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UNKNOWN OBJECT HEADING THIS WAY!!! UPDATE DEC8 2012!!! OH SHIT!!!

 
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Still pondering, so it Toutatis is 7 million km away on about the 12th of Dec. then this bad boy comet is really far away but covering an astonomical amount of space in rather quick time, is it not?
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My video shows exactly how much space it covers over the course of weeks, in 3 dimensions. It's covering exactly the space it should cover under the influence of the sun. It's got a fairly long orbital period (many decades) and has a perihelion point between the orbits of earth and Venus, so yes, it will be traveling much faster than earth at perihelion.
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Tell you what Dr. Astro:

Why don't go over to the poster of the original video on Youtube that started this whole thread and clarify things for him??????????????????
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Which one was the first one? There's so many! I've posted comments on the ones I've found talking about this, I just posted a comment on the OP's video as a matter of fact.
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Why is this pinned
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Because people find it interesting...............and because it ties in with the 2012 meme..........going on right now.
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Why is this pinned
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Because people find it interesting...............and because it ties in with the 2012 meme..........going on right now.
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What's interesting about it. The fact that ACs with no knowledge on space and a big imagination think something is up when someone like Dr. Astro who clear has a lot of knowledge on space has brought this to light.
"What you perceive to be becomes your reality."

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My lottery ticked failed again, yes Unknown Object please come destroy the earth now.

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Why is this pinned
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Because people find it interesting...............and because it ties in with the 2012 meme..........going on right now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18622835


What's interesting about it. The fact that ACs with no knowledge on space and a big imagination think something is up when someone like Dr. Astro who clear has a lot of knowledge on space has brought this to light.
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Astro also uses gubment websites for his rebuttle.
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what if its just closer to the camera? that would explain the size and speed.
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Old news. its going to make a close approach, date is February 15th i believe. however in 2045-2060 it will approach within .09 earth radii which equates to about...200 miles from the surface. its too small to leave more then a bunch of small craters, no issue. its all on the JPL table. id be more concerned if it somehow changes course drasticallybsflag.
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Why is this pinned
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Because people find it interesting...............and because it ties in with the 2012 meme..........going on right now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18622835


What's interesting about it. The fact that ACs with no knowledge on space and a big imagination think something is up when someone like Dr. Astro who clear has a lot of knowledge on space has brought this to light.
 Quoting: Dapurps


Astro also uses gubment websites for his rebuttle.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29380270


Might be so but it's better then anything the opposing side brings to the table.
"What you perceive to be becomes your reality."

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Why is this pinned
 Quoting: Dapurps


Because people find it interesting...............and because it ties in with the 2012 meme..........going on right now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18622835


What's interesting about it. The fact that ACs with no knowledge on space and a big imagination think something is up when someone like Dr. Astro who clear has a lot of knowledge on space has brought this to light.
 Quoting: Dapurps


Astro also uses gubment websites for his rebuttle.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29380270


True. The thing is, if you are of a conspiracy mind, government sites may lie.
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Why is this pinned
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Yeah, I have deja vu...this was already discussed and dissected to death and finally verified as a doom-DUD.
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huh, actually, now that i AM looking at the Data table.....this seems like it is moving a bit to slow to be natural....i mean, look at the calculated approaches from the past that have been extrapolated from its orbit.

FUTURE CLOSE APPROACHES (note measurement is Earth Radii not AU. as in fractions of the width of our planet NOT its orbit.): [link to neo.jpl.nasa.gov]

its been staying VERY close to earth. and keeps coming really close.

(past approaches) : [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]
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Why is this pinned
 Quoting: Dapurps


Because people find it interesting...............and because it ties in with the 2012 meme..........going on right now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18622835


What's interesting about it. The fact that ACs with no knowledge on space and a big imagination think something is up when someone like Dr. Astro who clear has a lot of knowledge on space has brought this to light.
 Quoting: Dapurps


Actually, the AC WAS right. It is not the object everybody thought it was. It was Swan Comet.

And notice the original poster's video did not mention it hitting the earth. Only that it may pass close to earth. At a steep angle. People were acting like it would hit the earth.
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huh, actually, now that i AM looking at the Data table.....this seems like it is moving a bit to slow to be natural....i mean, look at the calculated approaches from the past that have been extrapolated from its orbit.

FUTURE CLOSE APPROACHES (note measurement is Earth Radii not AU. as in fractions of the width of our planet NOT its orbit.): [link to neo.jpl.nasa.gov]

its been staying VERY close to earth. and keeps coming really close.

(past approaches) : [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11813204


What are you talking about? This isn't 2012 DA14.
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Why is this pinned
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Because people find it interesting...............and because it ties in with the 2012 meme..........going on right now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18622835


What's interesting about it. The fact that ACs with no knowledge on space and a big imagination think something is up when someone like Dr. Astro who clear has a lot of knowledge on space has brought this to light.
 Quoting: Dapurps


Actually, the AC WAS right. It is not the object everybody thought it was. It was Swan Comet.

And notice the original poster's video did not mention it hitting the earth. Only that it may pass close to earth. At a steep angle. People were acting like it would hit the earth.
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I still stand behind my original point as to why this is pinned. This was heavily discussed last night. There is no threat so i don't see the point in a comet thread being pinned when were heading into a shower anyways.
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Its definitly not a commet, MAss is to high. more likely iron
Calculated density given Radius of .045 KM and mass of 1.3+e08 is
~34 kg per cubic meter

THE FUCK IS THIS THING
water, and water ice is only 1kg cubic meter
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Because people find it interesting...............and because it ties in with the 2012 meme..........going on right now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18622835


What's interesting about it. The fact that ACs with no knowledge on space and a big imagination think something is up when someone like Dr. Astro who clear has a lot of knowledge on space has brought this to light.
 Quoting: Dapurps


Astro also uses gubment websites for his rebuttle.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29380270


True. The thing is, if you are of a conspiracy mind, government sites may lie.
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It's interesting that those who are of a conspiracy mind refuse to believe government sources, but they'll believe almost anything anybody else says with little-to-no evidence.
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Its definitly not a commet, MAss is to high. more likely iron
Calculated density given Radius of .045 KM and mass of 1.3+e08 is
~34 kg per cubic meter

THE FUCK IS THIS THING
water, and water ice is only 1kg cubic meter
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11813204


LOL, where did you get these numbers? Oh wait, I see now, you got them from here:
[link to neo.jpl.nasa.gov]
AGAIN, this is NOT 2012 D14. 2012 DA14 is an asteroid, not a comet. It has nothing to do with C/2012 V4, it is not what you see in this video.
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The following is a Copy paste from JPL: links @
[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]
[link to neo.jpl.nasa.gov]
TL;DR Close approach on Febuary 15th 2013, and VERY CLOSE aproach *under space station orbit* on 2054 possible impact.

Close approach Data for 2012 DA14
2013-Feb-15 19:25 GMT

Time uncertainty (D_HH:MM)
0_00:02

Body
Earth

Nominal Distance (AU. This is the most likely, and in center of probability calculation)
0.000233799507126153 AU : ~ 21 733.0219 miles

Minimum Distance (AU. inside of probability calculations
0.000181313271702344 AU : ~ 16 854.1215 Miles


Max Distance (AU. Outside of probability calculations)
0.000353865810509171 AU : ~ 32 893.8821 Miles

Velocity Relitive to Earth (KM/S)
7.78009878225669 KM/S

OBJECT PARAMETERS

size
0.045 km

Velocity (if impact)
12.72 km/s

Inclination
10.33692828105874 Deg

Palermo Scale (max. positive = bad)
-3.67

Impact Probability
0.033000000% chance of Earth impact

Number of future close approaches computed
36

FUTURE CALCULATIONS (top 3)
DATE (y-m-d) Distance in Earth Radius Torino scale
2033-02-15 0.08 (512 km from surface) 0
2053-02-15 0.06 (384 km from surface) 0
2054-02-15 0.02 (128 km from surface) 0


Analysis based on
188 observations spanning 79.384 days
(2012-Feb-23.03431 to 2012-May-12.41842)


IMPACT CALCULATION
*assuming dense rock, water impact Depth 500 meters. second calculation is land impact*

Water impact
The projectile begins to breakup at an altitude of 49400 meters = 162000 ft
The projectile bursts into a cloud of fragments at an altitude of 27400 meters = 89700 ft
The residual velocity of the projectile fragments after the burst is 9.13 km/s = 5.67 miles/s
The energy of the airburst is 5.62 x 1015 Joules = 1.34 x 100 MegaTons.
No crater is formed, although large fragments may strike the surface.


Airblast felt at 100 km
1.62 mph @ 50 dB

Tsunami
36.6 cm (foot and 2 inches)

land impact

The projectile begins to breakup at an altitude of 49400 meters = 162000 ft
The projectile bursts into a cloud of fragments at an altitude of 27400 meters = 89700 ft
The residual velocity of the projectile fragments after the burst is 9.13 km/s = 5.67 miles/s
The energy of the airburst is 5.62 x 1015 Joules = 1.34 x 100 MegaTons.
No crater is formed, although large fragments may strike the surface.

Airblast felt at 100 km
1.62 mph @ 50 dB


*parameters uped for nickel iron asteroid*

Water impact (500 m depth)

The projectile begins to breakup at an altitude of 8590 meters = 28200 ft
The projectile bursts into a cloud of fragments at an altitude of 3460 meters = 11300 ft
The residual velocity of the projectile fragments after the burst is 4.2 km/s = 2.61 miles/s
The energy of the airburst is 2.75 x 1016 Joules = 6.57 x 100 MegaTons.
Large fragments strike the surface and may create a crater strewn field.

Airblast @ 100km
8.34 mph @ 64 dB

Tsunami
35.6 cm (foot and 2 inches)

Land impact

The projectile begins to breakup at an altitude of 8590 meters = 28200 ft
The projectile bursts into a cloud of fragments at an altitude of 3460 meters = 11300 ft
The residual velocity of the projectile fragments after the burst is 4.2 km/s = 2.61 miles/s
The energy of the airburst is 2.75 x 1016 Joules = 6.57 x 100 MegaTons.
Large fragments strike the surface and may create a crater strewn field.

Airblast @ 100km
8.34 mph @ 64 dB
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Are comets usually coming in from below the ecliptic?
Furthermore, isn't it moving away from the sun?
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Are comets usually coming in from below the ecliptic?
Furthermore, isn't it moving away from the sun?
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no, its Apollo class object, it is NOT a comet. Density is way too high.
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Are comets usually coming in from below the ecliptic?
Furthermore, isn't it moving away from the sun?
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It's just now passing perihelion. Comets can come from any direction, it's not at all unusual to see them highly inclined to the ecliptic or even in retrograde orbits.
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Are comets usually coming in from below the ecliptic?
Furthermore, isn't it moving away from the sun?
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no, its Apollo class object, it is NOT a comet. Density is way too high.
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It's not 2012 DA14, you keep posting info for that asteroid which has nothing to do with this comet. PLEASE stop spamming the thread and trying to confuse people.
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Its definitly not a commet, MAss is to high. more likely iron
Calculated density given Radius of .045 KM and mass of 1.3+e08 is
~34 kg per cubic meter

THE FUCK IS THIS THING
water, and water ice is only 1kg cubic meter
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11813204


LOL, where did you get these numbers? Oh wait, I see now, you got them from here:
[link to neo.jpl.nasa.gov]
AGAIN, this is NOT 2012 D14. 2012 DA14 is an asteroid, not a comet. It has nothing to do with C/2012 V4, it is not what you see in this video.
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Down Boy! Down Boy!....there there... good Astro.

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Are comets usually coming in from below the ecliptic?
Furthermore, isn't it moving away from the sun?
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no, its Apollo class object, it is NOT a comet. Density is way too high.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11813204


It's not 2012 DA14, you keep posting info for that asteroid which has nothing to do with this comet. PLEASE stop spamming the thread and trying to confuse people.
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The video refers to the asteroid as 2012 DA14.
the info i posted is for 2012 DA14.
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What a bunch of chicken littles
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Its definitly not a commet, MAss is to high. more likely iron
Calculated density given Radius of .045 KM and mass of 1.3+e08 is
~34 kg per cubic meter

THE FUCK IS THIS THING
water, and water ice is only 1kg cubic meter
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11813204


LOL, where did you get these numbers? Oh wait, I see now, you got them from here:
[link to neo.jpl.nasa.gov]
AGAIN, this is NOT 2012 D14. 2012 DA14 is an asteroid, not a comet. It has nothing to do with C/2012 V4, it is not what you see in this video.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

Down Boy! Down Boy!....there there... good Astro.

You don't want to be sued for doggie bites, ya know?
 Quoting: Éireann


wtfdog
lol j/k
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Are comets usually coming in from below the ecliptic?
Furthermore, isn't it moving away from the sun?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12727906


no, its Apollo class object, it is NOT a comet. Density is way too high.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11813204


It's not 2012 DA14, you keep posting info for that asteroid which has nothing to do with this comet. PLEASE stop spamming the thread and trying to confuse people.
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The video refers to the asteroid as 2012 DA14.
the info i posted is for 2012 DA14.
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Well it's not 2012 DA14, it's C/2012 V4.
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What's interesting about it. The fact that ACs with no knowledge on space and a big imagination think something is up when someone like Dr. Astro who clear has a lot of knowledge on space has brought this to light.
 Quoting: Dapurps


Astro also uses gubment websites for his rebuttle.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29380270


True. The thing is, if you are of a conspiracy mind, government sites may lie.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18622835

It's interesting that those who are of a conspiracy mind refuse to believe government sources, but they'll believe almost anything anybody else says with little-to-no evidence.
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Actually, I truly follow the dictum of this site at the bottom of the page----------don't believe anything you read on this site. It's also that I don't tend to trust the Government telling me what's what either.

I was simply replying to the person above who seemed to be placing trust in Gov. sites.
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Its definitly not a commet, MAss is to high. more likely iron
Calculated density given Radius of .045 KM and mass of 1.3+e08 is
~34 kg per cubic meter

THE FUCK IS THIS THING
water, and water ice is only 1kg cubic meter
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11813204


LOL, where did you get these numbers? Oh wait, I see now, you got them from here:
[link to neo.jpl.nasa.gov]
AGAIN, this is NOT 2012 D14. 2012 DA14 is an asteroid, not a comet. It has nothing to do with C/2012 V4, it is not what you see in this video.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

Down Boy! Down Boy!....there there... good Astro.

You don't want to be sued for doggie bites, ya know?
 Quoting: Éireann


wtfdog
lol j/k
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

ilaugh
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