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UNKNOWN OBJECT HEADING THIS WAY!!! UPDATE DEC8 2012!!! OH SHIT!!!

 
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Are comets usually coming in from below the ecliptic?
Furthermore, isn't it moving away from the sun?
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no, its Apollo class object, it is NOT a comet. Density is way too high.
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Are comets usually coming in from below the ecliptic?
Furthermore, isn't it moving away from the sun?
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It's just now passing perihelion. Comets can come from any direction, it's not at all unusual to see them highly inclined to the ecliptic or even in retrograde orbits.
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Are comets usually coming in from below the ecliptic?
Furthermore, isn't it moving away from the sun?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12727906


no, its Apollo class object, it is NOT a comet. Density is way too high.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11813204


It's not 2012 DA14, you keep posting info for that asteroid which has nothing to do with this comet. PLEASE stop spamming the thread and trying to confuse people.
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I rewatched your rebuttal video.......awesome graphics, BTW------are you saying the "distortion" you talk of is the reason the comet is coming at a steep angle?

And is Swan supposed to be coming in at that steep angle.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18622835

No, actually the 136.39480 degree inclination is why it is coming in at a steep angle to the ecliptic.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


I'm an English major, Dr. Astro----------complex math and astronomical terms are beyond me (Sorry. And be patient, please)------------------

The inclination you speak of----is that in relation to the camera/camera angle?

Or just the way it moves through the sky?

Explain it in layman's terms, please, for a "novice."cool2
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18622835

It's the inclination to the earth's orbital plane, the ecliptic. Wikipedia has a pretty good diagram of it:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Thanks for the link. I will read it.
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Its definitly not a commet, MAss is to high. more likely iron
Calculated density given Radius of .045 KM and mass of 1.3+e08 is
~34 kg per cubic meter

THE FUCK IS THIS THING
water, and water ice is only 1kg cubic meter
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11813204


LOL, where did you get these numbers? Oh wait, I see now, you got them from here:
[link to neo.jpl.nasa.gov]
AGAIN, this is NOT 2012 D14. 2012 DA14 is an asteroid, not a comet. It has nothing to do with C/2012 V4, it is not what you see in this video.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

Down Boy! Down Boy!....there there... good Astro.

You don't want to be sued for doggie bites, ya know?
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Eisteacht le gra! ~ArunaLuna (Translation from Gaelic: "Listen to Love!")

"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

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Are comets usually coming in from below the ecliptic?
Furthermore, isn't it moving away from the sun?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12727906


no, its Apollo class object, it is NOT a comet. Density is way too high.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11813204


It's not 2012 DA14, you keep posting info for that asteroid which has nothing to do with this comet. PLEASE stop spamming the thread and trying to confuse people.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


The video refers to the asteroid as 2012 DA14.
the info i posted is for 2012 DA14.
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What a bunch of chicken littles
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Its definitly not a commet, MAss is to high. more likely iron
Calculated density given Radius of .045 KM and mass of 1.3+e08 is
~34 kg per cubic meter

THE FUCK IS THIS THING
water, and water ice is only 1kg cubic meter
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11813204


LOL, where did you get these numbers? Oh wait, I see now, you got them from here:
[link to neo.jpl.nasa.gov]
AGAIN, this is NOT 2012 D14. 2012 DA14 is an asteroid, not a comet. It has nothing to do with C/2012 V4, it is not what you see in this video.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

Down Boy! Down Boy!....there there... good Astro.

You don't want to be sued for doggie bites, ya know?
 Quoting: Éireann


wtfdog
lol j/k
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Are comets usually coming in from below the ecliptic?
Furthermore, isn't it moving away from the sun?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12727906


no, its Apollo class object, it is NOT a comet. Density is way too high.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11813204


It's not 2012 DA14, you keep posting info for that asteroid which has nothing to do with this comet. PLEASE stop spamming the thread and trying to confuse people.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


The video refers to the asteroid as 2012 DA14.
the info i posted is for 2012 DA14.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11813204


Well it's not 2012 DA14, it's C/2012 V4.
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What's interesting about it. The fact that ACs with no knowledge on space and a big imagination think something is up when someone like Dr. Astro who clear has a lot of knowledge on space has brought this to light.
 Quoting: Dapurps


Astro also uses gubment websites for his rebuttle.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29380270


True. The thing is, if you are of a conspiracy mind, government sites may lie.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18622835

It's interesting that those who are of a conspiracy mind refuse to believe government sources, but they'll believe almost anything anybody else says with little-to-no evidence.
 Quoting: phoomp


Actually, I truly follow the dictum of this site at the bottom of the page----------don't believe anything you read on this site. It's also that I don't tend to trust the Government telling me what's what either.

I was simply replying to the person above who seemed to be placing trust in Gov. sites.
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Its definitly not a commet, MAss is to high. more likely iron
Calculated density given Radius of .045 KM and mass of 1.3+e08 is
~34 kg per cubic meter

THE FUCK IS THIS THING
water, and water ice is only 1kg cubic meter
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11813204


LOL, where did you get these numbers? Oh wait, I see now, you got them from here:
[link to neo.jpl.nasa.gov]
AGAIN, this is NOT 2012 D14. 2012 DA14 is an asteroid, not a comet. It has nothing to do with C/2012 V4, it is not what you see in this video.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

Down Boy! Down Boy!....there there... good Astro.

You don't want to be sued for doggie bites, ya know?
 Quoting: Éireann


wtfdog
lol j/k
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

ilaugh
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"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

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at 0:21 in the video the OP says this is 2012 DA14. what am i missing?
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What a bunch of chicken littles
 Quoting: stone 29213827


Who? The people on GLP? Or just some in this thread. It's a CONSPIRACY SITE, buddy.
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Astro also uses gubment websites for his rebuttle.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29380270


True. The thing is, if you are of a conspiracy mind, government sites may lie.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18622835

It's interesting that those who are of a conspiracy mind refuse to believe government sources, but they'll believe almost anything anybody else says with little-to-no evidence.
 Quoting: phoomp


Actually, I truly follow the dictum of this site at the bottom of the page----------don't believe anything you read on this site. It's also that I don't tend to trust the Government telling me what's what either.

I was simply replying to the person above who seemed to be placing trust in Gov. sites.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18622835


Would it calm your mind if I were to calculate the orbit of C/2012 V4 myself using nothing but amateur astrometric measurements and then load that into Celestia and see if it still matches what STEREO-B HI2 sees?
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I JUST TOOK A HOT BATH AND CAME BACK TO SEE WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON AND I STILL HAVE NO CLUE! ARE ENKI AND ENIL AND ALL THEM NAGGAS COMING BACK TO MAKE US SLAVES OR NOT???angry2
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at 0:21 in the video the OP says this is 2012 DA14. what am i missing?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11813204


That the video in the OP is wrong. It's C/2012 V4:
[link to www.youtube.com]
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Hey doc, how far apart are the TWO separate objects being talked about apart from each other...?
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at 0:21 in the video the OP says this is 2012 DA14. what am i missing?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11813204


I guess Astro is saying the OP was wrong in saying that. Which he probably was.
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Psycho, fugging Egos.

Astro...sorry...what is your poison?

Oh, yourself.

Life of the party.

"To go into quietude"

Hmmmm....not outside your box.
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Hey doc, how far apart are the TWO separate objects being talked about apart from each other...?
 Quoting: stone 29213827


Which objects? Earth and the comet? About 1.4 astronomical units. Between STEREO Behind and the comet the distance is about half an astronomical unit.
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Hey doc, how far apart are the TWO separate objects being talked about apart from each other...?
 Quoting: stone 29213827


Which objects? Earth and the comet? About 1.4 astronomical units. Between STEREO Behind and the comet the distance is about half an astronomical unit.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


I meant the comet and the asteroid?
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True. The thing is, if you are of a conspiracy mind, government sites may lie.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18622835

It's interesting that those who are of a conspiracy mind refuse to believe government sources, but they'll believe almost anything anybody else says with little-to-no evidence.
 Quoting: phoomp


Actually, I truly follow the dictum of this site at the bottom of the page----------don't believe anything you read on this site. It's also that I don't tend to trust the Government telling me what's what either.

I was simply replying to the person above who seemed to be placing trust in Gov. sites.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18622835


Would it calm your mind if I were to calculate the orbit of C/2012 V4 myself using nothing but amateur astrometric measurements and then load that into Celestia and see if it still matches what STEREO-B HI2 sees?
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


If you want.....................my mind is not perturbed anyway.

I'm a CYNIC in the OLD way of defining it (philosophical movement)..............trust and focus in the here and now and on my fellow man......the rest is just "pious hopes."

Thanks for the link, again. Appreciate it.
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What a bunch of chicken littles
 Quoting: stone 29213827


Who? The people on GLP? Or just some in this thread. It's a CONSPIRACY SITE, buddy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18622835


Fully debunked yesterday...so the thread....Bub
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True. The thing is, if you are of a conspiracy mind, government sites may lie.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18622835

It's interesting that those who are of a conspiracy mind refuse to believe government sources, but they'll believe almost anything anybody else says with little-to-no evidence.
 Quoting: phoomp


Actually, I truly follow the dictum of this site at the bottom of the page----------don't believe anything you read on this site. It's also that I don't tend to trust the Government telling me what's what either.

I was simply replying to the person above who seemed to be placing trust in Gov. sites.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18622835


Would it calm your mind if I were to calculate the orbit of C/2012 V4 myself using nothing but amateur astrometric measurements and then load that into Celestia and see if it still matches what STEREO-B HI2 sees?
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

Please show your work so as to entertain the wannbe astro-geeks. k?
Éireann~

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"And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816

"Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant... - James Munford

“It is a sad fate for a man to die too well known to everybody else, and still unknown to himself.” - Francis Bacon

"Better the illusions that exalt us than ten thousand truths" - Aleksander Pushkin
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I JUST TOOK A HOT BATH AND CAME BACK TO SEE WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON AND I STILL HAVE NO CLUE! ARE ENKI AND ENIL AND ALL THEM NAGGAS COMING BACK TO MAKE US SLAVES OR NOT???angry2
 Quoting: yahwehs princess 23672607


NOPE. lmao1rof1dance
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So, i am wrong. please punch me in the face with a brick.
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Hey doc, how far apart are the TWO separate objects being talked about apart from each other...?
 Quoting: stone 29213827


Which objects? Earth and the comet? About 1.4 astronomical units. Between STEREO Behind and the comet the distance is about half an astronomical unit.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


I meant the comet and the asteroid?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29213827


1.36 AUs.
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So, i am wrong. please punch me in the face with a brick.
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Ouch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Masochistic much??????????wtfbash
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It's interesting that those who are of a conspiracy mind refuse to believe government sources, but they'll believe almost anything anybody else says with little-to-no evidence.
 Quoting: phoomp


Actually, I truly follow the dictum of this site at the bottom of the page----------don't believe anything you read on this site. It's also that I don't tend to trust the Government telling me what's what either.

I was simply replying to the person above who seemed to be placing trust in Gov. sites.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18622835


Would it calm your mind if I were to calculate the orbit of C/2012 V4 myself using nothing but amateur astrometric measurements and then load that into Celestia and see if it still matches what STEREO-B HI2 sees?
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

Please show your work so as to entertain the wannbe astro-geeks. k?
 Quoting: Éireann


Ok, but only if I get to use some overly dramatic background music to punctuate my own awesomeness (this is tongue in cheek humor to those of you who think I'm being arrogant).
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Hey doc, how far apart are the TWO separate objects being talked about apart from each other...?
 Quoting: stone 29213827


Which objects? Earth and the comet? About 1.4 astronomical units. Between STEREO Behind and the comet the distance is about half an astronomical unit.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


I meant the comet and the asteroid?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29213827


1.36 AUs.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


So roughly 96+ million miles apart, no easily mistaken for each other?

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