Sunday is the 7th day Sabbath, Saith God Almighty. The Lord of hosts.

Dapanji - Show Time

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Deuteronomy 18: [17] And the Lord said to me: They have spoken all things well. [18] I will raise them up a prophet out of the midst of their brethren like to thee: and I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I shall command him.

[19] And he that will not hear his words, which he shall speak in my name, I will be the revenger.

[20] But the prophet, who being corrupted with pride, shall speak in my name things that I did not command him to say, or in the name of strange gods, shall be slain.

[21] And if in silent thought thou answer: How shall I know the word that the Lord hath not spoken?

[22] Thou shalt have this sign: Whatsoever that same prophet foretelleth in the name of the Lord, and it cometh not to pass: that thing the Lord hath not spoken, but the prophet hath forged it by the pride of his mind: and therefore thou shalt not fear him.

Read verse 20. Its speaking of yourself (especially the fist half of the verse)

Deuteronomy 4:2
2 Do not add to what I command you and do not subtract from it, but keep the commands of the Lord your God that I give you.

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Psalms 3: [2] Why, O Lord, are they multiplied that afflict me? many are they who rise up against me. [3] Many say to my soul: There is no salvation for him in his God.

[4] But thou, O Lord art my protector, my glory, and the lifter up of my head.

[5] I have cried to the Lord with my voice: and he hath heard me from his holy hill.

[6] I have slept and taken my rest: and I have risen up, because the Lord hath protected me.

[7] I will not fear thousands of the people, surrounding me: arise, O Lord; save me, O my God.

[8] For thou hast struck all them who are my adversaries without cause: thou hast broken the teeth of sinners.

[9] Salvation is of the Lord: and thy blessing is upon thy people.

Ecclesiasticus 10: [14] The beginning of the pride of man, is to fall off from God: [15] Because his heart is departed from him that made him: for pride is the beginning of all sin: he that holdeth it, shall be filled with maledictions, and it shall ruin him in the end.

[16] Therefore hath the Lord disgraced the assemblies of the wicked, and hath utterly destroyed them.

[17] God hath overturned the thrones of proud princes, and hath set up the meek in their stead. [18] God hath made the roots of proud nations to wither, and hath planted the humble of these nations.

[19] The Lord hath overthrown the lands of the Gentiles, and hath destroyed them even to the foundation.

[20] He hath made some of them to wither away, and hath destroyed them, and hath made the memory of them to cease from the earth.



Psalms 103: [33] I will sing to the Lord as long as I live: I will sing praise to my God while I have my being.

[34] Let my speech be acceptable to him: but I will take delight in the Lord.

[35] Let sinners be consumed out of the earth, and the unjust, so that they be no more: O my soul, bless thou the Lord.


Joel 2:[1] Blow ye the trumpet in Sion, sound an alarm in my holy mountain, let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: because the day of the Lord cometh, because it is nigh at hand,

[2] A day of darkness, and of gloominess, a day of clouds and whirlwinds: a numerous and strong people as the morning spread upon the mountains: the like to it hath not been from the beginning, nor shall be after it even to the years of generation and generation.

[3] Before the face thereof a devouring fire, and behind it a burning flame: the land is like a garden of pleasure before it, and behind it a desolate wilderness, neither is there any one that can escape it.



Luke 21:34
And take heed to yourselves, lest perhaps your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting and drunkenness, and the cares of this life, and that day come upon you suddenly.


Zacharias (Zachariah) 13:2
And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord of hosts, that I will destroy the names of idols out of the earth, and they shall be remembered no more: and I will take away the false prophets, and the unclean spirit out of the earth.



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Deuteronomy 18:20
But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death.”

Are you gonna show where he said that sunday is the sabbath?

And by HE I dont mean YOU but the Almighty One of Abraham Isaac and Jacob. Because thats what you said HE said. Which would be a lie unless you can demonstrate it

If your lord is, perhaps, SATAN!

I already have, now you show us from the Bible your evidence for the Saturday SATANIC sabbath day you choose to worship your father the devil?

Here it is again in case you or the other false prophets missed it.

I know you can't find it in there, so you just make stuff up, and expect the people to believe your lies and deceits.

All false prophets are soon going to go to their eternal torment, HELL.

No no no you showed an interpretation of why you say that the sabbath is sunday. But let me quote the thread title

"Sunday is that 7th day Sabbath, saith God Almighty. The Lord of Hosts"

Well where did God Almighty say this? Or are you the false prophet mentioned in Deuteronomy 18:20?

But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death.”

Or are you one of those false prophets mentioned in Jeremiah 23?

Yes," declares the LORD, "I am against the prophets who wag their own tongues and yet declare, 'The LORD declares

Btw using the gospel of mark is a ridiculous way to prove your point since that is not what was given to Israel. So again can you show me where God Almighty said that sunday was the sabbath day? Or are you a false prophet commanding things He never commanded? Or a false prophet that claims to speak for Him despite Him (the One who is Self Existing) never sending you to speak for Him?

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You better hope you are right, or else you are in for a huge shock, very soon, in a flash it will come upon you.

Mark my words, I cannot lie.

What I can tell you is that you are fast running out of time, expect the unexpected, and I can only post what the Lord tells me.

If I be a false prophet as you claim let the wrath of the Lord be multiplied against me.

But if you are false prophets, let the wrath of the Lord be upon your heads, X7.




Job 34:20
They shall suddenly die, and the people shall be troubled at midnight, and they shall pass, and take away the violent without hand.




Baruch 2:17
Open thy eyes, and behold: for the dead that are in hell, whose spirit is taken away from their bowels, shall not give glory and justice to the Lord:




Ezechiel (Ezeckiel) 33:11
Say to them: As I live, saith the Lord God, I desire not the death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way, and live. Turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways: and why will you die

To understand it you need to read it and be able to count up to 3.

Sabbat means Saturday in Olde English,it is that simple or Sabbatum in Latin.

Who changed the Day?

'No such law in the Bible "Nowhere" in the bible do we find that Jesus or the apostles ordered that the Sabbath be changed from Saturday to Sunday. We have the commandment of God given to Moses to keep holy the Sabbath day, that is, the Seventh day of the week, Saturday. Today, all Christians keep Sunday because it has been revealed to us by the [Roman] church outside the Bible." Catholic Virginian, Oct. 3, 1947

"You may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will not find a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday. The Scriptures enforce the religious observance of Saturday, a day which we never sanctified." James Cardinal Gibbons, The Faith of Our Fathers (1917 ed.), pp.72,73

"If protestants would follow the Bible, they should worship God on the Sabbath Day, that is Saturday. In keeping Sunday they are following a law of the Catholic Church." Albert Smith, chancellor of the Archdiocese of Baltimore, replying for the cardinal in a letter of Feb. 10, 1920.

"Have you not any other way of proving that the Church has power to institute festivals of precept?"
"Had she not such power, she could not have done that in which all modern religionists agree with her, she could not have substituted the observance of Sunday, the first day of the week, for the observance of Saturday, the Seventh day, a change for which there is no Scriptural authority" Stephen Keenan, A Doctrinal Catechism 3rd ed. p. 174

How prove you that the Church hath power to command feasts and holydays?
By the very act of changing the Sabbath into Sunday, which Protestants allow of; and therefore they fondly contradict themselves, by keeping Sunday strictly, and breaking most other feasts commanded by the same Church." Henry Tuberville, An Abridgment of the Christian Doctrine (1833 approbation), p.58 (Same statement in Manual of Christian Doctrine, ed. by Daniel Ferris [1916 ed.], p.67)

"The Catholic Church,... by virtue of her divine mission, changed the day from Saturday to Sunday.
" The Catholic Mirror, official organ of Cardinal Gibbons, Sept. 23, 1893.

"Is Saturday the 7th day according to the Bible and the 10 Commandments?"
"I answer yes".
"Is Sunday the first day of the week and did the Church change the 7th day, Saturday, for Sunday, the 1st day?"
"I answer yes".
"Did Christ change the day?"
"I answer no!" Faithfully yours, "J. Cardinal Gibbons" Gibbons' autograph letter.

Some theologians have held that God likewise directly determined the Sunday as the day of worship in the NEW LAW, that he himself has explicitly substituted Sunday for the Sabbath.

But this theory is entirely abandoned. It is now commonly held that God simply gave His church the power to set aside whatever day or days she would deem suitable as holy days. The church chose Sunday, the first day of the week, and in the course of time added other days as holy days."
John Laux A Course in Religion for Catholic High Schools and Academies 1936, vol.1 p.51

Which is the Sabbath day?
Saturday is the Sabbath day.
Why do we observe Sunday instead of Saturday?
We observe Sunday instead of Saturday because the Catholic Church transferred the solemity from Saturday to Sunday."
Peter Geiermann, The Convert's Catechism of Catholic Doctrine (1946 ed.), p.50. Geiermann received the "apostolic blessing" of Pope Pius X on his labors, January 25, 1910.

"The Catholic Church changed the observance of the Sabbath to Sunday by right of the divine, infallible authority given to her by her Founder, Jesus Christ. The Protestant, claiming the Bible to be the only guide of faith, has no warrant for observing Sunday.

In this matter the Seventh Day Adventist is the only consistent Protestant. The Catholic Universe Bulletin, Aug. 14, 1942, p.4

"The observance of Sunday by the Protestants is an homage they pay, in spite of themselves, to the authority of the [Catholic] church." Monsignor Louis Segur, Plain Talk About the Protestantism of Today (1868), p. 213' [link to amightywind.com]

No I am not right. Because I am not saying anything that wasnt said before me by the One that set these things in place. HE IS RIGHT. Im just following along with what He said. And again by He I mean the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob. The One who exists ONLY By Himself. The First and The Last. This One is the One that is correct. Not you and not me.

I have no reason to fear you. You change God's commands to fit your own needs. You say He said/says things that He never said. You add/take away from the commands that He gave to Israel. And then you go out and try to teach others to the same. Tisk tisk tisk

Ok then, have it your way, you keep Saturday and I will keep Sunday.

Thanks for your imput.

and good luck.

Thats the only answer you have to yourself commanding things God Almighty never commanded? And saying He has spoken when He hasnt? I obviously can read and count up to three if I can count to 7 on the calendar and see that the day mentioned is SATURDAY and not SUNDAY. Not to mention that the Sabbath wouldnt even be SATURDAY. But FRIDAY SUNSET TO SATURDAY SUNSET as explained by the first chapter of Genesis.

So again Imma ask this again. Going by the title in your thread

"Sunday is the 7th day Sabbath, Saith God Almighty. The Lord of Hosts"

Where did He say this? Or are you one of those false prophets mentioned in Jeremiah?

Yes," declares the LORD, "I am against the prophets who wag their own tongues and yet declare, 'The LORD declares

All you showed in this thread was your dogmatic interpretation of the sabbath being on sunday. But since sunday is the first day of the week according to our calendar you would be mistaken. Not to mention even if we with this interpretation it would start on saturday sunset and end on sunday sunset or start on sunday sunset and end on monday sunset. Either way though you havent shown what your thread title states. Thus FALSE PROPHET IS IN THE MIDST. But please ignore this post. Its just for those following. Please direct your attention to my last post

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Psalms 93: [1] The Lord is the God to whom revenge belongeth: the God of revenge hath acted freely. [2] Lift up thyself, thou that judgest the earth: render a reward to the proud.

[3] How long shall sinners, O Lord: how long shall sinners glory?

[4] Shall they utter, and speak iniquity: shall all speak who work injustice? [5] Thy people, O Lord, they have brought low: and they have afflicted thy inheritance.

[6] They have slain the widow and the stranger: and they have murdered the fatherless. [7] And they have said: The Lord shall not see: neither shall the God of Jacob understand. [8] Understand, ye senseless among the people: and, you fools, be wise at last.

[9] He that planted the ear, shall he not hear? or he that formed the eye, doth he not consider? [10] He that chastiseth nations, shall he not rebuke: he that teacheth man knowledge?


Proverbs
The man that with a stiff neck despiseth him that reproveth him, shall suddenly be destroyed: and health shall not follow him.


Ecclesiastes 9:12
Man knoweth not his own end: but as fishes are taken with the hook, and as birds are caught with the snare, so men are taken in the evil time, when it shall suddenly come upon them.


Isaias (Isaiah) 18: [3] All ye inhabitants of the world, who dwell on the earth, when the sign shall be lifted up on the mountains, you shall see, and you shall hear the sound of the trumpet.

[4] For thus saith the Lord to me: I will take my rest, and consider in my place, as the noon light is clear, and as a cloud of dew in the day of harvest. [5] For before the harvest it was all flourishing, and it shall bud without perfect ripeness, and the sprigs thereof shall be cut off with pruning hooks: and what is left shall be cut away and shaken out.

Leviticus 26:21
If you walk contrary to me, and will not hearken to me, I will bring seven times more plagues upon you for your sins:

Ezechiel (Ezeckiel) 8: [17] And he said to me: Surely thou hast seen, O son of man: is this a light thing to the house of Juda, that they should commit these abominations which they have committed here: because they have filled the land with iniquity, and have turned to provoke me to anger? and behold they put a branch to their nose.

[18] Therefore I also will deal with them in my wrath: my eye shall not spare them, neither will I shew mercy: and when they shall cry to my ears with a loud voice, I will not hear them.

Isaias (Isaiah) 29:[6] And it shall be at an instant suddenly. A visitation shall come from the Lord of hosts in thunder, and with earthquake, and with a great noise of whirlwind and tempest, and with the flame of devouring fire.

Jeremiah) 15:[1] And the Lord said to me: If Moses and Samuel shall stand before me, my soul is not towards this people: cast them out from my sight, and let them go forth.

[2] And if they shall say unto thee: Whither shall we go forth? thou shalt say to them: Thus saith the Lord: Such as are for death, to death: and such as are for the sword, to the sword: and such as are for famine, to famine: and such as are for captivity, to captivity.

[3] And I will visit them with four kinds, saith the Lord: The sword to kill, and the dogs to tear, and the fowls of the air, and the beasts of the earth, to devour and destroy.


Jeremias (Jeremiah) 23:12
Therefore their way shall be as a slippery way in the dark: for they shall be driven on, and fall therein: for I will bring evils upon them, the year of their visitation, saith the Lord.

Genesis 6:13
He said to Noe: The end of all flesh is come before me, the earth is filled with iniquity through them, and I will destroy them with the earth.


Genesis 6:7
He said: I will destroy man, whom I have created, from the face of the earth, from man even to beasts, from the creeping thing even to the fowls of the air, for it repenteth me that I have made them.



Genesis 7:21
And all flesh was destroyed that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beasts, and of all creeping things that creep upon the earth: and all men.

Leviticus 20:6
The soul that shall go aside after magicians, and soothsayers, and shall commit fornication with them, I will set my face against that soul, and destroy it out of the midst of its people.


Matthew 24: [34] Amen I say to you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done. [35] Heaven and earth shall pass, but my words shall not pass.


[36] But of that day and hour no one knoweth, not the angels of heaven, but the Father alone. [37] And as in the days of Noe, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. [38] For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, even till that day in which Noe entered into the ark, [39] And they knew not till the flood came, and took them all away; so also shall the coming of the Son of man be.


Luke 17:26
And as it came to pass in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.

Sophonias (Zephaniah) 1: [2] Gathering, I will gather together all things from off the face of the land, saith the Lord: [3] I will gather man, and beast, I will gather the birds of the air, and the fishes of the sea: and the ungodly shall meet with ruin: and I will destroy men from off the face of the land, saith the Lord.



Zacharias (Zachariah) 13:2
And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord of hosts, that I will destroy the names of idols out of the earth, and they shall be remembered no more: and I will take away the false prophets, and the unclean spirit out of the earth.



Isaias (Isaiah) 2:19
And they shall go into the holes of rocks, and into the caves of the earth from the face of the fear of the Lord, and from the glory of his majesty, when he shall rise up to strike the earth.



Josue (Joshua) 4:25
That all the people of the earth may learn the most mighty hand of the Lord, that you also may fear the Lord your God for ever.


Jeremias (Jeremiah) 25:33
And the slain of the Lord shall be at that day from one end of the earth even to the other end thereof: they shall not be lamented, and they shall not be gathered up, nor buried: they shall lie as dung upon the face of the earth.


The Sacrifice (original Catholic Song)

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Wisdom 14: [7] For blessed is the wood, by which justice cometh. [8] But the idol that is made by hands, is cursed, as well it, as he that made it: he because he made it; and it because being frail it is called a god.

[9] But to God the wicked and his wickedness are hateful alike. [10] For that which is made, together with him that made it, shall suffer torments.

[11] Therefore there shall be no respect had even to the idols of the Gentiles: because the creatures of God are turned to an abomination, and a temptation to the souls of men, and a snare to the feet of the unwise.

[12] For the beginning of fornication is the devising of idols: and the invention of them is the corruption of life. [13] For neither were they from the beginning, neither shall they be for ever. [14] For by the vanity of men they came into the world: and therefore they shall be found to come shortly to an end.

Josue (Joshua) 24:23
Now therefore, said he, put away strange gods from among you, and incline your hearts to the Lord the God of Israel.

Deuteronomy 13:4
Follow the Lord your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and hear his voice: him you shall serve, and to him you shall cleave.

Ezechiel (Ezeckiel) 20:20
And sanctify my sabbaths, that they may be a sign between me and you: and that you may know that I am the Lord your God.

Deuteronomy 14:[1] Be ye children of the Lord your God: you shall not cut yourselves, no, make any baldness for the dead; [2] Because thou art a holy people to the Lord thy God: and he chose thee to be his peculiar people of all nations that are upon the earth.



Leviticus 11:46
You shall be holy, because I am holy. This is the law of beasts and fowls, and of every living creature that moveth in the waters, and creepeth on the earth:


1 John 4: [8] He that loveth not, knoweth not God: for God is charity. [9] By this hath the charity of God appeared towards us, because God hath sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we may live by him. [10] In this is charity: not as though we had loved God, but because he hath first loved us, and sent his Son to be a propitiation for our sins.

[11] My dearest, if God hath so loved us; we also ought to love one another. [12] No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God abideth in us, and his charity is perfected in us.

[13] In this we know that we abide in him, and he in us: because he hath given us of his spirit. [14] And we have seen, and do testify, that the Father hath sent his Son to be the Saviour of the world.

[15] Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God abideth in him, and he in God.

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1 John 4:9
By this hath the charity of God appeared towards us, because God hath sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we may live by him.

John 17:3
Now this is eternal life: That they may know thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

John 15:10
If you keep my commandments, you shall abide in my love; as I also have kept my Father's commandments, and do abide in his love.

Colossians 3: [1] Therefore, if you be risen with Christ, seek the things that are above; where Christ is sitting at the right hand of God: [2] Mind the things that are above, not the things that are upon the earth.

[3] For you are dead; and your life is hid with Christ in God. [4] When Christ shall appear, who is your life, then you also shall appear with him in glory. [5] Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, lust, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is the service of idols.

[6] For which things the wrath of God cometh upon the children of unbelief, [7] In which you also walked some time, when you lived in them. [8] But now put you also all away: anger, indignation, malice, blasphemy, filthy speech out of your mouth.

[9] Lie not one to another: stripping yourselves of the old man with his deeds, [10] And putting on the new, him who is renewed unto knowledge, according to the image of him that created him.

[11] Where there is neither Gentile nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian nor Scythian, bond nor free. But Christ is all, and in all. [12] Put ye on therefore, as the elect of God, holy, and beloved, the bowels of mercy, benignity, humility, modesty, patience: [13] Bearing with one another, and forgiving one another, if any have a complaint against another: even as the Lord hath forgiven you, so do you also.

[14] But above all these things have charity, which is the bond of perfection: [15] And let the peace of Christ rejoice in your hearts, wherein also you are called in one body: and be ye thankful.

[16] Let the word of Christ dwell in you abundantly, in all wisdom: teaching and admonishing one another in psalms, hymns, and spiritual canticles, singing in grace in your hearts to God.

[17] All whatsoever you do in word or in work, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.

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Psalms 88: [21] I have found David my servant: with my holy oil I have anointed him. [22] For my hand shall help him: and my arm shall strengthen him. [23] The enemy shall have no advantage over him: nor the son of iniquity have power to hurt him.

[24] And I will cut down his enemies before his face; and them that hate him I will put to flight. [25] And my truth and my mercy shall be with him: and in my name shall his horn be exalted.

[26] And I will set his hand in the sea; and his right hand in the rivers. [27] He shall cry out to me: Thou art my father: my God, and the support of my salvation. [28] And I will make him my firstborn, high above the kings of the earth.

[29] I will keep my mercy for him for ever: and my covenant faithful to him. [30] And I will make his seed to endure for evermore: and his throne as the days of heaven.

[31] And if his children forsake my law, and walk not in my judgments: [32] If they profane my justices: and keep not my commandments: [33] I will visit their iniquities with a rod: and their sins with stripes.

[34] But my mercy I will not take away from him: nor will I suffer my truth to fail. [35] Neither will I profane my covenant: and the words that proceed from my mouth I will not make void.

[36] Once have I sworn by my holiness: I will not lie unto David: [37] His seed shall endure for ever. [38] And his throne as the sun before me: and as the moon perfect for ever, and a faithful witness in heaven.


2 Kings (2 Samuel) 22:7
In my distress I will call upon the Lord, and I will cry to my God: and he will hear my voice out of his temple, and my cry shall come to his ears.


Psalms 17:4
Praising I will call upon the Lord: and I shall be saved from my enemies.


Deuteronomy 28:10
And all the people of the earth shall see that the name of the Lord is invocated upon thee, and they shall fear thee.

Psalms 115:13
I will take the chalice of salvation; and I will call upon the name of the Lord.


Psalms 55:10
Then shall my enemies be turned back. In what day soever I shall call upon thee, behold I know thou art my God.

3 Kings (1 Kings) 8: [60] That all the people of the earth may know, that the Lord he is God, and there is no other besides him.


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Last Edited by Son of Man on 02/12/2013 09:25 AM

I will try to condense the post and help you all understand, what we are saying.

If I tell you that the Lord is telling me, you will not believe me, so I have provided proof
from the Bible which is the Holy Word of God. For those that believe.
It also proves that God Almighty has given it to me, because I would not have been able to put it together myself, as He gives me all my posts.

That is why I can post in His name, and I can say Thus saith the Lord, because it is true.

True because, 1. He told me, and 2. He has given me the Biblical proof, from the Gospels, for those that believe, that Jesus is the Son of God.


John 6:29
Jesus answered, and said to them: This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he hath sent.


1 Peter 4:17
For the time is, that judgment should begin at the house of God. And if first at us, what shall be the end of them that believe not the gospel of God?

John 3:18
He that believeth in him is not judged. But he that doth not believe, is already judged: because he believeth not in the name of the only begotten Son of God.


Unbelievers will not see:

1 John 2:11
But he that hateth his brother, is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth; because the darkness hath blinded his eyes.


2 Corinthians 4:4
In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of unbelievers, that the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should not shine unto them.











Since: Friday April 03, 33AD 14 Nisan 3793 @ 1500 hrs. Jesus died for our sins.

and we know that;

Matthew 12:[40] For as Jonas was in the whale's belly three days and three nights: so shall the Son of man be in the heart of the earth three days and three nights.

We can therefore count the 3 days and 3 nights, using the Holy Bible. Which is the Word of God, for those of us who believe.


LISTEN!: NOW FOR THE COUNT:

FIRST NIGHT AND FIRST DAY: 1

Saturday April 04 33AD (Sun-set/6pm to Sun-rise/6am) 15 Nisan 3793(**12 hours**) = 1st night. sabbath day
(Saturday 1st day of unleavened bread.) No work permitted.

Saturday April 04 33AD Sun-rise/6am to Sun-set/6pm 15 Nisan 3793(**12 hours**) = 1st day. sabbath day
(Saturday 1st day of unleavened bread.) No work permitted.


SECOND NIGHT AND SECOND DAY: 2

Sunday April 05 33AD Sun-set/6pm to Sun-rise/6am 16 Nisan 3793(**12 hours**) = 2nd night.
(7th day sabbath start.) No work permitted.

Sunday April 05 33AD Sun-rise/6am to Sun-set/6pm 16 Nisan 3793(**12 hours**) = 2nd day.
(7th day sabbath start.) No work permitted.


THIRD NIGHT AND THIRD DAY: 3

Monday April 06 33AD Sun-set/6pm to Sun-rise/6am 0600 hrs 17 Nisan 3793(**12 hours**) = 3rd night.
(First day of the week, day after the sabbath.) Work permitted.

Monday April 06 33AD Sun-rise/6am 0600 hrs to Sun-set/6pm 17 Nisan 3793(**12 hours**) = 3rd day. Monday 1st day of the week, Christ risen on the 3rd day.
(First day of the week, day after the sabbath.) Work permitted.



If the sabbath day was on Saturday as many claim, Jesus would not have risen on the third day, He would have risen on the second day.

But we know that He rose the day after the Sabbath, which had to be Monday.

Although many calendars are made with the 7th day being Saturday, you can also make your own calendar and choose Sunday as the 7th day.

But if you look at the week you will see that the Sabbath day is actually on Sunday, that is the day of the Lord. That is why all offices, schools and many businesses etc.. finish work and shut on Saturday midday. Sunday is the day to go to Church or it is commonly known as the weekend.
week end. So the week ends on Sunday.

Monday is the first day of the week, that is why all these offices, schools, etc.. open and start a fresh week, Monday has always been the first day of the week. But if you are blinded you will not see this. Even if extremely obvious.



Isaias (Isaiah) 44:18
They have not known, nor understood: for their eyes are covered that they may not see, and that they may not understand with their heart.


Psalms 91:7
The senseless man shall not know: nor will the fool understand these things.




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The McKameys - Look How Big My God Is

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1. Stop lol God Almighty never said that Sunday is the sabbath. You can twist and turn it to say that He did but then again you are proving yourself to be like the false prophets in Jeremiah that make up their own words and say that He said it. Plain and simple

2. Sure God Almighty spoke to you huh? How is this so and yet you believe in Jesus and Paul? You do know that they have fundamental oppositions in their doctrines when comparing it to the Torah?

3. So not its not what God says that determines when the sabbath is but when Jesus rose from the dead? Really? You can call me blind by quoting scripture after scripture that you dont understand but the FACT is Im telling you EXACTLY what God said to the prophets in the OT. While you are telling me interpretations of what they said. Who's in the right?

4. Can you answer the question? Where Did God Almighty say "SUNDAY IS THE 7th DAY SABBATH"? Because all Im seeing is your interpretation of why that is true. And you're still wrong because it would be sunset to sunset not a DAY as the gentiles think. They think that Sunday (the whole day) is the sabbath. But even if we came to the conclusion that this was true, the sabbath would start on saturday sunset and end on sunday sunset. Read Genesis 1.

Nope. We dont determine that Sabbath by what God Almighty says. That would be ridiculous. We determine it by what the gentiles who believe a god came down to them to die for their sins so he could actually forgive them of their sins. While at the same time this god prayed to himself who was in heaven while this god was on earth. This is what those people that close schools banks and businesses believe and we should take their word for it? Did not the God of Israel say that we should NOT put our trust in man but to put our trust in HIM?

OP, read the following link. Man changed what God said not to. You are following in a traditions of men, not in biblical mandated laws. There is a warning in Revelation speaking against this.

Revelation 22:18-19 "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:" "And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book."

[link to www.sabbathtruth.com]

I know the above reference in Revelation is out of context to the Sabbath discussion here, but I just wanted to illustrate that it is wrong to follow changes made by man. Mark 7:7-9

Exactly USAC,Thank you

What game do you think OP is Playing?

Clearly OP is in breach of the Law to which he has dedicated his Life to and has been presented with the proof of,yet he continues?

The Big C must have done some very deep and lasting damage as Child,as they do with so many others to this Day.

God hates Walls - The CC Luvs Walls to hide and try and separate their flock from Gods true ministry and in the hope that their rituals go unseen.

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Thread: True Sabbath is Based Off New Moon; It's not Always Saturday Or Sunday

True Sabbath is Based Off New Moon

New Moon occurs the day after conjunction.
On New Moon you are to blow the trumpet, it's a day of worship, there is to be no buying or selling and it is not a work day.

The Sabbath occurs after six work days.
The Sabbath is a day of worship or holy convocation, no servile work is to be done and no buying or selling and the horn is to be sounded.

Christians keep Sunday midnight to midnight as Sabbath but this is not the true Sabbath. For one, Scripturally the day may be from evening to evening and some believe dawn to dawn but I've not seen evidence for midnight to midnight. Secondly, any strict continually reoccuring 7 day Sabbath breaks Scripture as I will show.

Even Orthodox Jews who keep the Friday sunset to Saturday sunset do not keep it correctly.

I submit three proofs that any Sabbath occurring every 7 days breaks Scripture.

Proof #1

Ezekiel 46:1-3 (Holman Christian Standard Bible)

46 “This is what the Lord God says: The gate of the inner court that faces east must be closed during the six days of work, but it will be opened on the Sabbath day and opened on the day of the New Moon. 2 The prince should enter from the outside by way of the gate’s portico and stand at the doorpost of the gate while the priests sacrifice his burnt offerings and fellowship offerings. He will bow in worship at the threshold of the gate and then depart, but the gate must not be closed until evening. 3 The people of the land will also bow in worship before the Lord at the entrance of that gate on the Sabbaths and New Moons.

From Ezekial 46:1-3 it is clear that the Sabbath and the New Moon are not work days. So let's say an Orthodox Jew holds the Sabbath to be from Friday sunset to Saturday sunset and New Moon falls on the following Wednesday. Now the Orthodox Jew will likely want to keep Sabbath the next Friday evening to Saturday evening but the question is "Do we have six work days?". Well, according to Ez 46:1-3 the New Moon is not one of the six work days so the truth is we had 3 work days, then New Moon and then 2 work days. But we did not have six work days. So it is not proper to keep the Sabbath on the following Friday sunset to Saturday sunset.

One may argue that the six work days don't have to be consecutive but that opens up a can of worms. First that breaks the pattern is Genesis 1 where God worked six CONSECUTIVE days and then kept the Sabbath on the seventh day. Secondly, if we can pick any six workdays from the past then we can justify any day being a Sabbath and that was clearly not what was intended.

So when will the Sabbaths occur then? Well New Moon is a day of rest and worship and is the first day of the lunar month. Then we have six work days (2nd through 7th days of lunar month) and the 8th day of the lunar month will be the Sabbath or the day after six work days. Then after another 6 work days we will have the next Sabbath on the 15th. So we will have New Moon on the 1st day of the lunar month and the Sabbaths occur on the 8th, 15th, 22nd and 29th. The month is about 29.5 days so a month may have 29 or 30 days.

What if we have a Sabbath on the 29th, work day on the 30th and then New Moon? Does this present a problem? No, because we need six consecutive work days and then comes a Sabbath. The 30th was only one work day and then we had New Moon which cannot be counted as a work day so we have to restart the count.

Proof #2

In celebrating Passover the sacrificial lamb is chosen on Aviv 10 and it may have to purchased on that day and the lamb is sacrificed on Passover which is Aviv 14 which requires work. So Aviv 10 should not fall on a Sabbath since someone may need to buy a lamb nor should Aviv 14 fall on a Sabbath because there is quite a bit of preparation with slaughtering and cooking the lamb. In any continuous 7 day Sabbath cycle (whether it be Saturday, Sunday or any or other day) Aviv 10 and Aviv 14 will eventually fall on a Sabbath and there will be a contradiction and either you would break Sabbath or keep the Passover properly. God does not contradict Himself or give you laws that will force you to break one. But if the Lunar Sabbath is true as I propose to you that it is, then we would never have this contradiction because only the 1st, 8th, 15th, 22nd and 29th days would be non-work days so we would always be able to work on the 10th or 14th of a month. So Lunar Sabbaths solve the problem and any continuous 7 day Sabbath cycle breaks Torah.

Proof #3

Philo of Alexandria and/or Flavius Josephus state that the two great festivals (meaning Feast of Unleavened Bread on Aviv 15th and Feast of Tabernacles which starts on Tishri 15th both occur on Sabbaths and full moons. Both these men lived during the time of Yahshua/Jesus and are indicating what was normative Jewish practice. Yahshua never chides the Pharisees or Saducees for not keeping the festivals on the right days and there is not indication that Yahshua observed them on different days so this likely means they kept them correctly.

Now, New Moon is at conjunction when the gives off no light so it makes sense that 15 days later we have full moons on these festivals. But Philo and/or Josephus state that these are Sabbaths. As I've shown, if they are keeping Lunar Sabbaths then the 15th will always be a Sabbath. But a continuous 7 day Sabbath presents a problem because there is no way both Aviv 15th and Tishri 15th can both be Sabbaths if we have a every 7 days Sabbath. A lunar month has 29.5 days approximately so between Aviv 15 and Tishri 15 we have 6 months or (29.5*6)= 177 days. Now in order for both these days to be Sabbaths on a continuous 7 day Sabbath count 177 days would have to divide evenly into 7 but it does not since there is a remainder of two days. Hence, the every 7 days is a Sabbath notion is once again proven false.

There are some excellent articles that have been written on the Lunar Sabbath. I strongly suggest you read all of them.

Suggested Reading:

[link to www.judaismvschristianity.com]

[link to www.ministersnewcovenant.org]

[link to lunarsabbath.info]

God bless you!

I want to provide as many Scriptures to support what I said:

New Moon and Sabbaths are a day of worship and not a work day

Ezekiel 46:1-3 Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)

46 “This is what the Lord God says: The gate of the inner court that faces east must be closed during the six days of work, but it will be opened on the Sabbath day and opened on the day of the New Moon. 2 The prince should enter from the outside by way of the gate’s portico and stand at the doorpost of the gate while the priests sacrifice his burnt offerings and fellowship offerings. He will bow in worship at the threshold of the gate and then depart, but the gate must not be closed until evening. 3 The people of the land will also bow in worship before the Lord at the entrance of that gate on the Sabbaths and New Moons.


No Buying or Selling on New Moon or Sabbath

Amos 8:4-5 Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)
4 Hear this, you who trample on the needy
and do away with the poor of the land,
5 asking, “When will the New Moon be over
so we may sell grain,
and the Sabbath,
so we may market wheat?
We can reduce the measure
while increasing the price
and cheat with dishonest scales.

Sabbath is after six work days and no work do be done on Sabbath

Exodus 20:8-11 Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)
8 Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy: 9 You are to labor six days and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the Lord your God. You must not do any work—you, your son or daughter, your male or female slave, your livestock, or the foreigner who is within your gates. 11 For the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and everything in them in six days; then He rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and declared it holy.

Holy Convocation/Sacred Assembly on Sabbath

Leviticus 23:3 Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)
3 “Work may be done for six days, but on the seventh day there must be a Sabbath of complete rest, a sacred assembly. You are not to do any work; it is a Sabbath to the Lord wherever you live.

Blow the horn on New Moon

Psalm 81:3
Blow the horn on the day of our feasts during the new moon and during the full moon.

Blowing of Trumpets on New Moon, Sabbaths and Feast Days

Numbers 10:10 King James Version (KJV)
10 Also in the day of your gladness, and in your solemn days, and in the beginnings of your months, ye shall blow with the trumpets over your burnt offerings, and over the sacrifices of your peace offerings; that they may be to you for a memorial before your God: I am the Lord your God.

Some may ask if New Moon required a sacred assembly or holy convocation. The Ez 46 passage indicates New Moon was a day of gathering at the temple for worship. Also, the passage on the Shunamite woman who took her dead child to Elisha shows that it was her custom to see the prophet on New Moon and Sabbaths which indicates these were days of sacred assembly and worship.

There are some who say New Moon starts when you sight the first sliver of the new moon. The problem with this is that you will always be sighting the first sliver at least about 10 hours after conjunction. Also, if the day is cloudy, hazy, foggy or if the view has poor eyesight then the sliver of the new moon may not be seen till the next day or for several days. Now those who believe in sighted moon understand that the month has 29 or 30 days never more so if they don't see the sliver on the 29th they assume a 30 day month even if they don't see the sliver on the 30th. The problem is they may be a day off when it's cloudy and it's a 29 day month but the count it as a 30 day month. Feast of Unleavened Bread and Feast of Tabernacles occur on the 15th of the month on a full moon as so if the month is not correctly determined they may be celebrating on the 16th one day past full moon. Furthermore, Philo says new moon is from conjunction to conjunction.

Thread: True Sabbath is Based Off New Moon; It's not Always Saturday Or Sunday

Confusion over First Fruits Resolved with Lunar Sabbath

Leviticus 23:4-11 Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)
4 “These are the Lord’s appointed times, the sacred assemblies you are to proclaim at their appointed times. 5 The Passover to the Lord comes in the first month, at twilight on the fourteenth day of the month. 6 The Festival of Unleavened Bread to the Lord is on the fifteenth day of the same month. For seven days you must eat unleavened bread. 7 On the first day you are to hold a sacred assembly; you are not to do any daily work. 8 You are to present a fire offering to the Lord for seven days. On the seventh day there will be a sacred assembly; you must not do any daily work.”

9 The Lord spoke to Moses: 10 “Speak to the Israelites and tell them: When you enter the land I am giving you and reap its harvest, you are to bring the first sheaf of your harvest to the priest. 11 He will wave the sheaf before the Lord so that you may be accepted; the priest is to wave it on the day after the Sabbath.



I used to wonder when First Fruits was. Lev 23:11 says it is the day after the Sabbath. But I wondered was it the day after the weekly Sabbath which I believed at the time was Friday evening to Saturday evening or was he referring to Aviv 15th, the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread which is also a Sabbath. Recently, I asked God why he hadn't made it clear which day was First Fruits. The next day God answered my prayer by having someone tell me about the Lunar Sabbath doctrine. I'm thankful for God's speedy answer. If we understand that Aviv 15th is a weekly sabbath and the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread then it is obviously clear that Aviv 16 is the day for First Fruits. Josephus confirms this also. So now we know First Fruits is on Aviv 16th, not necessarily on Sunday or Monday. Thank you Father!

Below is a quote from Josephus that First Fruits was on Aviv 16th, the morrow after Aviv 15th, the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread which is a Sabbath.

Source:
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"
It is Abib 16 that Josephus writes about, his words hammering the counterfeit calendar and its
proponents. Please understand that Josephus is writing to a non-Israelite audience. In The Antiquities
of the Jews, Chapter 10, section 5, he has this to say about the Passover season:

(248) “In the month of Xanthicus, which is by us called Nisan, and is the beginning of the year, on the
fourteenth day of the lunar month, when the sun is in Aries (for in this month it was that we were
delivered from bondage under the Egyptians, and law ordained that we should every year slay that
sacrifice which I before told you we slew when we came out of Egypt, and which was called the
Passover; and so we do celebrate this Passover in companies, leaving nothing of what we sacrifice till
the day following. (249) The feast of unleavened bread succeeds that of the Passover, and falls on the
fifteenth day of the month and continued seven days, wherein they feed on unleavened bread… (250)
But on the second day of unleavened bread, which is the sixteenth day of the month, they first partake
of the fruits of the earth, for before that day, they do not touch them. …. (251) They take a handful of
ears, and dry them, then beat them small and purge the barley from the bran; they then bring one tenth
deal to the altar, to Elohim; and, casting one handful of it upon the fire they leaven the rest for use of
the priest; and after this it is that they may publicly or privately reap their harvest.”
"

Thread: True Sabbath is Based Off New Moon; It's not Always Saturday Or Sunday

Restoration of Pentecost/Shavout

Pentecost/Shavout is not 50 days after First Fruits.

Leviticus 23:15-16 Holman Christian Standard Bible (HCSB)
15 “You are to count seven complete weeks starting from the day after the Sabbath, the day you brought the sheaf of the presentation offering. 16 You are to count 50 days until the day after the seventh Sabbath and then present an offering of new grain to the Lord.

Notice that it says we are to count seven Sabbaths starting from First Fruits (day after Sabbath when sheaf was waved). Then from that point we are to count an additional 50 days and present a new grain offering.

It's important to understand that the festivals like Feast of Unleavened Bread, Pentecost and Feast of Tabernacles were harvest festivals. At First Fruits on Aviv 15th the people presented the first fruits of the harvest before partaking of the new grain. Now think again and see that a new grain offering is being done again for Pentecost. Is this the same grain as for First Fruits? No, it is a new harvest. But if Pentecost occurs only 50 days after First Fruits have we had time to plant and harvest again. No, 50 days isn't enough time. But if we have 7 Sabbaths or 49 days and then an additional 50 days for the crop to ripen that is enough time.
So right now many do not observe Pentecost properly but we are promised Elijah will restore all things so this is one of the things he will restore.

Matthew 17:11
“Elijah is coming and will restore everything,” He replied.

Malachi 4:5
Look, I am going to send you Elijah the prophet before the great and awesome Day of the Lord comes.

Further evidence that Pentecost/Shavuot is not 50 days after First Fruits but rather 50 days after 7 sabbaths from First Fruits is found in Exodus. The Israelites arrive at Mt. Sinai in the third month of the same day they left Egypt. They left Egypt on Aviv 15th and so they arrive at Mt. Sinai on the 15th of the 3rd month. So two months or approximately 60 days have passed since the second day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread which is First Fruits.

Now Jews traditionally believe that Moses came down from Mt. Sinai with the Law on Pentecost. But we see at least 58 days had passed from First Fruits before the Israelites encamped at Mt. Sinai. So if Moses did come down with the Law on Pentecost then Pentecost cannot occur 50 days after First Fruits. If we add the 40 days Moses fasted on Mt. Sinai before coming down with the Law we get 58+40 or 98 days which very close to the seven sabbaths plus 50 days which is 49+50=99 days. This further confirms that Pentecost is 50 days after 7 sabbaths after First Fruits.

The associated Scriptures are below.

Exodus 19:1-6 King James Version (KJV)
19 In the third month, when the children of Israel were gone forth out of the land of Egypt, the same day came they into the wilderness of Sinai.
2 For they were departed from Rephidim, and were come to the desert of Sinai, and had pitched in the wilderness; and there Israel camped before the mount.
3 And Moses went up unto God, and the Lord called unto him out of the mountain, saying, Thus shalt thou say to the house of Jacob, and tell the children of Israel;
4 Ye have seen what I did unto the Egyptians, and how I bare you on eagles' wings, and brought you unto myself.
5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.


Exodus 24:12-18 King James Version (KJV)
12 And the Lord said unto Moses, Come up to me into the mount, and be there: and I will give thee tables of stone, and a law, and commandments which I have written; that thou mayest teach them.
13 And Moses rose up, and his minister Joshua: and Moses went up into the mount of God.
14 And he said unto the elders, Tarry ye here for us, until we come again unto you: and, behold, Aaron and Hur are with you: if any man have any matters to do, let him come unto them.
15 And Moses went up into the mount, and a cloud covered the mount.
16 And the glory of the Lord abode upon mount Sinai, and the cloud covered it six days: and the seventh day he called unto Moses out of the midst of the cloud.
17 And the sight of the glory of the Lord was like devouring fire on the top of the mount in the eyes of the children of Israel.
18 And Moses went into the midst of the cloud, and gat him up into the mount: and Moses was in the mount forty days and forty nights.