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Anonymous Coward User ID: 21829908 United States 12/08/2012 11:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Birds learn to use Cigerette buts as a pesticide for perasites in they're nests. Quoting: Millstone Local sparrows and finches incorporate smoked cigarette butts in their nests to provide cosy cellulose lining for their chicks and nicotine to ward off mites, they believe. A team led by Constantino Macias Garcia at the National Autonomous University monitored 57 nests and found that the tally of bugs declined as the number of smoked butts in each nest increased. Read more at: [link to phys.org] The nicotine works as a natural repellant, but it's just a coincidence that the birds use the material (cigarette butts) in their nests. They use all kinds of other things too, which have no benefit, other than being light, easy to carry, and take up space. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 28647427 United States 12/08/2012 11:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hahaha and sheeple pay up to 8-9 bucks a pack to suck that poison smoke into their lungs Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28647427 You're the sheeple if you really believe anything you said there. You're not serious are you? Are you saying all the chmical preservatives and , tar , methane in ciggarettes are good for you ? hahahaha oh god .... this place is always great for laughs. Just when you think you've heard it all. Although I could be wrong on how much sheeple pay for the smokes. Thats definitely possible. |
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Smashy76 User ID: 28768606 Canada 12/09/2012 01:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are using them as a "pesticide". No animal is going to make their home from a product that smells like cigarette butts cause they are light and easy... I smoke, and I can't even handle the stench of an astray. It'd be curious if the birds are taking a liking to a specific brand. I'm not racist, I hate everyone equally. I'd rather be judged by 12, then carried by 6. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20039970 Russia 12/09/2012 01:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Birds learn to use Cigerette buts as a pesticide for perasites in they're nests. Quoting: Millstone Local sparrows and finches incorporate smoked cigarette butts in their nests to provide cosy cellulose lining for their chicks and nicotine to ward off mites, they believe. A team led by Constantino Macias Garcia at the National Autonomous University monitored 57 nests and found that the tally of bugs declined as the number of smoked butts in each nest increased. Read more at: [link to phys.org] Wow! What a nice discovery! Was on GLP 4 days ago with video: Thread: Urban birds have learned to use a cigarette butts to smoke out parasites (VIDEO) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15289592 United States 12/09/2012 01:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | evolution at work here. i bet sparrows that are better at building nests with the correct twig/cig ratio will become much more prevalent. the only possible downside is if a significant portion of their gene pool rely on nicotine to ward of pests AND for some reason their was a regional shortage due to law or economics that made cigarettes unavailable. if the bird's survival was symbiotic it will likely lead to an ELE |
PSYMBIOSIS User ID: 15289592 United States 12/09/2012 01:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's just a coincidence that the "butts" kill parasites...the birds are using any available material available as they have always done... Quoting: BRIEF that is definitely a possibility. if that is the case I wonder how we can test it to see which case is valid. if they are doing it by coincidence, can't evolution use coincidence to determine who will survive? very interesting ... |
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SilverPatriot User ID: 10518597 United States 12/09/2012 02:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's just a coincidence that the "butts" kill parasites...the birds are using any available material available as they have always done... Quoting: BRIEF Natural Pesticides Tobacco or Nicotine Spray: This mixture is great for combating many different types of bugs; especially caterpillars, aphids, and many types of worms. 1 cup of tobacco 1 gallon of water 3 tablespoons of liquid dish soap Mix tobacco and water in container. Allow mixture to set for approximately 24 hours, then check the color. It should be the color of weak tea. If it is too light, allow to sit longer, if it is too dark, dilute with more water. Add the liquid soap to the mixture, and spray on plants. Warning: Don't use this solution on peppers, tomatoes, eggplants, or any other member of the solanaceous family. Tobacco chemicals can kill these types of plants! [link to www.thctalk.com] Insect Spray Warnings And Alternatives These alternatives are those that are made from organic components. There are some that are made from natural blend of plant extracts and oils. Others are either alcohol based or made from hot spices to repel insects. Most may not be aware but nicotine can also be used as insect repellant because it is extremely toxic to these harmful pests. And nicotine as insecticide has been widely used since 1880s. Miracle II is reported as effective on insect cleanup [link to www.skin-care-recipes-and-remedies.com] How to Get Rid of Stink Bugs Nicotine. Shred a pack of cigarettes and let it steep in a gallon of warm water over night, strain it through several layers of cheese cloth, and add two tablespoons of dish washing detergent to the mix, and spray that on the bugs and it will kill them for sure. (Wear gloves when handling the nicotine water; you don’t want to poison yourself with too much nicotine absorbing through your skin.) The detergent will break down along with the nicotine. The detergent lessens the surface tension of the water, making it coat the bugs well, and the nicotine poisons them. Both decompose after a while. [link to www.stinkbugs.org] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 27816282 Canada 12/09/2012 02:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Iv'e also seen a video of scientist studying why these seagulls were rubbing cigarette buts on their feathers they concluded it was to remove parasites. There is also a study regarding why WWI/WWII soldiers that were in the trenches that smoked never got sick or were infected by parasites. |
IRQ_1 User ID: 24600584 United States 12/09/2012 03:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's just a coincidence that the "butts" kill parasites...the birds are using any available material available as they have always done... Quoting: BRIEF Birds are keen observers of activity and in many ways better at understanding cause and effect then we are. I'm not saying they are going to invent a cyclotron anytime soon but when it comes down to what is effective they are uncanny in their ability to figure out what works. It's a bird thing. They are the "sport models" of animals. Jack of all trades master of none "shall not be infringed." BLUE RIBBON AWARNESS FOR MENS' HEALTH Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. --ISAAC ASIMOV I never 'Ad hominem' I don't need to. The Constitution means everything or nothing. You can't have both. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17584550 United States 12/09/2012 03:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Finally good to know that smokers can contribute positively to the environment. Good argument for when others bitch about the butts. But seriously, tobacco and it's by products are good parasite killers in wild animals. Elk, deer, etc. also chew on discarded cigarette butts to try and deworm. Look it up. |
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Anonymous Cowherder Stop the inanity! User ID: 28230270 United States 12/09/2012 04:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are using them as a "pesticide". No animal is going to make their home from a product that smells like cigarette butts cause they are light and easy... I smoke, and I can't even handle the stench of an astray. It'd be curious if the birds are taking a liking to a specific brand. Quoting: Smashy76 menthol or non-menthol? Repeal the 17th Amendment and the Reapportionment Act of 1929! Thread: First steps down the road to a return to the Constitutional Republic that we were intended to be. Restore the Republic. Thread: The Bill of Rights does NOT include age requirements! It's a flower, not something to be feared. - Moo! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28854292 United States 12/09/2012 04:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Best bird ever? Tuffed Titmouse. The ones that use my feeder pretty much sit in trees waiting for me to refill the damn thing. When I walk out to the feeder they fly to the tree the feeder hangs from and just wait. Birds are more intelligent than people give them credit for. They will cock their head, stare at you with one eye, and imprint an image of you into their brain. Once you see that look, you pretty much have a friend for life. It's pretty amusing. As for the cigarette butt thing, maybe it's the 50th titmouse syndrome. Or perhaps the birds that use the cigarette butts have a higher chick survival rate, so the little ones grow up and incorporate the butts into their nest, because that's how they grew up. Not sure they reasoned out that nicotine is an antimite ointment... Anyways, even bird scientists need funding! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15022013 Netherlands 12/09/2012 05:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WOw, that is pretty amazing, if true OP. I would not doubt. I watch the birds by the feeder and they do some amazing things. They certainly seem aware, in a state we could only dream of again obtaining: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15022013 Netherlands 12/09/2012 05:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Best bird ever? Tuffed Titmouse. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28854292 The ones that use my feeder pretty much sit in trees waiting for me to refill the damn thing. When I walk out to the feeder they fly to the tree the feeder hangs from and just wait. Birds are more intelligent than people give them credit for. They will cock their head, stare at you with one eye, and imprint an image of you into their brain. Once you see that look, you pretty much have a friend for life. It's pretty amusing. As for the cigarette butt thing, maybe it's the 50th titmouse syndrome. Or perhaps the birds that use the cigarette butts have a higher chick survival rate, so the little ones grow up and incorporate the butts into their nest, because that's how they grew up. Not sure they reasoned out that nicotine is an antimite ointment... Anyways, even bird scientists need funding! YES! The small Tits indeed wait around, signing songs, wanting to be fed. The Merel is really the most amazing though - they sometimes almost eat out of our hands! |