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is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?

 
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
btw, i am not saying dec 21st is the end or a doomsday or whatever. i just want to be able to understand this alignment.

from what i have gathered so far, it seems that right now we have been viewing the milky way from a particular angle for the last 26,000 years and on dec 21st we will be on our journey to seeing the milky way from the "other side" of it.

so we will be seeing the opposite side of the milky way because we are passing through it.

something like that.

and some pizzas.
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The wobble of the Earth's axis has nothing to do with any alignment of the axis with the center of the Milky Way. And in celestial mechanics, nothing is doing a jump from one side of the galaxy to the other. And circles tend to not have a start nor an end.
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
There is no special alignment happening on the 21st.

It's the same as the one that happens every year.

Do some research OP.

It's just hype to add to the 2012 bullshit.
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yes, there is actually. from a larger perspective. there is something different that will align. so there.

cheers
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You're wrong....but okay.


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more like (Double post)^3
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
and how this alignment is NOT the same as the one that happens every year on the winter solstice.

any advice for a good page to send people to to read about this?

because this nasa thing:
[link to www.nasa.gov]

bugs me how nasa says " Each December the Earth and sun align with the approximate center of the Milky Way Galaxy but that is an annual event of no consequence." but that is not what alignment people are talking about in 2012. it really is an alignment that happens every 26,000 years. i'm trying to find a page that will describe it accurately and simply. but yes, this is disinfo in that yes, what they say is true, BUT what they fail to leave out is that the mayan calendar is not referring to this annual alignment.

and i would like a simple page i can point to for my friends to understand because i am having a hard time explaining it.
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Simple, I found this [link to alignment2012.com] Smiley
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the skies have been looking awfully funny lately at night, like a weird greenish gray glow and no more dark skies. I think after we move below the 'fluff' we will die. sorry.... i will miss you all
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
The precession is a complete cycle that lasts AROUND 26000 years...

BUT, there is no way to determine when this cycle "starts" and "ends"...

In 2012, the position of the Earth axis is the same position as it was aound 26000 years ago.

BUT, that means nothing, because in 1789 the position of the Earth axis was the same position as it was aound 26000 years before 1789...

It's totally arbitrary...



BUT....

It has nothing to do at all with the Galactic Equator...

So, I'm trying to figure out what kind of relation people are claiming to exist between the Galactic Equator and the precession of the equinoxes (Great year), since the two things appear to be totally unconnected to each other...
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and how this alignment is NOT the same as the one that happens every year on the winter solstice.

any advice for a good page to send people to to read about this?

because this nasa thing:
[link to www.nasa.gov]

bugs me how nasa says " Each December the Earth and sun align with the approximate center of the Milky Way Galaxy but that is an annual event of no consequence." but that is not what alignment people are talking about in 2012. it really is an alignment that happens every 26,000 years. i'm trying to find a page that will describe it accurately and simply. but yes, this is disinfo in that yes, what they say is true, BUT what they fail to leave out is that the mayan calendar is not referring to this annual alignment.

and i would like a simple page i can point to for my friends to understand because i am having a hard time explaining it.
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Simple, I found this [link to alignment2012.com] Smiley
 Quoting: smilesun


NICE....and from that website...
[link to www.lunarplanner.com]

A cool little animation of the procession.
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
There is no special alignment happening on the 21st.

It's the same as the one that happens every year.

Do some research OP.

It's just hype to add to the 2012 bullshit.
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yes, there is actually. from a larger perspective. there is something different that will align. so there.

cheers
 Quoting: pink cat




You're wrong....but okay.

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nice evidence you've presented there. very compelling case.
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Crappy Internet connection resulted in multiple posts ...
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
So, I'm trying to figure out what kind of relation people are claiming to exist between the Galactic Equator and the precession of the equinoxes (Great year), since the two things appear to be totally unconnected to each other...
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You cannot argue with people that luck basic astronomy knowledge. They don't even understand that the precession path doesn't pass anywhere near the galactic center, so there is no "alignment" of anything, even more by 21st of December. Anyway I'll be LOLing all the doomfreaks in 22nd of the month...
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
i think ian xel lungold explains it in detail here.

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i think ian xel lungold explains it in detail here.

<iframe width="420" height="315" src=" [link to www.youtube.com] frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
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You seem like a HTML 1.0 h4x0r....
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
think of the solar system as being like one of those horses on a fairground ride, constantly going up and down

when the horse is at it's lowest point and highest point, is when we're well away from trouble

when it's at the mid point is when we're in shit up to our necks

that's December 21

whether or not we all die depends on mother earth NOT swallowing some of that brown sticky stuff

am i over simplifying this now? lol
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
You may be surprised to learn that the Sun never "crosses the Galactic Equator" because the Sun is always on that "Equator", by definition. In contrast, the Sun is currently almost 100 light years away from the Galactic Plane, and getting further away all the time. The Sun won't return to the Plane for about 30 million years.

Introduction

It's been said that first-hand knowledge is not only more worth acquiring than second-hand knowledge, but is usually much easier and more delightful to acquire.1

This was our own experience regarding the difference between the "Galactic Plane" and the "Galactic Equator". The information we'd found in several online sources indicated that they're identical. We knew this to be wrong, so we searched further, and found the article2 from 1960 in which the International Astronomical Union (IAU) defined the reference plane that has since become known as the "Galactic Equator". We'll soon see that this is an unfortunate misnomer.

Although the IAU's article was apparently not written for the general public, it's quite readable, with a friendly, engaging tone. We encourage everyone to examine it themselves, and hope our treatment of it here will help readers over any difficult spots.


READ MORE: [link to www.2012hoax.org]


you all should read the link above...
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
The Sun never crosses the Galactic Equator because the Sun is always on the Galactic Equator: that Equator passes through the center of the Sun, by definition. We sometimes hear that the Sun aligns with the Galactic Equator near the Winter Solstice of each year, but that's only because we tend to look at things from our from our provincial geocentric perspective. The ecliptic plane (i.e., the plane that contains the Earth's orbit) passes through the Center of the Sun, just like the "Galactic Equator", but the two are not parallel. Therefore, the ecliptic plane and the "Galactic Equator" intersect along a line that passes through the Sun's center. When the Earth crosses that line in its yearly orbit around the Sun, the Sun appears (from our perspective) to "align with the intersection of the ecliptic and the galactic equator". Actually, it's the Earth that's getting in line.

[link to www.2012hoax.org]
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
it's all a giant rube goldberg machine.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

i think i will have to be satisfied that until someday there is a holodeck that can show me how this thing works, until then...i will have to view it as a monkey views a rube golderg machine.

things are in motion.
this much we know.
and we can all feel things coming to a "point" of some sort.
and so ....there it is.

those who cannot "feel" this will say it is not so and those who do feel it will say it's very obvious.

to me it feels obvious. i just cannot visualize it.

and also how venus plays in and it's "pentagram" shaped orbit.

so many things. a very complex machine. like trying to figure out a swiss clock in 5 minutes with almost no knowledge of gears.

i think i will not try and beat myself over the head with this.

someday it'll be clear to me.

and whatever happens happens.

personally, for me, this is a time of trasformation from within. i cannot speak for anyone else's experiences.

but i feel it "clicking" in me and i think i am ready for whatever it is. a portal to open of some kind.

whether that is an inner portal or an actual physical manifestation of a portal.

remember when the sun had the HUGE triangle shaped coronal hole on it?

now THAT was something.

it's not just "one moment" it is a succession of moments.

we are in it now, i believe. it's not just "a day" thing, imo. and poof it will be over.

that is what my intuition tells me.
and so i'm sticking with that unless i find something more explicable.
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
The Sun never crosses the Galactic Equator because the Sun is always on the Galactic Equator: that Equator passes through the center of the Sun, by definition. We sometimes hear that the Sun aligns with the Galactic Equator near the Winter Solstice of each year, but that's only because we tend to look at things from our from our provincial geocentric perspective. The ecliptic plane (i.e., the plane that contains the Earth's orbit) passes through the Center of the Sun, just like the "Galactic Equator", but the two are not parallel. Therefore, the ecliptic plane and the "Galactic Equator" intersect along a line that passes through the Sun's center. When the Earth crosses that line in its yearly orbit around the Sun, the Sun appears (from our perspective) to "align with the intersection of the ecliptic and the galactic equator". Actually, it's the Earth that's getting in line.

[link to www.2012hoax.org]
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ya, this is about something more than the galactic equator.
just as an equator and a center do not mean the same thing but are related.
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Oh, dear God, that looks bad. I mean really bad. I mean really f'n %$$#@&* bad.
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
certainly this:
Thread: CERN, LHC Largest Ever Experiment coincides with Mayan End Date

fireballs and people testing nuclear stuff right now don't make me feel too comfortable. i can say that much.
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
You will be able to communicate with telepathy. Communicate with all mammals and feel happy all the time. It will be like being stoned 24/7. The Galactic Alignment is coming and you will enjoy it.
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
Just watch the bright shinning sun! And the washed up white sky!

Never before you've seen it! I bet money on it!!
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
John Jenkins is an expert on this:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Mayan Calendar and 2012-
From the love of power to the power of Love -
[link to 2012portal.myfeedportal.com]
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
Here's an easy illustration to understand what the "wobble"
part is.... a lot of people don't get that part when you try
to explain it.


That the answer to this question is primarily astronomical in nature is supported by two important clues. First, the calendar restarts on the winter solstice, an astronomical event. Second, the overall length of the calendar is related to the precession of the earth, another astronomical phenomenon. Precession is the very slow wobble of the earth. Remember, the earth is spinning on its axis and this axis of rotation is tilted. When we observe the direction that this axis is pointing, we see that the entire earth wobbles like a top that is not standing straight up. Again, this is called precession and it takes about 26,000 years for the earth to complete one wobble. By the way, this 26,000-year period is sometimes called “the great year.”
[link to www.grahamhancock.com]


FYI... I don't believe ET created the Mayan calendar....this just happens
to be a good explanation of the 26,000 year cycle.

And I don't believe 12/12/12 is the end. tounge
 Quoting: Madigan



THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD PAGE.

However, He doesn't mention how the constellation Cygnus well be right above the Sun at noon on December 21, 2012. Completing the Tree Of Life Rebirth Cycle. Not to mention Cygnus is already the top half of the Northern Cross constellation in our night sky every night (Norttern hemisphere.)
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
Out of curiosity, in what year does the Solstice occur closest to the time when the Sun is aligned with the intersection of the ecliptic and the galactic equator?


The IAU estimate of the uncertainty in the location of the galactic pole is 0.5m (0.125º) in RA and 7 arcminutes (0.117º) in Dec. Thus the error in the date of 1998.6 is +/- 12.5 years, ie. the date of the solstice point crossing the galactic equator could fall anytime during the years 1986 to 2011.

Conclusion: A calculation of the date on which the solstice points cross the galactic equator gives 1998, but the probable errors in the position of the galactic pole as defined by the IAU mean that this date could fall anytime between the years 1986 and 2011.

But didn't the Maya ALMOST get it right?

When 2012 proponents are shown that Sun aligned with the Galactic Equator in 1998, and won't align in 2012 as the Maya supposedly predicted, the proponents tend to dismiss the discrepancy as nit-packing. They then reassert the Maya's supposedly godlike powers, this time on the basis that the Maya almost got the year right. (For example, see this review of John Major Jenkins' book, The 2012 Story.) We might expect that having been refuted regarding the Galactic Equator, 2012 proponents will now proclaim that the Maya almost nailed the year of the "H1 Plane" alignment.

source: [link to www.2012hoax.org]


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no one has posted this one yet:
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
Take a look at these two. It helped me understand
clearly what's going/ might happen.

[link to alignment2012.com]





[link to www.maya12-21-2012.com]
 Quoting: Indysmindy


ya, just found that one. but i still don't get it.
perhaps i need more coffee.

also i cannot get the quicktime movie to load on this stupid netbook. grrrr.

so what are we aligning with exactly?

the milky way? the galactic center? or the balck hole in the galactic center?
and we are also traveling through a cloud scientists call 'the fluff" right now on top of it?

i have tried with all my might to visualize this all year but i dunno.
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In order for there to be this kind of process there has to be a Binary system. For an orbit has to exist there must be a center which to orbit from. Some argue we are not in a binary system which we are. My above statement references that. We exist in a duality, a binary system which uses the power of 3. Positive, neutral, negative. Consider this Galactic alignment as being and approaching the neutral zone. You see scales every day used every where, picture a scale with colors Green,Yellow,Red. We are moving into the Yellow. Think in term of music, High,Mid,Low tones, well we are moving into the Mid's. In the center, with the center, within the center, of us and our Galaxy.

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