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In other words, if New Jerusalem Russ had ANY type of authority in the Christian Church, you know he would give his "ingenius" calendar to all the Christians. Know what I'm sayin?
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As far as Christianity is concerned, there is only one voice that caries and formality and truth, and it's not through the papacy, protestantism, or any other mouth/book of man. That truth is the Holy Bible (KJV)
-Steve
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Op, what exactly are you asking for? Some secret? That is the deal with the societies. Trust is earned, not given. Regardless of family, blood, or friendship. There are no bonds outside the circle.
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I was more or less curious for opinions from people on this forum (whether self-proclaimed masons or not) from a behavioral perspective concerning the OP, and following couple posts, if it's just me or his denial truly seems fishy. As far as why I want to know, because as I previously stated, because he appears to fit the bill, and him and I used to spend a lot of time together.
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Why even bump? You have your answer. Your uncle is not a Mason. Masons don't deny their affiliation unless they are in danger. Also, an uncle would never deny his affiliation to his own family member. The guy sounds cool but he's not a Mason.
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that is unless everyone that responded including you are masons protecting my uncles secret identity of brotherhood.

hiding
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I am a Mason as I stated earlier. That's why I can answer your question with some certainty. If Masonic affiliation is some kind of secret, then why do many of us wear our blue lodge rings? Why do many of us have badges on our cars? Why do many of us get our pictures in the paper when we're raised as Masons?

Just think about it. This is a fraternity we're talking about--not some kind of coven. I realize that your paranoia won't allow you to believe me but here's the truth: The stuff you read about Masonry on the web is bsflag
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[link to wtfrly.com]
here's an interesting page I just found on another post from a GLP'r exposing some these societies agenda being fulfilled globally. As previously stated, at the highest echelon, a coven for sure.
-Steve
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But it's not my resposibility to defend Masonry. I'd recommend meeting some men that you KNOW are Masons. See how they act. Watch how they live their lives.
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I posted in response to your last message but you may have missed it, so i'll quote myself ....

"This is lies. First of all founding fathers were FM. Albert Pike, buried at the grand lodge in washington (and who ordered and arranged the 3 world wars in his book morals and dogma), talked about porch masons, who are low level masons, who think they are doing good, and publically appraised, and said how they are, and deserve to be deceived. Free masons, at the highest echelon are Luciferian, and do run the world. There is no disputing these facts. Do some thorough scientific research and reasoning.
"
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We're forbidden from being drawn in to debating about the craft. I will say this, though: Albert Pike ran the Southern Jurisdiction of the Scottish Rite. This is not "Masonry" per se. This is an additional club for men who are Masons. I am not affiliated with this group. I am affiliated with an AF&AM blue lodge and also with the York Rite as a Companion of the HRA.

Albert Pike was one man. He wrote a long-winded opinion piece on Masonry and the Scottish Rite. I own a copy and I have read it. It's not the easiest reading.

Albert Pike, like a lot of "intellectuals" (think college professors), thought his own book was such "genius" that he gave his book as a gift to all SPRSs (32 deg). Modesty wasn't this man's strong suit.

Just remember that Masonry had a long history before Pike came along. And Masonry's future has nothing to do with Pike or his book. Think about this: Morals and Dogma is a treatise on "Masonry" as much as the New Jerusalem Calendar is a treatise on "Christianity". Two loonies.
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No matter how you look at it, the facts are indisputable. You can even look at all the masonic symbolism in pop culture, music etc. There's unlimited fact and proof that Freemasons, the illuminati, jesuits, zionists, the elite, etc, are more then just a small little group of innocent nice men, they have an agenda, that yes, goes back very far.
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Thanks to the internet, it's become part of pop culture to associate "evil", "wealth" and "devil worship" with Masonry and its symbolism. Pop culture icons like Jay-Z, Ke$ha and others benefit from an "illuminati" image. They want to seem rich, powerful and mysterious. The Rolling Stones used to do the same crap.

But these days--thanks to the prevelence of internet conspiracies and such--the focus has changed to the "illuminati" and its supposed connection to Masonry.

Think about the many heavy metal bands in the 70s and 80s that used Catholic symbolism and imagery.
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Op, what exactly are you asking for? Some secret? That is the deal with the societies. Trust is earned, not given. Regardless of family, blood, or friendship. There are no bonds outside the circle.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24532632


I was more or less curious for opinions from people on this forum (whether self-proclaimed masons or not) from a behavioral perspective concerning the OP, and following couple posts, if it's just me or his denial truly seems fishy. As far as why I want to know, because as I previously stated, because he appears to fit the bill, and him and I used to spend a lot of time together.
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If he was one he probably would have tried to recruit or molest you when you were younger. Him leering at underaged girls means he probably is not one. He may not realize the girls are so young.

Then again sometimes they make a big deal about fake lusting after females as part of their cover.

Freemasons are homo-pedos and prefer boys. They loathe women and intercourse with them. Its only to procreate and have kids to show off at church.

He may have been hurt and disturbed that you thought he was one. If he never molested you or asked you to join, he probably is not one.



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Why even bump? You have your answer. Your uncle is not a Mason. Masons don't deny their affiliation unless they are in danger. Also, an uncle would never deny his affiliation to his own family member. The guy sounds cool but he's not a Mason.
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that is unless everyone that responded including you are masons protecting my uncles secret identity of brotherhood.

hiding
 Quoting: DesignLov3


I am a Mason as I stated earlier. That's why I can answer your question with some certainty. If Masonic affiliation is some kind of secret, then why do many of us wear our blue lodge rings? Why do many of us have badges on our cars? Why do many of us get our pictures in the paper when we're raised as Masons?

Just think about it. This is a fraternity we're talking about--not some kind of coven. I realize that your paranoia won't allow you to believe me but here's the truth: The stuff you read about Masonry on the web is bsflag
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28988538


[link to wtfrly.com]
here's an interesting page I just found on another post from a GLP'r exposing some these societies agenda being fulfilled globally. As previously stated, at the highest echelon, a coven for sure.
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Once your at the top of the food chain, not only do learn who the head commander is (lucifer) but in fact the one world system of government/religion that they are ushering in is not only luciferian in nature, but was prophesied in the Bible.
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Op, what exactly are you asking for? Some secret? That is the deal with the societies. Trust is earned, not given. Regardless of family, blood, or friendship. There are no bonds outside the circle.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24532632


I was more or less curious for opinions from people on this forum (whether self-proclaimed masons or not) from a behavioral perspective concerning the OP, and following couple posts, if it's just me or his denial truly seems fishy. As far as why I want to know, because as I previously stated, because he appears to fit the bill, and him and I used to spend a lot of time together.
 Quoting: DesignLov3


If he was one he probably would have tried to recruit or molest you when you were younger. Him leering at underaged girls means he probably is not one. He may not realize the girls are so young.

Then again sometimes they make a big deal about fake lusting after females as part of their cover.

Freemasons are homo-pedos and prefer boys. They loathe women and intercourse with them. Its only to procreate and have kids to show off at church.

He may have been hurt and disturbed that you thought he was one. If he never molested you or asked you to join, he probably is not one.



Idol1
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Well firstly, when we started spending time together I was like 20-22 so he couldn't exactly try to molest me. But however regarding the homosexuality thing, that's an interesting point. Not only does he tell stories about 'touching pee-pee's" with his friends when he was younger, but he had tried to get me to sleep in his bed with him when I'd stay over, and actually had gotten a couple of my friends too on different ocassions.

EDIT: and regarding be hurt by me asking, he claimed to have no idea what a mason was, and that he had never even seen the "Idol1" logo before

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In other words, if New Jerusalem Russ had ANY type of authority in the Christian Church, you know he would give his "ingenius" calendar to all the Christians. Know what I'm sayin?
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As far as Christianity is concerned, there is only one voice that caries and formality and truth, and it's not through the papacy, protestantism, or any other mouth/book of man. That truth is the Holy Bible (KJV)
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Well, that's your opinion (about the KJV) but I hope you don't mind argument from other Christians about that.

But that aside, here is what I'm talking about:

Joyce Meyers writes a book. She is proud of this book. She gives a copy to each member of her church. After she dies, the church keeps the tradition of giving this book to every new member of the church for old times sake.

Would that be so unusual?
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In other words, if New Jerusalem Russ had ANY type of authority in the Christian Church, you know he would give his "ingenius" calendar to all the Christians. Know what I'm sayin?
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As far as Christianity is concerned, there is only one voice that caries and formality and truth, and it's not through the papacy, protestantism, or any other mouth/book of man. That truth is the Holy Bible (KJV)
 Quoting: DesignLov3


Well, that's your opinion (about the KJV) but I hope you don't mind argument from other Christians about that.

But that aside, here is what I'm talking about:

Joyce Meyers writes a book. She is proud of this book. She gives a copy to each member of her church. After she dies, the church keeps the tradition of giving this book to every new member of the church for old times sake.

Would that be so unusual?
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I can't say I'm familiar with Joyce Meyers or her book. However I can tell you this; one church that teaches based on "tradition" is the catholic church, which deems its self a greater authority than Christ, teaches ridiculous false, blasphemous, deceptive doctrine, and is literally anti-christ, and one of the biggest persecutors of true Christians and secular alike in throughout history. And Christianity is about a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, not about church, or extra-biblical doctrine, etc.

EDIT: and BTW the catholic church is in bed with the the masons via knights of malta, knights templar, jesuits, etc.

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Op, what exactly are you asking for? Some secret? That is the deal with the societies. Trust is earned, not given. Regardless of family, blood, or friendship. There are no bonds outside the circle.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24532632


I was more or less curious for opinions from people on this forum (whether self-proclaimed masons or not) from a behavioral perspective concerning the OP, and following couple posts, if it's just me or his denial truly seems fishy. As far as why I want to know, because as I previously stated, because he appears to fit the bill, and him and I used to spend a lot of time together.
 Quoting: DesignLov3


If he was one he probably would have tried to recruit or molest you when you were younger. Him leering at underaged girls means he probably is not one. He may not realize the girls are so young.

Then again sometimes they make a big deal about fake lusting after females as part of their cover.

Freemasons are homo-pedos and prefer boys. They loathe women and intercourse with them. Its only to procreate and have kids to show off at church.

He may have been hurt and disturbed that you thought he was one. If he never molested you or asked you to join, he probably is not one.



Idol1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4714791

Well firstly, when we started spending time together I was like 20-22 so he couldn't exactly try to molest me. But however regarding the homosexuality thing, that's an interesting point. Not only does he tell stories about 'touching pee-pee's" with his friends when he was younger, but he had tried to get me to sleep in his bed with him when I'd stay over, and actually had gotten a couple of my friends too on different ocassions.

EDIT: and regarding be hurt by me asking, he claimed to have no idea what a mason was, and that he had never even seen the "Idol1" logo before
 Quoting: DesignLov3


Ewww. He sounds nasty enough to be one. He probably knew you would not approve or want to join so he lied about it.
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Lots of Americans drink, and many smoke pot. But Masons are very social ladder climbers and drink a lot at places like the Moose and Elk clubs. They tend to have lots of 'friends' from those places.

You also could have just asked about the dollar bill symbolism.

However, when accusing someone of such a thing, it is like asking someone if they are a homosexual. They will respond defensively unless they feel like openly admitting they are Masons. But if they are not and were asked if they were homosexual they become defensive since you are basically telling them you do not like them.
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I was more or less curious for opinions from people on this forum (whether self-proclaimed masons or not) from a behavioral perspective concerning the OP, and following couple posts, if it's just me or his denial truly seems fishy. As far as why I want to know, because as I previously stated, because he appears to fit the bill, and him and I used to spend a lot of time together.
 Quoting: DesignLov3


If he was one he probably would have tried to recruit or molest you when you were younger. Him leering at underaged girls means he probably is not one. He may not realize the girls are so young.

Then again sometimes they make a big deal about fake lusting after females as part of their cover.

Freemasons are homo-pedos and prefer boys. They loathe women and intercourse with them. Its only to procreate and have kids to show off at church.

He may have been hurt and disturbed that you thought he was one. If he never molested you or asked you to join, he probably is not one.



Idol1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4714791

Well firstly, when we started spending time together I was like 20-22 so he couldn't exactly try to molest me. But however regarding the homosexuality thing, that's an interesting point. Not only does he tell stories about 'touching pee-pee's" with his friends when he was younger, but he had tried to get me to sleep in his bed with him when I'd stay over, and actually had gotten a couple of my friends too on different ocassions.

EDIT: and regarding be hurt by me asking, he claimed to have no idea what a mason was, and that he had never even seen the "Idol1" logo before
 Quoting: DesignLov3


Ewww. He sounds nasty enough to be one. He probably knew you would not approve or want to join so he lied about it.
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Yeah that's kinda what I was thinking looking at the big picture
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thanks all who responded for your thoughts
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I find it hard to believe that a 56 year old man has never heard of masons. Also, what kind of comments does he make that would be like a pedophile? That would concern me more then anything else.
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Why even bump? You have your answer. Your uncle is not a Mason. Masons don't deny their affiliation unless they are in danger. Also, an uncle would never deny his affiliation to his own family member. The guy sounds cool but he's not a Mason.
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that is unless everyone that responded including you are masons protecting my uncles secret identity of brotherhood.

hiding
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I am a Mason as I stated earlier. That's why I can answer your question with some certainty. If Masonic affiliation is some kind of secret, then why do many of us wear our blue lodge rings? Why do many of us have badges on our cars? Why do many of us get our pictures in the paper when we're raised as Masons?

Just think about it. This is a fraternity we're talking about--not some kind of coven. I realize that your paranoia won't allow you to believe me but here's the truth: The stuff you read about Masonry on the web is bsflag
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RIGHT!!! Because EVERYONE knows that ALL those excerpts from Masonic literature aren't REAL!!
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I find it hard to believe that a 56 year old man has never heard of masons. Also, what kind of comments does he make that would be like a pedophile? That would concern me more then anything else.
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Yep that's exactly how I felt, especially considering that there's a masonic lodge right around the corner from the house he grew up in. Not only that but he's an "intellectual" type and also been in the education system for years. As far as the pedophilia comments, I've just seen him stare, and make perverted comments to me about girls that can't be older than 12-13.

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Why even bump? You have your answer. Your uncle is not a Mason. Masons don't deny their affiliation unless they are in danger. Also, an uncle would never deny his affiliation to his own family member. The guy sounds cool but he's not a Mason.
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that is unless everyone that responded including you are masons protecting my uncles secret identity of brotherhood.

hiding
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I am a Mason as I stated earlier. That's why I can answer your question with some certainty. If Masonic affiliation is some kind of secret, then why do many of us wear our blue lodge rings? Why do many of us have badges on our cars? Why do many of us get our pictures in the paper when we're raised as Masons?

Just think about it. This is a fraternity we're talking about--not some kind of coven. I realize that your paranoia won't allow you to believe me but here's the truth: The stuff you read about Masonry on the web is bsflag
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RIGHT!!! Because EVERYONE knows that ALL those excerpts from Masonic literature aren't REAL!!
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Exactly!!
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Lots of Americans drink, and many smoke pot. But Masons are very social ladder climbers and drink a lot at places like the Moose and Elk clubs. They tend to have lots of 'friends' from those places.

You also could have just asked about the dollar bill symbolism.

However, when accusing someone of such a thing, it is like asking someone if they are a homosexual. They will respond defensively unless they feel like openly admitting they are Masons. But if they are not and were asked if they were homosexual they become defensive since you are basically telling them you do not like them.
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Makes sesnse, thanks for your input
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Oh yeah.. and BTW. For all you scoffers that say that freemasonry is no big deal blah blah blah whatever. check out this out.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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Oh yeah.. and BTW. For all you scoffers that say that freemasonry is no big deal blah blah blah whatever. check out this out.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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That's a well-known propaganda film. It is a drama meant to coerce opinions like a Chick Tract. Or Reefer Madness.
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Oh yeah.. and BTW. For all you scoffers that say that freemasonry is no big deal blah blah blah whatever. check out this out.

[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29232836


That's a well-known propaganda film. It is a drama meant to coerce opinions like a Chick Tract. Or Reefer Madness.
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To quote myself from earlier..

No matter how you look at it, the facts are indisputable. You can even look at all the masonic symbolism in pop culture, music etc. There's unlimited fact and proof that Freemasons, the illuminati, jesuits, zionists, the elite, etc, are more then just a small little group of innocent nice men, they have an agenda, that yes, goes back very far.

to go a bit further, the same powers not only control the music industry, but all aspects of society included but not limited to, the education system, the major news networks and papers, the major food corporations, etc etc.

The truth is out there, and only the truth will set you free. Yes there is a lot dis/mis-info. But as it is written all those who seek the truth with all there heart will find it. You can deny it all day long. It's also written that those who are unprincipled and have pleasure in unrighteousness will be given over to the lies of the world. The New World Order was prophesied in the Bible, and it WILL come to pass. It is also written that EVERY knee will bow to the King of kings (this includes non-believers) Jesus Christ is Lord of lords, and the Saviour for those who believe. We all know how this ends including satan himself. All you have to do is open up the Bible. After over 6,000 years of man's failed attempt at self-government, the age of mankind is coming to an end. God's way is the only way that produces good fruit. Jesus Christ our high priest and brother is going to establish his kingdom for the elect. Repent and give your life to Jesus before it's to late. I hope that God deals with you mercifully, and opens your eyes to the truth.
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Oh yeah.. and BTW. For all you scoffers that say that freemasonry is no big deal blah blah blah whatever. check out this out.

[link to www.youtube.com]
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That's a well-known propaganda film. It is a drama meant to coerce opinions like a Chick Tract. Or Reefer Madness.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28988538

To quote myself from earlier..

No matter how you look at it, the facts are indisputable. You can even look at all the masonic symbolism in pop culture, music etc. There's unlimited fact and proof that Freemasons, the illuminati, jesuits, zionists, the elite, etc, are more then just a small little group of innocent nice men, they have an agenda, that yes, goes back very far.

to go a bit further, the same powers not only control the music industry, but all aspects of society included but not limited to, the education system, the major news networks and papers, the major food corporations, etc etc.

The truth is out there, and only the truth will set you free. Yes there is a lot dis/mis-info. But as it is written all those who seek the truth with all there heart will find it. You can deny it all day long. It's also written that those who are unprincipled and have pleasure in unrighteousness will be given over to the lies of the world. The New World Order was prophesied in the Bible, and it WILL come to pass. It is also written that EVERY knee will bow to the King of kings (this includes non-believers) Jesus Christ is Lord of lords, and the Saviour for those who believe. We all know how this ends including satan himself. All you have to do is open up the Bible. After over 6,000 years of man's failed attempt at self-government, the age of mankind is coming to an end. God's way is the only way that produces good fruit. Jesus Christ our high priest and brother is going to establish his kingdom for the elect. Repent and give your life to Jesus before it's to late. I hope that God deals with you mercifully, and opens your eyes to the truth.
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buffalobump
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