TO ALL CHRISTIANS

Its because some people are blind and cannot see.

Thats why you dont understand.

It is called FAITH. THOUGH FAITH YOU ARE SAVED... NOT YOUR WORKS! I hope you can just pray to Jesus to save you!

People become christians because of "emotional" issues and certainly not because of intellectual understanding. It's this emotional attachment that forbids them from educating themselves thru research.

For many years I called myself christian. I truly believed in God, but circumstances drove me to examine what I believed and why.

I ask myself how I could have rationalized so many bible verses that contradicted each other. I never could understand why god needed to sacrifice his own son for some 'original' sin that made no sense to me.

But it was the cruel judgment so easily passed on others that stopped me in my tracks. As I struggled with these issues my own christian family, ignorant of my struggle, condemned me to the lake of fire for all eternity.

Now I ask you.......where is the love in that?

Now an outcast from family and free of the dogma and condemnation I no longer call myself christian.

I truly believe that religion, no matter what brand, is the cause of every evil under the sun.

Using the theory of occman razors.....

You think that a single cell or whatever exploded (big bang) and then the entire universe came from that and little organisms in goo evolved into fish and then fish into land animals ....etc.....etc....

You think that is more simple then God creating it all?


If that's what you believe then I respect your right to believe whatever you want

I just disagree with you

no but it makes more sense. go blind man and walk into the darkness as all your beliefs will soon be tested. faith or none

you sir have just referenced to occam razor in an evolution debate,big fail mate

think about it,how fucking simple is billions and billions of years of random mutations?

how can that go hand in hand with occams razor?

btw if evolution is not an assumption,nothing is,i dare you to show me a bird with "evolving" wings,or any fowl or flying creature for that matter...


where are those fucking mutants???????

GOD is not a Magic Act

He is the GOD of the Law of Physics
The GOD of the laws of nature and morality

He is the
God of everything created.

occams razor,buhahahahhahahaahahahahahha

you should call it assumption theory instead of abiogenesis

Here's a little video for you.

yes but using the OP's train of thought,only conclusion you can make is that we are creation

that is occams razor,us being created by a higher force is a theory with least assumptions made

and i will explain why:

abiogenesis-assumptions
time
conditions
chance

Creation-assumptions
all powerful Creator

Christians contradict themselves so many times, I was a Jehovah's Witness, they contradict and debunk what Christians believe, and vice versa.

So you yourself do not know what scripture you think is contradictory?

So do you think Judaism contradicts itself?

how come the transitional mutations are not in fossil record?

well done

mri

But God doesn't.

dont be fucking rude and insult my intellect,

i asked about fossil records...and you avoid the question

and for your information they have found multiple uses for appendix if you want to read on that

GAL 6:2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ.

GAL 6:5 For every man shall bear his own burden.

PRO 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him.

PRO 26:5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.

1 Cor 2:15 "The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment:" (NIV)

1 Cor 4:5 "Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait till the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men's hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God."

Matt 5:16 "In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven." (NIV)

Matt 6:3-4 "But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you." (NIV)

MAT 12:30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.
(default is against)

MAR 9:40 For he that is not against us is on our part.
(default is for)

LUK 9:50 And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.
(default is for)

"And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham." (GEN 22:1)

"Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God; for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man." (JAS 1:13)

Need I go on?

I can if you would like more.

EXO 24:9,10; AMO 9:1; GEN 26:2; and JOH 14:9
God CAN be seen:
"And I will take away my hand, and thou shalt see my backparts." (EXO 33:23)
"And the Lord spake to Moses face to face, as a man speaketh to his friend." (EXO 33:11)
"For I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved." (GEN 32:30)

God CANNOT be seen:
"No man hath seen God at any time." (JOH 1:18)
"And he said, Thou canst not see my face; for there shall no man see me and live." (EXO 33:20)
"Whom no man hath seen nor can see." (1TIM 6:16)

HE SURE DOESN'T...

SATAN IS THE AUTHOR ON CONFUSEMENT

All religions come from Sumeria, the Sumerian Gods are the only ones that are real the annunaki/nephilim. The Yahweh of the bible is gnostic Yaldabaoth, he is evil and you people will never get it. Christ is irrelevant, he might have been real but the attachment people have to him is so creepy. You never see people preaching Buddha, Vishnu, Kumara, etc.

you don't have enough time for random chances and mutations to land where we are at.

Over 4 billion years and counting isn't enough time for us to be where we are?

nope, not even enough for a simple cell to assemble itself

Last Edited by 714 on 12/08/2012 10:20 PM

4 billion years is only minutes in the grand scheme of universal evolution. The human race is only a second of evolution and very insignificant. Silly human egos created religion as a way to feel more significant.

The bible says God created man, but it doesn't say how he did it. People just assume *poof* or whatever, but it could've been through a natural method. Remember that when genesis was written there was no scientific understanding so creation would've been explained in a way that people of that time could understand. At the same time, it's totally possible God simply created man from nothing because he is God and can form matter from nothing.

HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT IS TRUE?