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Christians, did jesus use the KJV?

 
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Christians, did jesus use the KJV?
I want to know what you have to say on this.
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Re: Christians, did jesus use the KJV?
either you're really really stupid or you are baiting for some Christian bashing.
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Re: Christians, did jesus use the KJV?
I want to know what you have to say on this.
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the bible wasn't compiled till a few decades after he was killed.
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Re: Christians, did jesus use the KJV?
I would so well no.

But now matter which translation you go with they all same about the same thing

download e-sword [link to www.e-sword.net]
compare them all.
Pretty much the same
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Re: Christians, did jesus use the KJV?
so was supposed to be say
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Re: Christians, did jesus use the KJV?
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The KJV translation was completed in 1611 AD. Jesus was crucified around 27 AD. KJV was translated to the King's english. Jesus was Hebrew not English. So even if he had a translated manuscript from over 1500 years in the future why would he use a translation in a language his average audience would not be able to understand?
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no, he thought for himself.
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Re: Christians, did jesus use the KJV?
The OP is Canadian and as we all know they are not the most intelligent group of people. Especially the racist black Canadians.
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Re: Christians, did jesus use the KJV?
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The KJV translation was completed in 1611 AD. Jesus was crucified around 27 AD. KJV was translated to the King's english. Jesus was Hebrew not English. So even if he had a translated manuscript from over 1500 years in the future why would he use a translation in a language his average audience would not be able to understand?
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From what manuscripts was it translated?
Then what scriptures did jesus use?
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Re: Christians, did jesus use the KJV?
It's been pretty well proven that the KJV is a highly flawed version of christian texts/
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Re: Christians, did jesus use the KJV?
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The KJV translation was completed in 1611 AD. Jesus was crucified around 27 AD. KJV was translated to the King's english. Jesus was Hebrew not English. So even if he had a translated manuscript from over 1500 years in the future why would he use a translation in a language his average audience would not be able to understand?
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From what manuscripts was it translated?
Then what scriptures did jesus use?
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He quoted scriptures from the Old Testament. Many from Isaiah.
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The KJV translation was completed in 1611 AD. Jesus was crucified around 27 AD. KJV was translated to the King's english. Jesus was Hebrew not English. So even if he had a translated manuscript from over 1500 years in the future why would he use a translation in a language his average audience would not be able to understand?
 Quoting: Johnnymoy17


From what manuscripts was it translated?
Then what scriptures did jesus use?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27211004


He quoted scriptures from the Old Testament. Many from Isaiah.
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Are you a christian?
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The KJV translation was completed in 1611 AD. Jesus was crucified around 27 AD. KJV was translated to the King's english. Jesus was Hebrew not English. So even if he had a translated manuscript from over 1500 years in the future why would he use a translation in a language his average audience would not be able to understand?
 Quoting: Johnnymoy17


You seem to have an issue with translating scripture into different languages.

The Holy Manuscripts have been translated into every tongue on Earth save a handful or so.

KJV is just the most reliable and loyal translation to the original Chaldee, Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek. It is however not perfect and does contain some minor flaws that are easily corrected when comparing the translation to the original texts.

So what is the issue? I'm not sure I follow. Is it not important to translate Truth into every language that all men of the world benefit?

If memory serves me correctly, I believe the original first translation was Latin, and I think German and even Russian shortly after that. Both, the earliest and the latest efforts do not make for better translations. However, anyone that is able to rub two brain cells together would be able to contrast the KJV with other version in a Parallel Bible and then compare their findings with an Interlinear of the original language to see how much better the KJV nails it.

You cannot change the words and meaning of the original languages so that is the constant. The variable is the English translation; just how accurate does the English version convey the meaning of the original. I've done the work. I can tell you hands down the KJV is the most correct. But it does contain errors and even the 50 original KJV translators wrote a 50 page letter to the reader for guidance and info pertaining to the translation effort and possible mistakes.

So have you done the due diligence yourself before trying to make an issue where there is not?
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Re: Christians, did jesus use the KJV?
I want to know what you have to say on this.
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I say that you have the brains of an ice cube, Canucktard.

It absolutely drives Satan nuts that there are people who are going to be saved, and have what he will never have again. That is why you clowns are so determined to harass and heckle Christians. You just can't help it, because the demon that inhabits you, HATES the truth more than anything in the world.
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I want to know what you have to say on this.
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I say that you have the brains of an ice cube, Canucktard.

It absolutely drives Satan nuts that there are people who are going to be saved, and have what he will never have again. That is why you clowns are so determined to harass and heckle Christians. You just can't help it, because the demon that inhabits you, HATES the truth more than anything in the world.
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I have to agree with this.
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Re: Christians, did jesus use the KJV?
I want to know what you have to say on this.
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OP, stop. You have obviously NEVER opened a Bible. The New Testament of the Bible was created because of Jesus. Start reading. You've been summoned.
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Re: Christians, did jesus use the KJV?
No OP, he used the Torah and the Prophets....
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Re: Christians, did jesus use the KJV?
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The KJV translation was completed in 1611 AD. Jesus was crucified around 27 AD. KJV was translated to the King's english. Jesus was Hebrew not English. So even if he had a translated manuscript from over 1500 years in the future why would he use a translation in a language his average audience would not be able to understand?
 Quoting: Johnnymoy17


You seem to have an issue with translating scripture into different languages.

The Holy Manuscripts have been translated into every tongue on Earth save a handful or so.

KJV is just the most reliable and loyal translation to the original Chaldee, Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek. It is however not perfect and does contain some minor flaws that are easily corrected when comparing the translation to the original texts.

So what is the issue? I'm not sure I follow. Is it not important to translate Truth into every language that all men of the world benefit?

If memory serves me correctly, I believe the original first translation was Latin, and I think German and even Russian shortly after that. Both, the earliest and the latest efforts do not make for better translations. However, anyone that is able to rub two brain cells together would be able to contrast the KJV with other version in a Parallel Bible and then compare their findings with an Interlinear of the original language to see how much better the KJV nails it.

You cannot change the words and meaning of the original languages so that is the constant. The variable is the English translation; just how accurate does the English version convey the meaning of the original. I've done the work. I can tell you hands down the KJV is the most correct. But it does contain errors and even the 50 original KJV translators wrote a 50 page letter to the reader for guidance and info pertaining to the translation effort and possible mistakes.

So have you done the due diligence yourself before trying to make an issue where there is not?
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Ahh I see. The hebrew you speak of is not the original heberew which was a dead language brought back to life when there was no way to know weather it was true to the original hebrew or not, is that right?

The other thing is, exactly what book or scritures is the KJV based on or translated from?

Another comment is that the word jew did not exist befor 1800 or so as niether did the letter j exist befor 1700 or so. So it seems that, along with the previously mentined impossibilly reserected hebrew language, that language does change over time and does not remain constant.
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Re: Christians, did jesus use the KJV?
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To get his message across you mean?

Yeah sure.
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Re: Christians, did jesus use the KJV?
Jeebus was a lazy Jew, he wanted to believe but didnt want to do all the boring stuff like fasting or working so he decided to pick and choose which bits he believed, and Christians have been the same ever since, just a bunch of lazy jews.
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Re: Christians, did jesus use the KJV?
no
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Re: Christians, did jesus use the KJV?
Dont think they had KY Jelly back in those days.
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Re: Christians, did jesus use the KJV?
Christ did not "use" the Word.. Christ IS the Word .

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
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Re: Christians, did jesus use the KJV?
Yes, Jesus used the Masoretic text found in the KJV
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Re: Christians, did jesus use the KJV?
Jesus is a-temporal

"Before the times of abraham...I AM"
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Re: Christians, did jesus use the KJV?
Christ did not "use" the Word.. Christ IS the Word .

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
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Yes but every Sabbath he went to the Synagogues and preached from the Law & Prophets, and often quoted from them.
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Re: Christians, did jesus use the KJV?
Yes, Jesus used the Masoretic text found in the KJV
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Hmm, the masoretic text was not finnished till 1000 Ad.
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Re: Christians, did jesus use the KJV?
Christ did not "use" the Word.. Christ IS the Word .

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
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Yes but every Sabbath he went to the Synagogues and preached from the Law & Prophets, and often quoted from them.
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Thats right. What I wanna know is whay book did he point to?
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Re: Christians, did jesus use the KJV?
Yes, Jesus used the Masoretic text found in the KJV
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Hmm, the masoretic text was not finnished till 1000 Ad.
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The oldest copy may be that date but it is identical to the DSS.
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Re: Christians, did jesus use the KJV?
Yes, Jesus used the Masoretic text found in the KJV
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Hmm, the masoretic text was not finnished till 1000 Ad.
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The oldest copy may be that date but it is identical to the DSS.
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What language was the DSS writen in?

As I recall only the jews and the RC church had acsess to the DSS.





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