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"100 Reasons Why Evolution Is STUPID!"

 
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Kent Hovind is a criminal asshole.
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Kent Hovind is a criminal asshole.
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Just because he avoided paying some tax, you think the evidence he presents holds no weight? Anyway, most people here would call the taxing system criminal.
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Did we really need more proof you can make money spouting fantastical made up bullshit? Rush limbaugh does it every day.
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Explain the constant mutations of viruses and their ability to adapt.

Have that on my desk by sun down...thanks.
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Kent Hovind is a criminal asshole.
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Just because he avoided paying some tax, you think the evidence he presents holds no weight? Anyway, most people here would call the taxing system criminal.
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Old tactic; when you can't attack the information attack the person.
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Are there 100 reasons why gravity is stupid?
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Explain the constant mutations of viruses and their ability to adapt.

Have that on my desk by sun down...thanks.
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What does that have to do with monkeys turning into humans?
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Explain the constant mutations of viruses and their ability to adapt.

Have that on my desk by sun down...thanks.
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Mutation is not evolution.
Sorta like Cancer is not evolution.

Adaptation is not evolution...
Sorta like my putting on a winter coat does not make me a higher evolved human.

And I am not trolling you... I am actually a closet fan of your replies (most of the time)...

But this instance is the exception.
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Explain the constant mutations of viruses and their ability to adapt.

Have that on my desk by sun down...thanks.
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What does that have to do with monkeys turning into humans?
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Evolution does not merely encompass monkey to human progression.
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Explain the constant mutations of viruses and their ability to adapt.

Have that on my desk by sun down...thanks.
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Mutation is not evolution.
Sorta like Cancer is not evolution.

Adaptation is not evolution...
Sorta like my putting on a winter coat does not make me a higher evolved human.

And I am not trolling you... I am actually a closet fan of your replies (most of the time)...

But this instance is the exception.
 Quoting: El Tiburon


Would your ancestors have survived winters/ice ages if they didnt put a coat on?
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Re: "100 Reasons Why Evolution Is STUPID!"
Explain the constant mutations of viruses and their ability to adapt.

Have that on my desk by sun down...thanks.
 Quoting: Chip


Mutation is not evolution.
Sorta like Cancer is not evolution.

Adaptation is not evolution...
Sorta like my putting on a winter coat does not make me a higher evolved human.

And I am not trolling you... I am actually a closet fan of your replies (most of the time)...

But this instance is the exception.
 Quoting: El Tiburon


Different words do not make the process any different. Evolution is adaptation.
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. ~Arthur C. Clarke

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Explain the constant mutations of viruses and their ability to adapt.

Have that on my desk by sun down...thanks.
 Quoting: Chip


Mutation is not evolution.
Sorta like Cancer is not evolution.

Adaptation is not evolution...
Sorta like my putting on a winter coat does not make me a higher evolved human.

And I am not trolling you... I am actually a closet fan of your replies (most of the time)...

But this instance is the exception.
 Quoting: El Tiburon


The question was a great one. If you can explain what he asked, you will understand evolution better. The people who don't support evolution don't understand it. The way many people use the terms 'evolve', 'adapt', 'evolution' reveals that they don't get it yet.

Another good example to research is pesticide resistance in insects.

Evolution has never been about optimization.
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1 reason this thread is STUPID! "Christianity"
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Explain the constant mutations of viruses and their ability to adapt.

Have that on my desk by sun down...thanks.
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Mutation is not evolution.
Sorta like Cancer is not evolution.

Adaptation is not evolution...
Sorta like my putting on a winter coat does not make me a higher evolved human.

And I am not trolling you... I am actually a closet fan of your replies (most of the time)...

But this instance is the exception.
 Quoting: El Tiburon


Different words do not make the process any different. Evolution is adaptation.
 Quoting: Chip


Adaptation is NOT evolution. That's the whole point.
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Explain the constant mutations of viruses and their ability to adapt.

Have that on my desk by sun down...thanks.
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Mutation is not evolution.
Sorta like Cancer is not evolution.

Adaptation is not evolution...
Sorta like my putting on a winter coat does not make me a higher evolved human.

And I am not trolling you... I am actually a closet fan of your replies (most of the time)...

But this instance is the exception.
 Quoting: El Tiburon


Different words do not make the process any different. Evolution is adaptation.
 Quoting: Chip


Adaptation is NOT evolution. That's the whole point.
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Then what is adaptation exactly?
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God created us so we can adapt. He didn't create us to change from one species to another
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Explain the constant mutations of viruses and their ability to adapt.

Have that on my desk by sun down...thanks.
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Mutation is not evolution.
Sorta like Cancer is not evolution.

Adaptation is not evolution...
Sorta like my putting on a winter coat does not make me a higher evolved human.

And I am not trolling you... I am actually a closet fan of your replies (most of the time)...

But this instance is the exception.
 Quoting: El Tiburon


The question was a great one. If you can explain what he asked, you will understand evolution better. The people who don't support evolution don't understand it. The way many people use the terms 'evolve', 'adapt', 'evolution' reveals that they don't get it yet.

Another good example to research is pesticide resistance in insects.

Evolution has never been about optimization.
 Quoting: Parabola


But it is optimization through natural selection. So I am not sure how you can argue against that.

Having gone from a Christian to an Atheist to a hopeful Agnostic... I've seen/ pondered all points of view...

First of all, belief in evolution does not exclude religion.
Go watch the movie Prometheus. Although it's sci-fi... the beginning of that movie is a excellent analogy to how "God(s)" could have manipulated life.

Secondly, to support Atheism takes a much larger leap of faith than any belief in a creator. I love to use Movies as examples of my arguments. For this argument... I'd urge you to watch the movie TOY STORY... Atheism in it's rawest form absolutely believes the animation of the toys who star in this movie is 100% possible.
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Once and for all people evolution isn't incompatible with God.
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God created us so we can adapt. He didn't create us to change from one species to another
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Just because humans have created names for "species" does not make our perception correct. In the grand scheme humans can hardly tie their shoe...much less make sense of our origin.
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Once and for all people evolution isn't incompatible with God.
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BINGO!
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Mutation is not evolution.
Sorta like Cancer is not evolution.

Adaptation is not evolution...
Sorta like my putting on a winter coat does not make me a higher evolved human.

And I am not trolling you... I am actually a closet fan of your replies (most of the time)...

But this instance is the exception.
 Quoting: El Tiburon


Different words do not make the process any different. Evolution is adaptation.
 Quoting: Chip


Adaptation is NOT evolution. That's the whole point.
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Then what is adaptation exactly?
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Idiot...youre bringing marshmallows to a bazooka fight.
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Explain the constant mutations of viruses and their ability to adapt.

Have that on my desk by sun down...thanks.
 Quoting: El Tiburon


Mutation is not evolution.
Sorta like Cancer is not evolution.

Adaptation is not evolution...
Sorta like my putting on a winter coat does not make me a higher evolved human.

And I am not trolling you... I am actually a closet fan of your replies (most of the time)...

But this instance is the exception.
 Quoting: Parabola


Also,

Mutations are not evolution. Evolution acts on mutations. Mutations confer diversity. Genetic mutations happen all the time. Only those in your germ cells are inherited.

And, in reference to your other statement, mutations can also cause cancer - in an individual. Genes that increase the probability of cancer-causing mutations can be inherited. If you get a change in the allelic frequencies of these genes over generations, this is an evolutionary process - regardless of whether or not it is beneficial to the organisms.

And adaptation (or an adaptation), in an evolutionary sense, can refer to a process or to a characteristic, respectively.
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...much less make sense of our origin.
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Double Bingo... so why use your beliefs to negate someone else's?

The most intelligent thing one can admit is that they are completely ignorant.
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Let me know when they find remains of giraffe's with necks that show gradual change. Where are the remains of all these animals evolving? That's because they didn't. They all "appeared" at the same time according to fossil records and the earth's layers.
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Explain the constant mutations of viruses and their ability to adapt.

Have that on my desk by sun down...thanks.
 Quoting: Chip


Mutation is not evolution.
Sorta like Cancer is not evolution.

Adaptation is not evolution...
Sorta like my putting on a winter coat does not make me a higher evolved human.

And I am not trolling you... I am actually a closet fan of your replies (most of the time)...

But this instance is the exception.
 Quoting: El Tiburon


The question was a great one. If you can explain what he asked, you will understand evolution better. The people who don't support evolution don't understand it. The way many people use the terms 'evolve', 'adapt', 'evolution' reveals that they don't get it yet.

Another good example to research is pesticide resistance in insects.

Evolution has never been about optimization.
 Quoting: Parabola


But it is optimization through natural selection. So I am not sure how you can argue against that.

Having gone from a Christian to an Atheist to a hopeful Agnostic... I've seen/ pondered all points of view...

First of all, belief in evolution does not exclude religion.
Go watch the movie Prometheus. Although it's sci-fi... the beginning of that movie is a excellent analogy to how "God(s)" could have manipulated life.

Secondly, to support Atheism takes a much larger leap of faith than any belief in a creator. I love to use Movies as examples of my arguments. For this argument... I'd urge you to watch the movie TOY STORY... Atheism in it's rawest form absolutely believes the animation of the toys who star in this movie is 100% possible.
 Quoting: El Tiburon


Its not about optimization. That is a bit of an ego-centric view. Its called 'the tree of life' because of all the branches. And chance plays a huge role in determining which branches persist.

I'm not implying that evolution is the only force at work, but we can't deny it's existance.
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Virusses drive the evolution and most of them are retro
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...much less make sense of our origin.
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Double Bingo... so why use your beliefs to negate someone else's?

The most intelligent thing one can admit is that they are completely ignorant.
 Quoting: El Tiburon


True....but with deductive reasoning along the lines of occam's razor it is possible to come within range of actuality. There are obvious laws that block the fantasic version of our origin vs those avenues by which the laws are not broken. My God is powerful enough to create us without breaking any of his own laws.
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Let me know when they find remains of giraffe's with necks that show gradual change. Where are the remains of all these animals evolving? That's because they didn't. They all "appeared" at the same time according to fossil records and the earth's layers.
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Carbon dating is a sham.
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What does that have to do with monkeys turning into humans?
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No one ever said that monkeys turned into humans.

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