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Atheist quits West Point before Graduation in protest.

 
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A West Point student only 5 months away from graduation is quiting in protest of what he calls "criminal" behavior of his commanding officers.


from Huffington Post
by Blake Page Cadet, United States Military Academy at West Point

"Why I Don't Want to Be a West Point Graduate"

The title West Point Graduate carries a great deal of weight in this world. Those who earn it are given a "golden ticket" and wear a "ring of power" which will certainly carry them to successful careers with doors flung open in the military, in business, even in personal relationships; as so many are seduced by the historic prestige of the United States Military Academy. All of these things seem enticing, but for me personally they are not worth it. As I write this, I am five months from graduation. After nearly three and a half years here, there is no reason to suspect that I would be in any way incapable of completing the final requirements and walking across the stage in Michie Stadium with diploma in hand in another 174 days. Choosing to resign at this point also carries significant risk. The Army may seek recoupment in the form of about $200-300k which I will personally owe, or an additional term of up to 5 years of enlisted service. What could possibly compel me to pass over this incredible opportunity in exchange for such harsh penalties?

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The following is an excerpt from my resignation letter from West Point:

"I do not wish to be in any way associated with an institution which willfully disregards the Constitution of the United States of America by enforcing policies which run counter to the same. Examples of these policies include mandatory prayer, the maintenance of the 3rd Regiment Shield, awarding extra passes to Plebes who take part in religious retreats and chapel choirs, as well as informal policies such as the open disrespect of non-religious new cadets and incentivizing participation in religious activities through the chain of command."

As the President of the West Point Secular Student Alliance (SSA), a Military Association of Atheists and Freethinkers (MAAF) affiliate, and first Director of Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF) Affairs at West Point, I have been in a position to hear countless cadets recount their personal stories of frustration in dealing with the ongoing oppressive and unconstitutional bigotry they face for being non-religious. Cadets often come to me to seek assistance, guidance and reassurance in response to instances of debasing harassment. Many here are regularly told they do not deserve a place in the military. They are shown through policy that the Constitution guarantees their freedom of, but not from religion. Many are publically chastised for seeking out a community of likeminded people because it is such a common belief that Humanism and other non-religious philosophies are inherently immoral and worse.

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full story at:
[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

Supporting story on ABC OpEdNews Site:
[link to www.opednews.com]

Video of Blake Page at huffpo:
[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

As a Christian, I find this very troubling. It would appear that those who follow Jesus have become the new acceptable "boogyman". In on of the supporting articles about the 3rd regiment shield this kid goes on at length about how the cross on the shield shows that the Military supports and condones the actions of Christians during the Crusades. What? Are you kidding me?

At some point atheists are gonna have to realize that no one alive today who truly follows Jesus supports what happened during the Crusades. Atheists need to understand that the actions of the church during that time period does not in ANY way shape or form show the true nature of Jesus. The Crusades were evil and not of Jesus. I am not a member of a Church nor am I religious. I am a follower of Jesus, that's it. Nothing more, nothing less. Do not try to lump me in with all those to try to wield a sword that was never theirs to wield.

It would seem that we are producing soldiers that worry more about fairness and making sure not to offend another culture then they are about doing the job that has been given to them.
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boo hoo, the poor pathetic atheist couldn't cut West Point. He didn't have what it took so he's choosing to lash out at others.

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The Atheist was willing to sellout to the highest dollar and murder innocents for Uncle Sam, until he found out it in some way supported religion.

What a tard loser
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He's probably actually a Satanist just acting to be an Atheist.
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Suck it up Butter cup ! Boo hoo ! jerkit
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that will cause a stir.

compulsory adherence to one religion and prayer is highly unconstitutional.


is it written or part of the desires of the ruling elite at west point?
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Let the kid protest? Judging him just because he believes in something different makes you no better than him.

In fact of all religions Christianity is the most judgemental towards others being that you must accept Jesus Christ as your lord and savior and that he died on cross for your sins just for you to enter Heaven.

With that notion it means that others without this belief will go to Hell. So all others outside of Orthodox religion will burn in Hell.

Plus the Bible teaches you to be forgiving, so quit being hypocrites and let others protest and when the time arises for you to protest so be it. These rude remarks are honestly ignorant.
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I do have to wonder where his angst was prior to such a late point in his education. When you join the military, you must swear an oath to defend the constitution with GOD as your witness. He had no issue with that prior to relishing the benefit of four years of education, yet when it came time for him to supply his part of the bargain through military service to his country, he quit. This has more to do with his lack of integrity and honor than it does with any question of theology.

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He's a knot head. Should of never went there.cool2
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I AM

the 5 star bandit!
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His poor parents, unless they're atheists too.

Oh blood and water which gushed forth from the heart of
Jesus as a font of mercy and grace on this family, I trust in You.

Amen
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He part of don't ask don't tell?
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Are atheist some sort of religion now?
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I do have to wonder where his angst was prior to such a late point in his education. When you join the military, you must swear an oath to defend the constitution with GOD as your witness. He had no issue with that prior to relishing the benefit of four years of education, yet when it came time for him to supply his part of the bargain through military service to his country, he quit. This has more to do with his lack of integrity and honor than it does with any question of theology.
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BINGO!!!
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Give me a fipp'n break.. This is over some mandatory prayer (which is perfectly constitutional in itself). I hope they throw the book at the douche!
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Just like some used to claim being homosexual.
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Attention whore.

He waited just before Graduation to pull this stunt wasting time and money.

He didn't actually want to die serving his country.

I would give him a dishonorable discharge.

He simply isn't military fit.

An honorable discharge should have been given if he quit earlier.
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Why dont atheists ever consider that their POV offends Believers. Yet...we dont protest or waste years of education/training only to quit 6 months before.
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Only religitards make and go to war in the name of god. This so called prophet died for your sins. Doesnt mean you have a free pass to sin as much as you want as long as you repent before you die so you can go to heaven.

I swear, sometimes you freaks give me chills.

The kid, through education came to realize that religions are silly, and in good conscience cannot continue to pretend so he can get a piece of paper that says hes better than anyone else.

If anything that kids deserve a medal for being the ultimate anti-sheep.
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Only religitards make and go to war in the name of god. This so called prophet died for your sins. Doesnt mean you have a free pass to sin as much as you want as long as you repent before you die so you can go to heaven.

I swear, sometimes you freaks give me chills.

The kid, through education came to realize that religions are silly, and in good conscience cannot continue to pretend so he can get a piece of paper that says hes better than anyone else.

If anything that kids deserve a medal for being the ultimate anti-sheep.
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He waited right before graduation. After taking an oath.

This may be about religion to you.

To me it's the fact he isn't military fit. After rejecting God next he's going to be rejecting orders, taking sick leaves.

Glad hes out. You need character to serve, even atheist's serve they just BS their way through.

This kid wasted time and money.
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I suppose the thought never occurred to him that they might be preparing him for actual combat.

From what I've heard, 'there are no atheists in foxholes.'
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Only religitards make and go to war in the name of god. This so called prophet died for your sins. Doesnt mean you have a free pass to sin as much as you want as long as you repent before you die so you can go to heaven.

I swear, sometimes you freaks give me chills.

The kid, through education came to realize that religions are silly, and in good conscience cannot continue to pretend so he can get a piece of paper that says hes better than anyone else.

If anything that kids deserve a medal for being the ultimate anti-sheep.
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Sure, just as soon as he pays back the taxpayers for his education.
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Why dont atheists ever consider that their POV offends Believers. Yet...we dont protest or waste years of education/training only to quit 6 months before.
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Tons of atheist kids go to catholic schools.

They stand during prayer, they bow their heads.

They do it because its expected out of them at that school.

No one is forcing them to be there, they can go too a public school.

They don't resist out of respect even if they don't care.

Same with West Point. Tradition is tradition.

The kid could have left. But no he had to make a deal out of it. He lacks the respect to be in the military, if he cared he would have wrote a formal letter to his C.O.

Simple as that.
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He waited right before graduation. After taking an oath.

This may be about religion to you.

To me it's the fact he isn't military fit. After rejecting God next he's going to be rejecting orders, taking sick leaves.

Glad hes out. You need character to serve, even atheist's serve they just BS their way through.

This kid wasted time and money.
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Oh i get it, you need to believe in god to blindly accept orders to kill people. That makes so much sense, thanks for clearing that up...

You dont need character to serve, you just need to be subservient, and that my friend is nothing more than a synonym for brainwashed, voluntarily or not. Theres a difference patriotism and zealotry, one is about love, the other hate, i'll let you figure out which one is good.
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Atheists don't believe in about 28 million gods.

Christians don't believe in about 27,999,999 gods.

Just some perspective from an agnostic. Enjoy your day.
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boo hoo, the poor pathetic atheist couldn't cut West Point. He didn't have what it took so he's choosing to lash out at others.

dumbass
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i bet you couldnt even do 10 military push ups
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Let the kid protest? Judging him just because he believes in something different makes you no better than him.

In fact of all religions Christianity is the most judgemental towards others being that you must accept Jesus Christ as your lord and savior and that he died on cross for your sins just for you to enter Heaven.

With that notion it means that others without this belief will go to Hell. So all others outside of Orthodox religion will burn in Hell.

Plus the Bible teaches you to be forgiving, so quit being hypocrites and let others protest and when the time arises for you to protest so be it. These rude remarks are honestly ignorant.
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holy shit god dam jesus christ mother mary joseph and tonto ill give that a amen...churchlady
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reading ops articles rather than his post and discovered the subject gets honorable discharge and is not required to pay any fees or commit to any service.


sounds like they know he is right and and now awaiting the constitution to be enforced, rather than some silly religion.
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Only religitards make and go to war in the name of god. This so called prophet died for your sins. Doesnt mean you have a free pass to sin as much as you want as long as you repent before you die so you can go to heaven.

I swear, sometimes you freaks give me chills.

The kid, through education came to realize that religions are silly, and in good conscience cannot continue to pretend so he can get a piece of paper that says hes better than anyone else.

If anything that kids deserve a medal for being the ultimate anti-sheep.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18700349


He waited right before graduation. After taking an oath.

This may be about religion to you.

To me it's the fact he isn't military fit. After rejecting God next he's going to be rejecting orders, taking sick leaves.

Glad hes out. You need character to serve, even atheist's serve they just BS their way through.

This kid wasted time and money.
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dont you canuks still ride horses with muskets?
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Religious or not he is pointing out that it goes against the constitution.

As for the religious side of things, Atheists are no different to Christians. yes they don't believe in things but they still have the same morals and ideals of life and quite a few in the military are atheist yet get treated like shit as though they are lower beings even though they are all living and working toward a similar goal when they join the military.
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dont you canuks still ride horses with muskets?
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Thats funny, but theres no trunk on a horse to lock your musket in, so no.

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