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12/08/2012 03:26 PM
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Freemason?
Hey guys, I asked my uncle if he was a freemason, and I'm curious your thoughts based on the facts and his reaction.

First we'll start with the facts:
-My uncle is 56 years old
-He's a master woodworker
-with my other uncle, he built an 18th century replica ship (you can find pics online it's called the sea lion)
-He's openly expressed feelings typical of a pedophile
-is into drugs (regularly drinks and smokes pot)
-One of his beer mugs I saw him using, had a crest on it, with two hands shaking (appeared to me to be a masonic handshake but can't say for sure)
-he admits a lot of interesting things like inside job 9/11, the two party system puppet show, etc.

Now for the reaction:
When I asked him, his expression was was basically like "wow," very quiet, and he proceeded to say he had NO idea what even was, he had never heard of freemasonry. I drew him the logo with the compass, G, and Square, and he claimed to have never seen it before. Then he proceeded to basically tell me how weird it was to even ask or talk about such a subject,and basically told me he's was concerned about me for asking.


Thoughts?
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12/08/2012 03:29 PM
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he even pulled up google and typed in freemason, but didn't click any link for info, just closed it. kinda seemed like a show to me
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12/08/2012 03:32 PM
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He is out ta gitcha!Idol1monster
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12/08/2012 03:36 PM
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He is out ta gitcha!Idol1monster
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Naa I don't think so, but I do think he is a freemason.. what do you guys think?
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12/08/2012 03:37 PM
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[link to www.masonic-lodge-of-education.com]
^^ definitely the pic of the handshake on the mug
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12/08/2012 03:40 PM
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Ask him who;5a Guards The Entrance To The Fifth Dimension.?
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12/08/2012 03:40 PM
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The ship has set sail and the course has been set. 5a
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12/08/2012 03:42 PM
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No, seriously guys...

Check out this ship he built

[link to www.sealionprojectltd.com]

Quite impressive..
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12/08/2012 03:48 PM
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Come on guys, give a brother a hand here, need some input
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12/08/2012 04:04 PM
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if you ask they are allowed to tell, so doubt he is. and if your interested just give your local lodge a knock. I here there numbers are falling so they are quite eagor for newbies
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12/08/2012 04:20 PM
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bump for the included picture of the nasty ship my uncle built
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12/08/2012 04:21 PM
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He is out ta gitcha!Idol1monster
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Naa I don't think so, but I do think he is a freemason.. what do you guys think?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29232836


If he were a Mason, he would tell you. Personally, I am Mason and a Companion of the HRA and I can tell you FOR SURE that (outside of Nazi Germany), no Mason would deny his affiliation. There are times when--for his own safety, such as in Nazi territories during WWII--a Mason will deny being a brother of the craft. But outside of a fascist society, it won't happen.
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It depends. Circles within ranks. Like all things of knowledge, the more you have, the less you are likely to share.
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bumpselephantbumpbumps
-Steve
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buffalobump
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Why even bump? You have your answer. Your uncle is not a Mason. Masons don't deny their affiliation unless they are in danger. Also, an uncle would never deny his affiliation to his own family member. The guy sounds cool but he's not a Mason.
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Why even bump? You have your answer. Your uncle is not a Mason. Masons don't deny their affiliation unless they are in danger. Also, an uncle would never deny his affiliation to his own family member. The guy sounds cool but he's not a Mason.
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that is unless everyone that responded including you are masons protecting my uncles secret identity of brotherhood.

hiding
-Steve
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What pedophile feelings has he expressed?

Why do you care if he is?

Maybe he became one a long time ago and regrets it.
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What pedophile feelings has he expressed?

Why do you care if he is?

Maybe he became one a long time ago and regrets it.
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I've just seen him stare, and make perverted comments to me about girls that can't be older than 12-13. The only reason I 'care' is because he fits the bill so I just wondered if he in fact was one.
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Why even bump? You have your answer. Your uncle is not a Mason. Masons don't deny their affiliation unless they are in danger. Also, an uncle would never deny his affiliation to his own family member. The guy sounds cool but he's not a Mason.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28988538


that is unless everyone that responded including you are masons protecting my uncles secret identity of brotherhood.

hiding
 Quoting: DesignLov3


I am a Mason as I stated earlier. That's why I can answer your question with some certainty. If Masonic affiliation is some kind of secret, then why do many of us wear our blue lodge rings? Why do many of us have badges on our cars? Why do many of us get our pictures in the paper when we're raised as Masons?

Just think about it. This is a fraternity we're talking about--not some kind of coven. I realize that your paranoia won't allow you to believe me but here's the truth: The stuff you read about Masonry on the web is bsflag
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12/08/2012 04:59 PM
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Well, he seems a little old but I can't complain if he's free.

I'll take him! Where can I pick up my free mason?

I am eager to get to work building things using his ancient secret knowledge.
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buffalobump
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Why even bump? You have your answer. Your uncle is not a Mason. Masons don't deny their affiliation unless they are in danger. Also, an uncle would never deny his affiliation to his own family member. The guy sounds cool but he's not a Mason.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28988538


that is unless everyone that responded including you are masons protecting my uncles secret identity of brotherhood.

hiding
 Quoting: DesignLov3


I am a Mason as I stated earlier. That's why I can answer your question with some certainty. If Masonic affiliation is some kind of secret, then why do many of us wear our blue lodge rings? Why do many of us have badges on our cars? Why do many of us get our pictures in the paper when we're raised as Masons?

Just think about it. This is a fraternity we're talking about--not some kind of coven. I realize that your paranoia won't allow you to believe me but here's the truth: The stuff you read about Masonry on the web is bsflag
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This is lies. First of all founding fathers were FM. Albert Pike, buried at the grand lodge in washington (and who ordered and arranged the 3 world wars in his book morals and dogma), talked about porch masons, who are low level masons, who think they are doing good, and publically appraised, and said how they are, and deserve to be deceived. Free masons, at the highest echelon are Luciferian, and do run the world. There is no disputing these facts. Do some thorough scientific research and reasoning.
-Steve
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But it's not my resposibility to defend Masonry. I'd recommend meeting some men that you KNOW are Masons. See how they act. Watch how they live their lives.
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Well, he seems a little old but I can't complain if he's free.

I'll take him! Where can I pick up my free mason?

I am eager to get to work building things using his ancient secret knowledge.
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lol. Since he's divorced and lost everything, If you got tools and a wood-shop, I'm willing to bet he's in.
-Steve
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But it's not my resposibility to defend Masonry. I'd recommend meeting some men that you KNOW are Masons. See how they act. Watch how they live their lives.
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I posted in response to your last message but you may have missed it, so i'll quote myself ....

"This is lies. First of all founding fathers were FM. Albert Pike, buried at the grand lodge in washington (and who ordered and arranged the 3 world wars in his book morals and dogma), talked about porch masons, who are low level masons, who think they are doing good, and publically appraised, and said how they are, and deserve to be deceived. Free masons, at the highest echelon are Luciferian, and do run the world. There is no disputing these facts. Do some thorough scientific research and reasoning.
"
-Steve
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Well, he seems a little old but I can't complain if he's free.

I'll take him! Where can I pick up my free mason?

I am eager to get to work building things using his ancient secret knowledge.
 Quoting: Leslie Zevo


lol. Since he's divorced and lost everything, If you got tools and a wood-shop, I'm willing to bet he's in.
 Quoting: DesignLov3


Ah, sorry, I thought that came with him. I would probably have to feed him too... nevermind!
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Well, he seems a little old but I can't complain if he's free.

I'll take him! Where can I pick up my free mason?

I am eager to get to work building things using his ancient secret knowledge.
 Quoting: Leslie Zevo


lol. Since he's divorced and lost everything, If you got tools and a wood-shop, I'm willing to bet he's in.
 Quoting: DesignLov3


Ah, sorry, I thought that came with him. I would probably have to feed him too... nevermind!
 Quoting: Leslie Zevo


my poor uncle, now he's gonna have to eat sprouts forever (which he grows himself I might add)

Last Edited by DesignLov3 on 12/08/2012 05:09 PM
-Steve
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But it's not my resposibility to defend Masonry. I'd recommend meeting some men that you KNOW are Masons. See how they act. Watch how they live their lives.
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I posted in response to your last message but you may have missed it, so i'll quote myself ....

"This is lies. First of all founding fathers were FM. Albert Pike, buried at the grand lodge in washington (and who ordered and arranged the 3 world wars in his book morals and dogma), talked about porch masons, who are low level masons, who think they are doing good, and publically appraised, and said how they are, and deserve to be deceived. Free masons, at the highest echelon are Luciferian, and do run the world. There is no disputing these facts. Do some thorough scientific research and reasoning.
"
 Quoting: DesignLov3


We're forbidden from being drawn in to debating about the craft. I will say this, though: Albert Pike ran the Southern Jurisdiction of the Scottish Rite. This is not "Masonry" per se. This is an additional club for men who are Masons. I am not affiliated with this group. I am affiliated with an AF&AM blue lodge and also with the York Rite as a Companion of the HRA.

Albert Pike was one man. He wrote a long-winded opinion piece on Masonry and the Scottish Rite. I own a copy and I have read it. It's not the easiest reading.

Albert Pike, like a lot of "intellectuals" (think college professors), thought his own book was such "genius" that he gave his book as a gift to all SPRSs (32 deg). Modesty wasn't this man's strong suit.

Just remember that Masonry had a long history before Pike came along. And Masonry's future has nothing to do with Pike or his book. Think about this: Morals and Dogma is a treatise on "Masonry" as much as the New Jerusalem Calendar is a treatise on "Christianity". Two loonies.
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In other words, if New Jerusalem Russ had ANY type of authority in the Christian Church, you know he would give his "ingenius" calendar to all the Christians. Know what I'm sayin?
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But it's not my resposibility to defend Masonry. I'd recommend meeting some men that you KNOW are Masons. See how they act. Watch how they live their lives.
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I posted in response to your last message but you may have missed it, so i'll quote myself ....

"This is lies. First of all founding fathers were FM. Albert Pike, buried at the grand lodge in washington (and who ordered and arranged the 3 world wars in his book morals and dogma), talked about porch masons, who are low level masons, who think they are doing good, and publically appraised, and said how they are, and deserve to be deceived. Free masons, at the highest echelon are Luciferian, and do run the world. There is no disputing these facts. Do some thorough scientific research and reasoning.
"
 Quoting: DesignLov3


We're forbidden from being drawn in to debating about the craft. I will say this, though: Albert Pike ran the Southern Jurisdiction of the Scottish Rite. This is not "Masonry" per se. This is an additional club for men who are Masons. I am not affiliated with this group. I am affiliated with an AF&AM blue lodge and also with the York Rite as a Companion of the HRA.

Albert Pike was one man. He wrote a long-winded opinion piece on Masonry and the Scottish Rite. I own a copy and I have read it. It's not the easiest reading.

Albert Pike, like a lot of "intellectuals" (think college professors), thought his own book was such "genius" that he gave his book as a gift to all SPRSs (32 deg). Modesty wasn't this man's strong suit.

Just remember that Masonry had a long history before Pike came along. And Masonry's future has nothing to do with Pike or his book. Think about this: Morals and Dogma is a treatise on "Masonry" as much as the New Jerusalem Calendar is a treatise on "Christianity". Two loonies.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28988538

No matter how you look at it, the facts are indisputable. You can even look at all the masonic symbolism in pop culture, music etc. There's unlimited fact and proof that Freemasons, the illuminati, jesuits, zionists, the elite, etc, are more then just a small little group of innocent nice men, they have an agenda, that yes, goes back very far.
-Steve
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Op, what exactly are you asking for? Some secret? That is the deal with the societies. Trust is earned, not given. Regardless of family, blood, or friendship. There are no bonds outside the circle.

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