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Who are the true Israelites?

 
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Who are the true Israelites?
If you don't care and don't believe in the Bible, don't bother posting. Otherwise read on...

Some say it's the whites, others say it's the blacks, while a select few says Japanese. Others say it isn't a particular group. Before anyone else says why it matters I'm going to say that in the Bible it says God blesseth thee who loveth Israel. Not sure of the exact verse but it's there. I'm curious to hear what my fellow GLPers think.

Do you believe that the Jews of today are really descendents of the true Israelites? popcorn
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12/08/2012 03:14 PM
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Re: Who are the true Israelites?
One and the same law applies to everyone who sins unintentionally, whether he is a native-born Israelite or an alien. Numbers 15:29 But anyone who sins defiantly, whether native-born or alien, blasphemes the LORD, and that person must be cut off from his people.

... Mark 3:29 but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is subject to eternal condemnation.
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Re: Who are the true Israelites?
One and the same law applies to everyone who sins unintentionally, whether he is a native-born Israelite or an alien. Numbers 15:29 But anyone who sins defiantly, whether native-born or alien, blasphemes the LORD, and that person must be cut off from his people.

... Mark 3:29 but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is subject to eternal condemnation.
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Then who is Jesus talking about when he refers to the Lost Sheep? He said he came for the Lost Sheep of Israel, who are they?
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One and the same law applies to everyone who sins unintentionally, whether he is a native-born Israelite or an alien. Numbers 15:29 But anyone who sins defiantly, whether native-born or alien, blasphemes the LORD, and that person must be cut off from his people.

... Mark 3:29 but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is subject to eternal condemnation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


Then who is Jesus talking about when he refers to the Lost Sheep? He said he came for the Lost Sheep of Israel, who are they?
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For the cut-off ones:

It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners. Mark 2:17
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Re: Who are the true Israelites?
idfoffdutyflo9 The Jews that you see are the Jews that you get.
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Re: Who are the true Israelites?
My grandfathers family is from Babylonia and our last name is Israel

That's all I got for you
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:idfoffduty::flo9: The Jews that you see are the Jews that you get.
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Poor girls! they will be smitten.
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:idfoffduty::flo9: The Jews that you see are the Jews that you get.
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Metzuyan

But how is this related?

Unless one of them turns to a pigeon and then back to a woman I'm not impressed
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:idfoffduty::flo9: The Jews that you see are the Jews that you get.
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Israelites, not Israelis.
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:idfoffduty::flo9: The Jews that you see are the Jews that you get.
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You sure these aren't Khazars?
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One and the same law applies to everyone who sins unintentionally, whether he is a native-born Israelite or an alien. Numbers 15:29 But anyone who sins defiantly, whether native-born or alien, blasphemes the LORD, and that person must be cut off from his people.

... Mark 3:29 but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is subject to eternal condemnation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


Then who is Jesus talking about when he refers to the Lost Sheep? He said he came for the Lost Sheep of Israel, who are they?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29354841


Whites.
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Re: Who are the true Israelites?
the palastinians ...
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Re: Who are the true Israelites?
Well, they tend to get up in the morning, slavin' for bread, sir. So that every mouth can be fed.
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Re: Who are the true Israelites?
Who are racial descendants matters not to spiritual Israel.

Gal.3:7 Know you therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.

Gal.6:15,16 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision avails any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature. And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and on the Israel of God.

Phil.3:3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.

1 Peter 2:9 But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that you should show forth the praises of him who has called you out of darkness into his marvelous light; Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God:


You are looking for Christians.
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Re: Who are the true Israelites?
If you don't care and don't believe in the Bible, don't bother posting. Otherwise read on...

Some say it's the whites, others say it's the blacks, while a select few says Japanese. Others say it isn't a particular group. Before anyone else says why it matters I'm going to say that in the Bible it says God blesseth thee who loveth Israel. Not sure of the exact verse but it's there. I'm curious to hear what my fellow GLPers think.

Do you believe that the Jews of today are really descendents of the true Israelites? popcorn
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29354841

No I don't believe any Jews are Israelites

It is all in the bible. Originally there were 12 tribes of Israel and 2 of them were Jewish. The two tribes of Jews broke off from the nation of Israel and became the nation of Judah. In the bible you will read where the nation of Israel and the nation of Judah were at war with each other and at other times were allies.

The true Israelites are the Lost 10 tribes. No one knows who they are except God but like the bible says that one day these real Israelites will be gathered by god and led back to the "promised land" and not one shot will be fired.


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You sure these aren't Khazars?
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idf1 Your point being...
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You sure these aren't Khazars?
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:idf1: Your point being...
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They don't even go to heaven.

Their whole tribe rejects Christ.
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Re: Who are the true Israelites?
You sure these aren't Khazars?
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:idf1: Your point being...
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If they're Khazars they're not Israelites period.
I'm not denying that Israelis aren't the true Israelites but most of them practice Judaism so they can't be the ones Jesus was mentioning.
The Khazar empire converted to Judaism years after the true Israelites dispersed Roman occupied Israel.
Plus, I see Mongol features in those photos.
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They don't even go to heaven.

Their whole tribe rejects Christ.
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darkmood So did Jesus Christ ask you for your advice on this matter then.

Zec 13:9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It [is] my people: and they shall say, The LORD [is] my God.
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Re: Who are the true Israelites?
You sure these aren't Khazars?
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:idf1: Your point being...
 Quoting: Judethz


If they're Khazars they're not Israelites period.
I'm not denying that Israelis aren't the true Israelites but most of them practice Judaism so they can't be the ones Jesus was mentioning.
The Khazar empire converted to Judaism years after the true Israelites dispersed Roman occupied Israel.
Plus, I see Mongol features in those photos.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29354841




Luke 21:24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

So, there you have it. Israelites shall be led away captive into ALL nations. They would NOT choose to leave the land of Israel, but be REMOVED from it.

The land of Israel shall be occupied by the OTHER NATIONS, until their time is up.

When the Messiah returns, the times of the gentiles shall be fulfilled.


Israel is clearly NOT in the land of Israel.
The land of Israel is clearly being occupied by the OTHER nations, besides Israel.
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Re: Who are the true Israelites?
True Israelites are the 10 "lost tribes" (only lost to the unbelieving world). They are the northern 10 tribes. The Bible says they are "scattered over the whole earth". Many are in Great Britain, America,Canada,South Africa, New Zealand and Australia. These would comprise the majority of Israel.
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If you don't care and don't believe in the Bible, don't bother posting. Otherwise read on...

Some say it's the whites, others say it's the blacks, while a select few says Japanese. Others say it isn't a particular group. Before anyone else says why it matters I'm going to say that in the Bible it says God blesseth thee who loveth Israel. Not sure of the exact verse but it's there. I'm curious to hear what my fellow GLPers think.

Do you believe that the Jews of today are really descendents of the true Israelites? popcorn
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29354841

No I don't believe any Jews are Israelites

It is all in the bible. Originally there were 12 tribes of Israel and 2 of them were Jewish. The two tribes of Jews broke off from the nation of Israel and became the nation of Judah. In the bible you will read where the nation of Israel and the nation of Judah were at war with each other and at other times were allies.

The true Israelites are the Lost 10 tribes. No one knows who they are except God but like the bible says that one day these real Israelites will be gathered by god and led back to the "promised land" and not one shot will be fired.


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the 10 tribes are not israel same as the 2 tribes arent. israel is a name for the entire nation of the 12 tribes. the northern part decided to keep the name.

jews in hebrew = yehudi with the name yehuda in it, yes we are judeans, todays are israelis are mostly judah and benjamin
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You sure these aren't Khazars?
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idf1 Your point being...
 Quoting: Judethz


If they're Khazars they're not Israelites period.
I'm not denying that Israelis aren't the true Israelites but most of them practice Judaism so they can't be the ones Jesus was mentioning.
The Khazar empire converted to Judaism years after the true Israelites dispersed Roman occupied Israel.
Plus, I see Mongol features in those photos.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29354841




Luke 21:24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

So, there you have it. Israelites shall be led away captive into ALL nations. They would NOT choose to leave the land of Israel, but be REMOVED from it.

The land of Israel shall be occupied by the OTHER NATIONS, until their time is up.

When the Messiah returns, the times of the gentiles shall be fulfilled.


Israel is clearly NOT in the land of Israel.
The land of Israel is clearly being occupied by the OTHER nations, besides Israel.
 Quoting: Jacobite 3010886


how do you get lies from truth??

what you said is true! the jews were forced out by the romans, returned 2k years later, but is current day israel is not what it used to be, remember the promised land strecthes from the nile to the euphratus,,, gentiles occupy this land except the tiny strip of current day israel
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how do you get lies from truth??

what you said is true! the jews were forced out by the romans, returned 2k years later, but is current day israel is not what it used to be, remember the promised land strecthes from the nile to the euphratus,,, gentiles occupy this land except the tiny strip of current day israel


My thoughts exactly. No lie is from the truth.

Gentiles occupy Israel's land until their time is up.

Thy Kingdom come. HIS Kingdom isn't here yet. Deal with ti.

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