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Does this mean anything....good will be called evil, and evil, called good?

 
Paco Lips
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Does this mean anything....good will be called evil, and evil, called good?
Discuss....
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Yes......ISLAM.bump
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Re: Does this mean anything....good will be called evil, and evil, called good?
Here is what I am referring to...

Isaiah 5:20-23 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight! Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink: Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him!

Does it make sense? Ring true?
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Re: Does this mean anything....good will be called evil, and evil, called good?
take away the righteousness of the righteous from him?

Whats that mean?
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Re: Does this mean anything....good will be called evil, and evil, called good?
Yea, Form means space, space means form, bad implies good, good already implies bad. Can't have one without the other.
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Re: Does this mean anything....good will be called evil, and evil, called good?
Here is what I am referring to...

Isaiah 5:20-23 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight! Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink: Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him!

Does it make sense? Ring true?
 Quoting: Paco Lips 27388460


Yes, it makes sense...in evil times.

Look at today:

If you are against murdering the unborn (abortion) you are called evil by the main stream media (you are derided as being against "choice" - choosing to murder).

If you want to talk about God in public - you will be denied a permit and could get arrested (happened in Detroit, Michigan, USA), but if you want to have a gay parade...they will give you a permit out of fear of being called "insensitive."

If you try to call a holiday on December 25 "Christmas" you are told that you can't do that - that is insensitive. December 25 has to be known as a "Winter Day" If you try to celebrate a Muslim holiday - you are given the day off with pay.

If you think you should be allowed to own a gun to protect yourself - you are a "nutter" or a "lunatic." If you want to destroy the financial future of generations of by putting as many people under care of the government as possible....you are heralded as a "progressive."

I could go on...want to have a Bible study in a public school...banned...same school, but want a day for witches or gays/lesbians/transgender/bisexuals...you'll get the whole school's attention

Do you see? Good is called evil and evil is called good. God says, "Woe to those who call evil good and good evil!"
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Re: Does this mean anything....good will be called evil, and evil, called good?
Here is what I am referring to...

Isaiah 5:20-23 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight! Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink: Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him!

Does it make sense? Ring true?
 Quoting: Paco Lips 27388460


Yes, it makes sense...in evil times.

Look at today:

If you are against murdering the unborn (abortion) you are called evil by the main stream media (you are derided as being against "choice" - choosing to murder).

If you want to talk about God in public - you will be denied a permit and could get arrested (happened in Detroit, Michigan, USA), but if you want to have a gay parade...they will give you a permit out of fear of being called "insensitive."

If you try to call a holiday on December 25 "Christmas" you are told that you can't do that - that is insensitive. December 25 has to be known as a "Winter Day" If you try to celebrate a Muslim holiday - you are given the day off with pay.

If you think you should be allowed to own a gun to protect yourself - you are a "nutter" or a "lunatic." If you want to destroy the financial future of generations of by putting as many people under care of the government as possible....you are heralded as a "progressive."

I could go on...want to have a Bible study in a public school...banned...same school, but want a day for witches or gays/lesbians/transgender/bisexuals...you'll get the whole school's attention

Do you see? Good is called evil and evil is called good. God says, "Woe to those who call evil good and good evil!"
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Yes I totally get it. but what does this mean?

take away the righteousness of the righteous from him?

Whats that mean?
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When it's over, we are all gonna realize what it means. The peace and quiet will be so soothing and the mind so clear. So clear as to grasp another mind as if it were their arm. spock
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Re: Does this mean anything....good will be called evil, and evil, called good?
Here is what I am referring to...

Isaiah 5:20-23 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight! Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink: Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him!

Does it make sense? Ring true?
 Quoting: Paco Lips 27388460


Yes, it makes sense...in evil times.

Look at today:

If you are against murdering the unborn (abortion) you are called evil by the main stream media (you are derided as being against "choice" - choosing to murder).

If you want to talk about God in public - you will be denied a permit and could get arrested (happened in Detroit, Michigan, USA), but if you want to have a gay parade...they will give you a permit out of fear of being called "insensitive."

If you try to call a holiday on December 25 "Christmas" you are told that you can't do that - that is insensitive. December 25 has to be known as a "Winter Day" If you try to celebrate a Muslim holiday - you are given the day off with pay.

If you think you should be allowed to own a gun to protect yourself - you are a "nutter" or a "lunatic." If you want to destroy the financial future of generations of by putting as many people under care of the government as possible....you are heralded as a "progressive."

I could go on...want to have a Bible study in a public school...banned...same school, but want a day for witches or gays/lesbians/transgender/bisexuals...you'll get the whole school's attention

Do you see? Good is called evil and evil is called good. God says, "Woe to those who call evil good and good evil!"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24011342


Yes I totally get it. but what does this mean?

take away the righteousness of the righteous from him?

Whats that mean?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27388460


It means that they (the ones who call evil good and good evil) will be cursed by God Himself! This is NOT a good thing ;-) They will be punished for calling evil good and good evil.
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WESTBORO! best example out there.
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Re: Does this mean anything....good will be called evil, and evil, called good?
take away the righteousness of the righteous from him?

so basically they will cast the righteousness of the good people at their feet....throw it away as something to not be valued? maybe?
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Re: Does this mean anything....good will be called evil, and evil, called good?
take away the righteousness of the righteous from him?

or could it be, it means they will punish the righteous?
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Here is what I am referring to...

Isaiah 5:20-23 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight! Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink: Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him!

Does it make sense? Ring true?
 Quoting: Paco Lips 27388460


Yes, it makes sense...in evil times.

Look at today:

If you are against murdering the unborn (abortion) you are called evil by the main stream media (you are derided as being against "choice" - choosing to murder).

If you want to talk about God in public - you will be denied a permit and could get arrested (happened in Detroit, Michigan, USA), but if you want to have a gay parade...they will give you a permit out of fear of being called "insensitive."

If you try to call a holiday on December 25 "Christmas" you are told that you can't do that - that is insensitive. December 25 has to be known as a "Winter Day" If you try to celebrate a Muslim holiday - you are given the day off with pay.

If you think you should be allowed to own a gun to protect yourself - you are a "nutter" or a "lunatic." If you want to destroy the financial future of generations of by putting as many people under care of the government as possible....you are heralded as a "progressive."

I could go on...want to have a Bible study in a public school...banned...same school, but want a day for witches or gays/lesbians/transgender/bisexuals...you'll get the whole school's attention

Do you see? Good is called evil and evil is called good. God says, "Woe to those who call evil good and good evil!"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24011342


Yes I totally get it. but what does this mean?

take away the righteousness of the righteous from him?

Whats that mean?
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The world and everything in it seems to be upside down. You hit the nail on the head with your reply.
You're supposed to sit on your ass
And nod at stupid things
Man, that's hard to do
But if you don't, they'll screw you
If you do they'll screw you too
Warren Zevon
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Re: Does this mean anything....good will be called evil, and evil, called good?
found this explanation...

As prophesied by Daniel the prophet, the last days, and the perilous times that shall accompany them, shall be marked by a vast increase in worldly knowledge, but plagued by an overwhelming lack of spiritual wisdom. The discernment of the truth is an ability that has all but disappeared in our modern world because we have abandoned the idea of absolute truth, and repudiated God’s holy word, the source of truth and wisdom. Thus we are ever learning but never coming to an understanding of the truth. (Daniel 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.) Modern man places a higher priority on science and philosophy than he places on the word of God. Thus we find ourselves following such theories as evolution, and denying the existence of a Creator God and his law.
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Heres the rest of it.

Ephesians 4:17-19 This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind, Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart: Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness.
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Re: Does this mean anything....good will be called evil, and evil, called good?
It means the righteous will no longer be righteous to them. (The powerful.) I think.
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It means the righteous will no longer act righteously towards the mighty and the strong. That's what I think.
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Re: Does this mean anything....good will be called evil, and evil, called good?
it says they take away the righteousness FROM the righteous.

HOW do they do that?
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it says they take away the righteousness FROM the righteous.

HOW do they do that?
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I don't see that. It says "from him" and refers back to the strong. The righteousness of the righteous is taken from "him". Sorry I can't explain it better.
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actually, now that I thought about it a little more. its the mingled drink that takes the righteousness from the righteous from him. basically what I just said before, but the drinking is the cause.
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backwards LIVE = EVIL ...
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it says they take away the righteousness FROM the righteous.

HOW do they do that?
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Through lying and deceit and injustice and wickedness...

Through unjust balances and unrighteous judgement....
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it says they take away the righteousness FROM the righteous.

HOW do they do that?
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By manipulation...convincing them that they are wrong.

Evil becomes good...corporate greed/CEOs rewarded, bankers theft rewarded

Good becomes evil...good means anything love-based so an example would be those religions that condemn all other (love-based) faith as "satanic"
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Re: Does this mean anything....good will be called evil, and evil, called good?
yes it means the now we are experiencing that needs to be destroyed.
the real reason most people on this planet are the most ignorant gullible people that have ever lived is a little thing called the

TELL-LIE-VISION

television

when you watch it, you put the I(you) in television and you get tel(i)evision

tell lie vision
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Re: Does this mean anything....good will be called evil, and evil, called good?
Hummm well I take it to mean that every thing will come to light.For example we see people that some know are really mean and nasty in their ways but do just enough good to fool others into thinking they are a great person.Then we know people who have been unjustly accused and suffer because of it.
I think at some point everything will come to light and shown for exactly what it is.
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It means we are approaching the return of our Lord:

3 But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. 2 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, 3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, 4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with such people.
 Quoting: 2 Timothy 3:4
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Colossians 3:5-6 Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry: For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:

Mark 7:21-23 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, (marital and family assaults) fornications, (sexual deviancy) murders, (wars) thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, (lying) lasciviousness, (wantonness-indulgent, malicious, viceful) an evil eye, (terror) blasphemy, pride, foolishness: All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.
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It means it is time to fight, to come with the sward of justice.
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Here is what I am referring to...

Isaiah 5:20-23 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight! Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink: Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him!

Does it make sense? Ring true?
 Quoting: Paco Lips 27388460


yes

everything that was called immoral and evil is now good.

abortion
homosexuality
debachery
lawlessness
slander
Godlessness
Susie

For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21
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found this too.

Psalms 11:2-3 For, lo, the wicked bend their bow, they make ready their arrow upon the string, that they may privily shoot at the upright in heart. If the foundations be destroyed,--- what can the righteous do?

The end times conspiracy of the Antichrist involves a subtle scheme to target the true bride of Christ. The Psalmist pinpoints the fact that the wicked are privily (secretly) used by the powers of darkness to lay snares for righteous people and for righteous nations, to choke off the restraining power of the Holy Spirit. Paul alluded to this conspiracy of the evil one becoming a prevailing influence in the Last Days. Jesus also taught that the Last Days would be so perilous, that he even wondered aloud if he would find any faith on the earth when he returned. (Luke 18:8) The true church of the Last Days can expect to find itself seemingly to be up against insurmountable odds, but the Lord has promised that he would rescue his church at the midnight hour! Therefore, Jesus left as last command to watch, and be on the alert for the perils of end time Satanic assaults. If the church can be so deceived, what possible hope can any civil government have against the onslaught of such sinister forces of spiritual darkness?
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Re: Does this mean anything....good will be called evil, and evil, called good?
Damn good question "OP".

Frankly ... look around you.
All things that have been considered evil are now considered good (or at least ok).

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