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Do you really believe that Adam and Eve just appeared out of nowhere? That God handcrafted them and placed them on Earth? If so, why does this not happen now? Isn't there a common theory of life that you have to crawl before you can walk? Why do you Christians believe in something that you have never seen nor witnessed but deny all truth in what reality holds? You will tarnish anothers character for not believing when you in fact are the ones who believe in a bunch of words strewn across delicate, thin white pages. These people are what we would call "Gullible". Why do you not take the time to logically think about your life, the complexity involved in life itself and the meaning of it? Occam Razor says that in most situations the simplest answer is most likely the correct answer, when in fact that answer is not absurd. "Poof" were here. Do you see the irrelevance of that? How about rather than settling for something so easy you dig into your brain and think, WHY? HOW? WHEN? You cannot find those answers, SO, religion was made to simplify those answers for you. To control society. If you do bad you go to hell. You do good, you go to heaven. I have some news for you though. Not all people who don't believe, don't believe in a higher power. Do you think maybe you have misinterpreted the meaning of "GOD" I don't believe I just got here from no where. I believe there was a master plan and I believe we are not here by accident. But I will not lower my human intelligence and just say this is why and there is no other answer. You should do the same.

I envy those who believe, not because of your ignorance, but because the way you live your life. Once you have seen what they don't want you to see, you can never get that comfort back. I envy those who STILL believe.

Thank you for your time, tho that time is almost up.

Yours Truly,
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Its because some people are blind and cannot see.

Thats why you dont understand.
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It is called FAITH. THOUGH FAITH YOU ARE SAVED... NOT YOUR WORKS! I hope you can just pray to Jesus to save you!
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People become christians because of "emotional" issues and certainly not because of intellectual understanding. It's this emotional attachment that forbids them from educating themselves thru research.

For many years I called myself christian. I truly believed in God, but circumstances drove me to examine what I believed and why.

I ask myself how I could have rationalized so many bible verses that contradicted each other. I never could understand why god needed to sacrifice his own son for some 'original' sin that made no sense to me.

But it was the cruel judgment so easily passed on others that stopped me in my tracks. As I struggled with these issues my own christian family, ignorant of my struggle, condemned me to the lake of fire for all eternity.

Now I ask you.......where is the love in that?

Now an outcast from family and free of the dogma and condemnation I no longer call myself christian.

I truly believe that religion, no matter what brand, is the cause of every evil under the sun.
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Using the theory of occman razors.....

You think that a single cell or whatever exploded (big bang) and then the entire universe came from that and little organisms in goo evolved into fish and then fish into land animals ....etc.....etc....

You think that is more simple then God creating it all?


If that's what you believe then I respect your right to believe whatever you want

I just disagree with you
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Using the theory of occman razors.....

You think that a single cell or whatever exploded (big bang) and then the entire universe came from that and little organisms in goo evolved into fish and then fish into land animals ....etc.....etc....

You think that is more simple then God creating it all?


If that's what you believe then I respect your right to believe whatever you want

I just disagree with you
 Quoting: Simple_Man


no but it makes more sense. go blind man and walk into the darkness as all your beliefs will soon be tested. faith or none
You may fool me once. But twice is unlikely
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People become christians because of "emotional" issues and certainly not because of intellectual understanding. It's this emotional attachment that forbids them from educating themselves thru research.

For many years I called myself christian. I truly believed in God, but circumstances drove me to examine what I believed and why.

I ask myself how I could have rationalized so many bible verses that contradicted each other. I never could understand why god needed to sacrifice his own son for some 'original' sin that made no sense to me.

But it was the cruel judgment so easily passed on others that stopped me in my tracks. As I struggled with these issues my own christian family, ignorant of my struggle, condemned me to the lake of fire for all eternity.

Now I ask you.......where is the love in that?

Now an outcast from family and free of the dogma and condemnation I no longer call myself christian.

I truly believe that religion, no matter what brand, is the cause of every evil under the sun.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4545733


Name one scripture that is contradictory..

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you sir have just referenced to occam razor in an evolution debate,big fail mate

think about it,how fucking simple is billions and billions of years of random mutations?

how can that go hand in hand with occams razor?

btw if evolution is not an assumption,nothing is,i dare you to show me a bird with "evolving" wings,or any fowl or flying creature for that matter...


where are those fucking mutants???????
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Using the theory of occman razors.....

You think that a single cell or whatever exploded (big bang) and then the entire universe came from that and little organisms in goo evolved into fish and then fish into land animals ....etc.....etc....

You think that is more simple then God creating it all?


If that's what you believe then I respect your right to believe whatever you want

I just disagree with you
 Quoting: Simple_Man


no but it makes more sense. go blind man and walk into the darkness as all your beliefs will soon be tested. faith or none
 Quoting: FlashMob


GOD is not a Magic Act

He is the GOD of the Law of Physics
The GOD of the laws of nature and morality

He is the
God of everything created.
Susie

For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21
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Using the theory of occman razors.....

You think that a single cell or whatever exploded (big bang) and then the entire universe came from that and little organisms in goo evolved into fish and then fish into land animals ....etc.....etc....

You think that is more simple then God creating it all?


If that's what you believe then I respect your right to believe whatever you want

I just disagree with you
 Quoting: Simple_Man


no but it makes more sense. go blind man and walk into the darkness as all your beliefs will soon be tested. faith or none
 Quoting: FlashMob


occams razor,buhahahahhahahaahahahahahha

you should call it assumption theory instead of abiogenesis
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People become christians because of "emotional" issues and certainly not because of intellectual understanding. It's this emotional attachment that forbids them from educating themselves thru research.

For many years I called myself christian. I truly believed in God, but circumstances drove me to examine what I believed and why.

I ask myself how I could have rationalized so many bible verses that contradicted each other. I never could understand why god needed to sacrifice his own son for some 'original' sin that made no sense to me.

But it was the cruel judgment so easily passed on others that stopped me in my tracks. As I struggled with these issues my own christian family, ignorant of my struggle, condemned me to the lake of fire for all eternity.

Now I ask you.......where is the love in that?

Now an outcast from family and free of the dogma and condemnation I no longer call myself christian.

I truly believe that religion, no matter what brand, is the cause of every evil under the sun.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4545733


Name one scripture that is contradictory..

 Quoting: christian


Here's a little video for you.

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Using the theory of occman razors.....

You think that a single cell or whatever exploded (big bang) and then the entire universe came from that and little organisms in goo evolved into fish and then fish into land animals ....etc.....etc....

You think that is more simple then God creating it all?


If that's what you believe then I respect your right to believe whatever you want

I just disagree with you
 Quoting: Simple_Man


no but it makes more sense. go blind man and walk into the darkness as all your beliefs will soon be tested. faith or none
 Quoting: FlashMob


GOD is not a Magic Act

He is the GOD of the Law of Physics
The GOD of the laws of nature and morality

He is the
God of everything created.
 Quoting: christian


yes but using the OP's train of thought,only conclusion you can make is that we are creation

that is occams razor,us being created by a higher force is a theory with least assumptions made

and i will explain why:

abiogenesis-assumptions
time
conditions
chance

Creation-assumptions
all powerful Creator
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Christians contradict themselves so many times, I was a Jehovah's Witness, they contradict and debunk what Christians believe, and vice versa.
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People become christians because of "emotional" issues and certainly not because of intellectual understanding. It's this emotional attachment that forbids them from educating themselves thru research.

For many years I called myself christian. I truly believed in God, but circumstances drove me to examine what I believed and why.

I ask myself how I could have rationalized so many bible verses that contradicted each other. I never could understand why god needed to sacrifice his own son for some 'original' sin that made no sense to me.

But it was the cruel judgment so easily passed on others that stopped me in my tracks. As I struggled with these issues my own christian family, ignorant of my struggle, condemned me to the lake of fire for all eternity.

Now I ask you.......where is the love in that?

Now an outcast from family and free of the dogma and condemnation I no longer call myself christian.

I truly believe that religion, no matter what brand, is the cause of every evil under the sun.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4545733


Name one scripture that is contradictory..

 Quoting: christian


Here's a little video for you.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25353099



So you yourself do not know what scripture you think is contradictory?
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Christians contradict themselves so many times, I was a Jehovah's Witness, they contradict and debunk what Christians believe, and vice versa.
 Quoting: ShenYanh 28891691


So do you think Judaism contradicts itself?
Susie

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how come the transitional mutations are not in fossil record?

lmao
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Do you really believe that Adam and Eve just appeared out of nowhere? That God handcrafted them and placed them on Earth? If so, why does this not happen now? Isn't there a common theory of life that you have to crawl before you can walk? Why do you Christians believe in something that you have never seen nor witnessed but deny all truth in what reality holds? You will tarnish anothers character for not believing when you in fact are the ones who believe in a bunch of words strewn across delicate, thin white pages. These people are what we would call "Gullible". Why do you not take the time to logically think about your life, the complexity involved in life itself and the meaning of it? Occam Razor says that in most situations the simplest answer is most likely the correct answer, when in fact that answer is not absurd. "Poof" were here. Do you see the irrelevance of that? How about rather than settling for something so easy you dig into your brain and think, WHY? HOW? WHEN? You cannot find those answers, SO, religion was made to simplify those answers for you. To control society. If you do bad you go to hell. You do good, you go to heaven. I have some news for you though. Not all people who don't believe, don't believe in a higher power. Do you think maybe you have misinterpreted the meaning of "GOD" I don't believe I just got here from no where. I believe there was a master plan and I believe we are not here by accident. But I will not lower my human intelligence and just say this is why and there is no other answer. You should do the same.

I envy those who believe, not because of your ignorance, but because the way you live your life. Once you have seen what they don't want you to see, you can never get that comfort back. I envy those who STILL believe.

Thank you for your time, tho that time is almost up.

Yours Truly,
Flash
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well done
1s 2s 2p 3s 3p 4s 3d 4p 5s 4d 5p 6s 4f 5d 6p 7s 5f 6d 7p
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how come the transitional mutations are not in fossil record?

lmao
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mri
1s 2s 2p 3s 3p 4s 3d 4p 5s 4d 5p 6s 4f 5d 6p 7s 5f 6d 7p
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Christians contradict themselves so many times, I was a Jehovah's Witness, they contradict and debunk what Christians believe, and vice versa.
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So do you think Judaism contradicts itself?
 Quoting: christian


But God doesn't.
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how come the transitional mutations are not in fossil record?

lmao
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mri
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dont be fucking rude and insult my intellect,

i asked about fossil records...and you avoid the question

and for your information they have found multiple uses for appendix if you want to read on that
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People become christians because of "emotional" issues and certainly not because of intellectual understanding. It's this emotional attachment that forbids them from educating themselves thru research.

For many years I called myself christian. I truly believed in God, but circumstances drove me to examine what I believed and why.

I ask myself how I could have rationalized so many bible verses that contradicted each other. I never could understand why god needed to sacrifice his own son for some 'original' sin that made no sense to me.

But it was the cruel judgment so easily passed on others that stopped me in my tracks. As I struggled with these issues my own christian family, ignorant of my struggle, condemned me to the lake of fire for all eternity.

Now I ask you.......where is the love in that?

Now an outcast from family and free of the dogma and condemnation I no longer call myself christian.

I truly believe that religion, no matter what brand, is the cause of every evil under the sun.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4545733


Name one scripture that is contradictory..

 Quoting: christian


Here's a little video for you.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25353099



So you yourself do not know what scripture you think is contradictory?
 Quoting: christian


GAL 6:2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ.

GAL 6:5 For every man shall bear his own burden.

PRO 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

PRO 26:5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.

1 Cor 2:15 "The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment:" (NIV)

1 Cor 4:5 "Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait till the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men's hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God."

Matt 5:16 "In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven." (NIV)

Matt 6:3-4 "But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you." (NIV)

MAT 12:30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.
(default is against)

MAR 9:40 For he that is not against us is on our part.
(default is for)

LUK 9:50 And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.
(default is for)

"And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham." (GEN 22:1)

"Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God; for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man." (JAS 1:13)

Need I go on?

I can if you would like more.

EXO 24:9,10; AMO 9:1; GEN 26:2; and JOH 14:9
God CAN be seen:
"And I will take away my hand, and thou shalt see my backparts." (EXO 33:23)
"And the Lord spake to Moses face to face, as a man speaketh to his friend." (EXO 33:11)
"For I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved." (GEN 32:30)

God CANNOT be seen:
"No man hath seen God at any time." (JOH 1:18)
"And he said, Thou canst not see my face; for there shall no man see me and live." (EXO 33:20)
"Whom no man hath seen nor can see." (1TIM 6:16)
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Christians contradict themselves so many times, I was a Jehovah's Witness, they contradict and debunk what Christians believe, and vice versa.
 Quoting: ShenYanh 28891691


So do you think Judaism contradicts itself?
 Quoting: christian


But God doesn't.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29326207


HE SURE DOESN'T...

SATAN IS THE AUTHOR ON CONFUSEMENT
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Christians contradict themselves so many times, I was a Jehovah's Witness, they contradict and debunk what Christians believe, and vice versa.
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So do you think Judaism contradicts itself?
 Quoting: christian


All religions come from Sumeria, the Sumerian Gods are the only ones that are real the annunaki/nephilim. The Yahweh of the bible is gnostic Yaldabaoth, he is evil and you people will never get it. Christ is irrelevant, he might have been real but the attachment people have to him is so creepy. You never see people preaching Buddha, Vishnu, Kumara, etc.
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you don't have enough time for random chances and mutations to land where we are at.
Exalted is He from what they utter. Exalted is He from what they imagine. Exalted is He that exists without a place. Exalted is He that was there forever without a time or a beginning. Exalted is He that will be there forever without a time or an end. Exalted is He that will forever be praised. That is your God.
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you don't have enough time for random chances and mutations to land where we are at.
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Over 4 billion years and counting isn't enough time for us to be where we are?
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you don't have enough time for random chances and mutations to land where we are at.
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Over 4 billion years and counting isn't enough time for us to be where we are?
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nope, not even enough for a simple cell to assemble itself

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Exalted is He from what they utter. Exalted is He from what they imagine. Exalted is He that exists without a place. Exalted is He that was there forever without a time or a beginning. Exalted is He that will be there forever without a time or an end. Exalted is He that will forever be praised. That is your God.
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you don't have enough time for random chances and mutations to land where we are at.
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Over 4 billion years and counting isn't enough time for us to be where we are?
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nope
 Quoting: 714


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you don't have enough time for random chances and mutations to land where we are at.
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Over 4 billion years and counting isn't enough time for us to be where we are?
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4 billion years is only minutes in the grand scheme of universal evolution. The human race is only a second of evolution and very insignificant. Silly human egos created religion as a way to feel more significant.
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And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it." Amen.
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The bible says God created man, but it doesn't say how he did it. People just assume *poof* or whatever, but it could've been through a natural method. Remember that when genesis was written there was no scientific understanding so creation would've been explained in a way that people of that time could understand. At the same time, it's totally possible God simply created man from nothing because he is God and can form matter from nothing.
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Christians contradict themselves so many times, I was a Jehovah's Witness, they contradict and debunk what Christians believe, and vice versa.
 Quoting: ShenYanh 28891691


So do you think Judaism contradicts itself?
 Quoting: christian


All religions come from Sumeria, the Sumerian Gods are the only ones that are real the annunaki/nephilim. The Yahweh of the bible is gnostic Yaldabaoth, he is evil and you people will never get it. Christ is irrelevant, he might have been real but the attachment people have to him is so creepy. You never see people preaching Buddha, Vishnu, Kumara, etc.
 Quoting: ShenYang 28891691


HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT IS TRUE?
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