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14.50 per pack for cigs in NYC

 
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12/09/2012 02:10 PM
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I don't see where the Problem is. Even 14.50 is a Joke its better for you, your environment and your health to STOP smoking at all. ASAP

Nicotine is messing with your brain, and tar is also not very healthy for your lungs.

I once read if you stop smoking before the age of 35 you can minmize the damage done to your body. But the older you get and the more you smoke the more it is like digging your own grave.
And on top of that you sponsor the government with your taxes and the tobacco industry with your money.

Stop now or at least minimize it as good as you can.

Good luck.tomato
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but you'll eat a process chicken choked full of growth hormones....to be fully mature in less than 3 months?.....processed foods will get you long before smoking tobacco!
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12/09/2012 02:13 PM
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$32 per carton here on the Rez, Cant beat that!
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Heard dat!!
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12/09/2012 02:22 PM
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Atleast the goverments can do something right.they care about us. about the smoking.

tounge
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it's now $13.45 for a pack of 25cigs at the store where I am at. (Ontario)

In 2009 the presidents of Imperial tobacco company & also MacDonalds tobacco company (two of the biggest canadian tobacco companies) said they only receive $3.50 a pack.

The rest is all tax money that goes into the governments pockets.
So do the math , that's $10.00 tax on every single pack of 25cigs.

A carton of 8 packs of 25cigs (total 200cigs) costs around $89.00

It's pure robbery.

Solution::: Go see the indians on the reserve & get a case of 50 cartons (total 10,000cigs) for $420

Just dont get caught, because then the government will seize your house & vehicles.

I find the indian cigs taste more like american tobacco flavor than the canadian tobacco flavor.
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12/09/2012 02:23 PM
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I smoke a pipe. I never inhale the smoke, the tobacco I use has never seen chemical additives or pesticides. I grow about half of the tobacco I use in my blends myself. Last I checked, it is legal for anyone to grow tobacco in the U.S. for their own use.

I used to smoke cigarettes. I had to quit them. They were killing me and I could notice the strain they where having on my body. Interestingly enough, there is little to no valid evidence that pipe smoking in the way I do (never inhale) is harmful. In fact, many pipe smokers like myself actually outlive non-smokers.

Now my grandmother smoked a pipe in much the way I do, and it did eventually kill her. They contributed her death as possibly being complicated by her smoking indoors. And my family buried her at the young age of 98 years. So I am reminded of the dangers of smoking. She could of had another 2-3 vibrant years....
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My Aunt lived to 102,my grandmother until she was 98, they both smoked none filtered when I was young, I think my aunt switched to filters when she was 90 something, of the dozens of people from the previous generation of my family , NONE of then died from Lung cancer or emphysema.
I did have an Uncle that was killed by asbestosis when he was 80+ but he never smoked.
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12/09/2012 02:27 PM
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Atleast the goverments can do something right.they care about us. about the smoking.

tounge
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Do they? Or do they know something about smoking that you don't.
Japan and Greece have the highest % of smokers by population in the world and also have the lowest incidence of cancer, heart disease and high blood pressure, don't you find that a little curious ?
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Re: 14.50 per pack for cigs in NYC
14.50$ ???
are you serious?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25701329


The U.S. federal government [central government] puts a huge tax on cigarettes [some other tobacco products like cigars, cigarillos, chew, dip, snus are taxed much less]. Individual state governments put an additional tax. There's a POS [point of sale] tax, and some municipalities like NYC have the right to add their own tax, and they do.

Where I live in Boston, name brand cigarettes can cost anywhere from around 6 dollars to 8-10 dollars a pack for the real foo-foo brands. But, you can but these things called 'Little Cigars' which are cigarettes wrapped in tobacco sheet product rather than paper, and are a little heavier than cigarettes,but have a filter and are roughly the same size as cigarettes, at around 2-2.50 a pack. You can also get tobacco products online from Indian reservations [tribal land] very cheaply, because they are semi-autonomous territory inside the United States. Roll your own is also very cheap.

There's also a big black market in cigarettes in NYC and elsewhere.
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"Good weed" prices will skyrocket once the government gets their fingers in the game.
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LOL.

This is literally impossible. Only if the government clamps down on weed is when it will get more expensive. Which they are not. But they are coming down on cigarettes hard, hence the high prices.
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Re: 14.50 per pack for cigs in NYC
it's now $13.45 for a pack of 25cigs at the store where I am at. (Ontario)

In 2009 the presidents of Imperial tobacco company & also MacDonalds tobacco company (two of the biggest canadian tobacco companies) said they only receive $3.50 a pack.

The rest is all tax money that goes into the governments pockets.
So do the math , that's $10.00 tax on every single pack of 25cigs.

A carton of 8 packs of 25cigs (total 200cigs) costs around $89.00

It's pure robbery.

Solution::: Go see the indians on the reserve & get a case of 50 cartons (total 10,000cigs) for $420

Just dont get caught, because then the government will seize your house & vehicles.

I find the indian cigs taste more like american tobacco flavor than the canadian tobacco flavor.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28920401


"Just dont get caught, because then the government will seize your house & vehicles."

get caught what? It's not illegal to go buy smokes on the reserve?!
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I smoke a pipe. I never inhale the smoke, the tobacco I use has never seen chemical additives or pesticides. I grow about half of the tobacco I use in my blends myself. Last I checked, it is legal for anyone to grow tobacco in the U.S. for their own use.

I used to smoke cigarettes. I had to quit them. They were killing me and I could notice the strain they where having on my body. Interestingly enough, there is little to no valid evidence that pipe smoking in the way I do (never inhale) is harmful. In fact, many pipe smokers like myself actually outlive non-smokers.

Now my grandmother smoked a pipe in much the way I do, and it did eventually kill her. They contributed her death as possibly being complicated by her smoking indoors. And my family buried her at the young age of 98 years. So I am reminded of the dangers of smoking. She could of had another 2-3 vibrant years....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29423387


My Aunt lived to 102,my grandmother until she was 98, they both smoked none filtered when I was young, I think my aunt switched to filters when she was 90 something, of the dozens of people from the previous generation of my family , NONE of then died from Lung cancer or emphysema.
I did have an Uncle that was killed by asbestosis when he was 80+ but he never smoked.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29292097



my hockey coach never smoked a cigarette in his life & nobody in his house ever smoked cigs either - he died of lung cancer.
My grandfather smoked 75 years+
He died at 94 peacefully in his sleep with no cancer at all in his body.
kinda makes you wonder?????
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12/09/2012 02:29 PM
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Same in london 12-14 dollars or so a pack
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12/09/2012 02:31 PM
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I smoke a pipe. I never inhale the smoke, the tobacco I use has never seen chemical additives or pesticides. I grow about half of the tobacco I use in my blends myself. Last I checked, it is legal for anyone to grow tobacco in the U.S. for their own use.

I used to smoke cigarettes. I had to quit them. They were killing me and I could notice the strain they where having on my body. Interestingly enough, there is little to no valid evidence that pipe smoking in the way I do (never inhale) is harmful. In fact, many pipe smokers like myself actually outlive non-smokers.

Now my grandmother smoked a pipe in much the way I do, and it did eventually kill her. They contributed her death as possibly being complicated by her smoking indoors. And my family buried her at the young age of 98 years. So I am reminded of the dangers of smoking. She could of had another 2-3 vibrant years....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29423387


My Aunt lived to 102,my grandmother until she was 98, they both smoked none filtered when I was young, I think my aunt switched to filters when she was 90 something, of the dozens of people from the previous generation of my family , NONE of then died from Lung cancer or emphysema.
I did have an Uncle that was killed by asbestosis when he was 80+ but he never smoked.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29292097



my hockey coach never smoked a cigarette in his life & nobody in his house ever smoked cigs either - he died of lung cancer.
My grandfather smoked 75 years+
He died at 94 peacefully in his sleep with no cancer at all in his body.
kinda makes you wonder?????
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& my coach was only age 41 when he died of lung cancer*****
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it's now $13.45 for a pack of 25cigs at the store where I am at. (Ontario)

In 2009 the presidents of Imperial tobacco company & also MacDonalds tobacco company (two of the biggest canadian tobacco companies) said they only receive $3.50 a pack.

The rest is all tax money that goes into the governments pockets.
So do the math , that's $10.00 tax on every single pack of 25cigs.

A carton of 8 packs of 25cigs (total 200cigs) costs around $89.00

It's pure robbery.

Solution::: Go see the indians on the reserve & get a case of 50 cartons (total 10,000cigs) for $420

Just dont get caught, because then the government will seize your house & vehicles.

I find the indian cigs taste more like american tobacco flavor than the canadian tobacco flavor.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28920401


"Just dont get caught, because then the government will seize your house & vehicles."

get caught what? It's not illegal to go buy smokes on the reserve?!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17114980


its illegal here ,, unless you live on the res that is
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12/09/2012 02:32 PM
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Re: 14.50 per pack for cigs in NYC
$5.00 a pack here in Western North Carolina.
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12/09/2012 02:33 PM
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Marlboros, Camel 1.45 US here in Patagonia...
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screen saver on my computer is Patagonia. What a beautiful place.
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Re: 14.50 per pack for cigs in NYC
it's now $13.45 for a pack of 25cigs at the store where I am at. (Ontario)

In 2009 the presidents of Imperial tobacco company & also MacDonalds tobacco company (two of the biggest canadian tobacco companies) said they only receive $3.50 a pack.

The rest is all tax money that goes into the governments pockets.
So do the math , that's $10.00 tax on every single pack of 25cigs.

A carton of 8 packs of 25cigs (total 200cigs) costs around $89.00

It's pure robbery.

Solution::: Go see the indians on the reserve & get a case of 50 cartons (total 10,000cigs) for $420

Just dont get caught, because then the government will seize your house & vehicles.

I find the indian cigs taste more like american tobacco flavor than the canadian tobacco flavor.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28920401


"Just dont get caught, because then the government will seize your house & vehicles."

get caught what? It's not illegal to go buy smokes on the reserve?!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17114980


its illegal here ,, unless you live on the res that is
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28920401


Buying for personal use on the reserve is legal I think, in Ontario. It's only illegal to sell them (or move them over borders)
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12/09/2012 02:44 PM
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Re: 14.50 per pack for cigs in NYC
Should be $114.50 per pack.
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it's now $13.45 for a pack of 25cigs at the store where I am at. (Ontario)

In 2009 the presidents of Imperial tobacco company & also MacDonalds tobacco company (two of the biggest canadian tobacco companies) said they only receive $3.50 a pack.

The rest is all tax money that goes into the governments pockets.
So do the math , that's $10.00 tax on every single pack of 25cigs.

A carton of 8 packs of 25cigs (total 200cigs) costs around $89.00

It's pure robbery.

Solution::: Go see the indians on the reserve & get a case of 50 cartons (total 10,000cigs) for $420

Just dont get caught, because then the government will seize your house & vehicles.

I find the indian cigs taste more like american tobacco flavor than the canadian tobacco flavor.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28920401


"Just dont get caught, because then the government will seize your house & vehicles."

get caught what? It's not illegal to go buy smokes on the reserve?!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17114980


its illegal here ,, unless you live on the res that is
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28920401


Buying for personal use on the reserve is legal I think, in Ontario. It's only illegal to sell them (or move them over borders)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17114980


maybe if you only buy 1 carton at a time or something like that?? im not sure - I know tourists passing thru can buy a couple packs or cartons no prob,,
but usually any white man who does not live on the reserve will get busted for "contraband cigarettes" as soon as he leaves the reserve with the cigs,, happens all the time around here
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I can remember when i paid $12.50 a carton for name brand cigs,current at $45.00 per and no name brands.
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I remember when they were 9cents a pack in the navy. 1955.
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it's now $13.45 for a pack of 25cigs at the store where I am at. (Ontario)

In 2009 the presidents of Imperial tobacco company & also MacDonalds tobacco company (two of the biggest canadian tobacco companies) said they only receive $3.50 a pack.

The rest is all tax money that goes into the governments pockets.
So do the math , that's $10.00 tax on every single pack of 25cigs.

A carton of 8 packs of 25cigs (total 200cigs) costs around $89.00

It's pure robbery.

Solution::: Go see the indians on the reserve & get a case of 50 cartons (total 10,000cigs) for $420

Just dont get caught, because then the government will seize your house & vehicles.

I find the indian cigs taste more like american tobacco flavor than the canadian tobacco flavor.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28920401


"Just dont get caught, because then the government will seize your house & vehicles."

get caught what? It's not illegal to go buy smokes on the reserve?!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17114980


its illegal here ,, unless you live on the res that is
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28920401


Buying for personal use on the reserve is legal I think, in Ontario. It's only illegal to sell them (or move them over borders)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17114980


moving cigs off the reserve "is considered moving the cigs over borders"

them indian res smokes are for the indians & the tourists only
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$32 per carton here on the Rez, Cant beat that!
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Yeah, probably most non-North Americans don't understand about Indian reservations and how they're semi-autonomous territory inside the U.S. and Canada. But, the Canadian and U.S' federal and state and provincial governments are constantly going after them to collect tobacco tax.
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That is because Governments are Tyrannical Bastards

charlie
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Just another mafia. You don't pay up, they take everything you have and kill you if you try to resist.
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I can remember when i paid $12.50 a carton for name brand cigs,current at $45.00 per and no name brands.
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I remember when they were 9cents a pack in the navy. 1955.
 Quoting: mandit 1256624


lol...when i was about 7-9 years old dad would give me 1.00 for three packs of smokes with the last quarter for me!!
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I can remember when i paid $12.50 a carton for name brand cigs,current at $45.00 per and no name brands.
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I remember when they were 9cents a pack in the navy. 1955.
 Quoting: mandit 1256624


lol...when i was about 7-9 years old dad would give me 1.00 for three packs of smokes with the last quarter for me!!
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Bought them for him where they knew both of us and was never any problem....
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Re: 14.50 per pack for cigs in NYC
Should be $114.50 per pack.
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Should be $114.50 per pack.
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"Just dont get caught, because then the government will seize your house & vehicles."

get caught what? It's not illegal to go buy smokes on the reserve?!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17114980


its illegal here ,, unless you live on the res that is
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28920401


Buying for personal use on the reserve is legal I think, in Ontario. It's only illegal to sell them (or move them over borders)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17114980


maybe if you only buy 1 carton at a time or something like that?? im not sure - I know tourists passing thru can buy a couple packs or cartons no prob,,
but usually any white man who does not live on the reserve will get busted for "contraband cigarettes" as soon as he leaves the reserve with the cigs,, happens all the time around here
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im in niagara falls ny,we can go to the res anytime and buy anything,cheaper gas,cigs $25 carton,i didnt know canada was so restricted like that
:)
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fuck that...roll my own with natural tobacco (pipe tobacco),$17 a carton tubes and all.
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i'd be buying them online with a certain kind of anonymous currency not to be mentioned.
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its illegal here ,, unless you live on the res that is
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28920401


Buying for personal use on the reserve is legal I think, in Ontario. It's only illegal to sell them (or move them over borders)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17114980


maybe if you only buy 1 carton at a time or something like that?? im not sure - I know tourists passing thru can buy a couple packs or cartons no prob,,
but usually any white man who does not live on the reserve will get busted for "contraband cigarettes" as soon as he leaves the reserve with the cigs,, happens all the time around here
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28920401
im in niagara falls ny,we can go to the res anytime and buy anything,cheaper gas,cigs $25 carton,i didnt know canada was so restricted like that
 Quoting: betty189


yes they're very restricted in certain ways like that,
if you go once in a blue moon & buy something its not a big deal to them
but if they see you buying there constantly thats where they step in - it's our mafia government - they want tax on everything you buy from the res because they figure your selling it all 1/2 price once you get off the reserve if your going there that often.
Government cant tax the indians but they sure as hell want there $10 tax on every 25cigs a white canadian man smokes.
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its illegal here ,, unless you live on the res that is
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28920401


Buying for personal use on the reserve is legal I think, in Ontario. It's only illegal to sell them (or move them over borders)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17114980


maybe if you only buy 1 carton at a time or something like that?? im not sure - I know tourists passing thru can buy a couple packs or cartons no prob,,
but usually any white man who does not live on the reserve will get busted for "contraband cigarettes" as soon as he leaves the reserve with the cigs,, happens all the time around here
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28920401
im in niagara falls ny,we can go to the res anytime and buy anything,cheaper gas,cigs $25 carton,i didnt know canada was so restricted like that
 Quoting: betty189


niagara falls ny ???
that must mean you're pretty darn close to russ's new jerusalem branch davidian cult save the world tribe thingy he is workin' on ?





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