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is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?

 
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Dumbing down the whole thing, as I did understand, the Sun's ecliptic plan is going to align with the center of the Milky Way's equator, forming a cross with a inclination of 60 degrees.

I don't have stomach to look more into websites "explaining" the alignment under a mystic-esoteric perspective.

Hard to find someone who explains it strictly under an astronomical perspective.
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I would like to know how Nibiru fits into this Galactic alignment. Anyone have that info. ?

Good thread OP! I'll have a cup of coffee as well and keep searching.


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From what I was told many years ago is that we will have the 3 days of darkness at this time when we are passing through this. However we have never been there before, or at least not that WE as humans know of, and that on the other side of the "Plate" We do not know what is there, this is where I believe Nibiru may be if it really does exist, which we have no proof of, but if we pass through this so called plate area, we will find out many things. including far more meteors from what a friend told me far more planets in that area, and so much more. I guess we will find out once we get there.
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
I watched some special on H2 about the lost book of Nostradamus and the interpretation of his prophetic drawings. One of these was this alignment, in the image of an 8 point wheel. He explained it pretty easily.

So either google this eight spoked wheel nostradamus

Or try to find that show to watch....
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
You know it really doesnt matter.. 1st I dont think anything will happen..2ed and if something bad does, then I am not scared to die,because Im saved by the blood of Christ I will go to Heaven..
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
Ok, this is my understanding of the issue.

1.) The earth spins around it's own axis
2.) The earth orbits around the sun.

This 26000 year event has to do with 1.), as the spin is "loose" in the sense that the imaginary "spindle" the earth is rotating around is itself in a circular motion (one analogy is a the movement of a gyroscope as it is about to lose it's balance and then regaining it). And it is this circular motion of the imaginary spindle that is now approaching one whole revolution around.
 Quoting: Bondeknoll


The wobble (as they call it) of the Earth's axis is a slow circular movement (with respect to the celestial sphere aka the "fixed" stars). It has a period of 26000 years. The declination of the galactic center is at -29 degrees from the celestial equator, thus the Earth axis doesn't align somehow with the galactic center. So there is no connection of precession (wobble) of the axis and the (almost) 26000 period with any kind of alignment with the galactic center.
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
The Earth is spinning at an angle of 22 degrees relative to the plane of the planets and sun. The axis of rotation wobbles like a top, but very slowly. The axis itself rotates around a circle that takes 26,000 years to complete.

Because of the wobble, the Winter solstice points at different constellations throughout the 26,000 year cycle.
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There ya go.
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
think of the solar system as being like one of those horses on a fairground ride, constantly going up and down

when the horse is at it's lowest point and highest point, is when we're well away from trouble

when it's at the mid point is when we're in shit up to our necks

that's December 21

whether or not we all die depends on mother earth NOT swallowing some of that brown sticky stuff

am i over simplifying this now? lol
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That explanation works perfectly well for me. Thanks!
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
The Earth is spinning at an angle of 22 degrees relative to the plane of the planets and sun. The axis of rotation wobbles like a top, but very slowly. The axis itself rotates around a circle that takes 26,000 years to complete.

Because of the wobble, the Winter solstice points at different constellations throughout the 26,000 year cycle.
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There ya go.
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Yeah, but it won't get out of pointing Polaris (and thus Ursa Minor) in the next few days. So, no weird alignment doom....
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
There is no special alignment happening on the 21st.

It's the same as the one that happens every year.

Do some research OP.

It's just hype to add to the 2012 bullshit.
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
There is no special alignment happening on the 21st.

It's the same as the one that happens every year.

Do some research OP.

It's just hype to add to the 2012 bullshit.
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yes, there is actually. from a larger perspective. there is something different that will align. so there.

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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
There is no special alignment happening on the 21st.

It's the same as the one that happens every year.

Do some research OP.

It's just hype to add to the 2012 bullshit.
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Yes, but they only have a few days to sell books, survival (from what?the "end of the world") kits and other shit that will be proven total garbage by 22nd of December.
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
The Earth is spinning at an angle of 22 degrees relative to the plane of the planets and sun. The axis of rotation wobbles like a top, but very slowly. The axis itself rotates around a circle that takes 26,000 years to complete.

Because of the wobble, the Winter solstice points at different constellations throughout the 26,000 year cycle.
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There ya go.
 Quoting: Madigan


i understand that, i think.
what i really need is a holodeck to go on and for their to be a huge projection of this all around me so i can interact with it in a 3d way.

dammit.
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
Read about the Great Year (or Perfect Year) and Hipparchus

[link to www.astro.cornell.edu]
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Dumbing down the whole thing, as I did understand, the Sun's ecliptic plan is going to align with the center of the Milky Way's equator, forming a cross with a inclination of 60 degrees.

I don't have stomach to look more into websites "explaining" the alignment under a mystic-esoteric perspective.

Hard to find someone who explains it strictly under an astronomical perspective.
 Quoting: UndercoverAlien




It's the first time I see any images about this "alignment" that make any sense, thanks...


But I still don't understand it completely...


Let me see if I understand: the Sun crosses the "Galactic Equator" every year. BUT, it doesn't always happen in the same day as the Winter Solstice (Northern Hemisphere).

So, what's special about 2012 is that the Sun will "cross the Galactic Equator" in the same day as the Winter Solstice?

Something like that, or am I completey lost?
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
Here's an easy illustration to understand what the "wobble"
part is.... a lot of people don't get that part when you try
to explain it.


That the answer to this question is primarily astronomical in nature is supported by two important clues. First, the calendar restarts on the winter solstice, an astronomical event. Second, the overall length of the calendar is related to the precession of the earth, another astronomical phenomenon. Precession is the very slow wobble of the earth. Remember, the earth is spinning on its axis and this axis of rotation is tilted. When we observe the direction that this axis is pointing, we see that the entire earth wobbles like a top that is not standing straight up. Again, this is called precession and it takes about 26,000 years for the earth to complete one wobble. By the way, this 26,000-year period is sometimes called “the great year.”
[link to www.grahamhancock.com]


FYI... I don't believe ET created the Mayan calendar....this just happens
to be a good explanation of the 26,000 year cycle.

And I don't believe 12/12/12 is the end. tounge
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
Read about the Great Year (or Perfect Year) and Hipparchus

[link to www.astro.cornell.edu]
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Ostria1



And???

The Great Year exists, it's related to the precession of the equinoxes...

BUT, who determines when this Great Year "ends" or "begins"???

It's completely arbitrary...
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
and how this alignment is NOT the same as the one that happens every year on the winter solstice.

any advice for a good page to send people to to read about this?

because this nasa thing:
[link to www.nasa.gov]

bugs me how nasa says " Each December the Earth and sun align with the approximate center of the Milky Way Galaxy but that is an annual event of no consequence." but that is not what alignment people are talking about in 2012. it really is an alignment that happens every 26,000 years. i'm trying to find a page that will describe it accurately and simply. but yes, this is disinfo in that yes, what they say is true, BUT what they fail to leave out is that the mayan calendar is not referring to this annual alignment.

and i would like a simple page i can point to for my friends to understand because i am having a hard time explaining it.
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There is a website with an interactive solar system and a slider which rotates the planets positions through days and years and i cant for the life in me think where to find it but i hope my explanation helps someone to know what i'm talking about because it will be ideal for an example of what your looking for
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
The Earth is spinning at an angle of 22 degrees relative to the plane of the planets and sun. The axis of rotation wobbles like a top, but very slowly. The axis itself rotates around a circle that takes 26,000 years to complete.

Because of the wobble, the Winter solstice points at different constellations throughout the 26,000 year cycle.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 754169


There ya go.
 Quoting: Madigan


i understand that, i think.
what i really need is a holodeck to go on and for their to be a huge projection of this all around me so i can interact with it in a 3d way.

dammit.
 Quoting: pink cat


That.... would be cool.

Just scour Graham Hancock's site....read "Fingerprints of the Gods"
if you haven't already. He explains it all so handily.
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
"the change"

everything is alive,
the alignment of centers
think outside and inside,
big and small; chakras.

hf
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
Its so easy to understand, every 26000 years the earth does a reset.

Mankind will get virtually wiped out as will all technology.

The few that remain will rebuild the civilizations that in another 26000 years time will get wiped out again.


Simples

hf
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btw, i am not saying dec 21st is the end or a doomsday or whatever. i just want to be able to understand this alignment.

from what i have gathered so far, it seems that right now we have been viewing the milky way from a particular angle for the last 26,000 years and on dec 21st we will be on our journey to seeing the milky way from the "other side" of it.

so we will be seeing the opposite side of the milky way because we are passing through it.

something like that.

and some pizzas.
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
Its so easy to understand, every 26000 years the earth does a reset.

Mankind will get virtually wiped out as will all technology.

The few that remain will rebuild the civilizations that in another 26000 years time will get wiped out again.


Simples

hf
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Proof???
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btw, i am not saying dec 21st is the end or a doomsday or whatever. i just want to be able to understand this alignment.

from what i have gathered so far, it seems that right now we have been viewing the milky way from a particular angle for the last 26,000 years and on dec 21st we will be on our journey to seeing the milky way from the "other side" of it.

so we will be seeing the opposite side of the milky way because we are passing through it.

something like that.

and some pizzas.
 Quoting: pink cat



I don't think it works they way you're saying...

The precession is a complete cycle that lasts AROUND 26000 years...

BUT, there is no way to determine when this cycle "starts" and "ends"...

In 2012, the position of the Earth axis is the same position as it was aound 26000 years ago.

BUT, that means nothing, because in 1789 the position of the Earth axis is the same position as it was aound 26000 years before 1789...

It's totally arbitrary...
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
Maybe some things are not meant to be explained. Maybe you should ask your friends to experience it and then you can all get together, have a party, then explain to each other what the experience meant.

Sit back and enjoy.hf
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
and how this alignment is NOT the same as the one that happens every year on the winter solstice.

any advice for a good page to send people to to read about this?

because this nasa thing:
[link to www.nasa.gov]

bugs me how nasa says " Each December the Earth and sun align with the approximate center of the Milky Way Galaxy but that is an annual event of no consequence." but that is not what alignment people are talking about in 2012. it really is an alignment that happens every 26,000 years. i'm trying to find a page that will describe it accurately and simply. but yes, this is disinfo in that yes, what they say is true, BUT what they fail to leave out is that the mayan calendar is not referring to this annual alignment.

and i would like a simple page i can point to for my friends to understand because i am having a hard time explaining it.
 Quoting: pink cat

There is no 26,000 year alignment. DOOMies are just desperately looking for ANY kind of alignment that they can pin to the end of the Mayan Calendar. First, it was the Galactic Alignment, but as you mention, that's been proven to happen every year. Then it was a planetary alignment, but that's been proven false. Then it was a planetary alignment with the Giza pyramids, but that's come and gone.

There Earth does complete one full precession every 26,000 years, but this has no specific relationship to 2012.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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