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Who thinks Mary was "God's mother"?

 
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God is the father


" Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son,
and shall call his name Immanuel. "

Immanuel = God with us.



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Well which is it, is God the son or the Father?
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1 John 5:7 (Johannine Comma) - "These Three Are One"

"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."


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1 Jo 5:7, is in harmony with the rest of the Bible.
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1 John 5:7 (Johannine Comma) - "These Three Are One"

"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."


[link to av1611.com]


[link to www.jesus-is-savior.com]


1 Jo 5:7, is in harmony with the rest of the Bible.
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Well how come Jesus just DIDN't get that?
What ever was he thinking here?
"“Mary!” Upon turning around, she said to him, in Hebrew: “Rabboni!” (which means “Teacher!”) 17 Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me. For I have not yet ascended to the Father. But be on your way to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and YOUR Father and to my God and YOUR God.’” 18 Mary Magdalene came and brought the news to the disciples: “I have seen the Lord!” and that he said these things to her." Jo20:17
Being second in command of the universe he really should be up dated on this issue. Can you school him?
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" In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God,
and the Word was God.[/b}

The same was in the beginning with God.

All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing
made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light
of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness
comprehended it not. "


" And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us[b[]... "


from John 1



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" In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God,
and the Word was God.


The same was in the beginning with God.

All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing
made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light
of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness
comprehended it not. "


" And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us... "


from John 1



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" In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God,
and the Word was God.


The same was in the beginning with God.

All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing
made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light
of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness
comprehended it not. "


" And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us... "


from John 1



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" In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God,
and the Word was God.


The same was in the beginning with God.

All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing
made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light
of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness
comprehended it not. "


" And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us... "


from John 1

Yes, Jesus was the beginning of Jehovah's creation.
"13 He delivered us from the authority of the darkness and transferred us into the kingdom of the Son of his love, 14 by means of whom we have our release by ransom, the forgiveness of our sins. 15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; 16 because by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All [other] things have been created through him and for him. 17 Also, he is before all [other] things and by means of him all [other] things were made to exist, 18 and he is the head of the body, the congregation. He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that he might become the one who is first in all things; 19 because [God] saw good for all fullness to dwell in him, 20 and through him to reconcile again to himself all [other] things by making peace through the blood [he shed] on the torture stake, no matter whether they are the things upon the earth or the things in the heavens." Col1:13


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1 John 5:7 (Johannine Comma) - "These Three Are One"

"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."


[link to av1611.com]


[link to www.jesus-is-savior.com]


1 Jo 5:7, is in harmony with the rest of the Bible.
 Quoting: - 29002615


Well how come Jesus just DIDN't get that?
What ever was he thinking here?
"“Mary!” Upon turning around, she said to him, in Hebrew: “Rabboni!” (which means “Teacher!”) 17 Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me. For I have not yet ascended to the Father. But be on your way to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and YOUR Father and to my God and YOUR God.’” 18 Mary Magdalene came and brought the news to the disciples: “I have seen the Lord!” and that he said these things to her." Jo20:17



Being second in command of the universe he really should be up dated on this issue. Can you school him?
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Jesus was HUMAN capable of DEATH, yet still GOD capable to raise others from the dead, which only God can do. The few places where Jesus says God the Father is greater than he is, is due to him being HUMAN, and was not the case before he was born a man, or the case today after ascending to heaven.

As the passage shows there are three beings to God. There is only one God, and Jesus was God on earth.
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She birthed the humanity of Jesus; He existed before her and created her and all of creation because He is God the Son and was in heaven with God the Father and God the Holy Spirit.
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kitty This is truth.
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1 John 5:7 (Johannine Comma) - "These Three Are One"

"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."


[link to av1611.com]


[link to www.jesus-is-savior.com]


1 Jo 5:7, is in harmony with the rest of the Bible.
 Quoting: - 29002615


Well how come Jesus just DIDN't get that?
What ever was he thinking here?
"“Mary!” Upon turning around, she said to him, in Hebrew: “Rabboni!” (which means “Teacher!”) 17 Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me. For I have not yet ascended to the Father. But be on your way to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and YOUR Father and to my God and YOUR God.’” 18 Mary Magdalene came and brought the news to the disciples: “I have seen the Lord!” and that he said these things to her." Jo20:17



Being second in command of the universe he really should be up dated on this issue. Can you school him?
 Quoting: DGN



Jesus was HUMAN capable of DEATH, yet still GOD capable to raise others from the dead, which only God can do. The few places where Jesus says God the Father is greater than he is, is due to him being HUMAN, and was not the case before he was born a man, or the case today after ascending to heaven.

As the passage shows there are three beings to God. There is only one God, and Jesus was God on earth.
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Really? So who spoke from heaven at his baptism? was he pulling off a ventrilicism trick on everyone?
"Then Jesus came from Gal′i·lee to the Jordan to John, in order to be baptized by him. 14 But the latter tried to prevent him, saying: “I am the one needing to be baptized by you, and are you coming to me?” 15 In reply Jesus said to him: “Let it be, this time, for in that way it is suitable for us to carry out all that is righteous.” Then he quit preventing him. 16 After being baptized Jesus immediately came up from the water; and, look! the heavens were opened up, and he saw descending like a dove God’s spirit coming upon him. 17 Look! Also, there was a voice from the heavens that said: “This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved.” Mt3;13
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Jesus Christ is GOD !!!


I've given my testimony.



" Whosoever therefore shall confess Me before men, him
will I confess also before My Father which is in heaven.

But whosoever shall deny Me before men, him will I also
deny before My Father which is in heaven. "


from Matthew 10


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[Really? So who spoke from heaven at his baptism? was he pulling off a ventrilicism trick on everyone?
"Then Jesus came from Gal′i·lee to the Jordan to John, in order to be baptized by him. 14 But the latter tried to prevent him, saying: “I am the one needing to be baptized by you, and are you coming to me?” 15 In reply Jesus said to him: “Let it be, this time, for in that way it is suitable for us to carry out all that is righteous.” Then he quit preventing him. 16 After being baptized Jesus immediately came up from the water; and, look! the heavens were opened up, and he saw descending like a dove God’s spirit coming upon him. 17 Look! Also, there was a voice from the heavens that said: “This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved.” Mt3;13
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God the Father spoke from heaven as God the Son(Jesus - the son of God in his humanity) came up out of the water.
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No one has ever claimed Mary was the mother of God. She was the mother of Jesus, the SON of God and part of the Trinity. Big difference. MAry was a vessel for the birth of the SON of God.

" So the angel said to her: “Have no fear, Mary, for you have found favor with God; 31 and, look! you will conceive in your womb and give birth to a son, and you are to call his name Jesus. 32 This one will be great and will be called Son of the Most High; and Jehovah God will give him the throne of David his father, 33 and he will rule as king over the house of Jacob forever, and there will be no end of his kingdom.”
34 But Mary said to the angel: “How is this to be, since I am having no intercourse with a man?” 35 In answer the angel said to her: “Holy spirit will come upon you, and power of the Most High will overshadow you. For that reason also what is born will be called holy, God’s Son." Lk1:26
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rule on the throne of david the house of jacob.


hmm, sucks to be me, it would seem I dont get any advocate by that verse.
Anyone else notice that little bit of legalism?
nice to know david was a foreskin collector, which seems that foreskin scalper is an excellent reason to be king of those that cant wait to get them disposed of.
Thanks for posting THE verse which statss that gentiles are on their own.
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Jesus Christ is GOD !!!


I've given my testimony.



" Whosoever therefore shall confess Me before men, him
will I confess also before My Father which is in heaven.

But whosoever shall deny Me before men, him will I also
deny before My Father which is in heaven. "


from Matthew 10


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Jesus is Jehovah's 'only begotten son', but who is Jehovah?
"Again the Devil took him along to an unusually high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory, 9 and he said to him: “All these things I will give you if you fall down and do an act of worship to me.” 10 Then Jesus said to him: “Go away, Satan! For it is written, ‘It is Jehovah your God you must worship, and it is to him alone you must render sacred service.’” 11 Then the Devil left him, and, look! angels came and began to minister to him." Mt4:8
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1 John 5:7 (Johannine Comma) - "These Three Are One"

"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."


[link to av1611.com]


[link to www.jesus-is-savior.com]


1 Jo 5:7, is in harmony with the rest of the Bible.
 Quoting: - 29002615


Well how come Jesus just DIDN't get that?
What ever was he thinking here?
"“Mary!” Upon turning around, she said to him, in Hebrew: “Rabboni!” (which means “Teacher!”) 17 Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me. For I have not yet ascended to the Father. But be on your way to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and YOUR Father and to my God and YOUR God.’” 18 Mary Magdalene came and brought the news to the disciples: “I have seen the Lord!” and that he said these things to her." Jo20:17
Being second in command of the universe he really should be up dated on this issue. Can you school him?
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Thread: Sunday is the 7th day Sabbath, Saith God Almighty. The Lord of hosts.


Osee (Hosea) 4:12
My people have consulted their stocks, and their staff hath declared unto them: for the spirit of fornication hath deceived them, and they have committed fornication against their God.



Matthew 13:13
Therefore do I speak to them in parables: because seeing they see not, and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.


2 Peter 2:1
But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there shall be among you lying teachers, who shall bring in sects of perdition, and deny the Lord who bought them: bringing upon themselves swift destruction.



Matthew 7:6
Give not that which is holy to dogs; neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest perhaps they trample them under their feet, and turning upon you, they tear you.


Matthew 28:1
And in the end of the sabbath, when it began to dawn towards the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalen and the other Mary, to see the sepulchre.


Mark 16:1
And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalen, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, bought sweet spices, that coming, they might anoint Jesus.


John 20:1
And on the first day of the week, Mary Magdalen cometh early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre; and she saw the stone taken away from the sepulchre.


Mark 16:9
But he rising early the first day of the week, appeared first to Mary Magdalen, out of whom he had cast seven devils.






John 14: [6] Jesus saith to him: I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No man cometh to the Father, but by me. [7] If you had known me, you would without doubt have known my Father also: and from henceforth you shall know him, and you have seen him.

[8] Philip saith to him: Lord, shew us the Father, and it is enough for us. [9] Jesus saith to him: Have I been so long a time with you; and have you not known me? Philip, he that seeth me seeth the Father also. How sayest thou, shew us the Father? [10] Do you not believe, that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? The words that I speak to you, I speak not of myself. But the Father who abideth in me, he doth the works.

[11] Believe you not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me?



John 17:[21] That they all may be one, as thou, Father, in me, and I in thee; that they also may be one in us; that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. [22] And the glory which thou hast given me, I have given to them; that they may be one, as we also are one:



Apocalypse 22: [9] And he said to me: See thou do it not: for I am thy fellow servant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them that keep the words of the prophecy of this book. Adore God. [10] And he saith to me: Seal not the words of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.

[11] He that hurteth, let him hurt still: and he that is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is just, let him be justified still: and he that is holy, let him be sanctified still. [12] Behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to render to every man according to his works.

[13] I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end. [14] Blessed are they that wash their robes in the blood of the Lamb: that they may have a right to the tree of life, and may enter in by the gates into the city. [15] Without are dogs, and sorcerers, and unchaste, and murderers, and servers of idols, and every one that loveth and maketh a lie.


Now we know that our Lord Jesus Christ established His Church while He was on earth with His apostles.


Matthew 16:18
And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.



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We also know that our Lord was crucified almost 2000 years ago.
33AD
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Could you please show me on your Bible when Jesus returned in the late 1870s to set up the new jehovas witness abomination?

Jehovah's Witnesses

The group emerged from the Bible Student movement—founded in the late 1870s by Charles Taze Russell with the formation of Zion's Watch Tower Tract Society—with significant organizational and doctrinal changes under the leadership of Joseph Franklin Rutherford.



Also.

[18] For I testify to every one that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book: If any man shall add to these things, God shall add unto him the plagues written in this book. [19] And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from these things that are written in this book. [20] He that giveth testimony of these things, saith, Surely I come quickly: Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.


Matthew 16:18
And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.



Leviticus 19:3
Let every one fear his father, and his mother. Keep my sabbaths. I am the Lord your God.



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1 Chronicles 16:22 Touch not my anointed: and do no evil to my prophets.
Colossians 2:[21] Touch not, taste not, handle not:

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Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus

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3 Kings (1 Kings) 18: [15] And Elias said: As the Lord of hosts liveth, before whose face I stand, this day.

Amos 3:7 For the Lord God doth nothing without revealing his secret to his servants the prophets.

BEHOLD! THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN IS AT HAND!

Matthew 10: [34] Do not think that I came to send peace upon earth: I came not to send peace, but the sword.


Jeremias (Jeremiah) 25: [27] And thou shalt say to them: Thus saith the Lord of hosts the God of Israel: Drink ye, and be drunken, and vomit: and fall, and rise no more, because of the sword, which I shall send among you.
[28] And if they refuse to take the cup at thy hand to drink, thou shalt say to them: Thus saith the Lord of hosts: Drinking you shall drink:

Jeremias (Jeremiah) 22:[29] O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the Lord.

Ezechiel (Ezeckiel) 39: [8] Behold it cometh, and it is done, saith the Lord God: this is the day whereof I have spoken.

2 Corinthians 11:31
The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who is blessed for ever, knoweth that I lie not.

Matthew 26:[46] Rise, let us go: behold he is at hand that will betray me.[47] As he yet spoke, behold Judas, one of
the twelve, came.

Aggeus (Haggai) 2: [7] For thus saith the Lord of hosts: Yet one little while, and I will move the heaven and the earth, and the sea, and the dry land.

(Isaiah) 24:[3] With desolation shall the earth be laid waste, and it shall be utterly spoiled: for the Lord hath spoken this word.

Zacharias (Zachariah) 13:7
Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that cleaveth to me, saith the Lord of hosts: strike the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered:

Ezechiel (Ezeckiel) 18:32
For I desire not the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord God, return ye and live.
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well he has her DNA cuz half the point of the Bible is tracing Jesus lineage through Mary.

But as far as praying to her and all that...nope.
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A most interesting thought. If Jesus had half Mary's dna wouldn't the glitch of sin have infected him?
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I believe it did, to a degree.

Now, before anyone stones me, let me explain.

The book of Hebrews (4:15) explains that Jesus was tempted in every way and he understands our troubles and temptations. In order for someone to be tempted, that person has to know the feeling of wanting to do what is being offered to them. Most Christians (including me at one time) cannot accept that Jesus actually wanted things like power or sex, because if He did, he would have sinned. Of course, this flys in the face of believing that He was the sinless Lamb of God.

However, I have settled on my belief that Jesus was fully God and sinless in the Spirit, while being fully human in flesh. This is really the only way that we could have a bridge back to our Heavenly Father to break the sin barrier, to have a High Priest that can forgive us of our sins, all the while truly understanding what we go through in our daily lives battling the temptations that we do.
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why THE FUCK are you posting bible quotes on a conspiracy forum? are you lost or something?
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No one has ever claimed Mary was the mother of God. She was the mother of Jesus, the SON of God and part of the Trinity. Big difference. MAry was a vessel for the birth of the SON of God.

" So the angel said to her: “Have no fear, Mary, for you have found favor with God; 31 and, look! you will conceive in your womb and give birth to a son, and you are to call his name Jesus. 32 This one will be great and will be called Son of the Most High; and Jehovah God will give him the throne of David his father, 33 and he will rule as king over the house of Jacob forever, and there will be no end of his kingdom.”
34 But Mary said to the angel: “How is this to be, since I am having no intercourse with a man?” 35 In answer the angel said to her: “Holy spirit will come upon you, and power of the Most High will overshadow you. For that reason also what is born will be called holy, God’s Son." Lk1:26
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Lots of people have actually. |You just need to meet non-Protestant Christians
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Jesus Christ is GOD !!!


I've given my testimony.



" Whosoever therefore shall confess Me before men, him
will I confess also before My Father which is in heaven.

But whosoever shall deny Me before men, him will I also
deny before My Father which is in heaven. "


from Matthew 10


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"Because the Law was given through Moses, the undeserved kindness and the truth came to be through Jesus Christ. 18 No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is in the bosom [position] with the Father is the one that has explained him." Jo1:17

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