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Illegal Gets FREE KIDNEY .....yep, tax dollars at work

 
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You put money over life? Sad.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Yea?

I would say that putting a law abiding citizen, a neighbor, a friend, or a family members life over the life of a Border Jumping Criminal with total disregard for law is the issue here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29411606


How stupid is it when being born in a certain spot on the planet and moving to another makes you a criminal. This is not an argument against you, I'm just pointing out the great fallacy that is the "civilized world".

We can learn a lesson from third world countries and how they treat their illegals. Not like criminals. Maybe thats why our state is decadence and third world countries are not facing fiscal cliffs and such.

Have you noticed the direct correlation of treatment of illegals in this country and the state of the economy. the worse we treat them the worse our economy gets. Go ahead and back test history. This holds true since the 1700's immigrants.
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Nice to save people, but NOT on our dime!
How much would WE have to pay?

[link to www.chicagotribune.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14091728


Why not read the articles you post? Taxpayers did not pay for anything.

"Although Loyola agreed to cover the costs of the transplant, Mariscal will have to pay for the medicine. He applied for a grant through the Simon Bolivar Foundation, a medical nonprofit, that would help cover his first year of anti-rejection pills. But without health insurance, he expects he'll have to pay for most of his medication."

But keep on with your bitter, racist, hatred, filth. Fits in well here.

hf


ahole
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24433809


ahhh, the free lunch believer

you may think it's free, and you may think it only costs someone a penny, but it is theft nevertheless.

In a land where food was scarce and clothing and footwear were dear, and countless beggers asked for anything, somehow jesus and the apostles were not naked, and they were not starving.
He may have said give them not only one coat, but two, but nobody went about israel buck nekkid and starving.

Only and idiot thinks that the process of pulling a kidney and providing a lifetime of care is free. At best, it takes it from someone who played by the rules, and condemns THEM to death. Someone would have died because of the choices made, it's just their picture isnt shown and their name is not known
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You put money over life? Sad.
"
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Yea?

I would say that putting a law abiding citizen, a neighbor, a friend, or a family members life over the life of a Border Jumping Criminal with total disregard for law is the issue here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29411606


How stupid is it when being born in a certain spot on the planet and moving to another makes you a criminal. This is not an argument against you, I'm just pointing out the great fallacy that is the "civilized world".

We can learn a lesson from third world countries and how they treat their illegals. Not like criminals. Maybe thats why our state is decadence and third world countries are not facing fiscal cliffs and such.

Have you noticed the direct correlation of treatment of illegals in this country and the state of the economy. the worse we treat them the worse our economy gets. Go ahead and back test history. This holds true since the 1700's immigrants.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29098642


I hope you at least have the integrity to take the locks and doors off your home and car before you give them all away to the poor.
and dont forget to give away your xbox as well, remember, if you have anything that someone doesnt, you must give them that. Maybe, if your nioe, they may let you visit once in a while and use some of your former stuff
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in truth there should be a line forming by the officially sanctioned 'judeochristians' to donate their organs because there are any number of peop[le in the world dying daily.

tis the season to give, so Have a happy vivisection!!
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Nice to save people, but NOT on our dime!
How much would WE have to pay?

[link to www.chicagotribune.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14091728


Why not read the articles you post? Taxpayers did not pay for anything.

"Although Loyola agreed to cover the costs of the transplant, Mariscal will have to pay for the medicine. He applied for a grant through the Simon Bolivar Foundation, a medical nonprofit, that would help cover his first year of anti-rejection pills. But without health insurance, he expects he'll have to pay for most of his medication."

But keep on with your bitter, racist, hatred, filth. Fits in well here.

hf


ahole
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24433809


ahhh, the free lunch believer

you may think it's free, and you may think it only costs someone a penny, but it is theft nevertheless.

In a land where food was scarce and clothing and footwear were dear, and countless beggers asked for anything, somehow jesus and the apostles were not naked, and they were not starving.
He may have said give them not only one coat, but two, but nobody went about israel buck nekkid and starving.

Only and idiot thinks that the process of pulling a kidney and providing a lifetime of care is free. At best, it takes it from someone who played by the rules, and condemns THEM to death. Someone would have died because of the choices made, it's just their picture isnt shown and their name is not known
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25390958


You gotta understand the process though.

#1 if it has any chance of your body not rejecting it.
#2 was there an "American" in the area that was a match? (Probably not)
#3 if there was an American in the area and it was a match, was it too late already?

Probably more variables, but that gives you an idea.

It's not like they can harvest a kidney and wait a few days to fly a chosen American in from states away.
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Damn this shit. How many Americans who have worked hard all their lives to pay taxes are on organ donor lists praying for a kidney, etc. at huge cost. This asshole walks over the border and takes one for free. Damn this illegal and damn the enablers who allowed this. A decent American citizen who contributes to society could have needed that kidney to live.
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This is so true. I had to have a heart procedure and the hospital didn't hesitate to present me with a $50K bill. I can't even imagine the cost of an actual traansplant.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy
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Morons.

What would you have the doctors do? Let him die?!

Racist dogs!
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When did "Illegal Alien" become a Race?
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One could argue borders are man made. And Christ sees only people, not the invisible lines used to separate people.

I wish I was Mexican and my kidney was shot. Then I could just hop a fence and get a new one. COME ON!
""

I guess you could assume that Mountain Ranges, Rivers, Oceans, and Continents are "God Made"?

Then why have the Mixicans, (Mexicans) chosen to cross the division (Made by God), and launch a poisonous, toxic attack on the genetic integrity of the existing people of Central America?

Because that is what toxic, poisonous criminals do.

Injection of their "DNA Specific Brand", injection of their "Poison" into the creature and consume it from the inside out?

Bend over and get injected Moran.
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finally the kkk comes out
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Damn this shit. How many Americans who have worked hard all their lives to pay taxes are on organ donor lists praying for a kidney, etc. at huge cost. This asshole walks over the border and takes one for free. Damn this illegal and damn the enablers who allowed this. A decent American citizen who contributes to society could have needed that kidney to live.
battleflag
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This is so true. I had to have a heart procedure and the hospital didn't hesitate to present me with a $50K bill. I can't even imagine the cost of an actual traansplant.
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Was there a choice between giving you the heart procedure or an illegal?
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Matthew 23:24 "You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel"
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IDIOT, what passage allows you to force charity from the unwilling at the point of a gun?

what mr gummint approved new testament do you read?

you may know words but you dont understand the basic principles of not stealing first to then claim it was for charity.
The point is to learn to be charitable directly as an individual, not passively via the state.
Point out any passage where jesus said give to the state and the bureaucracy and they and state will decide.
had he done that they never would have nailed him up in the first place, stupid
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Have a nice day.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


I see you cant even swallow your own camel, buh bye...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25390958


No sweetheart, it's just a waste of time and energy to continue to try and share truth and wisdom with you because you're closed to it completely.

If you really want to live by the letter of the law, then give back your property to the american indians because they were here first. We stole it from them, so we are the illegals from a moral point of view. Refusing to do so means you are a hypocrite because you claim to be all about what's "right" regarding the laws of the land.

You won't accept that tho because you want to feel justified in your hate of your fellow human being. You want to feel entitled and superior because you were born on the other side of the line.

I shared with you light, but you want the darkness.

Continue on then......God will teach you His own way that you don't own this land. You are lost in your own ignorance. God owns everything, you are but a speck of sand on the landscape that is earth, you own nothing.

Soften your heart twords your fellow man, don't be stiff necked and hard hearted or maybe you will be on the receiving end someday, the other side of the fence.

I'm done, have a beautiful day. I'll leave you with Job Chapter 38, I hope you will take the time to read it. Peace.



Job Chapter 38

The Lord Speaks

Then the Lord spoke to Job out of the storm. He said:

“Who is this that obscures my plans
with words without knowledge?
Brace yourself like a man;
I will question you,
and you shall answer me.

“Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation?
Tell me, if you understand.
Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know!
Who stretched a measuring line across it?
On what were its footings set,
or who laid its cornerstone—
while the morning stars sang together
and all the angels[a] shouted for joy?

“Who shut up the sea behind doors
when it burst forth from the womb,
when I made the clouds its garment
and wrapped it in thick darkness,
when I fixed limits for it
and set its doors and bars in place,
when I said, ‘This far you may come and no farther;
here is where your proud waves halt’?

“Have you ever given orders to the morning,
or shown the dawn its place,
that it might take the earth by the edges
and shake the wicked out of it?
The earth takes shape like clay under a seal;
its features stand out like those of a garment.
The wicked are denied their light,
and their upraised arm is broken.

“Have you journeyed to the springs of the sea
or walked in the recesses of the deep?
Have the gates of death been shown to you?
Have you seen the gates of the deepest darkness?
Have you comprehended the vast expanses of the earth?
Tell me, if you know all this.

“What is the way to the abode of light?
And where does darkness reside?
Can you take them to their places?
Do you know the paths to their dwellings?
Surely you know, for you were already born!
You have lived so many years!

“Have you entered the storehouses of the snow
or seen the storehouses of the hail,
which I reserve for times of trouble,
for days of war and battle?
What is the way to the place where the lightning is dispersed,
or the place where the east winds are scattered over the earth?
Who cuts a channel for the torrents of rain,
and a path for the thunderstorm,
to water a land where no one lives,
an uninhabited desert,
to satisfy a desolate wasteland
and make it sprout with grass?
Does the rain have a father?
Who fathers the drops of dew?
From whose womb comes the ice?
Who gives birth to the frost from the heavens
when the waters become hard as stone,
when the surface of the deep is frozen?

“Can you bind the chains of the Pleiades?
Can you loosen Orion’s belt?
Can you bring forth the constellations in their seasons[c]
or lead out the Bear[d] with its cubs?
Do you know the laws of the heavens?
Can you set up God’s[e] dominion over the earth?

“Can you raise your voice to the clouds
and cover yourself with a flood of water?
Do you send the lightning bolts on their way?
Do they report to you, ‘Here we are’?
Who gives the ibis wisdom[f]
or gives the rooster understanding?[g]
Who has the wisdom to count the clouds?
Who can tip over the water jars of the heavens
when the dust becomes hard
and the clods of earth stick together?

“Do you hunt the prey for the lioness
and satisfy the hunger of the lions
when they crouch in their dens
or lie in wait in a thicket?
Who provides food for the raven
when its young cry out to God
and wander about for lack of food?
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The mexicans had better start leaving in droves while they still have the chance.......
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One could argue borders are man made. And Christ sees only people, not the invisible lines used to separate people.

I wish I was Mexican and my kidney was shot. Then I could just hop a fence and get a new one. COME ON!
""

I guess you could assume that Mountain Ranges, Rivers, Oceans, and Continents are "God Made"?

Then why have the Mixicans, (Mexicans) chosen to cross the division (Made by God), and launch a poisonous, toxic attack on the genetic integrity of the existing people of Central America?

Because that is what toxic, poisonous criminals do.

Injection of their "DNA Specific Brand", injection of their "Poison" into the creature and consume it from the inside out?

Bend over and get injected Moran.
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finally the kkk comes out
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He forgot a few WHITE POWERS!
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As fucked up as Amerika is, it is a compassionate nation.
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Nice to save people, but NOT on our dime!
How much would WE have to pay?

[link to www.chicagotribune.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14091728


Why not read the articles you post? Taxpayers did not pay for anything.

"Although Loyola agreed to cover the costs of the transplant, Mariscal will have to pay for the medicine. He applied for a grant through the Simon Bolivar Foundation, a medical nonprofit, that would help cover his first year of anti-rejection pills. But without health insurance, he expects he'll have to pay for most of his medication."

But keep on with your bitter, racist, hatred, filth. Fits in well here.

hf


ahole
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24433809


ahhh, the free lunch believer

you may think it's free, and you may think it only costs someone a penny, but it is theft nevertheless.

In a land where food was scarce and clothing and footwear were dear, and countless beggers asked for anything, somehow jesus and the apostles were not naked, and they were not starving.
He may have said give them not only one coat, but two, but nobody went about israel buck nekkid and starving.

Only and idiot thinks that the process of pulling a kidney and providing a lifetime of care is free. At best, it takes it from someone who played by the rules, and condemns THEM to death. Someone would have died because of the choices made, it's just their picture isnt shown and their name is not known
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25390958


You gotta understand the process though.

#1 if it has any chance of your body not rejecting it.
#2 was there an "American" in the area that was a match? (Probably not)
#3 if there was an American in the area and it was a match, was it too late already?

Probably more variables, but that gives you an idea.

It's not like they can harvest a kidney and wait a few days to fly a chosen American in from states away.
 Quoting: andawg221


I understand the process better than you.
MANY THOUSANDS of americans die yearly waiting for organs.
matching tissue type is not as critical as before, tissue matching is becoming almost incidental.
there are any number of organizations that fly organs at short notice coast to coast, even internationally.
If a wet can crawl in and find an organ, likely there is an american citizen within a mile that needs one too
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love the oozing christian attitude in the responses so far...classy
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If you can't see this illegal is a THIEF then you are hopelessly blind to reality.

Last Edited by Project_Deimos on 12/09/2012 11:35 AM
"There are known knowns. There are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns. That is to say, we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns, the ones we don't know we don't know."
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Why not read the articles you post? Taxpayers did not pay for anything.

"Although Loyola agreed to cover the costs of the transplant, Mariscal will have to pay for the medicine. He applied for a grant through the Simon Bolivar Foundation, a medical nonprofit, that would help cover his first year of anti-rejection pills. But without health insurance, he expects he'll have to pay for most of his medication."

But keep on with your bitter, racist, hatred, filth. Fits in well here.

hf


ahole
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24433809


ahhh, the free lunch believer

you may think it's free, and you may think it only costs someone a penny, but it is theft nevertheless.

In a land where food was scarce and clothing and footwear were dear, and countless beggers asked for anything, somehow jesus and the apostles were not naked, and they were not starving.
He may have said give them not only one coat, but two, but nobody went about israel buck nekkid and starving.

Only and idiot thinks that the process of pulling a kidney and providing a lifetime of care is free. At best, it takes it from someone who played by the rules, and condemns THEM to death. Someone would have died because of the choices made, it's just their picture isnt shown and their name is not known
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25390958


You gotta understand the process though.

#1 if it has any chance of your body not rejecting it.
#2 was there an "American" in the area that was a match? (Probably not)
#3 if there was an American in the area and it was a match, was it too late already?

Probably more variables, but that gives you an idea.

It's not like they can harvest a kidney and wait a few days to fly a chosen American in from states away.
 Quoting: andawg221


I understand the process better than you.
MANY THOUSANDS of americans die yearly waiting for organs.
matching tissue type is not as critical as before, tissue matching is becoming almost incidental.
there are any number of organizations that fly organs at short notice coast to coast, even internationally.
If a wet can crawl in and find an organ, likely there is an american citizen within a mile that needs one too
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25390958


Well if you understand it better than me, I guess we are done here.

Just an issue of racism I guess.

Like Lisa said, give us natives our land back. And perhaps go back to Europe or wherever "your land" is.
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love the oozing christian attitude in the responses so far...classy
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If you can't see this illegal is a THIEF then you are hopelessly blind to reality.
 Quoting: Project_Deimos


what the 'judeochristians' try to do is convert christianity which was taught as introspective, personal and essentially private and respectful of others with other beliefs into a hebroid theocracy which forces believers and nonbelievers alike to sacrifice their property and liberty to the goals and methods of a theocracy.

Theres a significant difference between having rules for fainess and function and having rules which benefita only the theocratic class and it's costituency
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And? Healthcare is a human right, not a privilege. You haters are very selfish. One star for you.
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Alright, then get in line to pay hundreds of thousands of $ for college and then medical school. Now, go out and SERVE, asshole!
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ahhh, the free lunch believer

you may think it's free, and you may think it only costs someone a penny, but it is theft nevertheless.

In a land where food was scarce and clothing and footwear were dear, and countless beggers asked for anything, somehow jesus and the apostles were not naked, and they were not starving.
He may have said give them not only one coat, but two, but nobody went about israel buck nekkid and starving.

Only and idiot thinks that the process of pulling a kidney and providing a lifetime of care is free. At best, it takes it from someone who played by the rules, and condemns THEM to death. Someone would have died because of the choices made, it's just their picture isnt shown and their name is not known
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25390958


You gotta understand the process though.

#1 if it has any chance of your body not rejecting it.
#2 was there an "American" in the area that was a match? (Probably not)
#3 if there was an American in the area and it was a match, was it too late already?

Probably more variables, but that gives you an idea.

It's not like they can harvest a kidney and wait a few days to fly a chosen American in from states away.
 Quoting: andawg221


I understand the process better than you.
MANY THOUSANDS of americans die yearly waiting for organs.
matching tissue type is not as critical as before, tissue matching is becoming almost incidental.
there are any number of organizations that fly organs at short notice coast to coast, even internationally.
If a wet can crawl in and find an organ, likely there is an american citizen within a mile that needs one too
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25390958


Well if you understand it better than me, I guess we are done here.

Just an issue of racism I guess.

Like Lisa said, give us natives our land back. And perhaps go back to Europe or wherever "your land" is.
 Quoting: andawg221


Ahhhh, the LaRaza race card.
GFYS, sideways
andawg221

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The thing is also his mother was the donor. So it didn't take a kidney from an American. It took a Mexican mothers kidney and gave it to her son that was also Mexican.

Please spin that into racism!

Or me playing a race card.

Last Edited by andawg221 on 12/09/2012 11:48 AM
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IDIOT, what passage allows you to force charity from the unwilling at the point of a gun?

what mr gummint approved new testament do you read?

you may know words but you dont understand the basic principles of not stealing first to then claim it was for charity.
The point is to learn to be charitable directly as an individual, not passively via the state.
Point out any passage where jesus said give to the state and the bureaucracy and they and state will decide.
had he done that they never would have nailed him up in the first place, stupid
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25390958


Have a nice day.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


I see you cant even swallow your own camel, buh bye...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25390958


No sweetheart, it's just a waste of time and energy to continue to try and share truth and wisdom with you because you're closed to it completely.

If you really want to live by the letter of the law, then give back your property to the american indians because they were here first. We stole it from them, so we are the illegals from a moral point of view. Refusing to do so means you are a hypocrite because you claim to be all about what's "right" regarding the laws of the land.

You won't accept that tho because you want to feel justified in your hate of your fellow human being. You want to feel entitled and superior because you were born on the other side of the line.

I shared with you light, but you want the darkness.

Continue on then......God will teach you His own way that you don't own this land. You are lost in your own ignorance. God owns everything, you are but a speck of sand on the landscape that is earth, you own nothing.

Soften your heart twords your fellow man, don't be stiff necked and hard hearted or maybe you will be on the receiving end someday, the other side of the fence.

I'm done, have a beautiful day. I'll leave you with Job Chapter 38, I hope you will take the time to read it. Peace.



Job Chapter 38

The Lord Speaks

Then the Lord spoke to Job out of the storm. He said:

“Who is this that obscures my plans
with words without knowledge?
Brace yourself like a man;
I will question you,
and you shall answer me.

“Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation?
Tell me, if you understand.
Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know!
Who stretched a measuring line across it?
On what were its footings set,
or who laid its cornerstone—
while the morning stars sang together
and all the angels[a] shouted for joy?

“Who shut up the sea behind doors
when it burst forth from the womb,
when I made the clouds its garment
and wrapped it in thick darkness,
when I fixed limits for it
and set its doors and bars in place,
when I said, ‘This far you may come and no farther;
here is where your proud waves halt’?

“Have you ever given orders to the morning,
or shown the dawn its place,
that it might take the earth by the edges
and shake the wicked out of it?
The earth takes shape like clay under a seal;
its features stand out like those of a garment.
The wicked are denied their light,
and their upraised arm is broken.

“Have you journeyed to the springs of the sea
or walked in the recesses of the deep?
Have the gates of death been shown to you?
Have you seen the gates of the deepest darkness?
Have you comprehended the vast expanses of the earth?
Tell me, if you know all this.

“What is the way to the abode of light?
And where does darkness reside?
Can you take them to their places?
Do you know the paths to their dwellings?
Surely you know, for you were already born!
You have lived so many years!

“Have you entered the storehouses of the snow
or seen the storehouses of the hail,
which I reserve for times of trouble,
for days of war and battle?
What is the way to the place where the lightning is dispersed,
or the place where the east winds are scattered over the earth?
Who cuts a channel for the torrents of rain,
and a path for the thunderstorm,
to water a land where no one lives,
an uninhabited desert,
to satisfy a desolate wasteland
and make it sprout with grass?
Does the rain have a father?
Who fathers the drops of dew?
From whose womb comes the ice?
Who gives birth to the frost from the heavens
when the waters become hard as stone,
when the surface of the deep is frozen?

“Can you bind the chains of the Pleiades?
Can you loosen Orion’s belt?
Can you bring forth the constellations in their seasons[c]
or lead out the Bear[d] with its cubs?
Do you know the laws of the heavens?
Can you set up God’s[e] dominion over the earth?

“Can you raise your voice to the clouds
and cover yourself with a flood of water?
Do you send the lightning bolts on their way?
Do they report to you, ‘Here we are’?
Who gives the ibis wisdom[f]
or gives the rooster understanding?[g]
Who has the wisdom to count the clouds?
Who can tip over the water jars of the heavens
when the dust becomes hard
and the clods of earth stick together?

“Do you hunt the prey for the lioness
and satisfy the hunger of the lions
when they crouch in their dens
or lie in wait in a thicket?
Who provides food for the raven
when its young cry out to God
and wander about for lack of food?
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Hmmmm the self righteous can copy and paste. Keep worshipping your idol Israel.
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ahhh, the free lunch believer

you may think it's free, and you may think it only costs someone a penny, but it is theft nevertheless.

In a land where food was scarce and clothing and footwear were dear, and countless beggers asked for anything, somehow jesus and the apostles were not naked, and they were not starving.
He may have said give them not only one coat, but two, but nobody went about israel buck nekkid and starving.

Only and idiot thinks that the process of pulling a kidney and providing a lifetime of care is free. At best, it takes it from someone who played by the rules, and condemns THEM to death. Someone would have died because of the choices made, it's just their picture isnt shown and their name is not known
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You gotta understand the process though.

#1 if it has any chance of your body not rejecting it.
#2 was there an "American" in the area that was a match? (Probably not)
#3 if there was an American in the area and it was a match, was it too late already?

Probably more variables, but that gives you an idea.

It's not like they can harvest a kidney and wait a few days to fly a chosen American in from states away.
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I understand the process better than you.
MANY THOUSANDS of americans die yearly waiting for organs.
matching tissue type is not as critical as before, tissue matching is becoming almost incidental.
there are any number of organizations that fly organs at short notice coast to coast, even internationally.
If a wet can crawl in and find an organ, likely there is an american citizen within a mile that needs one too
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Well if you understand it better than me, I guess we are done here.

Just an issue of racism I guess.

Like Lisa said, give us natives our land back. And perhaps go back to Europe or wherever "your land" is.
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lol you're not native to this land. no one really is.
iamwith
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Nice to save people, but NOT on our dime!
How much would WE have to pay?

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OP can you read?

Loyola agreed to cover the costs of the transplant
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it seems that the mexicans are de rayyycissses, because they wont take care of mehicans, so, when do the demonstrations start, LaRaza?
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Nice to save people, but NOT on our dime!
How much would WE have to pay?

[link to www.chicagotribune.com]
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OP can you read?

Loyola agreed to cover the costs of the transplant
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nobody plays for free with mr gummin, if anything ITS GONNA BE A TAX WRITEOFF meaning the slack gets put on the public

the facility takes public money so it has a public responsibility to serve those WHO PAID FOR IT
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Damn this shit. How many Americans who have worked hard all their lives to pay taxes are on organ donor lists praying for a kidney, etc. at huge cost. This asshole walks over the border and takes one for free. Damn this illegal and damn the enablers who allowed this. A decent American citizen who contributes to society could have needed that kidney to live.
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^^^ this ^^^ gopo

those enablers are called democraps.
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You gotta understand the process though.

#1 if it has any chance of your body not rejecting it.
#2 was there an "American" in the area that was a match? (Probably not)
#3 if there was an American in the area and it was a match, was it too late already?

Probably more variables, but that gives you an idea.

It's not like they can harvest a kidney and wait a few days to fly a chosen American in from states away.
 Quoting: andawg221


I understand the process better than you.
MANY THOUSANDS of americans die yearly waiting for organs.
matching tissue type is not as critical as before, tissue matching is becoming almost incidental.
there are any number of organizations that fly organs at short notice coast to coast, even internationally.
If a wet can crawl in and find an organ, likely there is an american citizen within a mile that needs one too
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25390958


Well if you understand it better than me, I guess we are done here.

Just an issue of racism I guess.

Like Lisa said, give us natives our land back. And perhaps go back to Europe or wherever "your land" is.
 Quoting: andawg221


lol you're not native to this land. no one really is.
iamwith
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My people go back at least before the white man showed up. So how am I not native to this land?
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"Give me your poor, your tired, your renal failed, yearning to live for free stuff while complaining they are not treated fairly."
Few will listen,
Of the few who listen, fewer still will understand,
Understanding does not mean believe,
Of the handful who believe, most may not know what to do,
Those who even know, how many will actually do ?
And the rare ones who have done it.......
Need not listen to you anymore.
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the way the narcotraficantes are gunning down their countryment in mexico, you'd think kidneys would be available on every streetcorner, but no, come to the land of the generous gringo, and bring your friends too...
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My brother died two years ago waiting for a kidney...I couldn't give him mine because I have a history of melanoma.

verysad
..."The soul is dyed the color of its thoughts. Think only on those things that are in line with your principles and can bear the light of day. The content of your character is your choice. Day by day, what you choose, what you think, and what you do is who you become. Your integrity is your destiny ... it is the light that guides your way."
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