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is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?

 
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
and how this alignment is NOT the same as the one that happens every year on the winter solstice.

any advice for a good page to send people to to read about this?
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there is a video called, 2012 Crossing Over: A New Beginning.
It is very explanatory. 1 hr 44 min.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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It's like this. When I was a kid out in California, before the place became infested and overpopulated, I used to go up into the hills of the desert around us and look for horned toads to catch. I noticed that the whole area had sea shells and coral fragments laying everywhere in the sand and dirt, especially where some work crews had been digging to put in drain pipes or the such. Even as a small child, I realized the entire area had been under the ocean not very long ago, and I wondered why not a peep about this was being taught or acknowledged in the schools or among adults. Oh well, I was just a kid.
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
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That is the correct answer, and you got it on the first page.

Ask yourself some simple questions.

(1) How large is the Milky Way galaxy?
(2) How many stars are in this galaxy?
(3) How much do these stars weigh and is weight the primary item that should be measured?
(4) What is the energy output of the stars?
(5) Who knows the correct answers to these questions?

The problem is that nobody knows for certain any of those answers. You can write a definition of a plane, but which qualities are most important? The center of the galaxy is 30-40 light years thick and the edge is at least 3 light years thick.

Yeah, we can get hit by some beam of energy from who knows where, but "crossing the galactic plane" is just so much internet bullshit. Experienced astronomers could only provide a guess as to where we are exactly in relation to this poorly defined plane.

Find something important to worry about that you can have some effect at solving.
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
Phoomp -- what is wrong with you???
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In other words...you have been lied to. Things change....really, really change...fast. And then it starts all over again.
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


If I didn't know any better after having have read this peticular link that they have been CHEMTRAILING to offset or minimize the blast from the Sun thats looks to be imminent sooner or later.

I think the Chemtrailing isn't sinister at all. I think its been for the planets own good.

Thanks for starting this thread Pink Cat. God Bless you and yours.
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
Out of curiosity, in what year does the Solstice occur closest to the time when the Sun is aligned with the intersection of the ecliptic and the galactic equator?


The IAU estimate of the uncertainty in the location of the galactic pole is 0.5m (0.125º) in RA and 7 arcminutes (0.117º) in Dec. Thus the error in the date of 1998.6 is +/- 12.5 years, ie. the date of the solstice point crossing the galactic equator could fall anytime during the years 1986 to 2011.

Conclusion: A calculation of the date on which the solstice points cross the galactic equator gives 1998, but the probable errors in the position of the galactic pole as defined by the IAU mean that this date could fall anytime between the years 1986 and 2011.

But didn't the Maya ALMOST get it right?

When 2012 proponents are shown that Sun aligned with the Galactic Equator in 1998, and won't align in 2012 as the Maya supposedly predicted, the proponents tend to dismiss the discrepancy as nit-packing. They then reassert the Maya's supposedly godlike powers, this time on the basis that the Maya almost got the year right. (For example, see this review of John Major Jenkins' book, The 2012 Story.) We might expect that having been refuted regarding the Galactic Equator, 2012 proponents will now proclaim that the Maya almost nailed the year of the "H1 Plane" alignment.

source: [link to www.2012hoax.org]


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Read about the Great Year (or Perfect Year) and Hipparchus

[link to www.astro.cornell.edu]
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Ostria1



And???

The Great Year exists, it's related to the precession of the equinoxes...

BUT, who determines when this Great Year "ends" or "begins"???

It's completely arbitrary...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29351945


None.. the only "start" I can think of is when the planetary system was created, and for us the Sun, Earth and the moon started to move as they do today. What we can detect is the polar star (the north polar star) which changes in the years and now eg we have Polaris (the top of the tail of Ursa Minor) and some thousand years ago it was elsewhere (eg in Draco) and in the future in will be another constelation's star.
I agree that the sun doesnt pass through the galactic center and there isnt going to be any alignment as some say.
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
If you really want any reason to believe that there is something special about the year 2012, you should try this thread:



Thread: Here is why 2012 is really a very SPECIAL and UNIQUE year, regarding to the cycles of the Moon!




That's the only possible reason that I can think for 2012 being a "special" year...
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
3 things..Mayans predict the end of time, the I-ching predicts the end of time, and Nostradamus predicted the end of time.
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 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


If I didn't know any better after having have read this peticular link that they have been CHEMTRAILING to offset or minimize the blast from the Sun thats looks to be imminent sooner or later.

I think the Chemtrailing isn't sinister at all. I think its been for the planets own good.

Thanks for starting this thread Pink Cat. God Bless you and yours.
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You are wise.

The maximization of survival numbers for population self support is of the greatest concern.

This will not happen this month in the way that is listed here. A controlled depopulation must take place before the final cleansing. It is only after this cleansing that the optimal population numbers and skill set will be reached.

So it shall be.
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
John Jenkins is an expert on this:

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

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John Jenkins is one of those who gained from all this fear they produced. He had dozens of lectures all around the world (400 us$ to hear him i read), a book etc etc..
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
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This is what you're looking for - can someone embedd it for the rest of the alignmentards?...

[link to 3forward.com]
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
3 things..Mayans predict the end of time, the I-ching predicts the end of time, and Nostradamus predicted the end of time.
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The I-Ching never predicted anything about 2012.

Terence McKenna, after doing some drugs, interpreted the I-Ching in a completely crazy way to get to this date of 2012...
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
i found this page:
[link to alignment2012.com]

but even that is hard to understand. but it seems to be the most reasonable one i have found so far.
 Quoting: pink cat

The 'alignment' you appear to be concerned about happened back in 1998. Nothing happened back in 1998, it's over...

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OP -- I found this 3-part video series very useful. This is part 1, and an explanation of the alignment starts at the 6-minute mark.

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i found this page:
[link to alignment2012.com]

but even that is hard to understand. but it seems to be the most reasonable one i have found so far.
 Quoting: pink cat

The 'alignment' you appear to be concerned about happened back in 1998. Nothing happened back in 1998, it's over...


 Quoting: TBar1984



Out of curiosity, in what year does the Solstice occur closest to the time when the Sun is aligned with the intersection of the ecliptic and the galactic equator?


The IAU estimate of the uncertainty in the location of the galactic pole is 0.5m (0.125º) in RA and 7 arcminutes (0.117º) in Dec. Thus the error in the date of 1998.6 is +/- 12.5 years, ie. the date of the solstice point crossing the galactic equator could fall anytime during the years 1986 to 2011.

Conclusion: A calculation of the date on which the solstice points cross the galactic equator gives 1998, but the probable errors in the position of the galactic pole as defined by the IAU mean that this date could fall anytime between the years 1986 and 2011.


source: [link to www.2012hoax.org]
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i found this page:
[link to alignment2012.com]

but even that is hard to understand. but it seems to be the most reasonable one i have found so far.
 Quoting: pink cat

The 'alignment' you appear to be concerned about happened back in 1998. Nothing happened back in 1998, it's over...


 Quoting: TBar1984



Out of curiosity, in what year does the Solstice occur closest to the time when the Sun is aligned with the intersection of the ecliptic and the galactic equator?


The IAU estimate of the uncertainty in the location of the galactic pole is 0.5m (0.125º) in RA and 7 arcminutes (0.117º) in Dec. Thus the error in the date of 1998.6 is +/- 12.5 years, ie. the date of the solstice point crossing the galactic equator could fall anytime during the years 1986 to 2011.

Conclusion: A calculation of the date on which the solstice points cross the galactic equator gives 1998, but the probable errors in the position of the galactic pole as defined by the IAU mean that this date could fall anytime between the years 1986 and 2011.


source: [link to www.2012hoax.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29351945



Watch the Video, it's VERY Precise. Source: Starry Night Education [link to store.simulationcurriculum.com]
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
Sorry, but this 26000 year "alignment" fear is BS
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Yeah, because Wikipedia is all factual info....go away Moran shill
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
this is a very simple presentation of "what's happening" using SCIENTIFIC FACT - in layman's language and relating it to our Ancient history















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OP -- you've attracted a lot of pseudo-scientific ego-driven trolls. That's always a good sign that you've asked the right question. Don't listen to those who say 'it is nothing, it is meaningless, it has already happened'. They are either misinformed or they are lying outright.
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
Imagine a "balanceball"( [link to www.robbinssports.com] )

For 26 000 years we have followed the top half ( or bottom lol) and on 21.12.2012 we will cross the "plate" in the middle.. and start following the other half of the ball..

Sorry for bad english :/
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Double post
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more like (Double post)^3
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Whoa! Crappy internet connection seemed to result in a massive duplication of that post!

I blame the approaching 26,000 alignment!
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It's like this. When I was a kid out in California, before the place became infested and overpopulated, I used to go up into the hills of the desert around us and look for horned toads to catch. I noticed that the whole area had sea shells and coral fragments laying everywhere in the sand and dirt, especially where some work crews had been digging to put in drain pipes or the such. Even as a small child, I realized the entire area had been under the ocean not very long ago, and I wondered why not a peep about this was being taught or acknowledged in the schools or among adults. Oh well, I was just a kid.
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Smart kid though.

Same thing here in Nevada. Trilobites and weird little shells,
not sure what the shells are, but you can find them in the desert.
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 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


If I didn't know any better after having have read this peticular link that they have been CHEMTRAILING to offset or minimize the blast from the Sun thats looks to be imminent sooner or later.

I think the Chemtrailing isn't sinister at all. I think its been for the planets own good.

Thanks for starting this thread Pink Cat. God Bless you and yours.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20223910


You are wise.

The maximization of survival numbers for population self support is of the greatest concern.

This will not happen this month in the way that is listed here. A controlled depopulation must take place before the final cleansing. It is only after this cleansing that the optimal population numbers and skill set will be reached.

So it shall be.
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We don't know when it will happen. Controlled depopulation....? They are not in control of anything. The cosmos are in control. So pretyy much from the 12th on everything could change at the drop of a hat. I trust the Mayans. Funny how Zeta Talk tells people to crawl in to the ground in shallow trenches with tin on the top. Its all starting to make sense now. I know what I'm doing for the next few days. Getting right with God but also changing the battle plan a bit. Thanks again Pink Cat and best of luck to you all.
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
For what it's worth, here's my stab at my current understanding:

First, you simply can't get complicated "Galaxy-sized" issues down to a Tweet. This is because everyone has their own definitions of synonyms in their head and things won't make sense. Allow me to try to explain:

Everyone should know and/or understand by now that this reality is based on Duality; that is, everything has an opposite: up/down, left/right, good/bad, righteous/evil, straight/wavy, black/white, positive/negative -- And transitions between one to the other are considered "grey" or "chargeless areas."

This can be visualized by a SINE WAVE -- straight line (left-to-right) with a second line waving up and down over the straight line, much like this image of this SINE WAVE: [link to 1.bp.blogspot.com]

What's mostly unknown is that a SINE WAVE (like the image above) is only being represented in a 2D fashion, that is, it's flattened.

What you don't see in a 2D space is that the up/down line is actually SPIRALING around the straight line, like a corkscrew, making it a 3D Sine wave. (This is where that Holodeck would come in handy!)

You can also see this in personal relationships. Stereo-typically, the male can represent the straight, solid, foundation of a line (calm) and the female can represent the up/down spiraling line (crazy). You can imagine if you have "crazy", you need "calm" to balance it out. If someone isn't "calm" all the time, then the "crazy" line will end up distorting the straight line, causing it to wave too and when both entities are synchronized to "crazy," bad things happen and the two lose their relationship and fall apart. The same is true in the opposite direction, but instead, it dies from shear boredom. And sure, it doesn't have to be a male/female relationship, but can just be a "calm/crazy" relationship. Although not directly related to cosmological conditions, it's important to realize that everything in this universe has this relationship. Even planets; one straight, one circling.

You can see this in Earth/Moon relationship, where the Earth is the straight line, the Moon is the "spiraling" line. Because the earth is in motion (around the sun), the moon must travel in a spiral/corkscrew fashion, or the Earth would leave the moon behind!

You can see this in the Earth/Sun relationship, where the Sun is the straight line, the Earth is the circling line. Because the sun is in motion (around the galaxy), the Earth must travel in a spiral/corkscrew fashion, or the Sun would leave the Earth behind!

You can see this is the Sun(Solar System)/Galaxy relationship, where the Milky Way Galaxy is the straight line, the Solar System is the circling line. Because the MWG is in motion (around Universe), the Solar System must travel in a spiral/corkscrew fashion, or the MWG would leave the Solar System behind!

Now with the definitions laid out, let me say that everyone is right in what they are saying about alignments -- and everyone is wrong, in that they're not talking about the same thing someone else wants to talk about, hence differences of opinion start to creep in and arguments are held about what each person sees on either side of the coin.

The "NO ALIGNMENT PEOPLE" use the "this happens every year" argument because they are talking about the alignment from the Earth/Sun relationship. And they're right!

The "GALACTIC ALIGNMENT PEOPLE" use the "every 26000 year" argument because they are talking about the alignment from the Solar System/Galaxy relationship. And they're right!

The procession wobble that denotes which "Age" we're in can, theoretically, be caused by this sine wave form because above the Galactic Plane are positively charged particles while below the Galactic Plane has negatively charged particles - This can be seen on a smaller scale on Earth by studying the Coriolis Effect (why do toilets flush counterclockwise in the northern hemisphere, but clockwise in the southern hemisphere?); These are the same forces at work and help maintain a constant spin.

Hope this helps some people to better understand.
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We don't know when it will happen. Controlled depopulation....? They are not in control of anything. The cosmos are in control. So pretyy much from the 12th on everything could change at the drop of a hat. I trust the Mayans. Funny how Zeta Talk tells people to crawl in to the ground in shallow trenches with tin on the top. Its all starting to make sense now. I know what I'm doing for the next few days. Getting right with God but also changing the battle plan a bit. Thanks again Pink Cat and best of luck to you all.
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You are doing good!

Just pray to the shinning Sun!

Everything will be ok! I trust the Cosmos-Father-Mother!
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think of the solar system as being like one of those horses on a fairground ride, constantly going up and down

when the horse is at it's lowest point and highest point, is when we're well away from trouble

when it's at the mid point is when we're in shit up to our necks

that's December 21

whether or not we all die depends on mother earth NOT swallowing some of that brown sticky stuff

am i over simplifying this now? lol
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Imagine the horse to be our solar system. Up and down up and down as it spins around the centre of the galaxy. Lets say the horse is in the down position. It will take 26000 years before it is back in the down position. It is at the point on the rise up and the rise back down that it crosses the mid way position. The mid way position is when it crosses the galactic plane and that is the alignment.

That is the simplest explanation you wi ever receive.

If you cannot get your head around that, then forget it. The solar system has been through this cycle many many times.

The last time was 13000 years ago.
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Re: is there a page which explains this 26,000 year alignment in a way that is simple?
Take a look at these two. It helped me understand
clearly what's going/ might happen.

[link to alignment2012.com]

[link to www.maya12-21-2012.com]
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That helped me to understand it. Thanks for the link !!

hf

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