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Were any of Christ's current disciples ever part of the churches of Christendom?

 
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Were any of Christ's current disciples ever part of the churches of Christendom?
"After these things I saw another angel descending from heaven, with great authority; and the earth was lighted up from his glory. 2 And he cried out with a strong voice, saying: “She has fallen! Babylon the Great has fallen, and she has become a dwelling place of demons and a lurking place of every unclean exhalation and a lurking place of every unclean and hated bird! 3 For because of the wine of the anger of her fornication all the nations have fallen [victim], and the kings of the earth committed fornication with her, and the traveling merchants of the earth became rich due to the power of her shameless luxury.”
4 And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, my people, if YOU do not want to share with her in her sins, and if YOU do not want to receive part of her plagues. 5 For her sins have massed together clear up to heaven, and God has called her acts of injustice to mind. 6 Render to her even as she herself rendered, and do to her twice as much, yes, twice the number of the things she did; in the cup in which she put a mixture put twice as much of the mixture for her. 7 To the extent that she glorified herself and lived in shameless luxury, to that extent give her torment and mourning. For in her heart she keeps saying, ‘I sit a queen, and I am no widow, and I shall never see mourning.’ 8 That is why in one day her plagues will come, death and mourning and famine, and she will be completely burned with fire, because Jehovah God, who judged her, is strong." Rv18:4
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Your question in the title of your thread has nothing to do with the verses you quoted. The verses you quoted are talking about The United States of America.

As far as the question posed in the title of the thread, yes Peter was the rock of the church. For the simple every day man of little faith to comprehend christianity, we has to go with the simple minded in mind and the religion had to be very parental in nature. It also had to be run by the Catholics with great power. If it was not then the religion would have been lost completely, or altered into oblivion by the secret society gnostic influences or another ruling power that would have genocided christians. The catholics preserved it well until it was strong enough to get it out from under their wing with the protestants. The catholics were bad and they altered the religion but the motivations were easy to see, money and power, and were easily reversed when the time was right.
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Re: Were any of Christ's current disciples ever part of the churches of Christendom?
I'd consult Mr. Charles Taze Russell on that one.

Seems he had an in with God that no one prior nor since has had. That would make him a very special snowflake.

We'll henceforth refer to both him and his followers as "flakes".
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Re: Were any of Christ's current disciples ever part of the churches of Christendom?
Is this what you mean?:

Acts 11:26

And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.
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Re: Were any of Christ's current disciples ever part of the churches of Christendom?
Your question in the title of your thread has nothing to do with the verses you quoted. The verses you quoted are talking about The United States of America.

As far as the question posed in the title of the thread, yes Peter was the rock of the church. For the simple every day man of little faith to comprehend christianity, we has to go with the simple minded in mind and the religion had to be very parental in nature. It also had to be run by the Catholics with great power. If it was not then the religion would have been lost completely, or altered into oblivion by the secret society gnostic influences or another ruling power that would have genocided christians. The catholics preserved it well until it was strong enough to get it out from under their wing with the protestants. The catholics were bad and they altered the religion but the motivations were easy to see, money and power, and were easily reversed when the time was right.
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QUOTE; "The verses you quoted are talking about The United States of America
"
Rv18:4 instructs God's people, not any component of Satan's military industrial complex.
Here is God's exposure of the Catholic church and it's popes;
"Let no one seduce YOU in any manner, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction. 4 He is set in opposition and lifts himself up over everyone who is called “god” or an object of reverence, so that he sits down in the temple of The God, publicly showing himself to be a god. 5 Do YOU not remember that, while I was yet with YOU, I used to tell YOU these things?
6 And so now YOU know the thing that acts as a restraint, with a view to his being revealed in his own due time. 7 True, the mystery of this lawlessness is already at work; but only till he who is right now acting as a restraint gets to be out of the way. 8 Then, indeed, the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will do away with by the spirit of his mouth and bring to nothing by the manifestation of his presence. 9 But the lawless one’s presence is according to the operation of Satan with every powerful work and lying signs and portents 10 and with every unrighteous deception for those who are perishing, as a retribution because they did not accept the love of the truth that they might be saved. 11 So that is why God lets an operation of error go to them, that they may get to believing the lie, 12 in order that they all may be judged because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness." 2Thes2:3
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Re: Were any of Christ's current disciples ever part of the churches of Christendom?
I'd consult Mr. Charles Taze Russell on that one.

Seems he had an in with God that no one prior nor since has had. That would make him a very special snowflake.

We'll henceforth refer to both him and his followers as "flakes".
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Charles Russel was called 'pastor' in those days but was never part of Christendom. He was the first to expose the blasphemous threat of hell fire and inspired his associates to share their bible studies freely with others.

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Re: Were any of Christ's current disciples ever part of the churches of Christendom?
Your question in the title of your thread has nothing to do with the verses you quoted. The verses you quoted are talking about The United States of America.

As far as the question posed in the title of the thread, yes Peter was the rock of the church. For the simple every day man of little faith to comprehend christianity, we has to go with the simple minded in mind and the religion had to be very parental in nature. It also had to be run by the Catholics with great power. If it was not then the religion would have been lost completely, or altered into oblivion by the secret society gnostic influences or another ruling power that would have genocided christians. The catholics preserved it well until it was strong enough to get it out from under their wing with the protestants. The catholics were bad and they altered the religion but the motivations were easy to see, money and power, and were easily reversed when the time was right.
 Quoting: Mike Hawk


QUOTE; "The verses you quoted are talking about The United States of America
"
Rv18:4 instructs God's people, not any component of Satan's military industrial complex.
Here is God's exposure of the Catholic church and it's popes;
"Let no one seduce YOU in any manner, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction. 4 He is set in opposition and lifts himself up over everyone who is called “god” or an object of reverence, so that he sits down in the temple of The God, publicly showing himself to be a god. 5 Do YOU not remember that, while I was yet with YOU, I used to tell YOU these things?
6 And so now YOU know the thing that acts as a restraint, with a view to his being revealed in his own due time. 7 True, the mystery of this lawlessness is already at work; but only till he who is right now acting as a restraint gets to be out of the way. 8 Then, indeed, the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will do away with by the spirit of his mouth and bring to nothing by the manifestation of his presence. 9 But the lawless one’s presence is according to the operation of Satan with every powerful work and lying signs and portents 10 and with every unrighteous deception for those who are perishing, as a retribution because they did not accept the love of the truth that they might be saved. 11 So that is why God lets an operation of error go to them, that they may get to believing the lie, 12 in order that they all may be judged because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness." 2Thes2:3
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You realize your entire post means nothing. Unfortunately you have been masonified like most modern christians.Idol1
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Re: Were any of Christ's current disciples ever part of the churches of Christendom?
Your question in the title of your thread has nothing to do with the verses you quoted. The verses you quoted are talking about The United States of America.

As far as the question posed in the title of the thread, yes Peter was the rock of the church. For the simple every day man of little faith to comprehend christianity, we has to go with the simple minded in mind and the religion had to be very parental in nature. It also had to be run by the Catholics with great power. If it was not then the religion would have been lost completely, or altered into oblivion by the secret society gnostic influences or another ruling power that would have genocided christians. The catholics preserved it well until it was strong enough to get it out from under their wing with the protestants. The catholics were bad and they altered the religion but the motivations were easy to see, money and power, and were easily reversed when the time was right.
 Quoting: Mike Hawk


QUOTE; "The verses you quoted are talking about The United States of America
"
Rv18:4 instructs God's people, not any component of Satan's military industrial complex.
Here is God's exposure of the Catholic church and it's popes;
"Let no one seduce YOU in any manner, because it will not come unless the apostasy comes first and the man of lawlessness gets revealed, the son of destruction. 4 He is set in opposition and lifts himself up over everyone who is called “god” or an object of reverence, so that he sits down in the temple of The God, publicly showing himself to be a god. 5 Do YOU not remember that, while I was yet with YOU, I used to tell YOU these things?
6 And so now YOU know the thing that acts as a restraint, with a view to his being revealed in his own due time. 7 True, the mystery of this lawlessness is already at work; but only till he who is right now acting as a restraint gets to be out of the way. 8 Then, indeed, the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will do away with by the spirit of his mouth and bring to nothing by the manifestation of his presence. 9 But the lawless one’s presence is according to the operation of Satan with every powerful work and lying signs and portents 10 and with every unrighteous deception for those who are perishing, as a retribution because they did not accept the love of the truth that they might be saved. 11 So that is why God lets an operation of error go to them, that they may get to believing the lie, 12 in order that they all may be judged because they did not believe the truth but took pleasure in unrighteousness." 2Thes2:3
 Quoting: DGN




You realize your entire post means nothing. Unfortunately you have been masonified like most modern christians.Idol1
 Quoting: Mike Hawk


God's word was not intended to be understood by anyone other than Jesus' disciples;
"A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his servants the things that must shortly take place. And he sent forth his angel and presented [it] in signs through him to his servant John, 2 who bore witness to the word God gave and to the witness Jesus Christ gave, even to all the things he saw. 3 Happy is he who reads aloud and those who hear the words of this prophecy, and who observe the things written in it; for the appointed time is near.
4 John to the seven congregations that are in the [district of] Asia:
May YOU have undeserved kindness and peace from “The One who is and who was and who is coming,” and from the seven spirits that are before his throne, 5 and from Jesus Christ, “the Faithful Witness,” “The firstborn from the dead,” and “The Ruler of the kings of the earth.” Rv1:1

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