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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2480235 United States 12/08/2012 10:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Paedophiles who trade child porn will not be sent to prison: New sentencing laws suggest community punishments I'm absolutely dreading the day pedos become a 'protected class' and anythng mean you say to them is considered a hate crime. YES.... WE HATE PEDOS as well we should. but alas, I degress, this is a repeat of a similar movement some 40 years ago that has suceeded so it will come. It will be socially acceptable someday. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 14392840 United States 12/08/2012 10:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Paedophiles who trade child porn will not be sent to prison: New sentencing laws suggest community punishments ... Quoting: Manu-Koelbren Well playboy was too overproduced too, the girls I watch are just regular chicks, no make up or anything. The only thing that turns me on sexually is seeing a woman enjoying herself, that's my thing man. I don't get off the sadistic stuff like most folks, I guess it must be because I don't buy into the whole fucked up aspect of materialistic society. I don't like harming anyone, those who enjoying mistreating women sexually probably enjoy mistreating in general. The worst is that some women actually crave for the mistreatment, probably due to early abuse and the psychological trauma it creates. Fuck evil people man, it's full of those fuckers. I wish that was the extent of the whole world. It sounds so innocent, and you prefered real girls. I agree that Playboy is all airbrushing and breast implants.. so much of it is fake We will enter into a woman hating society soon... or some kind of implosion all together...Its a fucked up mess for sure. it is what it is to degenerate the argument... just know where you stand and argue to the point... what happens will happen..... paedaphiles still need chemical castration, how can you trust a person with anything if they feel like children are fair game? again tho', that is entirely another thread altogether "declination of child/adult states' for the use in the workforce..... before the 17th century there was no word for 'teenager' Pedos who abuse children 12 and younger should be chemically castrated and sent to get psychiatric help, over that to 16 I'd say prison time, 16 and over there should be some form of way for guys up to a logical age maybe 25 or something that parents could give permission for a relationship, without permission or over that age maybe fines? I don't know just making up some ideas here, what you guys think? In many states of the USA, 16 is the legal age for marriage with parental permission, Man can be any age. As for the other questions for victimizing children under 12...I would like to stone them like in the old testament is what Id like to do. lol. But chemical castration is fine. |
samanthasunflower User ID: 29302406 United States 12/08/2012 10:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Paedophiles who trade child porn will not be sent to prison: New sentencing laws suggest community punishments I think I can channel my Indian ancestors and come up with some good community centered punishments. Then when we are done, for any that are still alive, I'll donate my burdizzo to the cause. |
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Citizenperth User ID: 28986234 Australia 12/08/2012 11:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Paedophiles who trade child porn will not be sent to prison: New sentencing laws suggest community punishments pedophiles deserves equal rights havent you heard?! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2480235 I'm absolutely dreading the day pedos become a 'protected class' and anythng mean you say to them is considered a hate crime. YES.... WE HATE PEDOS as well we should. but alas, I degress, this is a repeat of a similar movement some 40 years ago that has suceeded so it will come. It will be socially acceptable someday. they're socially responsible scout masters that take your children for holidays............ sad....... and we only generally and statistically hear years later..... exposure of the sad *unts should be our weapon.... Last Edited by CitizenPerth™ on 12/08/2012 11:04 PM It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 26978433 United States 12/08/2012 11:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Paedophiles who trade child porn will not be sent to prison: New sentencing laws suggest community punishments It's not just the UK...we have plenty pf pedos here in the US. [link to www.cantonrep.com] They are coaches in our high schools. |
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Manu-Koelbren User ID: 1312616 Spain 12/09/2012 12:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Paedophiles who trade child porn will not be sent to prison: New sentencing laws suggest community punishments That children should enjoy their infancy and wait to be mature enough to engage in sexual activity, not become the plaything of a depraved adult who wishes to exploit them. children who are sexually molested tend to grow up with lots of issues that hinder their personal growth. It's just not correct to sacrifice the innocence and future of children for the lust of adults, adults have other means to vent their sexual morbidity and should have the strength of will to use them instead of stalking children. Banned as usual. “It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.” |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 10783814 United States 12/09/2012 12:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Paedophiles who trade child porn will not be sent to prison: New sentencing laws suggest community punishments That children should enjoy their infancy and wait to be mature enough to engage in sexual activity, not become the plaything of a depraved adult who wishes to exploit them. children who are sexually molested tend to grow up with lots of issues that hinder their personal growth. It's just not correct to sacrifice the innocence and future of children for the lust of adults, adults have other means to vent their sexual morbidity and should have the strength of will to use them instead of stalking children. See? WTF? Why would anyone dignify this question with an actual conversational answer. THIS IS THE ONLY ANSWER: :fuckoff2: |
OK that works. User ID: 10783814 United States 12/09/2012 12:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Paedophiles who trade child porn will not be sent to prison: New sentencing laws suggest community punishments That children should enjoy their infancy and wait to be mature enough to engage in sexual activity, not become the plaything of a depraved adult who wishes to exploit them. children who are sexually molested tend to grow up with lots of issues that hinder their personal growth. It's just not correct to sacrifice the innocence and future of children for the lust of adults, adults have other means to vent their sexual morbidity and should have the strength of will to use them instead of stalking children. See? WTF? Why would anyone dignify this question with an actual conversational answer. THIS IS THE ONLY ANSWER: :fuckoff2: OK THAT APPARENTLY WASN'T STRONG ENOUGH LET'S TRY THIS |
Akhnaton User ID: 8109592 United States 12/09/2012 12:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Paedophiles who trade child porn will not be sent to prison: New sentencing laws suggest community punishments That children should enjoy their infancy and wait to be mature enough to engage in sexual activity, not become the plaything of a depraved adult who wishes to exploit them. children who are sexually molested tend to grow up with lots of issues that hinder their personal growth. It's just not correct to sacrifice the innocence and future of children for the lust of adults, adults have other means to vent their sexual morbidity and should have the strength of will to use them instead of stalking children. The problem with "childhood innocence". The principal defect of this concept is that it implies that sexuality is a "sin", and that children are "innocent" because they have not as yet indulged in this "sin". The singularly Christian notion of "childhood innocence" is a vestige of our anti-sexual heritage which reached a high point, in many aspects, in the Victorian era. Its origin can be traced to the 1700s. It is a highly irrational notion, and I need not attempt to refute it. For the burden of proof is not on the Author, that sexuality is a sin. I have yet to see an argument that sexuality is a sin, and hence have nothing to refute. I have only come across dogmatic assertions, mainly in the form of religion, of the sinfulness of sexuality and "childhood innocence" (which is implicit in the notion of the sinfulness of sexuality). |
Manu-Koelbren User ID: 1312616 Spain 12/09/2012 12:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Paedophiles who trade child porn will not be sent to prison: New sentencing laws suggest community punishments That children should enjoy their infancy and wait to be mature enough to engage in sexual activity, not become the plaything of a depraved adult who wishes to exploit them. children who are sexually molested tend to grow up with lots of issues that hinder their personal growth. It's just not correct to sacrifice the innocence and future of children for the lust of adults, adults have other means to vent their sexual morbidity and should have the strength of will to use them instead of stalking children. The problem with "childhood innocence". The principal defect of this concept is that it implies that sexuality is a "sin", and that children are "innocent" because they have not as yet indulged in this "sin". The singularly Christian notion of "childhood innocence" is a vestige of our anti-sexual heritage which reached a high point, in many aspects, in the Victorian era. Its origin can be traced to the 1700s. It is a highly irrational notion, and I need not attempt to refute it. For the burden of proof is not on the Author, that sexuality is a sin. I have yet to see an argument that sexuality is a sin, and hence have nothing to refute. I have only come across dogmatic assertions, mainly in the form of religion, of the sinfulness of sexuality and "childhood innocence" (which is implicit in the notion of the sinfulness of sexuality). You're wrong, look when I was a kid I had never been exposed to anything sexual, my parents didn't allow me to watch any sexual tv program or anything. So basically I knew I liked girls since early age but when I was with some of my childhood gf's I would just kiss them and hold hands, no sexual thought crossed my mind because I wasn't a sexual being yet, it didn't spring out of my mind naturally you see. You could argue that kids can be taught sex and then they will be sexual beings, but that's not the point, the point is that kids not exposed to any sexuality by adults will not naturally and out of their own volition attempt the sexual act by their own until they reach puberty and they begin feeling sexual naturally and their own bodies begin reacting to sexual stimuli. That doesn't happen until aprox 13 or 14 years old, or at least it used to not happen, nowadays some girls are beginning to menstruate much earlier possibily due to the fucked up food we eat. Nothing to do with religion. Banned as usual. “It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.” |
Debauchery User ID: 15455863 United States 12/09/2012 12:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Paedophiles who trade child porn will not be sent to prison: New sentencing laws suggest community punishments Says the fucking pedophile. You aren't going to convince anyone here that being a sexual deviant and violating children is good. Your kind aren't welcome here. You should just leave. And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it. I am an evil giraffe, and I shall eat more leaves from this tree than perhaps I should, so that other giraffes may die. |
Manu-Koelbren User ID: 1312616 Spain 12/09/2012 12:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Paedophiles who trade child porn will not be sent to prison: New sentencing laws suggest community punishments That children should enjoy their infancy and wait to be mature enough to engage in sexual activity, not become the plaything of a depraved adult who wishes to exploit them. children who are sexually molested tend to grow up with lots of issues that hinder their personal growth. It's just not correct to sacrifice the innocence and future of children for the lust of adults, adults have other means to vent their sexual morbidity and should have the strength of will to use them instead of stalking children. The problem with "childhood innocence". The principal defect of this concept is that it implies that sexuality is a "sin", and that children are "innocent" because they have not as yet indulged in this "sin". The singularly Christian notion of "childhood innocence" is a vestige of our anti-sexual heritage which reached a high point, in many aspects, in the Victorian era. Its origin can be traced to the 1700s. It is a highly irrational notion, and I need not attempt to refute it. For the burden of proof is not on the Author, that sexuality is a sin. I have yet to see an argument that sexuality is a sin, and hence have nothing to refute. I have only come across dogmatic assertions, mainly in the form of religion, of the sinfulness of sexuality and "childhood innocence" (which is implicit in the notion of the sinfulness of sexuality). You're wrong, look when I was a kid I had never been exposed to anything sexual, my parents didn't allow me to watch any sexual tv program or anything. So basically I knew I liked girls since early age but when I was with some of my childhood gf's I would just kiss them and hold hands, no sexual thought crossed my mind because I wasn't a sexual being yet, it didn't spring out of my mind naturally you see. You could argue that kids can be taught sex and then they will be sexual beings, but that's not the point, the point is that kids not exposed to any sexuality by adults will not naturally and out of their own volition attempt the sexual act by their own until they reach puberty and they begin feeling sexual naturally and their own bodies begin reacting to sexual stimuli. That doesn't happen until aprox 13 or 14 years old, or at least it used to not happen, nowadays some girls are beginning to menstruate much earlier possibily due to the fucked up food we eat. Nothing to do with religion. Basically if you could make an experiment and leave some children living alone in an island, without any adults around or any information, I would bet that no kids would attempt to actually have intercourse until they reach puberty, and it would be interesting to see at what age at that, maybe it would be even later than we think without any exposition to outside information. Banned as usual. “It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.” |
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Akhnaton User ID: 8109592 United States 12/09/2012 12:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Paedophiles who trade child porn will not be sent to prison: New sentencing laws suggest community punishments [link to www2.hu-berlin.de] [link to www2.hu-berlin.de] "children masturbated in public with no opprobrium." "During the traditional times, the Pukapukans, Mangarevans, and Marquesans permitted children open sex play (Ford and Beach 1953). The cultural practices of Marquesans and Pukapukans not only allowed open sex play among children but, as mentioned earlier, provided children clandestine opportunities to observe adult sexual behavior due to sleeping arrangements. According to Oliver (1974) on Tahiti, coital simulation became actual penetration as soon as young boys were physiologically able. The Tahitians found children’s imitation of copulation humorous. Other evidence suggests that young girls may have engaged in copulation before age 10" "In these societies, discussions about sex with children were also very open and frank as part of a pattern of sex positiveness. For example, among the Ra’ivavaens studied by Marshall (1961:241), children were aware of orgasm, the role of the penis (ure) and the clitoris (tira) in sexual arousal." "Trobrianders, and likely other Papua New Guinea societies, approve of imitative copulation or sex rehearsal play about age 10 or 11" If it was okay in these societies for children to engage in open sex play, imitate copulation, engage in actual copulation, and okay for them to watch adults engage in sexual activities, then why can't it be okay for us to do the same things today? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 25803272 United States 12/09/2012 12:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Paedophiles who trade child porn will not be sent to prison: New sentencing laws suggest community punishments Paedophiles who trade in child pornography will be spared jail under new sentencing rules for courts revealed yesterday. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27881962 The Sentencing Council suggested community punishments for those convicted of trading or possessing child pornography in its guidelines on dealing with all types of sex crimes. People caught selling or distributing internet child pornography may receive ‘high level community orders’, and the council also proposed community orders for people possessing images of non-penetrative sex between adults and children. Read more: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] Not sure why England has decided to reduce the severity of this. Is there that many people that fall into this that they had to reduce it? Or are those involved with the changes involved in it? Not seeing why the changes would be necessary. I would agree that those producing are the real criminals, but those consuming are feeding them. |
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Alufiend User ID: 29349120 United States 12/09/2012 01:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Paedophiles who trade child porn will not be sent to prison: New sentencing laws suggest community punishments my mother suffered from prepubecent syndrome and developed at age 5. so she had boobs from 5 on up, never grew past 4'11" but was a fully developed by 12. also had a cousin with same syndrome. boobs by 5 and she never grew past 5 feet. |
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Citizenperth User ID: 28986234 Australia 12/09/2012 01:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Paedophiles who trade child porn will not be sent to prison: New sentencing laws suggest community punishments That children should enjoy their infancy and wait to be mature enough to engage in sexual activity, not become the plaything of a depraved adult who wishes to exploit them. children who are sexually molested tend to grow up with lots of issues that hinder their personal growth. It's just not correct to sacrifice the innocence and future of children for the lust of adults, adults have other means to vent their sexual morbidity and should have the strength of will to use them instead of stalking children. ^^ this^^ It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
Accidental Stoner User ID: 27692959 Finland 12/09/2012 01:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Paedophiles who trade child porn will not be sent to prison: New sentencing laws suggest community punishments .../ Quoting: Akhnaton If it was okay in these societies for children to engage in open sex play, imitate copulation, engage in actual copulation, and okay for them to watch adults engage in sexual activities, then why can't it be okay for us to do the same things today? The text at the link(s) you offered says nothing of adults molesting minors, only of child's play among children. I do hope you are presenting your piece of faulty logic there as hypotetical fuel for debate only. Leave the kids alone!!! Don't tell me there can be any sort of healthy "mutual" consent between a 5 y o and a 50 y o. This shit serves the same political purpose as the relentless msm homo-drive, doesn't it..? GLP needs a Kill It With Fire! emote. |
Sungaze_At_Dawn User ID: 1458670 Canada 12/09/2012 01:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Paedophiles who trade child porn will not be sent to prison: New sentencing laws suggest community punishments The current law is that only those with child on child, get roughly 3 months???? Who would have ever thought that was possible. And that child on adult get zero time. UK? Cause it is NOT coming to Canada. That would mean bullhorns, bear spray, gas masks, and surrounding parliament!!!!! Back to my amazement at the things coming down and NO ONE DOES ANYTHING. Even phone calls in and letters. Millions of them would certainly catch their attention. And then escalate actions after that. With zero acceptance for any of this. In other words no compromise, and no waiting for the next election. It gets fixed or their out NOW. And millions decide this, not the tiny few. Last Edited by Sungaze_At_Dawn on 12/09/2012 01:59 AM The Devil tries to convince everyone he doesn't exist. The state tries to convince everyone they cannot resist. Do not go quietly into the good night. Rage Rage against the dying light! |
Manu-Koelbren User ID: 28657260 Spain 12/09/2012 02:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Paedophiles who trade child porn will not be sent to prison: New sentencing laws suggest community punishments .../ Quoting: Akhnaton If it was okay in these societies for children to engage in open sex play, imitate copulation, engage in actual copulation, and okay for them to watch adults engage in sexual activities, then why can't it be okay for us to do the same things today? The text at the link(s) you offered says nothing of adults molesting minors, only of child's play among children. I do hope you are presenting your piece of faulty logic there as hypotetical fuel for debate only. Leave the kids alone!!! Don't tell me there can be any sort of healthy "mutual" consent between a 5 y o and a 50 y o. This shit serves the same political purpose as the relentless msm homo-drive, doesn't it..? GLP needs a Kill It With Fire! emote.I Not only that but adults would teach children because they found it humorous. In my example I talked about kids on an island by themselves. Banned as usual. “It is far easier to be a weakling than to be a Real Man. Were the Earth less harsh or the circumstances of life less austere, man would destroy himself before the shrine of the languid goddess. Only Real Men can with safety destroy the tangled forests and wilderness of Earth and make from them gardens, but will those who inherit the gardens be Real Men? The law decrees that they must be, or the wilderness will reclaim its own.” |
Sungaze_At_Dawn User ID: 1458670 Canada 12/09/2012 02:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Paedophiles who trade child porn will not be sent to prison: New sentencing laws suggest community punishments Paedophiles who trade in child pornography will be spared jail under new sentencing rules for courts revealed yesterday. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27881962 The Sentencing Council suggested community punishments for those convicted of trading or possessing child pornography in its guidelines on dealing with all types of sex crimes. People caught selling or distributing internet child pornography may receive ‘high level community orders’, and the council also proposed community orders for people possessing images of non-penetrative sex between adults and children. Read more: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] Not sure why England has decided to reduce the severity of this. Is there that many people that fall into this that they had to reduce it? Or are those involved with the changes involved in it? Not seeing why the changes would be necessary. I would agree that those producing are the real criminals, but those consuming are feeding them. From what I read in that link this is a lessoning yes, but only buy a scant amount aleady. What is already done, is unbelievable!!!!! Has no one noticed the former law? Did no UK citizen realize? What are they doing? Chain your pit bulls! All bullies abuse power, anyone that is given too much becomes a bully. And all citizens need to stay on top of it, form citizens groups and grow muscles in how to deal with this and stop it. The Devil tries to convince everyone he doesn't exist. The state tries to convince everyone they cannot resist. Do not go quietly into the good night. Rage Rage against the dying light! |