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We accept Obama as our leader. You get up in the morning and you go to work, or stay home and bitch on GLP about rigged elections exercising what's left of your freedom of speech. Why? Because you know what would really happen if you rebelled.

News at 10: Deranged shooter in police stand off shot dead today, new drone program helped save police lives.

It sucks. It sucks, we all hate it. But there you are. You'll say "No, that ain't me. I've got my squad, my militia, we're just waiting." (By the way, saying this is a great way to get a trip to GITMO.)

Waiting for what? Look around you. The police are militarized, mobilized, equipped as well as the army, navy, and the marines. They get the word and suddenly they're showing up on your doorstep in huge numbers with more armor than possibly needed with more ammo than possibly needed and they're not trained to stop after a short burst, to conserve ammo to kill multiple enemies. They're going to shoot at you until you're dead.

Waco, remember that? That'll be you. The new David Koresh, without the charisma, cult, or pieces of ass.

So exercise what's left of your freedom of speech, go to work, or eat your doritos, be the keyboard warrior. Learn to survive in the New World Order. Because, guys? We're the Barbarian Hordes before the Might of Rome

I'm not saying things won't change. It's inevitable that things change. Governments crumble, they evolve. Sometimes drastically, and quickly. It's the nature of governments. History has proven that. I'm just saying that for now freedom has lost. The turning point when things could have been won was passed perhaps 50, or 60 years ago.
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I didn't say where we stood was a place you'd like to be.
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If you aren't willing to take your own rebellion to your own death. Then you just aren't committed to our cause for freedom.
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If you aren't willing to take your own rebellion to your own death. Then you just aren't committed to our cause for freedom.
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cruise Dude, if any of you keyboard warriors actually did something you'd all be declared terrorists and shot dead so quickly it'd be as if your cause never existed.
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We accept Obama as our leader. You get up in the morning and you go to work, or stay home and bitch on GLP about rigged elections exercising what's left of your freedom of speech. Why? Because you know what would really happen if you rebelled.

News at 10: Deranged shooter in police stand off shot dead today, new drone program helped save police lives.

It sucks. It sucks, we all hate it. But there you are. You'll say "No, that ain't me. I've got my squad, my militia, we're just waiting." (By the way, saying this is a great way to get a trip to GITMO.)

Waiting for what? Look around you. The police are militarized, mobilized, equipped as well as the army, navy, and the marines. They get the word and suddenly they're showing up on your doorstep in huge numbers with more armor than possibly needed with more ammo than possibly needed and they're not trained to stop after a short burst, to conserve ammo to kill multiple enemies. They're going to shoot at you until you're dead.

Waco, remember that? That'll be you. The new David Koresh, without the charisma, cult, or pieces of ass.

So exercise what's left of your freedom of speech, go to work, or eat your doritos, be the keyboard warrior. Learn to survive in the New World Order. Because, guys? We're the Barbarian Hordes before the Might of Rome

I'm not saying things won't change. It's inevitable that things change. Governments crumble, they evolve. Sometimes drastically, and quickly. It's the nature of governments. History has proven that. I'm just saying that for now freedom has lost. The turning point when things could have been won was passed perhaps 50, or 60 years ago.
 Quoting: Leslie Zevo


... and Ruby Ridge!
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We accept Obama as our leader. You get up in the morning and you go to work, or stay home and bitch on GLP about rigged elections exercising what's left of your freedom of speech. Why? Because you know what would really happen if you rebelled.

News at 10: Deranged shooter in police stand off shot dead today, new drone program helped save police lives.

It sucks. It sucks, we all hate it. But there you are. You'll say "No, that ain't me. I've got my squad, my militia, we're just waiting." (By the way, saying this is a great way to get a trip to GITMO.)

Waiting for what? Look around you. The police are militarized, mobilized, equipped as well as the army, navy, and the marines. They get the word and suddenly they're showing up on your doorstep in huge numbers with more armor than possibly needed with more ammo than possibly needed and they're not trained to stop after a short burst, to conserve ammo to kill multiple enemies. They're going to shoot at you until you're dead.

Waco, remember that? That'll be you. The new David Koresh, without the charisma, cult, or pieces of ass.

So exercise what's left of your freedom of speech, go to work, or eat your doritos, be the keyboard warrior. Learn to survive in the New World Order. Because, guys? We're the Barbarian Hordes before the Might of Rome

I'm not saying things won't change. It's inevitable that things change. Governments crumble, they evolve. Sometimes drastically, and quickly. It's the nature of governments. History has proven that. I'm just saying that for now freedom has lost. The turning point when things could have been won was passed perhaps 50, or 60 years ago.
 Quoting: Leslie Zevo


... and Ruby Ridge!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26636255


Yeah, pretty much. By militarizing the police they got around a loophole about not using soldiers to police the US.

By banning so many kinds of military weapons from civilian homes they then made sure the police weapons were more advanced.

They're going to continue doing this until pretty much all you're allowed to have are bolt rifles.

It's not going to be a popular post, but it had to be said.
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Die man.
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This must be a shill post because it is so wrong. Americas elite military couldn't even control Iraq. The military isn't what they want you to think it is.

What was Americas big military success? WW2. Do you realize that Germany would have kicked our asses if they weren't loosing so many troops in Russia. Germany would have kicked America out of Europe just like they did to Britain.

Back to the topic. A patriotic insurgency will win over the military ordered to attack the very citizens it swore to defend. This is as long as the fight by the people is for right,not for TPTB.

Has the military ever attacked Americans? YES. Can they win a all out war? NO.
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If you aren't willing to take your own rebellion to your own death. Then you just aren't committed to our cause for freedom.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14988403


cruise Dude, if any of you keyboard warriors actually did something you'd all be declared terrorists and shot dead so quickly it'd be as if your cause never existed.
 Quoting: Leslie Zevo


Which is why we can lead people around like Leslie on a stick.

Like putting a blindfold on a retarded kid.

It's all just a fun game and everyone has had the same opportunity to be at the top.

Don't let the fires nip you.
My magic is both from Source and Soul. I love everything for what it is...a means to an end. I love the fact we are all puzzle pieces to a Grand Master Design.

Oh God, where art though? Why must our souls be shards, is it a dirty trick or lesson or a test?

Our free will is nearly begotten.
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This must be a shill post because it is so wrong. Americas elite military couldn't even control Iraq. The military isn't what they want you to think it is.

What was Americas big military success? WW2. Do you realize that Germany would have kicked our asses if they weren't loosing so many troops in Russia. Germany would have kicked America out of Europe just like they did to Britain.

Back to the topic. A patriotic insurgency will win over the military ordered to attack the very citizens it swore to defend. This is as long as the fight by the people is for right,not for TPTB.

Has the military ever attacked Americans? YES. Can they win a all out war? NO.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1110452


Between the police, the Army, and the Air Force. Yes, they can win.

Telling you the truth as you do not wish to hear it does not make me a shill.

Also fooling yourself into believing you're immortal is a bad idea.
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Hearts and Minds
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Hearts and Minds
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Hearts and minds can win a war, yes. But as it stands too many are hooked on entertainment and mcdonalds.
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If you aren't willing to take your own rebellion to your own death. Then you just aren't committed to our cause for freedom.
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cruise Dude, if any of you keyboard warriors actually did something you'd all be declared terrorists and shot dead so quickly it'd be as if your cause never existed.
 Quoting: Leslie Zevo


If anything, that is more of an argument for deadly rebellion than against it. The real question is how enslaved are we willing to become before death is no longer a strong enough deterrent from resistance?

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This must be a shill post because it is so wrong. Americas elite military couldn't even control Iraq. The military isn't what they want you to think it is.

What was Americas big military success? WW2. Do you realize that Germany would have kicked our asses if they weren't loosing so many troops in Russia. Germany would have kicked America out of Europe just like they did to Britain.

Back to the topic. A patriotic insurgency will win over the military ordered to attack the very citizens it swore to defend. This is as long as the fight by the people is for right,not for TPTB.

Has the military ever attacked Americans? YES. Can they win a all out war? NO.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1110452


Between the police, the Army, and the Air Force. Yes, they can win.

Telling you the truth as you do not wish to hear it does not make me a shill.

Also fooling yourself into believing you're immortal is a bad idea.
 Quoting: Leslie Zevo


You are so very brain washed to be a looser. We are over 300 million strong. In a riot,cops run away. Americas military can only fight a war that has defined lines. Attack from the rear,cut off supply lines,attack from within.

I hope it never comes down to this,but history has proven that a war of attrition doesn't work.

By the way,how did North Vietnam win? Oh,that's right,Nixon said it was a tie with honor. LMAO.
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Hearts and minds. LMAO. That is another Vietnam era dogma that didn't work and never will.
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If you aren't willing to take your own rebellion to your own death. Then you just aren't committed to our cause for freedom.
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cruise Dude, if any of you keyboard warriors actually did something you'd all be declared terrorists and shot dead so quickly it'd be as if your cause never existed.
 Quoting: Leslie Zevo


They declare YOU a terrorist. Doesn't mean you are one.

What would YOU declare yourself as, your founding fathers, etc.


It is simple. A revolution is only illegal if you fail.
Do your absolute best and the rest is fate.
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Re: Let me tell you where we really stand.
If you aren't willing to take your own rebellion to your own death. Then you just aren't committed to our cause for freedom.
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cruise Dude, if any of you keyboard warriors actually did something you'd all be declared terrorists and shot dead so quickly it'd be as if your cause never existed.
 Quoting: Leslie Zevo


That's the point if everyone was committed to that cause are you going to slaughter us all. Futility is what it is.
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Hearts and Minds
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Hearts and minds can win a war, yes. But as it stands too many are hooked on entertainment and mcdonalds.
 Quoting: Leslie Zevo


True, I look around and most are obese and drugged up on meds. it's not funny... people don't want to give up their "comforts" they rather stay comfortable numb with their handouts!
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I love the idea of what America should be. I hate what America really is. Our military is a fighting force for corporations that have bought politicians. It is that simple.
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I love the idea of what America should be. I hate what America really is. Our military is a fighting force for corporations that have bought politicians. It is that simple.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1110452


America will be that which it is meant to be, so much effort to destroy tells us something about its nature. Shame my ancestors were not on a boat i would love to be there with you.
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Good article! ... It did seem like there were more hunters around this year! :o)

But, like it said...

"As long as the American Hunter retains his right to Bear Arms, America will forever be safe from foreign invasion of troops."

That's the trick.. retain the right to Bear Arms!
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We accept Obama as our leader. You get up in the morning and you go to work, or stay home and bitch on GLP about rigged elections exercising what's left of your freedom of speech. Why? Because you know what would really happen if you rebelled.

News at 10: Deranged shooter in police stand off shot dead today, new drone program helped save police lives.

It sucks. It sucks, we all hate it. But there you are. You'll say "No, that ain't me. I've got my squad, my militia, we're just waiting." (By the way, saying this is a great way to get a trip to GITMO.)

Waiting for what? Look around you. The police are militarized, mobilized, equipped as well as the army, navy, and the marines. They get the word and suddenly they're showing up on your doorstep in huge numbers with more armor than possibly needed with more ammo than possibly needed and they're not trained to stop after a short burst, to conserve ammo to kill multiple enemies. They're going to shoot at you until you're dead.

Waco, remember that? That'll be you. The new David Koresh, without the charisma, cult, or pieces of ass.

So exercise what's left of your freedom of speech, go to work, or eat your doritos, be the keyboard warrior. Learn to survive in the New World Order. Because, guys? We're the Barbarian Hordes before the Might of Rome

I'm not saying things won't change. It's inevitable that things change. Governments crumble, they evolve. Sometimes drastically, and quickly. It's the nature of governments. History has proven that. I'm just saying that for now freedom has lost. The turning point when things could have been won was passed perhaps 50, or 60 years ago.
 Quoting: Leslie Zevo


I agree it sucks. To play devils advocate just for a moment though. The founders never had to deal with nukes...

I'm Not trying to defend NDAA or any of that. I'm just saying, that's what's up with the lock down.
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Good article! ... It did seem like there were more hunters around this year! :o)

But, like it said...

"As long as the American Hunter retains his right to Bear Arms, America will forever be safe from foreign invasion of troops."

That's the trick.. retain the right to Bear Arms!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26636255


Yes keep your guns America there are enemies all around now they want to snuff out freedom. I will die on my feet with you. Although i have no way to protect myself from tyranny i will not submit in spirit. I am with you.
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One Brit who gets it!
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I love the idea of what America should be. I hate what America really is. Our military is a fighting force for corporations that have bought politicians. It is that simple.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1110452


America will be that which it is meant to be, so much effort to destroy tells us something about its nature. Shame my ancestors were not on a boat i would love to be there with you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14988403


Understand this. It is the rich,corporate owners that have been the usurpers of Americas politicians that set our military course. Just like they do in Britain.
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This must be a shill post because it is so wrong. Americas elite military couldn't even control Iraq. The military isn't what they want you to think it is.

What was Americas big military success? WW2. Do you realize that Germany would have kicked our asses if they weren't loosing so many troops in Russia. Germany would have kicked America out of Europe just like they did to Britain.

Back to the topic. A patriotic insurgency will win over the military ordered to attack the very citizens it swore to defend. This is as long as the fight by the people is for right,not for TPTB.

Has the military ever attacked Americans? YES. Can they win a all out war? NO.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1110452


Between the police, the Army, and the Air Force. Yes, they can win.

Telling you the truth as you do not wish to hear it does not make me a shill.

Also fooling yourself into believing you're immortal is a bad idea.
 Quoting: Leslie Zevo


You are so very brain washed to be a looser. We are over 300 million strong. In a riot,cops run away. Americas military can only fight a war that has defined lines. Attack from the rear,cut off supply lines,attack from within.

I hope it never comes down to this,but history has proven that a war of attrition doesn't work.

By the way,how did North Vietnam win? Oh,that's right,Nixon said it was a tie with honor. LMAO.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1110452


Vietnam is another topic, we were not allowed to finish the job.
But going on body count, we won. If that's any sort of victory.
But I agree, cutting supply lines is very,very,important.
Disrupting them will be of great essence.
Gorilla warfare
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When you don't love this world or anything in it, things like what you describe won't bother you. You 'know' in your spirit that your body is just a 'vehicle' that allows you to get around on this planet. You 'know' when it dies, your spirit will continue to live on.

Very few people are REALLY happy with anything that is going on in the world these days. It's gotten so bad that anything looks better than the world we have here on this earth....hf
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If you aren't willing to take your own rebellion to your own death. Then you just aren't committed to our cause for freedom.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14988403


cruise Dude, if any of you keyboard warriors actually did something you'd all be declared terrorists and shot dead so quickly it'd be as if your cause never existed.
 Quoting: Leslie Zevo


If anything, that is more of an argument for deadly rebellion than against it. The real question is how enslaved are we willing to become before death is no longer a strong enough deterrent from resistance?
 Quoting: Rising Son


Good question. I think we're about to find out.
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When you don't love this world or anything in it, things like what you describe won't bother you. You 'know' in your spirit that your body is just a 'vehicle' that allows you to get around on this planet. You 'know' when it dies, your spirit will continue to live on.

Very few people are REALLY happy with anything that is going on in the world these days. It's gotten so bad that anything looks better than the world we have here on this earth....hf
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Indeed. I recognize that there is suffering, I do my best to alleviate it, but I'll not contribute to suffering for either side of a conflict.
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This must be a shill post because it is so wrong. Americas elite military couldn't even control Iraq. The military isn't what they want you to think it is.

What was Americas big military success? WW2. Do you realize that Germany would have kicked our asses if they weren't loosing so many troops in Russia. Germany would have kicked America out of Europe just like they did to Britain.

Back to the topic. A patriotic insurgency will win over the military ordered to attack the very citizens it swore to defend. This is as long as the fight by the people is for right,not for TPTB.

Has the military ever attacked Americans? YES. Can they win a all out war? NO.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1110452


Between the police, the Army, and the Air Force. Yes, they can win.

Telling you the truth as you do not wish to hear it does not make me a shill.

Also fooling yourself into believing you're immortal is a bad idea.
 Quoting: Leslie Zevo


You are so very brain washed to be a looser. We are over 300 million strong. In a riot,cops run away. Americas military can only fight a war that has defined lines. Attack from the rear,cut off supply lines,attack from within.

I hope it never comes down to this,but history has proven that a war of attrition doesn't work.

By the way,how did North Vietnam win? Oh,that's right,Nixon said it was a tie with honor. LMAO.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1110452


Vietnam is another topic, we were not allowed to finish the job.
But going on body count, we won. If that's any sort of victory.
But I agree, cutting supply lines is very,very,important.
Disrupting them will be of great essence.
Gorilla warfare
 Quoting: TheCartel


It's much more simple than that. You were on the right track with hearts and minds. I see only one way to win your rebellion, and guerilla warfare would only prolong your inevitable loss.

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