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Illegal Gets FREE KIDNEY .....yep, tax dollars at work

 
andawg221

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The thing is also his mother was the donor. So it didn't take a kidney from an American. It took a Mexican mothers kidney and gave it to her son that was also Mexican.

Please spin that into racism!

Or me playing a race card.
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well you meztizo wets are so stupid that either there are no doctors or medical schools or hospitals in mehico that


OR



The simply dont care for their own in an allegedly christian country and need a foreign muzlim communist to grant borrowed american money extorted from americans who already have an unpayable debt applied to them for the privilege so that aforementioned muzzie subversive can take credit for it and do it until the nation implodes under its own forced inability to function.
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You've argued that kidney could have went to an American.

Unless we are gonna start harvesting Mexicans kidneys, she gave her kidney to her son.

So by your ideas there are billions of worthless Mexicans that have perfectly good organs and we should take them as we need them.
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the way the narcotraficantes are gunning down their countryment in mexico, you'd think kidneys would be available on every streetcorner, but no, come to the land of the generous gringo, and bring your friends too...
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My brother died two years ago waiting for a kidney...I couldn't give him mine because I have a history of melanoma.

verysad
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The kidney came from a family member of his. It would not have been donated for a needy American citizen.

The problem is that both the donator and the kidney receiver are citizens of Mexico, yet American tax payer dollars are used to pay for the operation and lifetime of medication. The operation should have taken place in Mexico and been paid for by the Mexican government. The lifetime of medication, to prevent rejection, should be paid for by the the Mexican government.
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The thing is also his mother was the donor. So it didn't take a kidney from an American. It took a Mexican mothers kidney and gave it to her son that was also Mexican.

Please spin that into racism!

Or me playing a race card.
 Quoting: andawg221


well you meztizo wets are so stupid that either there are no doctors or medical schools or hospitals in mehico that


OR



The simply dont care for their own in an allegedly christian country and need a foreign muzlim communist to grant borrowed american money extorted from americans who already have an unpayable debt applied to them for the privilege so that aforementioned muzzie subversive can take credit for it and do it until the nation implodes under its own forced inability to function.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25390958


You've argued that kidney could have went to an American.

Unless we are gonna start harvesting Mexicans kidneys, she gave her kidney to her son.

So by your ideas there are billions of worthless Mexicans that have perfectly good organs and we should take them as we need them.
 Quoting: andawg221


what part of NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE dont you understand.

Charity for a needy citizen would have been nice.
I have a terminal disease and dont have insurance, so, can I come over and stay with you?
What's your address?
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12/09/2012 12:48 PM
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OH NO, USA saving someone's life so they can live longer on this planet.

ITS SO HORRIBLE!
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the way the narcotraficantes are gunning down their countryment in mexico, you'd think kidneys would be available on every streetcorner, but no, come to the land of the generous gringo, and bring your friends too...
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My brother died two years ago waiting for a kidney...I couldn't give him mine because I have a history of melanoma.

verysad
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youre gonna need your own kidneys then.

if you look around every small city and larger they all have at least one dialysis center, and every one that goes there as a patient is waiting for a kidney.
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12/09/2012 12:53 PM
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How about unemployed people.They out of luck too?
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12/09/2012 12:56 PM
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Do not forget that illegals and muzlums don't have to get ODRAMACARE EITHER....guess that is ok with LISA LISA, huh?!
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what we're gonna get is the following

A lifetime of antirejection drugs
A lifetime of disability payments as he cant cut lawns, lay concrete or lay shingles or tar.
A lifetime of doctors visits to monitor for rejection
A lifetime of medications for other issues that lead to the renal failure first, usually diabetes which is a progressive multiorgan disease.
A lifetime of medical tests
Another transplant kidney eventually, they tend to go bad every 5 yrs or so.
The opportunity to sue some health care provider(s) because something eventually goes wrong and results are compared to perfection.

Merry LaRaza.

The whole family is here in the states, they are on the dole, using fake papers and paid in cash or by criminality and taking jobs from americans, and what money they save by being subsidized by you, they send back home to pay for those that either arent here yet, or dont want to come, but at least they dont have to pay even the markedly discounted prices for medical and dental care in mexico compared to here.
Since the US subsidizes every other country by paying for the development process and the lawyers looting the system by implying that if the medics did everything right that nobody would ever die with perfect care, we pay for that as well
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The thing is also his mother was the donor. So it didn't take a kidney from an American. It took a Mexican mothers kidney and gave it to her son that was also Mexican.

Please spin that into racism!

Or me playing a race card.
 Quoting: andawg221


well you meztizo wets are so stupid that either there are no doctors or medical schools or hospitals in mehico that


OR



The simply dont care for their own in an allegedly christian country and need a foreign muzlim communist to grant borrowed american money extorted from americans who already have an unpayable debt applied to them for the privilege so that aforementioned muzzie subversive can take credit for it and do it until the nation implodes under its own forced inability to function.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25390958


You've argued that kidney could have went to an American.

Unless we are gonna start harvesting Mexicans kidneys, she gave her kidney to her son.

So by your ideas there are billions of worthless Mexicans that have perfectly good organs and we should take them as we need them.
 Quoting: andawg221


what part of NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE dont you understand.

Charity for a needy citizen would have been nice.
I have a terminal disease and dont have insurance, so, can I come over and stay with you?
What's your address?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25390958


I would put you out of your misery. The point is America wrecks countries then spends billions to rebuild them.

On top of the billions to destroy them.

We spent a ton of money on hati and other third world countries.

So why piss and moan about a surgery taking place here? When the military spends so much just to stick our nose in other countries business!

Your argument should be Americans should consistently mind our own business.

And the point is from a native American standpoint, the white man isn't supposed to be here!

But we are down to reservation living and looked at like anomalies.

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what we're gonna get is the following

A lifetime of antirejection drugs
A lifetime of disability payments as he cant cut lawns, lay concrete or lay shingles or tar.
A lifetime of doctors visits to monitor for rejection
A lifetime of medications for other issues that lead to the renal failure first, usually diabetes which is a progressive multiorgan disease.
A lifetime of medical tests
Another transplant kidney eventually, they tend to go bad every 5 yrs or so.
The opportunity to sue some health care provider(s) because something eventually goes wrong and results are compared to perfection.

Merry LaRaza.

The whole family is here in the states, they are on the dole, using fake papers and paid in cash or by criminality and taking jobs from americans, and what money they save by being subsidized by you, they send back home to pay for those that either arent here yet, or dont want to come, but at least they dont have to pay even the markedly discounted prices for medical and dental care in mexico compared to here.
Since the US subsidizes every other country by paying for the development process and the lawyers looting the system by implying that if the medics did everything right that nobody would ever die with perfect care, we pay for that as well
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25390958


the promises of being free from mr gummint are the exact promises of a 6 year old that wants a german shepard puppy and promises to feed it and walk it and take care of it and train it all by himself.

Uh huh.

Never buy the premises of the left or their subclass of self sanctified 'judeochristians', if you do, you lose automatically and it's no longer a discussion, but a directive
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Zechariah 7:9-10 "This is what the LORD of Heaven's Armies says: Judge fairly, and show mercy and kindness to one another. Do not oppress widows, orphans, foreigners, and the poor. And do not scheme against each other."
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


I wish all illegal aliens could read your post and be instructed by you.

They should stop oppressing our widows, orphans, and poor.

They should stop oppressing foreigners -- meaning us Americans. We are foreigners to them, you know.

They should stop scheming against us.

And they should stop telling us that their dishonesty and crookedness is good, and that we are bad for objecting to their crimes.
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the way the narcotraficantes are gunning down their countryment in mexico, you'd think kidneys would be available on every streetcorner, but no, come to the land of the generous gringo, and bring your friends too...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25390958


My brother died two years ago waiting for a kidney...I couldn't give him mine because I have a history of melanoma.

verysad
 Quoting: geminilion


youre gonna need your own kidneys then.

if you look around every small city and larger they all have at least one dialysis center, and every one that goes there as a patient is waiting for a kidney.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25390958


I would have gladly given him one of my kidneys. I am very torn, I would hate for someone, anyone, to die in want of medical attention but it has to be a fair system at the same time.
..."The soul is dyed the color of its thoughts. Think only on those things that are in line with your principles and can bear the light of day. The content of your character is your choice. Day by day, what you choose, what you think, and what you do is who you become. Your integrity is your destiny ... it is the light that guides your way."
Heraclitus
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well you meztizo wets are so stupid that either there are no doctors or medical schools or hospitals in mehico that


OR



The simply dont care for their own in an allegedly christian country and need a foreign muzlim communist to grant borrowed american money extorted from americans who already have an unpayable debt applied to them for the privilege so that aforementioned muzzie subversive can take credit for it and do it until the nation implodes under its own forced inability to function.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25390958


You've argued that kidney could have went to an American.

Unless we are gonna start harvesting Mexicans kidneys, she gave her kidney to her son.

So by your ideas there are billions of worthless Mexicans that have perfectly good organs and we should take them as we need them.
 Quoting: andawg221


what part of NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE dont you understand.

Charity for a needy citizen would have been nice.
I have a terminal disease and dont have insurance, so, can I come over and stay with you?
What's your address?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25390958


I would put you out of your misery. The point is America fucking wrecks countries then spends billions to rebuild them.

On top of the billions to destroy them.

We spent a ton of money on hati and other third world countries.

So why piss and moan about a surgery taking place here? When the military spends so much just to stick our nose in other countries business!

Your argument should be Americans should consistently mind our own business.

And the point is from a native American standpoint, the white man isn't supposed to be here!

But we are down to reservation living and looked at like fucking anomalies.
 Quoting: andawg221


how typical of your kind, the answer to anyone not willing to do what you want is a bullet.
I may have issues but as yet my index finger and grip are reasonably ok
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the way the narcotraficantes are gunning down their countryment in mexico, you'd think kidneys would be available on every streetcorner, but no, come to the land of the generous gringo, and bring your friends too...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25390958


My brother died two years ago waiting for a kidney...I couldn't give him mine because I have a history of melanoma.

verysad
 Quoting: geminilion


youre gonna need your own kidneys then.

if you look around every small city and larger they all have at least one dialysis center, and every one that goes there as a patient is waiting for a kidney.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25390958


I would have gladly given him one of my kidneys. I am very torn, I would hate for someone, anyone, to die in want of medical attention but it has to be a fair system at the same time.
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I understand and feel bad for your situation, but you've already been told you have not a cure from melanoma as much as a reprieve and often it goes to the kidneys.
Somehow the discussion always creeps into how 'judeochistianity' is about paying for everyone ELSE to stay alive, when in truth jesus taught to prepare for so as not to fear death as life is transitory.
I dont recall any passages that say that you must spend everyone elses own money to stay alive as long as possible.
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You've argued that kidney could have went to an American.

Unless we are gonna start harvesting Mexicans kidneys, she gave her kidney to her son.

So by your ideas there are billions of worthless Mexicans that have perfectly good organs and we should take them as we need them.
 Quoting: andawg221


what part of NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE dont you understand.

Charity for a needy citizen would have been nice.
I have a terminal disease and dont have insurance, so, can I come over and stay with you?
What's your address?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25390958


I would put you out of your misery. The point is America fucking wrecks countries then spends billions to rebuild them.

On top of the billions to destroy them.

We spent a ton of money on hati and other third world countries.

So why piss and moan about a surgery taking place here? When the military spends so much just to stick our nose in other countries business!

Your argument should be Americans should consistently mind our own business.

And the point is from a native American standpoint, the white man isn't supposed to be here!

But we are down to reservation living and looked at like fucking anomalies.
 Quoting: andawg221


how typical of your kind, the answer to anyone not willing to do what you want is a bullet.
I may have issues but as yet my index finger and grip are reasonably ok
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25390958


I'm not talking about a bullet. I said I would put you out of your misery.

What is your ailment? I would help you, no matter your color or nationality or religious beliefs for that matter.

We are all one. And lines drawn by man shouldn't determine if somebody deserves to live or die.
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how would farmers afford to hire legal citizens? It's impossible!
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We already have an Agricultural Guest Worker program. It's been on the books for years.
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The man's name is not "illegal", his name is Jorge Mariscal and he is a human being, same as you OP.

May God show you more mercy then you and some others show to people that live across man made borders because truth is that this is all of God's earth, not ours.

It belongs to Him, not you. You are a guest here, and He can evict you at anytime.

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Well you can get your taxes raised 25% more to help god's children. This is gods will you going to disobey????
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what part of NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE dont you understand.

Charity for a needy citizen would have been nice.
I have a terminal disease and dont have insurance, so, can I come over and stay with you?
What's your address?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25390958


I would put you out of your misery. The point is America fucking wrecks countries then spends billions to rebuild them.

On top of the billions to destroy them.

We spent a ton of money on hati and other third world countries.

So why piss and moan about a surgery taking place here? When the military spends so much just to stick our nose in other countries business!

Your argument should be Americans should consistently mind our own business.

And the point is from a native American standpoint, the white man isn't supposed to be here!

But we are down to reservation living and looked at like fucking anomalies.
 Quoting: andawg221


how typical of your kind, the answer to anyone not willing to do what you want is a bullet.
I may have issues but as yet my index finger and grip are reasonably ok
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25390958


I'm not talking about a bullet. I said I would put you out of your misery.

What is your ailment? I would help you, no matter your color or nationality or religious beliefs for that matter.

We are all one. And lines drawn by man shouldn't determine if somebody deserves to live or die.
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In all honesty I dont seek help, give it to someone else who is both worthy and honestly entitled as a kinsman, not a sneakthief shoving their way to the head of the line and sending all others tumbling ass over teakettle.
Dying means nothing to me, in actuality I cant wait to get off of this rock for whatever comes next
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Nice to save people, but NOT on our dime!
How much would WE have to pay?

[link to www.chicagotribune.com]
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I dont think anyone should have to pay when they are dieing and want to be saved. I see no problem in this.
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The illegal alien in the article is a Mexican citizen.

Mexico has a national healthcare system that covers everyone.

The illegal alien in the article is covered by Mexico's national healthcare system.

Perhaps Mexico should be billed for the healthcare we provided to the illegal alien.

[link to www.nature.com]
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Nice to save people, but NOT on our dime!
How much would WE have to pay?

[link to www.chicagotribune.com]
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I dont think anyone should have to pay when they are dieing and want to be saved. I see no problem in this.
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At the very end when all is said and done, this person will die anyway. Just as all of us will die.
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The man's name is not "illegal", his name is Jorge Mariscal and he is a human being, same as you OP.

May God show you more mercy then you and some others show to people that live across man made borders because truth is that this is all of God's earth, not ours.

It belongs to Him, not you. You are a guest here, and He can evict you at anytime.

:7728:
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Well you can get your taxes raised 25% more to help god's children. This is gods will you going to disobey????
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to the ptb-approved 'judeochristian' their vengeful god wants the nonchosen to pay for the first interlopers to the party by everyone deemed responsible giving the ptb money at the point of a gun, for which the state takes 3/4 for itself and provides only for their often irresponsible and demanding friends, and the ptb takes full credit, while marking down the whole amount, with interest as debt payable on demand applied to the responsible public who continue to imagine that they are any more wealthy than the ones that demand everything for free but accept no responsibility for themselves or for others.
How can those whose doctrine considers suicide a mortal sin nevertheless demand a functional inevitable suicide mediated by the ptb for their assigned enemies as homage to a vengeful god that demands sacrifice and punishment for the greater part of his creation for the ease and luxury for the tiny remainder of his creation?
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Then let MEXICO pay the dang bill.

GOD gives NO ONE a free ride.
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the US does! and wait... isn't the US God's Own Country...chuckle
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Yes, I think we should take care of our own first. Let the Mexicans be self sufficient and feed themselves and not be dependent on "others" to "lift: the spoon to their lips.
This goes for Kidney Beans or any other food they are redirecting to their mouths and from our own childrens'
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The illegal alien in the article is a Mexican citizen.

Mexico has a national healthcare system that covers everyone.

The illegal alien in the article is covered by Mexico's national healthcare system.

Perhaps Mexico should be billed for the healthcare we provided to the illegal alien.

[link to www.nature.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29301466


it's more comfortable to forget that fact.
The issue is in fact a false claim of need, and a true case of greed.

Claiming a national identity but extracting a living in a competing or other land is in fact invasion and theft for purposes of being a mexican looting america, not someone that wants to actually be american.

If there was no free money or free services, they would all go home, because they are here for the money and services and nothing more. They dont in fact want to be americans, because they live and retain allegiance to mehico.

This whole topic is one of lies and deceptions and if that were acceptable then jesus would have instead pulled up a table at the temple and gone into the moneychanging bidness for hisself
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I'm confused. What are taxpayers paying for?

The article says that "Loyola covers costs of transplant".

Hospitals do that sometimes.
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This is disgusting. This man's life was saved and all you guys can care about is if he pays taxes are not.

Besides which, he was treated by a private hospital, so it's not like the government did this.
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What would you get free if you entered Mexico illegally...

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