please don't let them achieve their goal in turning the US into a socialist state. It is one of the biggest lies of human history, that it's for the benefits of anybody...
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They gave it away actually they cast it far from them...not stolen but forsaken.
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This is so sad ! The first steps of Europe's transformation into a caliphate !

Giving up our customs and traditions because they may offend the muslims is completely unacceptable ! Unfortunately by the time people wise up...it will be too late !
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City officials in Brussels have announced that the traditional Christmas tree will not be displayed in the public square due to concerns that it might offend the minority Muslim population.



It seems that the insanity of political correctness is reaching a frenzied apex. Now, any reference to Christianity whatsoever will not be tolerated by “open-minded” liberals. Brussels councilwoman Bianca Debaets told reporters that a “misplaced argument” over religious sensitivities caused the city to remove the traditional Christmas tree and replace it with a “winter” sculpture. To further make her point, she remarked that any city display must not be referred to as “Christmas.” Brussels removed a Christian symbol and replaced it with a secular one, although it is unclear what the new display symbolizes.



“I suspect that the reference to the Christian religion was the decisive factor,” she told reporters about the decision to replace the tree. “For a lot of people who are not Christians, the tree there is offensive to them.”[1] One is left with the hollow words so often hurled forth by leftists when burning a flag, “it’s only a piece of cloth.” Yet one will not hear from these same liberals the argument that this tree is “only a tree.”

[link to www.tfp.org]

so score one for the islamists, they have managed to remove christmas from a western country. my friends and i have a bet about what will be next? what else do muslims hate about our countries? it is easy to say "everything" and that would be true, but lets get specific.

i say the next assault will be on our pets. anything which brings joy to the human spirit muslims hate. so give fido a kiss and a hug, throw the ball for him because god knows how long our muslim over-lords will allow us to keep them.
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Oh the irony.
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my hungarian friend:

ah now you have touched my pet theory, however, i don't think that muslims are being scape-goated at all (goat and muzzie in the same sentence? did we really mean to do that?). i have believed for sometime that there is a partnership between the left and islam. i will leave the reader to decide whether that partnership is formal and recognized or exists as a nod and a wink. i think it exists quite openly and i also believe that each thinks of the other as their own personal "useful idiot." both parties, islamic scum and leftist scum, have designs on this planet of ours and none of them are healthy for the average person. they see a world either submitting to islam, or just as bad, a world dominated by the steel fist of socialsim.

islam wishes for a world-wide caliphate replete with a mosque on every corner, a woman, a boy, whatever, in every bedroom and children to whip at leisure. christianity, is frankly in the way of their road to this caliphate, so islam also sees every christian beheaded, and every jew, suffering unspeakable tortures for daring to reject their prophet and his cult and not embracing the most debilitating, soul crushing, religious ideology ever created in the dark recesses of an insane narccissist's mind.

the left despises christianity for daring to cling to traditional values, the ability to know right from wrong and say which is which. the left depises the fact that christians actually believe there is something greater than the "state?" how dare christians worship something other than a government bureaucrat? the left is focussed like a laser on christianity with the sole purpose of destroying it and along with it western democracy and western freedoms. if that destruction comes at the cost of embracing a violent, murderous group of savages, well so be it, the end justifies the means.

at this point in time the left holds the power that islam craves. the left owns the media, the left own "big" education, and in all of our countries the left owns the government bureaucracy. oh how the islamist must envy the left's power, while at the same time, i think that leftists must salivate watching the control that islam imposes on the "believers." how the left would love to see christians asses in the air praying to obumbles five times a day, and long for that robot like control which islam posesses. what an unnatural realtionship when you consider that the hard left think of themselves open minded and tolerant and yet they seem ok with joining forces with their polar opposite. but are they polar opposites? no, not at all.

the left and islam have a common enemy and that is what brings them together. that enemy is combined in our western culture, our judeo-christian customs, human rights and the freedoms to allow people to think and create. the left uses islam to destroy christmas, and islam uses the left to shove political correctnesss on all of us. i also believe that each thinks the other is assisting in a much greater plan and that is to eliminate free speech, free expression, and freedom as an entire concept.

who stand for freedom democracy and human rights? the enemies of islam and the left.

i also think the dye has been cast and the forces arraigned against christians, jews, the west are mighty and the will of the rest of us has been tamed if not extinquished altogether. for at least two generations white men have been beaten into submission, our schools are little indoctrination centers which openly teach that the west and whites are guilty of every evil perpetrated in the last 2000 years.

our schools and media openly extol the virtues of every deviant behavior imaginable, all the while blaming religious people for being intolerant. worse the left has double down in the class warfare which has suddenly become a good thing? they blaming the producers in our society and at every opportunity looking for way to punish them. have they never thought of the consequences of such a policy? yes of course utter destruction of our system which works to their advantage.

what should be up is down, and what should be down is up, it is surely end times. there was a time when success is what we all aspired to, now we celebrate those who are able to play the system and get the most free stuff from government handouts while hard workers go without some of the basics to pay the taxes which support the parasites. workers are now the "greedy evil ones," how did this happen?

the united states is already a socialist hell-hole. it is no longer an ideal, but just a country like every other one, better than some or worse than some, but not different as the world has become gripped in leftist ideology, bowing and scraping not to offend the savage who the left pets...and uses.

I console myself in knowing that there will someday be a clash of the titans, a clash between the evil cult that is islam and the evil political system of the left. my hope is that it is long bloody and that they wipe each other out, then maybe this world can pick up the pieces and start again.
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I'm gonna have to give you 1 star for spreading hate.
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