There is LIFE in the Blood

I sit here and read all the other thread titles, and tonight, they don't matter to me--I am numb to any other subject right now and truly have no interest in anything other than the truth about who I am, in Christ, and where I am heading.

Any thought perceived in deliverance from this "place" is a soothing salve to my soul.

Last Edited by KoFFee_ on 12/09/2012 12:39 AM

OP, thanks for this wonderful thread. Our Lord is truely Great!!.

Is this the reason why some pregnant women with AIDS do not pass on the disease to their offspring?

THERE IS POWER IN THE BLOOD.wmv


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Incredible Information Koffee :)

Thank you!

Could be, seeing that the mother and baby do not share the same blood supply.

Research has shown that the majority of babies who pick up HIV infection from their mothers probably acquire the virus during the birth process.

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John Piper writes:

The problem with the human race is not most deeply that everybody does various kinds of sins—those sins are real, they are huge and they are enough to condemn us.

Paul is very concerned about them. But the deepest problem is that behind all our depravity and all our guilt and all our sinning, there is a deep mysterious connection with Adam whose sin became our sin and whose judgment became our judgment.

God ordains that that there be a union of some kind that makes Adam's sin to be our sin so that our condemnation is just.

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We sin because we have a sin nature that was passed on to us and that inclines us in the direction of sin,
but Adam was directly created from God with no sin nature, and thus no propensity to sin.

What impelled him to sin?

Hey OP...you really need to read this book if you haven't already...you are on the right track.

[link to archive.org]

Please take no offense, but what little I know about this book clashes with my spirit and I must be careful of what I read.

Prayer to the Heavenly Father, through His Son, trusting Him for guidance and reading His Word will provide me with all I need to know.

Thanks for taking the time to offer me another avenue which you thought might be helpful.

My new word for today--traducianism--never heard of this before.

Another interesting read that I do not have time to absorb right now, as I have to do some errands.

But I will return to it later.

Here is a little snip:

Traducianism (the word “traduce” means, “to carry over”) is the position that the
human soul is passed down from parent to child—though the precise means for
doing this is unknown.

It may help us to understand how the entire human race fell when Adam sinned.

If soul is passed down from parent to child, then working backwards, at one time
all the soul of the human family was in Adam (in unindividuated form); thus, in
Adam all of the human family fell.

While this line of reasoning might seem strange from a modern perspective,
we have to remember that it must be viewed from the divine perspective.

According to the traducian view, we have in us (in individuated form) a portion of the same soulishness that was in Adam.
As such,we have inherited a fallen soul with a sin nature. So, we are what Adam became: sinful.

While this may be difficult for us to accept, there is a strong biblical basis for this view.
In Hebrews 7:4-10 the writer makes the point than when Abraham
paid tithes to Melchizedek, Levi, who wouldn’t be born for several generations,
was still within Abraham (seminally), and thus Levi paid tithes to Melchizedek!

This is a highly significant case because the writer of Hebrews argues that an
action was attributable (really and substantively) to one who had yet to have an
individual existence. Again, the challenge is to be open to see this from God’s
perspective.

[link to www.biblicalreader.com]

Interesting...

Hi my good friend

That is some fascinating stuff!

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Adam was created in God's Image - meaning the Godhead. Father, Son, Holy SPirit. Don't have the reference, but someone can find where the scripture says, "Let Us make man in OUR IMAGE."

Later, after the fall, we read that Adam and Eve bore children in THEIR image (a fallen, sinful image).

So, to a poster who posed the question earlier in this thread, YES, I believe our DNA was changed (in Adam) after the fall.

What impelled Adam to sin? Easy answer: FREE WILL.

Thanks Koffee


It is always a breathe of fresh air when you visit.





David

Yes, Adam was created with a free will (the ability to
freely make moral choices), he had within him the God-given ability to move in either moral direction.

This was an incredible ability!

Today, man no longer has an absolutely free will, as Adam and Eve had. He has
a will, and he does exercise choice, but because of his fallen nature, his choices
have become limited to that which is consistent with his nature.

From his vantage point, man appears to exercise a free will, but only from a limited range of options
(i.e., the choices consistent with a fallen nature that is hostile to God).

For example, prior to the fall Adam could have chosen to do a truly righteous act, but the natural (unregenerated) person is incapable of producing righteousness
(Rom. 8:5-8).

A righteous deed is motivated from a heart that sincerely desires to please God above all else. Even redeemed people can perform righteous deeds only with the enabling of the indwelling Holy Spirit (Rom. 8:9-10).

Makes sense...that explains the rh positive blood types, who's blood contains mostly iron. What about the rh negatives, who's blood is mostly copper based? And missing the RhD barrier around red blood cells.

Are you washed in the Blood?

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:sgh:

The combination of iron + oxygen gives blood it's bright red color. Red blood carries oxygen to each cell, which is necessary to give each cell energy in the form of ATP.

Oxygen (air/spirit) is transported by the blood (the messenger) to the body.

That was excellent--I loved it!

Mr. Griswold is wonderful at the piano and I admire anyone who knows how to play the saxophone.

Thanks for the post!

Yes, I read that an essential component of red blood cells is hemoglobin, which can hold oxygen so the cells can then transport around the body. This process is what gives the body energy. It went on to say that people who suffer with anemia--low count of red blood cells--often feel tired and sleepy.

The following came from the link posted below:

A raised red cell count is called Polycythaemia.

The main problem caused by polycythaemia is that the high number of red cells increases the blood's 'thickness' (viscosity). Blood flow to organs is reduced and, rarely, blood clots can form.

There are many symptoms that can be a feature of increased blood thickness but these are often rather vague. They include:

a ruddy complexion
headache
blurred vision or patchy loss of vision
confusion
in extreme cases, stroke or coma.

The risk of clotting (thrombosis) increases if you have other risk factors for blood vessel disease such as previous clot, high blood pressure, raised cholesterol or diabetes.

Read more:
[link to www.netdoctor.co.uk]

As noted in an above post, I had to leave just as I learned a new word--traducianism.

It is one of the major views on how man obtains his soul.

What I was reading this morning is that the traducian theory may help to explain the necessity of the virgin conception of Christ.

If the sin nature is passed through the male, the avoidance of natural conception could have been the means through which God supernaturally brought his Son into the world without sin.

While it is generally believed that there is a causal connection between the virgin conception and Christ’s sinlessness, we should note that such a connection is not actually stated in the Bible.

The other view is creationism.

The theory of creationism says that for each newly conceived child, God creates a perfect, sinless soul, which will eventually be joined to the physical nature propagated by the parents.

Creationists are divided as to when the soul is joined to the physical nature; some believe the union of soul and body occurs at conception and others that it occurs later, perhaps at birth.

Where traducianism says the soul is generated along with the body at procreation, creationism would teach that God creates the soul in the person at conception.

Which view (creationism or traducianism) do you think makes the most sense?

Outstanding OP! You are posting on one of the most important spiritual revelations in the Bible.

"For the life of the flesh is in the blood...for it is the blood that makes atonement for the soul" Leviticus 17:11

"And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life: and man became a living soul" (Gen. 2:7).

I see why christians think abortion is wrong.
The idea that cells are alive means that the sperm and the egg are alive. At no point does the initial "breath of god" get interrupted, there is no point where there is not an alive cell. This would end the arguement of when does the offspring begin to live and abortion can no longer be done.