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ARE BB GUNS ANY GOOD FOR DEFENSE???

 
Dapurps

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12/08/2012 11:30 PM
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I seriously think these people suggesting .177 pellet guns and 10/22 s dont want the OP to make it out alive.
 Quoting: j994k


While I have a truckload of other guns the 10/22 is a great gun. For someone just getting into guns it is perfect. Easy to maintain, and cheap and fun to shoot.

A gun is a tool, you can drive a nail with a sledge hammer, but you don't always need to.

My argument for my 10/22 is the same for my 9mm or my 5.7. Let me shoot you with it once, then you shoot me once with your cannon and we will see who dies first.


I agree but a Ruger 10/22 would be much better then a crap bb gun. Personally i recommend a 10/22 or a Light .38 revolver or a 12 gauge short barrel shotgun.
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Hatred, intolerance, anger and scorn will hurt YOU far more than any gun can muster.
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12/08/2012 11:57 PM

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Natasha.... Kill them with your cooking!

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EVIL_BEAN_KID

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12/09/2012 08:53 AM

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A .22 short is 70-80 ft/lb.

Now take a look at quackenbushairguns.

I did not want to bring it up and make anyone look foolish, but airguns around $500 - $600 are much more powerful than many rifles.
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dont worry your only making yourself look foolish
 Quoting: EVIL_BEAN_KID


I realize it is difficult to admit when you are wrong, so I accept that you will not, despite it being so obvious that anyone can simply look this up.

Best of luck.
 Quoting: 535 1326993


retard we all know they make air rifles capanle of killing buffalo. but you suggesting that those rifles are in any way appropriate for home or self defense is rediculous and stoopid.

they also cost thousands of dollars and require thousands of dollars in scuba tanks and gear thats why they will never catch on in the USA where we can still own real guns.
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EVIL_BEAN_KID

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12/09/2012 08:58 AM

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Checked. Bear spray can only be shipped to NY, Michigan.

I guess wasp spray cans with some funky duct tape, say animal prints, pinks, etc, throughout the house is what I'm doing.
Bear spray also runs about 50 dollars/container.wtf
 Quoting: natasha77


so your poor as well as stupid and cowardly
 Quoting: EVIL_BEAN_KID


Why am I stupid?, because I don't know about "manly weapons"?
Ooooooo......that makes me stupid? You're an ass.
I know an ass and its you.

Pardon me for raising kids, working, wearing high heels to the office and make up, taking people on business luncheons,
Being a wife, a freaking cook...you know, all the STUPID shit some women do.

Buzz off.
 Quoting: natasha77


your stoopid and cowardly because you supposedly have a family that you love and yet are unwilling to do what is neccesary to protect them. instead you'd rather cling to liberal ideas
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EVIL_BEAN_KID

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12/09/2012 09:01 AM

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Newsflash, they make .45 cal air guns.
 Quoting: JennOfArc


newsflash, when bubba kicks in your door you dont have time to connect your rifle to a scuba tank, fill it to the appropraite pressure, load a single projectile, close the gun, take the safety off, and then shoot him.
 Quoting: EVIL_BEAN_KID


Um, they don't work that way to begin with. And I wasn't speaking to the OP at all.

And secondly my comment regarding 45/50 cal air guns was directed towards the person who said that no airgun could kill a person unless it was stuck in their eye....


I was speaking towards the differences to people who don't seem to know a BB gun, from an airgun, from big bore airgun...and the differences in takedown power. and what is available. I wasn't talking to the OP.


Also, FWIW, big bore airguns aren't just single shot. Nor are some of the higher powered pellet guns, .22 6 shot bolt action.
 Quoting: JennOfArc


that is how they work moran, you think a .50 caliber big bore air rifle has a pump handle and takes 10 pumps like a red ryder?5a
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12/09/2012 09:05 AM
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an excellent tool for self defense, but only if attacked by paper targets
EVIL_BEAN_KID

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12/09/2012 09:20 AM

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a simple carpenter's hammer or machete would be 1000x better than a BB gun

baseball bat
a sharpened pole
a fukking piece of chain

a BB gun or air gun has NO place in any home or self defense situation.

WASP spray? you ever notice that little legal disclaimer on products that states the product is to be used for its intended purpose only?

spray an attacker with wasp spray or oven cleaner whatever, and he WILL survive, and he WILL sue you, and you COULD lose everything and spend time in jail.
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natasha77 (OP)
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12/09/2012 10:12 AM

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Natasha.... Kill them with your cooking!

tomato



peace
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


I'll invite them in and take out the salty left overs.
Rape? I'll use some psychology and tell them I've needed some good loving for a long time. Bring it on.

Then, I'll ask them for 20 bucks cash cause I don't have a pot to pee in.
Then, I'll ask them to join me in reading the bible.
Then, I'll pretend to go into a psychosis of some kind and insist they not leave me alone and that I want to keep them with me.

You think this is better than the bb gun???

I could pull this off. Lol
SPEAK UP. SILENCE IS DEADLY!

I am currently experiencing life at several WTFs per hour.

flatearth
EVIL_BEAN_KID

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12/09/2012 10:20 AM

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im guessing OP weighs 250-300 lbs. she has 2-5 molloto children. she has a GED. she earns $9/hour.
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Judethz
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12/09/2012 10:25 AM

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I don't think i could ever own something that kills. I may use it and then spend the rest of my life in the pokey.
But thanks, TT
 Quoting: natasha77


9teen On the other hand you might luck out and get a couple of GLPers on the jury. LOL
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12/09/2012 10:27 AM
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Just asking out of curiosity.
 Quoting: natasha77


retard alert

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12/09/2012 10:34 AM

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Just asking out of curiosity.
 Quoting: natasha77


retard alert

siren2
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29403640


clappa

its truly amazing the level of mental retardation our schools are turning out.

guns are in EVERY TV show, EVERY movie, EVERY book. the sheeple see that a gun is needed to meet deadly force with deadly force

yet they still are scared of guns and want to meet deadly force with slightly hurtful force

morans like the OP think that stopping(killing) a violent home intruder will result in prison time, but that spraying poison on, burning, or otherwise maiming an intruder will get them a pat on the back by law enforcement.

un-fukking-believable
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natasha77 (OP)
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12/09/2012 12:26 PM

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im guessing OP weighs 250-300 lbs. she has 2-5 molloto children. she has a GED. she earns $9/hour.
 Quoting: EVIL_BEAN_KID


WRONG, DARLING.
Climb out of your basement much?

I realize now what a bb gun can and cannot do.
I'm just not very knowledgeable on this subject. I'm the femenine type. I can tell you all about hairstyles and lipsticks, that would match your skin color.

Need advice???
SPEAK UP. SILENCE IS DEADLY!

I am currently experiencing life at several WTFs per hour.

flatearth
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12/09/2012 01:32 PM
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Something no one brought up is a laser pointer! plenty of range, will blind an attacker for more than a moment, cheap easy to carry, leaves no toxic fumes. They have been used in Greece to standown riot police & give fits to airplane pilots from a mile away! I carry mine all time with me.
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12/09/2012 01:35 PM
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could be, if you use it as a baseball bat
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Something no one brought up is a laser pointer! plenty of range, will blind an attacker for more than a moment, cheap easy to carry, leaves no toxic fumes. They have been used in Greece to standown riot police & give fits to airplane pilots from a mile away! I carry mine all time with me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29370039


LOL, Are you serious?
Dapurps

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12/09/2012 01:45 PM
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Something no one brought up is a laser pointer! plenty of range, will blind an attacker for more than a moment, cheap easy to carry, leaves no toxic fumes. They have been used in Greece to standown riot police & give fits to airplane pilots from a mile away! I carry mine all time with me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29370039


1rof1
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dapurps
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12/09/2012 01:49 PM
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A BB gun can kill birds etc. A BB will penetrate the skin etc. ther than that it is an excellent target shooting practice gun and to teach young children marksmansship. Other than a .22 or better, a well thrown brick is extremely lethal if aimed at the head.
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12/09/2012 01:53 PM
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Use a crossbow with a bow-fishing tip on it.
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Something no one brought up is a laser pointer! plenty of range, will blind an attacker for more than a moment, cheap easy to carry, leaves no toxic fumes. They have been used in Greece to standown riot police & give fits to airplane pilots from a mile away! I carry mine all time with me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29370039


1rof1
 Quoting: Dapurps
Oh yes...someone is trying to kill you and you are worrying about toxic fumes? And also...a laser pointer? You better get both eyes.
You've got to be kidding?
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12/09/2012 02:00 PM
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A .22 short is 70-80 ft/lb.

Now take a look at quackenbushairguns.

I did not want to bring it up and make anyone look foolish, but airguns around $500 - $600 are much more powerful than many rifles.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1326993


dont worry your only making yourself look foolish
 Quoting: EVIL_BEAN_KID


I realize it is difficult to admit when you are wrong, so I accept that you will not, despite it being so obvious that anyone can simply look this up.

Best of luck.
 Quoting: 535 1326993


retard we all know they make air rifles capanle of killing buffalo. but you suggesting that those rifles are in any way appropriate for home or self defense is rediculous and stoopid.

they also cost thousands of dollars and require thousands of dollars in scuba tanks and gear thats why they will never catch on in the USA where we can still own real guns.
 Quoting: EVIL_BEAN_KID


The question was answered. They hypothetically can be used for self defense, but it would not be wise.

There is no reason to be combative when essentially everyone agrees that a firearm is the ideal solution for home defense. There is nor reason to be abrasive to the Original Poster for asking a question out of curiosity.
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Wasp and Hornet spray - the type the sprays 20 feet - is a real man stopper (may cause permanent blindness)
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If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
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Natasha, after reading some of your responses over the last few pages, I would advise you to just lay down and hope whatever they are going to do is done as quickly as possible.

You can buy all the guns you want, if you don't have the sand to point it at someone and pull the trigger, they will be useless anyway. A very expensive club.

You don't have the sand, girl. I'm sorry, but it's true.

You are extremely naive.
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Just asking out of curiosity.
 Quoting: natasha77


It hurts like hell on single air pump. You get quarter sized deep purple bruise out of it.
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Something no one brought up is a laser pointer! plenty of range, will blind an attacker for more than a moment, cheap easy to carry, leaves no toxic fumes. They have been used in Greece to standown riot police & give fits to airplane pilots from a mile away! I carry mine all time with me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29370039


1rof1
 Quoting: Dapurps
Oh yes...someone is trying to kill you and you are worrying about toxic fumes? And also...a laser pointer? You better get both eyes.
You've got to be kidding?
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Dapurps

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Something no one brought up is a laser pointer! plenty of range, will blind an attacker for more than a moment, cheap easy to carry, leaves no toxic fumes. They have been used in Greece to standown riot police & give fits to airplane pilots from a mile away! I carry mine all time with me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29370039


1rof1
 Quoting: Dapurps
Oh yes...someone is trying to kill you and you are worrying about toxic fumes? And also...a laser pointer? You better get both eyes.
You've got to be kidding?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29422538


[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29370039


Wow you're actually being serious another do
"What you perceive to be becomes your reality."

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dapurps
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If you know what you're doing, you can 'tune' a regular .22 air rifle to be powerful enough to punch a hole through a 16 gauge steel sheet plate at about twenty meters, but you need to use the zinc ammo. Lead just puts a dint in it, albeit a big one.

That means it could blow a hole through someones head.

They are also good for small game, and the spring never runs out of power, so if you have a slug mold and some fire (lots of lead on roofs to steal), you never run out of ammo either.


.22 spring air (tuned) = win :)
natasha77 (OP)
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12/09/2012 04:31 PM

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Natasha, after reading some of your responses over the last few pages, I would advise you to just lay down and hope whatever they are going to do is done as quickly as possible.

You can buy all the guns you want, if you don't have the sand to point it at someone and pull the trigger, they will be useless anyway. A very expensive club.

You don't have the sand, girl. I'm sorry, but it's true.

You are extremely naive.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29420070


Absolutely right. I seem to be naive, but it could also be I'm afraid of myself?
I'm a non violent person. Its not easy, I do know I need protection.
Its hard for me, I was brought up in security and love. Violence is not my style.
I need to toughen up.
SPEAK UP. SILENCE IS DEADLY!

I am currently experiencing life at several WTFs per hour.

flatearth
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im guessing OP weighs 250-300 lbs. she has 2-5 molloto children. she has a GED. she earns $9/hour.
 Quoting: EVIL_BEAN_KID


WRONG, DARLING.
Climb out of your basement much?

I realize now what a bb gun can and cannot do.
I'm just not very knowledgeable on this subject. I'm the femenine type. I can tell you all about hairstyles and lipsticks, that would match your skin color.

Need advice???
 Quoting: natasha77


there are real air guns that can do some damage to an attacker, but they cost more that a couple decent real firearms

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