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ARE BB GUNS ANY GOOD FOR DEFENSE???

 
DeadBeacon

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Just wondering, that's all. So just an ordinary can or is it some specialty device??? shoots 30 feet?
I should get a few cans and place them strategically by the doors and bedrooms.hf
 Quoting: natasha77


most wasp spray cans have 30 foot range so you get the nest.

at $4 per can, yeah, one in each room is easy

and it can be lethal. it will stop someone now sprayed in the face.
 Quoting: Ima Pseudonym



Just when I think I have it all...I am off to the store for wasp spray. Great Idea! Goofy Thum
 Quoting: waitn4end


Yes, lots of good ideas, but i like this one to start outfitting my house!!!
 Quoting: natasha77


It doesn't have to be wasp spray....it could be oven cleaner....it could be window cleaner, it's all about the delay that your attacker does not expect. You have to make "room".....time. Whose side is time on when it's unexpected?
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Use a water pistol filled with nasty stuff.
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I have a Stoeger X-20 .177 pellet rifle that has 1200 FPS and this break barrel pellet rifle will fucking kill a human with a well placed shot. Blows the brains right out of ground hogs, rabbits, and coons.
 Quoting: Doombringer


Similiar to this ^^^^^^

But it's new, and I don't blow the brains out of small animals, but I have a bunch of packages of really evil ammo made for hunting that I bought to tear up big targets.
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I have a Stoeger X-20 .177 pellet rifle that has 1200 FPS and this break barrel pellet rifle will fucking kill a human with a well placed shot. Blows the brains right out of ground hogs, rabbits, and coons.
 Quoting: Doombringer


Which makes a pellet gun completely the wrong choice. If you are willing to kill a person . Then you want a 12ga shotty with double O buck .
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Just asking out of curiosity.
 Quoting: natasha77


Yes..... ever hit a finger with a bb gun ?

Also a 1200 feet per second pellet gun is as lethal as a
pistol ....
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I'm not sure if it's allowed to discuss on the forum? I can't find rules about that specifically. Can I?
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I'm sure a private message would be ok. I'm not a heavy duty prepper looking to destroy and kill all in my path. Just a woman looking for something to slow down a criminal.
LOL
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You can generate up to 40 pounds of energy with a slingshot.

That's slightly under a .22 rifle.
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I'm not sure if it's allowed to discuss on the forum? I can't find rules about that specifically. Can I?
 Quoting: JennOfArc


I'm sure a private message would be ok. I'm not a heavy duty prepper looking to destroy and kill all in my path. Just a woman looking for something to slow down a criminal.
LOL
 Quoting: natasha77


bear spray then .
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You can use lead pellets/glass marbles/rocks with a slingshot.

Just sayin..
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Just asking out of curiosity.
 Quoting: natasha77


Yes..... ever hit a finger with a bb gun ?

Also a 1200 feet per second pellet gun is as lethal as a
pistol ....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22818197


Never used one before. So you say BB guns will slow you down?
Is that commonly used in Puerto Rico?
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Does Walmart sell Bear Spray?
How much?
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My drunk redneck friend across the bar says "only at point-blank range, and to the groin".
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My drunk redneck friend across the bar says "only at point-blank range, and to the groin".
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That's way too close.....
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Just asking out of curiosity.
 Quoting: natasha77


Yes..... ever hit a finger with a bb gun ?

Also a 1200 feet per second pellet gun is as lethal as a
pistol ....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22818197


Never used one before. So you say BB guns will slow you down?
Is that commonly used in Puerto Rico?
 Quoting: natasha77


Op seriously these people are going to get you killed. Unless you shoot someone in the eye it wont kill them. And anywhere else if they are clothed is only going to sting them and make them very very angry .

You either want to kill the intruder
In which case you want a 12 ga shot gun

Or something that will stop the attack .
In which case you want bear spray. Keep in mind if youre going the less than lethal route you need something that will be so devastating they wont be able to breathe well or see . Which bear spray will take care of both .

If you shoot someone in the chest or even face other than the eyes with a pellet gun they will scream and get over the pain in about 5 seconds maybe due to adrenaline and then viciously attack you to make sure they dont get shot again. And by then they will be so mad better hope they dont end you .

They aim is to stop the attack . Not help the intruder get so mad they cant help but kill you .
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Does Walmart sell Bear Spray?
How much?
 Quoting: natasha77


Ata girl!!!!! You said beer, right?

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Last Edited by DeadBeacon on 12/08/2012 09:42 PM
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I'm not sure if it's allowed to discuss on the forum? I can't find rules about that specifically. Can I?
 Quoting: JennOfArc


I'm sure a private message would be ok. I'm not a heavy duty prepper looking to destroy and kill all in my path. Just a woman looking for something to slow down a criminal.
LOL
 Quoting: natasha77


There are big differences in guns. "BB" guns typically aren't high powered. They're mainly for "plinking" which is knocking over cans etc.

Air guns/rifles are much higher powered and can be used for hunting. While most are made for killing relatively small game, they make air rifles made to kill big game, (Cape Buffalo sized game)..but that's not what you're looking for obviously. :) I personally have no interest in killing animals, but bought it for the hell of it with the plans of target shooting, then decided I didn't have time for it.


High powered, 1200fps (feet per second) guns shoot .177 and .22 ammo and are lethal. They're often adverised as "varmint hunting" guns. The ammo you showed in the youtube video is a "pellet" used in these types of guns. They make target practice pellets which are simple "domed" pellets like the ones you showed. They make hunting specific ammo with names like "wadcutter" and "hollow point" ( because it spreads when it hits the animal and, well, you get the idea), they make ammo with synthetic tips that are kind of like "armor piercing" ammo on a smaller scale.

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YES, to Wasp & Hornet spray. It's also recommended for trail & camp in case of large preditor attacks. Shoots a stream of poison up to 30-feet. Incapacitating to most humans when blasted into the upper body & face (especially at close range).

Another little known goodie is 5-foot length CPVC tubing. Not expensive. Hollow, light-weight. Leaves nasty welts & goose eggs. Use to shellac the incapacated preditor.

The other item for self defense is plastic wrap. It makes great "rope" for hog tieing incapacated preditor. Use either before or after shellacing.

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I'm not sure if it's allowed to discuss on the forum? I can't find rules about that specifically. Can I?
 Quoting: JennOfArc


I'm sure a private message would be ok. I'm not a heavy duty prepper looking to destroy and kill all in my path. Just a woman looking for something to slow down a criminal.
LOL
 Quoting: natasha77


There are big differences in guns. "BB" guns typically aren't high powered. They're mainly for "plinking" which is knocking over cans etc.

Air guns/rifles are much higher powered and can be used for hunting. While most are made for killing relatively small game, they make air rifles made to kill big game, (Cape Buffalo sized game)..but that's not what you're looking for obviously. :) I personally have no interest in killing animals, but bought it for the hell of it with the plans of target shooting, then decided I didn't have time for it.


High powered, 1200fps (feet per second) guns shoot .177 and .22 ammo and are lethal. They're often adverised as "varmint hunting" guns. The ammo you showed in the youtube video is a "pellet" used in these types of guns. They make target practice pellets which are simple "domed" pellets like the ones you showed. They make hunting specific ammo with names like "wadcutter" and "hollow point" ( because it spreads when it hits the animal and, well, you get the idea), they make ammo with synthetic tips that are kind of like "armor piercing" ammo on a smaller scale.

I can't send PM's or I'd shoot you one ( pun intended :) )
 Quoting: JennOfArc


Great lesson, thank you so much!!!!
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Does Walmart sell Bear Spray?
How much?
 Quoting: natasha77


No walmart dont . You'd have to google bear spray. It's serious shit.

Maybe cabellas or somewhere like that. But if you use that stuff . go out a window or door away from the attacker cause if you use bear spray in an enclosed area and they run by where you just sprayed < the attacker > and you breath it in or have your eyes open . Well you wont be as bad off as the guy that just got the stream in the face but you will feel it and it may slow your escape.

So example youre in a hallway and intruder is in front of you spray him in the face and retreat immediately away from him to a bedroom or another place with a window you can escape .

If youre on a second floor spray him and barricade yourself in a room and call the police . And if you got him in the face with bear spray the cops will get there before he has any chance of recovering. Again that stuff is made to incapacitate bears.
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Just get yourself a ruger 10/22. I used to have bb wars all the time so no theu aren't painfull enough for self defense unless you can aim perfectly in the eye.
 Quoting: Dapurps


I agree, Or get yourself one of these cheap pistol style crossbows that shoot the 6-8" steel tipped dart. I've shot those through a pumpkin and 2 plastic garbage cans. Totally silent and totally deadly if you want it to be.

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skinnersget some .22lr ffs no one wants to to take a life
but some guy beating your family and ends up suing you for breaking in your home and you wound him rolls eyes get a shotgun lady dead
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Yeah, if there's a squirrel apocalypse.
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Yeah, if there's a squirrel apocalypse.
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LOL
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Just asking out of curiosity.
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Please tell us your kidding!!!!!!!!!!
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If someone is coming to kill you then you need to kill them first. In comes the shot gun only if you can handle it. Or a shot gun with a bean bag (non lethal) will stop the intruder in his tracks no matter how big the man is. my cousin is a cop and he has seen huge grown men cry and beg while laying on the ground not to get shot with a bean bag again
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:skinners:get some .22lr ffs no one wants to to take a life
but some guy beating your family and ends up suing you for breaking in your home and you wound him rolls eyes get a shotgun lady dead
 Quoting: ar-15 nut


Finally someone speaks sensible. smh

You have to be DEADLY ACCURATE to kill someone instantly before they can get to you with a .22LR. And if you are inexperienced with a firearm and your adrenaline is going chances are youre going to close your eyes right before the trigger breaks and you will be lucky to hit the intruder at all.

And a pellet gun same thing you're adrenaline is going to be CRANKIN and youre going to be shaking like a leaf due to shock of the situation youre facing.

Where a 12ga at 3 yards your average range inside a home you just have to be pointing in a general area but still aiming .


I seriously think these people suggesting .177 pellet guns and 10/22 s dont want the OP to make it out alive.
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its kill or be killed

you refuse to kill

therefore you will be killed

being brutally raped first is just an added bonus
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If someone is coming to kill you then you need to kill them first. In comes the shot gun only if you can handle it. Or a shot gun with a bean bag (non lethal) will stop the intruder in his tracks no matter how big the man is. my cousin is a cop and he has seen huge grown men cry and beg while laying on the ground not to get shot with a bean bag again
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I saw a guy on one of those " inside jail shows " and this guy wouldnt come down from a basketball post in the rec area so the SORT team hit this guy like 3-4 times with a bean bag and he was sittin up there saying " is that all you got ? " and only until the 4th or 5th shot he said " ok ok , im coming down" and even then he wasnt incapacitated , he just didnt wanna get shot again .
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skinnersget some .22lr ffs no one wants to to take a life
but some guy beating your family and ends up suing you for breaking in your home and you wound him rolls eyes get a shotgun lady dead
 Quoting: ar-15 nut


Finally someone speaks sensible. smh

You have to be DEADLY ACCURATE to kill someone instantly before they can get to you with a .22LR. And if you are inexperienced with a firearm and your adrenaline is going chances are youre going to close your eyes right before the trigger breaks and you will be lucky to hit the intruder at all.

And a pellet gun same thing you're adrenaline is going to be CRANKIN and youre going to be shaking like a leaf due to shock of the situation youre facing.

Where a 12ga at 3 yards your average range inside a home you just have to be pointing in a general area but still aiming .


I seriously think these people suggesting .177 pellet guns and 10/22 s dont want the OP to make it out alive.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28647427


I get where you're coming from with the closing your eyes stuff but on a .22? Who the hell closes their eyes on a .22 aha its got barely any kick to it.
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