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Illegal Gets FREE KIDNEY .....yep, tax dollars at work

 
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Since when did we draw the line on "responsibility"?... now people not only DON'T have to be responsible for themselves and their health issues- now the rest of us have to take care of it. We have to draw a line SOMEWHERE, human or not, because eventually NO ONE left will be responsible, NO ONE will be left who can pay for these expenses. We are all becoming dependent.
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it would seem that some of us have been delegated BY SOMEONE without notice, without debate, the responsibility to be eternally and infinitely responsible to those that have been delegated to be 'responsibility free'.

That's gonna work forever, for realz.

People have to understand that those that feel entitled to steal eventually feel entitled to kill if for no other reason, it's more efficient.
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the only real debate here is those that know someday they will need to pay for their survival and wish to save for it are being looted by those that havent or wont bother to prepare for themselves and are stealing the savings, and by extention, the longevity of those that saved.

Theft, straight up


"though shalt not steal"

supported by

"though shalt not bear false witness" and "though shalt not COVET"

but all easily replaced by "though shalt pay up for ME, wite debbil BITCHES"
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Don't forget your ancestors were illegal immigrants too, you dicks.

However, they kill and took the native american's land like it was nothing, so chill the fuck out about illegal immigrants.

The best way i see is to help them become illegal, partly or timed at the very least and have them pay for taxes and officially join the american labor force.
For the once here, no use crying over spilled milk.

Oh and taking off some many whites and blacks leeches off of food stamps would help too.

Either way, illegal immigration is inevitable so get use to it.
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You want him to just move to Mexico and HOPE he can get a transplant? Lose his job and all his friends and family in the states?
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Did you read the article? This part :

"He says he nearly returned to Mexico after doctors said he wouldn't be able to receive a kidney transplant in the U.S. because he is undocumented."

So he did consider going back to his own country. So it was an option for him.

As for "losing his job" -- he's not entitled to have a job here in the US. And while millions of Americans are unemployed, and living in fear of losing everything they've got -- the unemployment rate in Mexico is like 5.3%, and their economy is growing.
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Don't forget your ancestors were illegal immigrants too, you dicks.

However, they kill and took the native american's land like it was nothing, so chill the fuck out about illegal immigrants.

The best way i see is to help them become illegal, partly or timed at the very least and have them pay for taxes and officially join the american labor force.
For the once here, no use crying over spilled milk.

Oh and taking off some many whites and blacks leeches off of food stamps would help too.

Either way, illegal immigration is inevitable so get use to it.
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I believe that the dear sweet first nation aboriginals had the seriously sick go off by themselves and die alone to provide for the survival of the tribe.
That's a good idea, dont you think?

When do we start?
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You want him to just move to Mexico and HOPE he can get a transplant? Lose his job and all his friends and family in the states?
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Did you read the article? This part :

"He says he nearly returned to Mexico after doctors said he wouldn't be able to receive a kidney transplant in the U.S. because he is undocumented."

So he did consider going back to his own country. So it was an option for him.

As for "losing his job" -- he's not entitled to have a job here in the US. And while millions of Americans are unemployed, and living in fear of losing everything they've got -- the unemployment rate in Mexico is like 5.3%, and their economy is growing.
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for a whole I 'considered' taking possession of the entire world, and kicking you all off, but, in my mercy, decided against it in the end and let you all live.


SO, what's my prize?


merkans will believe anything, totally gormless lot, you yanks, and bred to be so for easy disposal
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Don't forget your ancestors were illegal immigrants too, you dicks.

However, they kill and took the native american's land like it was nothing, so chill the fuck out about illegal immigrants.

The best way i see is to help them become illegal, partly or timed at the very least and have them pay for taxes and officially join the american labor force.
For the once here, no use crying over spilled milk.

Oh and taking off some many whites and blacks leeches off of food stamps would help too.

Either way, illegal immigration is inevitable so get use to it.
 Quoting: Areym


The are steps to take to become a legal citizen.

Nonetheless, what about instead of "illegal" vs "taxpayer"... how about irresponsible vs. responsible?

My husband's grandfather had to pay monthly payments to the hospital for his heart attack, even though it was nearly a million dollars for a starflight (helicopter) trip.
Why isn't this guy paying monthly payments? That is what I want to know.
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Don't forget your ancestors were illegal immigrants too, you dicks.

However, they kill and took the native american's land like it was nothing, so chill the fuck out about illegal immigrants.

The best way i see is to help them become illegal, partly or timed at the very least and have them pay for taxes and officially join the american labor force.
For the once here, no use crying over spilled milk.

Oh and taking off some many whites and blacks leeches off of food stamps would help too.

Either way, illegal immigration is inevitable so get use to it.
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in actuality mine were legal, and, except for that mr gummint says the systems broken, it's just the same as in 1930
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You want him to just move to Mexico and HOPE he can get a transplant? Lose his job and all his friends and family in the states?
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Did you read the article? This part :

"He says he nearly returned to Mexico after doctors said he wouldn't be able to receive a kidney transplant in the U.S. because he is undocumented."

So he did consider going back to his own country. So it was an option for him.

As for "losing his job" -- he's not entitled to have a job here in the US. And while millions of Americans are unemployed, and living in fear of losing everything they've got -- the unemployment rate in Mexico is like 5.3%, and their economy is growing.
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for a whole I 'considered' taking possession of the entire world, and kicking you all off, but, in my mercy, decided against it in the end and let you all live.
SO, what's my prize?
merkans will believe anything, totally gormless lot, you yanks, and bred to be so for easy disposal
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Please sober up before you post again. You are making no sense whatever.
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You want him to just move to Mexico and HOPE he can get a transplant? Lose his job and all his friends and family in the states?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9266723

Did you read the article? This part :

"He says he nearly returned to Mexico after doctors said he wouldn't be able to receive a kidney transplant in the U.S. because he is undocumented."

So he did consider going back to his own country. So it was an option for him.

As for "losing his job" -- he's not entitled to have a job here in the US. And while millions of Americans are unemployed, and living in fear of losing everything they've got -- the unemployment rate in Mexico is like 5.3%, and their economy is growing.
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for a whole I 'considered' taking possession of the entire world, and kicking you all off, but, in my mercy, decided against it in the end and let you all live.
SO, what's my prize?
merkans will believe anything, totally gormless lot, you yanks, and bred to be so for easy disposal
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Please sober up before you post again. You are making no sense whatever.
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not at all, I confessed I considered doing something, but changed my mind, and now I want you to by me my happymeal...
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Re: Illegal Gets FREE KIDNEY .....yep, tax dollars at work
There is an illegal girl in California who has had 4 American kidneys at 4 million dollars. Parents came here just to get the kidneys.
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There is an illegal girl in California who has had 4 American kidneys at 4 million dollars. Parents came here just to get the kidneys.
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well, maybe she really really REALLY wanted them so how could we refuse?
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There is an illegal girl in California who has had 4 American kidneys at 4 million dollars. Parents came here just to get the kidneys.
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What the hell did she need 4 for? Did the first set not work out???
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The man's name is not "illegal", his name is Jorge Mariscal and he is a human being, same as you OP.

May God show you more mercy then you and some others show to people that live across man made borders because truth is that this is all of God's earth, not ours.

It belongs to Him, not you. You are a guest here, and He can evict you at anytime.

:7728:
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putin
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There is an illegal girl in California who has had 4 American kidneys at 4 million dollars. Parents came here just to get the kidneys.
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What the hell did she need 4 for? Did the first set not work out???
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childrens kidney disease is often more severe, the transplants dont last long so they need to rinse lather repeat repeatedly.

For those that have to pay, they run out of benefits, for wets, they are entitled to drain the state and bring on the new order, and the extermination of the wite debbbil
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The man's name is not "illegal", his name is Jorge Mariscal and he is a human being, same as you OP.

May God show you more mercy then you and some others show to people that live across man made borders because truth is that this is all of God's earth, not ours.

It belongs to Him, not you. You are a guest here, and He can evict you at anytime.

:7728:
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putin
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lisalisa is having a 'judeochristian' theocracy charity party and sending everyone else the bill
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So I expect most of you would rather the person died, I am glad the person got what they needed, anyone else should be to. Happens here all the time. Anyone who's tax dollers were spent on this should be happy they saved a life. Look at the positive not the negative of the situation.
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So, there wasn't a person who was legally a member of our society who could have used this life-saving transplant? I suspect that this criminal occupier of our country cost someone else their life by taking this transplant. Where is your outrage about that? What if your 3 year old kid and an illegal alien were both a match for a kidney and they sneaked their ass into England and took it? I suppose you'd be just fine with that happening, right? Human life and rights and shit, right? Sure you would...
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Only if they matched his mother as that's who donated it.
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And, did you read the article? He has been working hard to raise money for all the costs that won't be covered, like his medications. Doesn't sound like he's asking for a free ride, just a chance at life.
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More importantly, if you read to the end of the article, you see that it was HIS MOTHER'S KIDNEY. His mother donated one of her kidneys to him.

I was upset about an illegal immigrant getting ahead of someone else in the waiting list, but knowing that it was his mother's kidney donated specially to him, I think I don't mind. Someone donated the cost of the operation including surgeon time, whether the surgeon, Medicaid, I don't know. But he didn't take a kidney from the available pool.
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There is an illegal girl in California who has had 4 American kidneys at 4 million dollars. Parents came here just to get the kidneys.
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What the hell did she need 4 for? Did the first set not work out???
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childrens kidney disease is often more severe, the transplants dont last long so they need to rinse lather repeat repeatedly.

For those that have to pay, they run out of benefits, for wets, they are entitled to drain the state and bring on the new order, and the extermination of the wite debbbil
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That's worse, it sounds like she butted in the line for available organs, and I don't think our hospitals should allow that.
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I would put you out of your misery. The point is America fucking wrecks countries then spends billions to rebuild them.

On top of the billions to destroy them.

We spent a ton of money on hati and other third world countries.

So why piss and moan about a surgery taking place here? When the military spends so much just to stick our nose in other countries business!

Your argument should be Americans should consistently mind our own business.

And the point is from a native American standpoint, the white man isn't supposed to be here!

But we are down to reservation living and looked at like fucking anomalies.
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how typical of your kind, the answer to anyone not willing to do what you want is a bullet.
I may have issues but as yet my index finger and grip are reasonably ok
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I'm not talking about a bullet. I said I would put you out of your misery.

What is your ailment? I would help you, no matter your color or nationality or religious beliefs for that matter.

We are all one. And lines drawn by man shouldn't determine if somebody deserves to live or die.
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In all honesty I dont seek help, give it to someone else who is both worthy and honestly entitled as a kinsman, not a sneakthief shoving their way to the head of the line and sending all others tumbling ass over teakettle.
Dying means nothing to me, in actuality I cant wait to get off of this rock for whatever comes next
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So you are fixing to check out and you have nothing better to do than worry about a Mexican getting a surgery in America?

I hope that you are being deceitful about that. And also pray for a peaceful passing.
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This is disgusting. This man's life was saved and all you guys can care about is if he pays taxes are not.

Besides which, he was treated by a private hospital, so it's not like the government did this.
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OK... iamwith

When the hospital does it for free we pay for it.. our costs go up...

NOTHING in this world is FREE...
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Oh, I'm sorry. Let's just let Illegal Aliens die because it might impact our bill slightly.

Jesus fucking Christ I've never been more disappointed in humanity then this moment. Everyone bitching about this really needs to look at themselves and think about how important life is.
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Since there is such a surplus of viable organs ready for transplant in the US of A right now, I can understand how we have so many to go around for illegal fucking aliens. Obviously none of our legal citizenry could have used this kidney. I don't suppose you stopped to consider for a second about the other person that probably died because your illegal received this particular kidney.

Why don't you empty out your checking account and your kitchen and give to them since you're such a self-righteous saint?
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It was his mothers kidney! She probably wouldn't have come off that bad boy to another random "wet". She gave that to her son.

So no American went without a kidney. Unless you wanna argue those of us with 2 healthy kidneys should give one away?
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It was his mothers kidney! She probably wouldn't have come off that bad boy to another random "wet". She gave that to her son.

So no American went without a kidney. Unless you wanna argue those of us with 2 healthy kidneys should give one away?
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The operation was provided as charity care by Loyola University Hospital. That charity care should have gone to an American.

As I pointed out in a previous post, Mexico has a Universal Healthcare System, they've had it since 2003, he could have gone back to his own damn country and received medical care there.
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Don't forget your ancestors were illegal immigrants too, you dicks.

However, they kill and took the native american's land like it was nothing, so chill the fuck out about illegal immigrants.

The best way i see is to help them become illegal, partly or timed at the very least and have them pay for taxes and officially join the american labor force.
For the once here, no use crying over spilled milk.

Oh and taking off some many whites and blacks leeches off of food stamps would help too.

Either way, illegal immigration is inevitable so get use to it.
 Quoting: Areym


The are steps to take to become a legal citizen.

Nonetheless, what about instead of "illegal" vs "taxpayer"... how about irresponsible vs. responsible?

My husband's grandfather had to pay monthly payments to the hospital for his heart attack, even though it was nearly a million dollars for a starflight (helicopter) trip.
Why isn't this guy paying monthly payments? That is what I want to know.
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Maybe the Mexicans will do the same thing to the white man that the white man did to us.

genocide.

Hopefully they are nice enough to kill 98% and leave reservations for that last 2%!
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how typical of your kind, the answer to anyone not willing to do what you want is a bullet.
I may have issues but as yet my index finger and grip are reasonably ok
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I'm not talking about a bullet. I said I would put you out of your misery.

What is your ailment? I would help you, no matter your color or nationality or religious beliefs for that matter.

We are all one. And lines drawn by man shouldn't determine if somebody deserves to live or die.
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In all honesty I dont seek help, give it to someone else who is both worthy and honestly entitled as a kinsman, not a sneakthief shoving their way to the head of the line and sending all others tumbling ass over teakettle.
Dying means nothing to me, in actuality I cant wait to get off of this rock for whatever comes next
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So you are fixing to check out and you have nothing better to do than worry about a Mexican getting a surgery in America?

I hope that you are being deceitful about that. And also pray for a peaceful passing.
 Quoting: andawg221


Im not fixing to do anything but do the best I can until my times up, in any respect I'm trying to not be a burden on anyone and am trying to be a respectful and positive force to the best of my ability in accordance with a belief in mutual respect for established boundries.

Just so you know, the concept of 'god' always comes with functional boundries and man has obvious need for recognition of functional boundries, so I dont see any problem with boundries which some maintain for themselves yet intrude on others for their gain.
it seems that world wide, the common element of what is considered 'evil' is the lack of respect for boundries of any sort.
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I'm not talking about a bullet. I said I would put you out of your misery.

What is your ailment? I would help you, no matter your color or nationality or religious beliefs for that matter.

We are all one. And lines drawn by man shouldn't determine if somebody deserves to live or die.
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In all honesty I dont seek help, give it to someone else who is both worthy and honestly entitled as a kinsman, not a sneakthief shoving their way to the head of the line and sending all others tumbling ass over teakettle.
Dying means nothing to me, in actuality I cant wait to get off of this rock for whatever comes next
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25390958


So you are fixing to check out and you have nothing better to do than worry about a Mexican getting a surgery in America?

I hope that you are being deceitful about that. And also pray for a peaceful passing.
 Quoting: andawg221


Im not fixing to do anything but do the best I can until my times up, in any respect I'm trying to not be a burden on anyone and am trying to be a respectful and positive force to the best of my ability in accordance with a belief in mutual respect for established boundries.

Just so you know, the concept of 'god' always comes with functional boundries and man has obvious need for recognition of functional boundries, so I dont see any problem with boundries which some maintain for themselves yet intrude on others for their gain.
it seems that world wide, the common element of what is considered 'evil' is the lack of respect for boundries of any sort.
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So hopefully by that statement you are just as pissed off about seal team 6 going to get bin laden?

Cause they did cross into another country that had nothing to do with it.

Again to put it simpler, America should mind its own business.

Not help "wets" with surgery (can't argue an American missed out on a mothers kidney) and should also stop invading and in general being the big bully to the world?

Is that what you mean when you argue so strongly against Americans performing surgery on Mexicans?
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The point of this, when free is given to one it should be given to everyone. Just the same when one has to pay everyone should have to pay!
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In all honesty I dont seek help, give it to someone else who is both worthy and honestly entitled as a kinsman, not a sneakthief shoving their way to the head of the line and sending all others tumbling ass over teakettle.
Dying means nothing to me, in actuality I cant wait to get off of this rock for whatever comes next
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25390958


So you are fixing to check out and you have nothing better to do than worry about a Mexican getting a surgery in America?

I hope that you are being deceitful about that. And also pray for a peaceful passing.
 Quoting: andawg221


Im not fixing to do anything but do the best I can until my times up, in any respect I'm trying to not be a burden on anyone and am trying to be a respectful and positive force to the best of my ability in accordance with a belief in mutual respect for established boundries.

Just so you know, the concept of 'god' always comes with functional boundries and man has obvious need for recognition of functional boundries, so I dont see any problem with boundries which some maintain for themselves yet intrude on others for their gain.
it seems that world wide, the common element of what is considered 'evil' is the lack of respect for boundries of any sort.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25390958


So hopefully by that statement you are just as pissed off about seal team 6 going to get bin laden?

Cause they did cross into another country that had nothing to do with it.

Again to put it simpler, America should mind its own business.

Not help "wets" with surgery (can't argue an American missed out on a mothers kidney) and should also stop invading and in general being the big bully to the world?

Is that what you mean when you argue so strongly against Americans performing surgery on Mexicans?
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ACTUALLY
I am against american forces securing americans in another country that americans are securing from the own inhabitants which are generating ALL the casualties upon the fools that are sent there.
I have no problem saying that the military mandate applies only to the us borders and us citizens choosing to go where there is expectation of safety, and in the us troops pursuit of or accepting orders for maintaining other nations integrity they become de facto traitors to the citizens that pay them or cheap ass hitman for the ptb.

You see, you need to create a comprehesive approach, not a patchwork willey nilley approach based on emotion because you have no principle for guidance, and the principle is that for people with a national integrity and identification they must for any fairness become responsible for creating an environment of caring for their family that they lay claims to, and not the property of those families they themselves reject for any purposes other than exploitation.
THIS DOESNT STOP AT A FREE SURGERY, this goes on for free everything for the patient and his family, while america borrows money from foreign bankers and incurs debt at their own peril

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