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WE ARE NOT WAR

 
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Nothing to do with new age rhetoric

Op speaks the truth

We are conditioned into believing we are brutal and greedy. However, this is not the true state of humanity.

We are literally out of our element. This current paradigm is not our true nature.

This is why we see so many soldiers of war killing themselves and so many death bed confessions of regret of time lost....not realizing what truly matters.

Despite what we are fed on the daily programing news, filled with stories of shock and awe, I find that the vast majority of the people I interact with in real life (friends as well as strangers) are kind hearted people who are just trying to get by. The overwhelming majority of everyday people are not trying to maliciously screw over everyone in their sites so that they may horde billions of dollars.

Nearly every person, with small exceptions to the rule, are simply trying to avoid pain first, and seek peace and well being (happiness) second.

The unfortunate thing is that the malicious screw balls who are psychopathic nut jobs are running EVERYTHING.

Their thirst for acquiring for the sake of possession alone, rather than need, coupled with their lack for normal human emotions and compassion, has enabled them to rape and pillage the entire globe for centuries.

As the world has grown smaller (more global) over the last couple of hundred years & the race for getting on top has lead to the sharks turning on each other. Its been a freaking blood bath..... just look at the last decade of take overs and mergers. The game has grown more intense and more severe than ever.

Meanwhile in order to keep pace the power and material hungry class has forced more and more propaganda upon mankind so that they can condition a normal human being to conduct acts that he normally wouldnt consider.

Morality and a sense of decency has been purposely drained from our culture. The has been a gaming strategy in their attempts to keep out pacing the other sharks.

Meanwhile, the culture has become so twisted due to this artificial manipulation that humanity has become mentally ill. Humanity as a collective has become lost and paranoid. The collective is suffering from a sickness that was purposefully introduced without regard to the consequences.

You have to be mad here...... We are ALL mad here!

This place is an insane asylum housed on a giant rock hurling through space.

But this is not what our true nature really is...... I KNOW for certain, it is not mine.
"Beware lest you lose the substance by grasping at the shadow".  ~Aesop


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We only have ourselves to go on, and it’s enough…" -Charles Bukowski



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Ah, blissful naivete. Never fought for something you cared about? A kiss on the cheek cures all, huh?

Life is not all violent, but to say violence is something 'illusionary' is mistaken. It is fundamental to all creatures. Gorillas have no (other than a few species of snake) natural adversaries in their environment. But that is no matter, anyway...every carnivore must employ violence in order to survive; I don't think lions have time for existential ponderings, do you?

"Well, we humans truly aren't carnivores. We're healthier when we avoid meat." Wrong. Meat is the most nutrient-dense matter we can put in our mouths, and our forefathers didn't have the luxury of 'matching amino acids'...absurd.

Look, you don't have to be a violent person, and good for you if you're not. But to say that violence is not a natural (and necessary) part of nature (of which we a part) is nonsense. Commendable, but not true, and that is what you're shooting for, right?
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We were made to forget, and hence, in a sense, 'programmed' for violence---> 10,000 years ago. For without hope, man becomes a violent beast. -Much like any other animal trapped in a corner...and we have been trapped, by the greedy. malicious people we have let rise to powers that no man should have at his beck and call...

It is not human nature, violence, merely an experiment, if you will. A means of accelerated experience, I believe. It has gone afoul and will be corrected shortly------>very soon, in fact.

Many of the top scientists have argued that it is human nature, this need for conflict, need for war. Not true---------->absolutely false...

They have argued this 'fact' based on history, another illusionary basis for self fulfilling prophecy...


They put forth human as always a violent creature. There is no proof of this, in fact, the earliest 'proof' of human war is supposedly a mere 13,000 years ago, somewhere in Sudan. Nothing else, evidence of mass violence, has been dated past 10,000 years.

Certain scientists point to the our closest relatives for collaboration in their hypothesis. This is misleading, as well..All reports of primates engaged in any sort of this activity, occurred at least a decade after any human involvement. Perhaps it is just a by-product of human encroachment. Jane Goodall spent over a decade in the wild, witnessing not a single violent episode, of this nature..less intelligent lifeforms tend to mimic..


Darker days are yet to come...stay strong in your beliefs, good will prevail...

You will remember.

We are not war
rose
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I humbly disagree. We were divinely created beings, not a 'program'made to forget. you have a collection of many different topics, and attempted to make it fit your 'we are not war'bull#it.
take a look at humanity, we have turned into a virus for this planet,in every aspect of they way. Socially,politically,environmentally, EVERY way. I believe it is human nature, and History agrees. It is ugly.But I try to better the world around me a little everyday.
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You're with diddly squat. What an optimistically, chain yanking whanker of a chicken choker you are.
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I realize the difficulty, let the pain go..no worries, in time it shall let go of you
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The truth shall set me free? Horsepussy. Big ol giant horsepussy. The bullshit will get stepped in and thats that. Get un-new-aged. Try it.
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Nothing wrong with wanting to be the change. Think about all the people we influence in our daily lives. We give off positive and negative energy. You want to stay in that dark place, that's your choice. But I wish you would have a change of heart.

:HowToChangeTheWo:
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Damnit, you're right. What was i thinking? To exude anything but a peaceful, un-warlike stance is insanity. And to assume a stance otherwise is uncivilized. Thanks for making me forget what i forgot to remember.
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I realize the difficulty, let the pain go..no worries, in time it shall let go of you
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The truth shall set me free? Horsepussy. Big ol giant horsepussy. The bullshit will get stepped in and thats that. Get un-new-aged. Try it.
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Nothing wrong with wanting to be the change. Think about all the people we influence in our daily lives. We give off positive and negative energy. You want to stay in that dark place, that's your choice. But I wish you would have a change of heart.

:HowToChangeTheWo:
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Damnit, you're right. What was i thinking? To exude anything but a peaceful, un-warlike stance is insanity. And to assume a stance otherwise is uncivilized. Thanks for making me forget what i forgot to remember.
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Wow - that is so nice. I'm happy someone responded to something I had to say!

:revolving:
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Op,

You proclaim, “…we have been trapped, by the greedy, malicious people we have let rise to powers that no man should have at his beck and call” however many yield their power of autonomy and self reliance to tyrants such as obama and lap food from his hand like dutiful pets.

In human prehistoric history, it has always been those who could forge an existence for themselves and others who became the rulers and others supportive workers. If you deem otherwise consider what you would do if you had no food and neighbors did and chose to store for the future instead of trade what would you do.

Do not underestimate the power of self-preservation and hunger is a forceful motivator.
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not the point.
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Then clarify
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We were made to forget, and hence, in a sense, 'programmed' for violence---> 10,000 years ago. For without hope, man becomes a violent beast. -Much like any other animal trapped in a corner...and we have been trapped, by the greedy. malicious people we have let rise to powers that no man should have at his beck and call...

It is not human nature, violence, merely an experiment, if you will. A means of accelerated experience, I believe. It has gone afoul and will be corrected shortly------>very soon, in fact.

Many of the top scientists have argued that it is human nature, this need for conflict, need for war. Not true---------->absolutely false...

They have argued this 'fact' based on history, another illusionary basis for self fulfilling prophecy...


They put forth human as always a violent creature. There is no proof of this, in fact, the earliest 'proof' of human war is supposedly a mere 13,000 years ago, somewhere in Sudan. Nothing else, evidence of mass violence, has been dated past 10,000 years.

Certain scientists point to the our closest relatives for collaboration in their hypothesis. This is misleading, as well..All reports of primates engaged in any sort of this activity, occurred at least a decade after any human involvement. Perhaps it is just a by-product of human encroachment. Jane Goodall spent over a decade in the wild, witnessing not a single violent episode, of this nature..less intelligent lifeforms tend to mimic..


Darker days are yet to come...stay strong in your beliefs, good will prevail...

You will remember.

We are not war
rose
 Quoting: exiled1


Goes much further then this.

According to old chinises scripture. The Sky was moonless 25,000 years ago.

The chiniese have the Snake god worshiping at heart! why is that? Dragon snake = reptilian god.

The chiniesse got really close at one point to dominate the globe and they are going for it again.

The Dragon Race is the chiniesses. only the human/reptillian Hybrids will survive the plague.

Have you ever wondered why they have snake eys lids?
More to this, look at their language Really close to illuminati secret symbols and works the same way as hyroglyphs. Which are direct copy of the Gray's Language symbols.

at the end game they want to wipe the earth of all Hispanic , ((Cauc-asian)) and anyone else who is does not have chinesse,Japenesse,Korean attributes. ( Ever wondered why these ethnic groups are always Stuck in Crazy Control grids? No independant thoughts allowed?

It's all there for you to understand who really control this planet!
Those beheind the Elites are the same people behind the wealth and power of the chinesse tyrannies.

It is much easier to control if you devide people in ranks, also Keep Cowards as leading position, to assure yourself total conrol over those pupets.

The moon is nothing like a lovely thing. It is our Death Star and it's getting ready to fire at us on 2013.
To live is to believe in the power of dreams! To dream is to believe in the power of love! To love is to Know the truth!
The Desire to Be fuel the belief that you Are which ignite the Will to Become which bring back forth the desire to be...
Let it be-come you! It means Stop seeking your higher self! It is seeking you! Stand still in your mind to calm the waters of your mind and then it shall find you, so you can ride those waves together!
your true self lies somewhere between your heart and your consciousness. It is called the heart consciousness,which is the creator, which is you!
The heart create the emotions and our mind evoke its purpose, from which we dream the life we live in order to imagine the nature of reality and finally remember love!

The highest Purpose of our mind is the ability to Forget! Go on and Forgive yourself!
There is no love in truth but there is truth in love!
Be authentic, nobody else can do it for you!
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Ah, blissful naivete. Never fought for something you cared about? A kiss on the cheek cures all, huh?

Life is not all violent, but to say violence is something 'illusionary' is mistaken. It is fundamental to all creatures. Gorillas have no (other than a few species of snake) natural adversaries in their environment. But that is no matter, anyway...every carnivore must employ violence in order to survive; I don't think lions have time for existential ponderings, do you?

"Well, we humans truly aren't carnivores. We're healthier when we avoid meat." Wrong. Meat is the most nutrient-dense matter we can put in our mouths, and our forefathers didn't have the luxury of 'matching amino acids'...absurd.

Look, you don't have to be a violent person, and good for you if you're not. But to say that violence is not a natural (and necessary) part of nature (of which we a part) is nonsense. Commendable, but not true, and that is what you're shooting for, right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1347486



I know you are referring to OP but I'm going to jump in with my two cents anyway.

The point is not that we have no capacity for selfishness, violence and greed.

The POINT is that we are not naturally imbalanced in this respect. Mankind has an enormous capacity for compassion and empathy but our society does not reward this behavior. Rather, it is the morally corrupted that are lavished with positions of fame, power and wealth.

Sure we talk about integrity and decency but this is just lip service. It's double speak. All you have to do is look at the political class to know that my words are not without truth.

There is a huge imbalance in our natural tendencies due to the social institutions that are in place.

And the populous has become truly mad over the many decades of lies that we have been fed....... " War is peace", is a just one example of many.

When we were children we were born into an illusionary system and told repeatedly that this was our nature. After a while the lie becomes the socially accepted truth and the mind, while capable of indoctrinating such insane thought patterns, does so with many ill affects.

Most of the doctrines and philosophies, that we have all been raised to hold as truth, are nothing more than a cancerous growth invading the healthier aspects of our souls.

"When we look out, we don't see in". If ya catch my drift.

Last Edited by Sammie on 12/09/2012 12:09 AM
"Beware lest you lose the substance by grasping at the shadow".  ~Aesop


"Once in a dream I saw a snake swallowing its own tail, it swallowed and swallowed until it got halfway round, and there it stopped and there it stayed, it was stuffed with its own self. Some fix, that.
We only have ourselves to go on, and it’s enough…" -Charles Bukowski



"Grasping at things can only yield one of two results:
Either the thing you are grasping at disappears, or you yourself disappear.
It is only a matter of which occurs first."
-Goenka
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Ah, blissful naivete. Never fought for something you cared about? A kiss on the cheek cures all, huh?

Life is not all violent, but to say violence is something 'illusionary' is mistaken. It is fundamental to all creatures. Gorillas have no (other than a few species of snake) natural adversaries in their environment. But that is no matter, anyway...every carnivore must employ violence in order to survive; I don't think lions have time for existential ponderings, do you?

"Well, we humans truly aren't carnivores. We're healthier when we avoid meat." Wrong. Meat is the most nutrient-dense matter we can put in our mouths, and our forefathers didn't have the luxury of 'matching amino acids'...absurd.

Look, you don't have to be a violent person, and good for you if you're not. But to say that violence is not a natural (and necessary) part of nature (of which we a part) is nonsense. Commendable, but not true, and that is what you're shooting for, right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1347486



I know you are referring to OP but I'm going to jump in with my two cents anyway.

The point is not that we have no capacity for selfishness, violence and greed.

The POINT is that we are not naturally imbalanced in this respect. Mankind has an enormous capacity for compassion and empathy but our society does not reward this behavior. Rather, it is the morally corrupted that are lavished with positions of fame, power and wealth.

Sure we talk about integrity and decency but this is just lip service. It's double speak. All you have to do is look at the political class to know that my words are not without truth.

There is a huge imbalance in our natural tendencies due to the social institutions that are in place.

And the populous has become truly mad over the many decades of lies that we have been fed....... " War is peace", is a just one example of many.

When we were children we were born into an illusionary system and told repeatedly that this was our nature. After a while the lie becomes the socially accepted truth and the mind, while capable of indoctrinating such insane thought patterns, does so with many ill affects.

Most of the doctrines and philosophies, that we have all been raised to hold as truth, are nothing more than a cancerous growth invading the healthier aspects of our souls.

"When we look out, we don't see in". If ya catch my drift.
 Quoting: Sammie


Still, it goes against our nature. What would Bukowski say?
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Ah, blissful naivete. Never fought for something you cared about? A kiss on the cheek cures all, huh?

Life is not all violent, but to say violence is something 'illusionary' is mistaken. It is fundamental to all creatures. Gorillas have no (other than a few species of snake) natural adversaries in their environment. But that is no matter, anyway...every carnivore must employ violence in order to survive; I don't think lions have time for existential ponderings, do you?

"Well, we humans truly aren't carnivores. We're healthier when we avoid meat." Wrong. Meat is the most nutrient-dense matter we can put in our mouths, and our forefathers didn't have the luxury of 'matching amino acids'...absurd.

Look, you don't have to be a violent person, and good for you if you're not. But to say that violence is not a natural (and necessary) part of nature (of which we a part) is nonsense. Commendable, but not true, and that is what you're shooting for, right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1347486



I know you are referring to OP but I'm going to jump in with my two cents anyway.

The point is not that we have no capacity for selfishness, violence and greed.

The POINT is that we are not naturally imbalanced in this respect. Mankind has an enormous capacity for compassion and empathy but our society does not reward this behavior. Rather, it is the morally corrupted that are lavished with positions of fame, power and wealth.

Sure we talk about integrity and decency but this is just lip service. It's double speak. All you have to do is look at the political class to know that my words are not without truth.

There is a huge imbalance in our natural tendencies due to the social institutions that are in place.

And the populous has become truly mad over the many decades of lies that we have been fed....... " War is peace", is a just one example of many.

When we were children we were born into an illusionary system and told repeatedly that this was our nature. After a while the lie becomes the socially accepted truth and the mind, while capable of indoctrinating such insane thought patterns, does so with many ill affects.

Most of the doctrines and philosophies, that we have all been raised to hold as truth, are nothing more than a cancerous growth invading the healthier aspects of our souls.

"When we look out, we don't see in". If ya catch my drift.
 Quoting: Sammie


Still, it goes against our nature. What would Bukowski say?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29385455



"We're all going to die, all of us, what a circus! That alone should make us love each other but it doesn't. We are terrorized and flattened by trivialities, we are eaten up by nothing." -Charles Bukowski


"We are
Born like this
Into this
Into these carefully mad wars
Into the sight of broken factory windows of emptiness
Into bars where people no longer speak to each other
Into fist fights that end as shootings and knifings
Born into this
Into hospitals which are so expensive that it’s cheaper to die
Into lawyers who charge so much it’s cheaper to plead guilty
Into a country where the jails are full and the madhouses closed
Into a place where the masses elevate fools into rich heroes"
-Charles Bukowski



"The problem was you had to keep choosing between one evil or another, and no matter what you chose, they sliced a little bit more off you, until there was nothing left. At the age of 25 most people were finished. A whole god-damned nation of assholes driving automobiles, eating, having babies, doing everything in the worst way possible, like voting for the presidential candidates who reminded them most of themselves. I had no interests. I had no interest in anything. I had no idea how I was going to escape. At least the others had some taste for life. They seemed to understand something that I didn't understand. Maybe I was lacking. It was possible. I often felt inferior. I just wanted to get away from them. But there was no place to go."
-Charles Bukowski


"Those faces you see every day on the streets were not created entirely without hope: be kind to them: like you they have not escaped."
-Charles Bukowski



;)
"Beware lest you lose the substance by grasping at the shadow".  ~Aesop


"Once in a dream I saw a snake swallowing its own tail, it swallowed and swallowed until it got halfway round, and there it stopped and there it stayed, it was stuffed with its own self. Some fix, that.
We only have ourselves to go on, and it’s enough…" -Charles Bukowski



"Grasping at things can only yield one of two results:
Either the thing you are grasping at disappears, or you yourself disappear.
It is only a matter of which occurs first."
-Goenka
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Ah, blissful naivete. Never fought for something you cared about? A kiss on the cheek cures all, huh?

Life is not all violent, but to say violence is something 'illusionary' is mistaken. It is fundamental to all creatures. Gorillas have no (other than a few species of snake) natural adversaries in their environment. But that is no matter, anyway...every carnivore must employ violence in order to survive; I don't think lions have time for existential ponderings, do you?

"Well, we humans truly aren't carnivores. We're healthier when we avoid meat." Wrong. Meat is the most nutrient-dense matter we can put in our mouths, and our forefathers didn't have the luxury of 'matching amino acids'...absurd.

Look, you don't have to be a violent person, and good for you if you're not. But to say that violence is not a natural (and necessary) part of nature (of which we a part) is nonsense. Commendable, but not true, and that is what you're shooting for, right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1347486



I know you are referring to OP but I'm going to jump in with my two cents anyway.

The point is not that we have no capacity for selfishness, violence and greed.

The POINT is that we are not naturally imbalanced in this respect. Mankind has an enormous capacity for compassion and empathy but our society does not reward this behavior. Rather, it is the morally corrupted that are lavished with positions of fame, power and wealth.

Sure we talk about integrity and decency but this is just lip service. It's double speak. All you have to do is look at the political class to know that my words are not without truth.

There is a huge imbalance in our natural tendencies due to the social institutions that are in place.

And the populous has become truly mad over the many decades of lies that we have been fed....... " War is peace", is a just one example of many.

When we were children we were born into an illusionary system and told repeatedly that this was our nature. After a while the lie becomes the socially accepted truth and the mind, while capable of indoctrinating such insane thought patterns, does so with many ill affects.

Most of the doctrines and philosophies, that we have all been raised to hold as truth, are nothing more than a cancerous growth invading the healthier aspects of our souls.

"When we look out, we don't see in". If ya catch my drift.
 Quoting: Sammie


Still, it goes against our nature. What would Bukowski say?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29385455



"We're all going to die, all of us, what a circus! That alone should make us love each other but it doesn't. We are terrorized and flattened by trivialities, we are eaten up by nothing." -Charles Bukowski


"We are
Born like this
Into this
Into these carefully mad wars
Into the sight of broken factory windows of emptiness
Into bars where people no longer speak to each other
Into fist fights that end as shootings and knifings
Born into this
Into hospitals which are so expensive that it’s cheaper to die
Into lawyers who charge so much it’s cheaper to plead guilty
Into a country where the jails are full and the madhouses closed
Into a place where the masses elevate fools into rich heroes"
-Charles Bukowski



"The problem was you had to keep choosing between one evil or another, and no matter what you chose, they sliced a little bit more off you, until there was nothing left. At the age of 25 most people were finished. A whole god-damned nation of assholes driving automobiles, eating, having babies, doing everything in the worst way possible, like voting for the presidential candidates who reminded them most of themselves. I had no interests. I had no interest in anything. I had no idea how I was going to escape. At least the others had some taste for life. They seemed to understand something that I didn't understand. Maybe I was lacking. It was possible. I often felt inferior. I just wanted to get away from them. But there was no place to go."
-Charles Bukowski


"Those faces you see every day on the streets were not created entirely without hope: be kind to them: like you they have not escaped."
-Charles Bukowski



;)
 Quoting: Sammie

Exactly, Bukowski knew the futility of human logic. Thanks for helping to undermine the gist of what you previously said. Its a beautiful thought and its what we have sometimes but its not what we get most of the time.
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Op,

You proclaim, “…we have been trapped, by the greedy, malicious people we have let rise to powers that no man should have at his beck and call” however many yield their power of autonomy and self reliance to tyrants such as obama and lap food from his hand like dutiful pets.

In human prehistoric history, it has always been those who could forge an existence for themselves and others who became the rulers and others supportive workers. If you deem otherwise consider what you would do if you had no food and neighbors did and chose to store for the future instead of trade what would you do.

Do not underestimate the power of self-preservation and hunger is a forceful motivator.
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


"betrayal of servants"

animalistic self preservation, instincts;
motivate our entire world, withholding
abundance so the bees keep working
for the central axis of control; the wardens.

rose
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We are literally out of our element. This current paradigm is not our true nature.


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We were made to forget, and hence, in a sense, 'programmed' for violence---> 10,000 years ago. For without hope, man becomes a violent beast. -Much like any other animal trapped in a corner...and we have been trapped, by the greedy. malicious people we have let rise to powers that no man should have at his beck and call...

It is not human nature, violence, merely an experiment, if you will. A means of accelerated experience, I believe. It has gone afoul and will be corrected shortly------>very soon, in fact.

Many of the top scientists have argued that it is human nature, this need for conflict, need for war. Not true---------->absolutely false...

They have argued this 'fact' based on history, another illusionary basis for self fulfilling prophecy...


They put forth human as always a violent creature. There is no proof of this, in fact, the earliest 'proof' of human war is supposedly a mere 13,000 years ago, somewhere in Sudan. Nothing else, evidence of mass violence, has been dated past 10,000 years.

Certain scientists point to the our closest relatives for collaboration in their hypothesis. This is misleading, as well..All reports of primates engaged in any sort of this activity, occurred at least a decade after any human involvement. Perhaps it is just a by-product of human encroachment. Jane Goodall spent over a decade in the wild, witnessing not a single violent episode, of this nature..less intelligent lifeforms tend to mimic..


Darker days are yet to come...stay strong in your beliefs, good will prevail...

You will remember.

We are not war
rose
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Ok yeah, and the check is in the mail, and I won't cum in your mouth!!!
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Good post OP. But one really interesting thing that Jane Goodall discovered, and part of why she left the gorillas was a phenomenon we re-introduced to them ...

Basically one of the males found two empty petro cans from her camp. He learned he can make extremely loud noises by thrashing them around. He became the alpha of the tribe over night.

True story. She documented it along with all her other observations.
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Good post OP. But one really interesting thing that Jane Goodall discovered, and part of why she left the gorillas was a phenomenon we re-introduced to them ...

Basically one of the males found two empty petro cans from her camp. He learned he can make extremely loud noises by thrashing them around. He became the alpha of the tribe over night.

True story. She documented it along with all her other observations.
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lolsign

"fear of the noise of empty"

just omfg, that's the funniest ever.
petrolium gorilla king, frightening
his subjects to obedience by loud
noises from empty gasoline cans.

hf
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12/09/2012 11:40 PM
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Op,

You proclaim, “…we have been trapped, by the greedy, malicious people we have let rise to powers that no man should have at his beck and call” however many yield their power of autonomy and self reliance to tyrants such as obama and lap food from his hand like dutiful pets.

In human prehistoric history, it has always been those who could forge an existence for themselves and others who became the rulers and others supportive workers. If you deem otherwise consider what you would do if you had no food and neighbors did and chose to store for the future instead of trade what would you do.

Do not underestimate the power of self-preservation and hunger is a forceful motivator.
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"betrayal of servants"

animalistic self preservation, instincts;
motivate our entire world, withholding
abundance so the bees keep working
for the central axis of control; the wardens.

rose
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Pray tell oh worker bee, how you will earn your keep by yourself or are you angling simply to be kept by others more intelligent than you are.Do learn the true nature of bes and their relationship within the hive before complaining.





GLP