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Did Costas overstep his bounds with gun comments?

 
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Did Costas overstep his bounds with gun comments?
"What I was talking about here — and I'm sorry if that wasn't clear to everybody — was a gun culture," Costas said in an appearance on MSNBC's "Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell" on Tuesday. "I never mentioned the Second Amendment. I never used the words 'gun control.' People inferred that."

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So he wanted to ban guns while he spewed...

Cowboys' Brent charged in death of teammate in car crash

[link to sports.yahoo.com]


Next he will spew about banning cars and alcohol.


Where will it end... wtf


How about we just ban sports and sports announcers... 5a
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12/09/2012 06:14 AM
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Re: Did Costas overstep his bounds with gun comments?
The right to bear arms is the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution in our Bill of Rights.

You know what the founders made number 1 in the Bill of Rights?

Freedom of sppech, moran!!
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Re: Did Costas overstep his bounds with gun comments?
The right to bear arms is the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution in our Bill of Rights.

You know what the founders made number 1 in the Bill of Rights?

Freedom of sppech, moran!!
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They need to make another one that gives everyone equal access to the American public or shut the fuck up with personal views when they are not asked for.

Bob Costas is an NWO cunt. He can go fuck himself.

Better yet he can be one of the Libtards that puts a sign on his lawn that "This house is gun free" when SHTF.

YOU are the moran.
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Re: Did Costas overstep his bounds with gun comments?
Yeah I heard the false equivalency on Limbaugh too, OP. The right wing really waits to hear from Limbaugh on everything before speaking out don't they?

Guns are in no way related to alcohol, cars, and knives. To kill someone with a knife is to have premeditation and uncompromising malice. To kill someone with a gun is as simple as a slip of a finger in a moment of passion. Fact is, this idiot and his girlfriend would be alive if it weren't for lax gun controls and the gun culture of professional sports. Costas was simply pointing this out by QUOTING someone, if you can't see that you're nothing but a partisan shill.
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Re: Did Costas overstep his bounds with gun comments?
Yeah I heard the false equivalency on Limbaugh too, OP. The right wing really waits to hear from Limbaugh on everything before speaking out don't they?

Guns are in no way related to alcohol, cars, and knives. To kill someone with a knife is to have premeditation and uncompromising malice. To kill someone with a gun is as simple as a slip of a finger in a moment of passion. Fact is, this idiot and his girlfriend would be alive if it weren't for lax gun controls and the gun culture of professional sports. Costas was simply pointing this out by QUOTING someone, if you can't see that you're nothing but a partisan shill.
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The football player would still be alive if not for cars and alcohol...

Idiots kill people.... not guns or cars or alcohol..
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Re: Did Costas overstep his bounds with gun comments?
so what?....do you think now that Costas has made this statement congress is going to go into emergency session and repeal the 2nd amendment?

hell, just do what I and millions of other Americans do, if you don't like someone's opinion, don't pay them any attention.
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Re: Did Costas overstep his bounds with gun comments?
Those were prepared remarks, not off-the-cuff statements. Didn't seem appropriate.

Also, many people have died from kitchen knives, bashed skulls or being choked to death in the heat of the moment. Blaming guns for the actions of an enraged man is nonsensical.
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People have a right to their opinions.

But come the fuck on and just let me watch a football game.
I don't care how realistic and grounded to reality you are, we all need an escape now and then. For this asshole to push this shit off was in really bad taste. I'm sick of these pointy headed elitist telling me what to do, think, say, eat, watch.....everything. And for the weak minded people that support the elitists. FUCK YOU

I know you believe in them but check this out.

beLIEve motherfuckers.
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Re: Did Costas overstep his bounds with gun comments?
All who are killed by guns are caused by a slip of the finger in a moment of passion.
None who are killed by knives involve momentary passion.
Your logic defies reason.
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Re: Did Costas overstep his bounds with gun comments?
The right to bear arms is the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution in our Bill of Rights.

You know what the founders made number 1 in the Bill of Rights?

Freedom of sppech, moran!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1399258


They need to make another one that gives everyone equal access to the American public or shut the fuck up with personal views when they are not asked for.

Bob Costas is an NWO cunt. He can go fuck himself.

Better yet he can be one of the Libtards that puts a sign on his lawn that "This house is gun free" when SHTF.

YOU are the moran.
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Might as well have a sign that says "Feel free to rob me and rape my wife."
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Re: Did Costas overstep his bounds with gun comments?
Yeah I heard the false equivalency on Limbaugh too, OP. The right wing really waits to hear from Limbaugh on everything before speaking out don't they?

Guns are in no way related to alcohol, cars, and knives. To kill someone with a knife is to have premeditation and uncompromising malice. To kill someone with a gun is as simple as a slip of a finger in a moment of passion. Fact is, this idiot and his girlfriend would be alive if it weren't for lax gun controls and the gun culture of professional sports. Costas was simply pointing this out by QUOTING someone, if you can't see that you're nothing but a partisan shill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6850261


The football player would still be alive if not for cars and alcohol...

Idiots kill people.... not guns or cars or alcohol..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211208


There are laws against drinking and driving. If there weren't, the roads would be terribly unsafe; the law is enough of a deterrent to keep most idiots off the road. No all, but most.

The are lax gun controls, thus any idiot can get their hands on one of one to kill their domestic partner. Thanks for proving my point.
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Re: Did Costas overstep his bounds with gun comments?
All who are killed by guns are caused by a slip of the finger in a moment of passion.
None who are killed by knives involve momentary passion.
Your logic defies reason.
 Quoting: Blonde Mom


Stabbing requires premeditation? When the knife block is sitting out on the counter six feet from where you're having a knock-down drag-out argument? When usually the gun is hidden in a closet or in a dresser drawer? What the fuck ever. Lol.
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Re: Did Costas overstep his bounds with gun comments?
Taking a knife and stabbing one is WAY different than pulling a gun and shooting someone. One is intimate--you need to be right next to them, you need to look at them, you often need to make multiple stabs, you have the time to think about what you are doing before/as you are doing it. It takes a cold hearted mother to stab someone and drain someones life away.

Now with a gun, there's an intrinsic distance. You can stand back. You don't even have to look at your target as you do it. You don't need to think about what you are doing. You can stand back and just apply pressure to your finger and its all over for whoever is on the receiving end. If its a moment of passion--that's all it is--a moment. There's no time for contemplation or orrection. Theres no "What the fuck am I doing" moment, until after its already happened (hence the suicide). Its over as soon as it happens.
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Re: Did Costas overstep his bounds with gun comments?
Taking a knife and stabbing one is WAY different than pulling a gun and shooting someone. One is intimate--you need to be right next to them, you need to look at them, you often need to make multiple stabs, you have the time to think about what you are doing before/as you are doing it. It takes a cold hearted mother to stab someone and drain someones life away.

Now with a gun, there's an intrinsic distance. You can stand back. You don't even have to look at your target as you do it. You don't need to think about what you are doing. You can stand back and just apply pressure to your finger and its all over for whoever is on the receiving end. If its a moment of passion--that's all it is--a moment. There's no time for contemplation or orrection. Theres no "What the fuck am I doing" moment, until after its already happened (hence the suicide). Its over as soon as it happens.
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That's all well and good, but there are generally almost THREE TIMES as many non-fatal injuries resulting from assaults with knives in the United States every year as there are from gunshot wounds. There are more homicides from firearms, but when 35% of all homicides *don't* involve use of a firearm, its pretty clear that the absence of a firearm isn't stopping much of anything.
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Re: Did Costas overstep his bounds with gun comments?
Taking a knife and stabbing one is WAY different than pulling a gun and shooting someone. One is intimate--you need to be right next to them, you need to look at them, you often need to make multiple stabs, you have the time to think about what you are doing before/as you are doing it. It takes a cold hearted mother to stab someone and drain someones life away.

Now with a gun, there's an intrinsic distance. You can stand back. You don't even have to look at your target as you do it. You don't need to think about what you are doing. You can stand back and just apply pressure to your finger and its all over for whoever is on the receiving end. If its a moment of passion--that's all it is--a moment. There's no time for contemplation or orrection. Theres no "What the fuck am I doing" moment, until after its already happened (hence the suicide). Its over as soon as it happens.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6850261


That's all well and good, but there are generally almost THREE TIMES as many non-fatal injuries resulting from assaults with knives in the United States every year as there are from gunshot wounds. There are more homicides from firearms, but when 35% of all homicides *don't* involve use of a firearm, its pretty clear that the absence of a firearm isn't stopping much of anything.
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Regarding non-fatal injuries and knives (or anything but a gun), doesn't that just prove my point further? When its not as simple as the pull of a trigger, there's more of a chance for correction/survival.

Regarding the percentage of homicides that *do* involve guns--that's quite a large percentage. You don't think that could/should be curbed at all? Food for thought I suppose. I'm going to bed. Have a good one.
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Re: Did Costas overstep his bounds with gun comments?
Regarding non-fatal injuries and knives (or anything but a gun), doesn't that just prove my point further? When its not as simple as the pull of a trigger, there's more of a chance for correction/survival.

Regarding the percentage of homicides that *do* involve guns--that's quite a large percentage. You don't think that could/should be curbed at all? Food for thought I suppose. I'm going to bed. Have a good one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6850261


No, because it shows that the 'up close and personal' argument about knives actually doesn't prevent their use. On the contrary, knives are used far more often in assaults than are firearms, it would seem. They're less likely to cause a fatal injury, on that point, I agree, but its because the weapon itself is less effective, not because of intent of the perpetrator.

And unfortunately, no, I don't think anything you do will curb those statistics. We have laws against homicide and assault, too, and they aren't deterred by those. More laws against weapons isn't going to stop anything, and in fact, would likely simply embolden society's troublemakers if you take away weapons from responsible citizens.
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Re: Did Costas overstep his bounds with gun comments?
Yes! Keep your shitty politics out of our game Costas you SHILL!
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Re: Did Costas overstep his bounds with gun comments?
Taking a knife and stabbing one is WAY different than pulling a gun and shooting someone. One is intimate--you need to be right next to them, you need to look at them, you often need to make multiple stabs, you have the time to think about what you are doing before/as you are doing it. It takes a cold hearted mother to stab someone and drain someones life away.

Now with a gun, there's an intrinsic distance. You can stand back. You don't even have to look at your target as you do it. You don't need to think about what you are doing. You can stand back and just apply pressure to your finger and its all over for whoever is on the receiving end. If its a moment of passion--that's all it is--a moment. There's no time for contemplation or orrection. Theres no "What the fuck am I doing" moment, until after its already happened (hence the suicide). Its over as soon as it happens.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6850261


That's all well and good, but there are generally almost THREE TIMES as many non-fatal injuries resulting from assaults with knives in the United States every year as there are from gunshot wounds. There are more homicides from firearms, but when 35% of all homicides *don't* involve use of a firearm, its pretty clear that the absence of a firearm isn't stopping much of anything.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17478519


Regarding non-fatal injuries and knives (or anything but a gun), doesn't that just prove my point further? When its not as simple as the pull of a trigger, there's more of a chance for correction/survival.

Regarding the percentage of homicides that *do* involve guns--that's quite a large percentage. You don't think that could/should be curbed at all? Food for thought I suppose. I'm going to bed. Have a good one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6850261


It's not that you don't have somewhat of a point, it's that gun ownership is sufficiently important for other reasons that it's worth it.

Which population still has the most freedom in the world? Ours.

Which country is essentially "invasion proof?" Ours.

In which country can a 90 year old ballerina easily kill and incapacitate a 300 lb rapist? Ours.

In which country can you truly take the right to self defense in hand? Ours.


I truly don't think doing away with free gun ownership would bump the statistics in homicides down. I think for every person who didn't have a "moment of passion" with a gun in their hand, you'd have someone else dying from a violent home invasion, rape, etc, who would have otherwise intimidated or fought their attacker off. Theft becomes a whole different deal if people know that they're almost certainly not going to encounter a firearm when entering a home(and they themselves are much more likely to have one, because criminals don't give a flip about gun laws.)

For all those reasons, it's worth it to have free gun ownership, even if there is occasional tragedy.

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