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MESSIAH WAS RESURRECTED ON THE SHABBAT OF HIS REST, NOT ON SUNDAY!

 
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Thank you again you few disciples who contributed to making this information avaialble to the young believers.It is my desire that the prideful will look at these facts and really humble themselves before the most high God Eh'Yeh

There is that belief that messiah was resurrected on a Sunday morning and it is not biblical or factual.It will be good to see fellow believers gettin together to resolve this myth though some hold it as factual.
YYTYY
I will love someone to show me how you get three days and three nights from good friday evening to sunday morning

Based on this myth a new doctrine was introduced which I will comment on after your views and present more scriptural eveidencethat refutes this opinion


NOTES
This is my belief and this is true and can be found in the scriptures!
**Messiah is the lord of the sabbath and in him we come into his rest.When he was on the cross just like his father created the world and rested on the sabbath and proclaimed it holy so did messiah rest of his labour on the hallowed day and aslo said it is finished!**.



I will give a starting point with two passages of scripture and we can work from there."*We see messiah is cut off in the middle of a prophetic week*"

The book of Daniel chapter 9

IOYU
Then shall the street walls be buyled agayne Ixij. wekes,
but with harde troublous tyme. After these
Ixij. wekes, shall Christ be slayne,

5 they shall haue no pleasure in him. Then shall there
come a people with the prynce, and destroye
the cite and the sanctuary : and his ende shall come as the water flood. But the desolacion shall continue till the ende of the battle.

He shall make a stronge bonde with many,
for the space of a weke : and when the weke is half gone, he shal put downe the slayne and meatoffringe
.

And in the temple there shall be an abhominable desolacion, till it haue destroyed all. And it is concluded, and this waistinge shall continue vnto the ende.


Here we have confirmation of 3 days and 3 nights in the grave

Jonah 1:17 Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.

jtyj

o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-

Matthew 12:38 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.

39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas [NKJV: Jonah]:

40 For as Jonas [NKJV: Jonah] was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth

-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o




LET US START THIS JOURNEY TOGETHER!

To understand this we need to understand the culture of the hebrews of that time, so I will explian a couple things as we go forward into the word.
Let us also be mindful in the middle east in the messiah time and from creation the day started from the setting of the sun in the evening and ends at the setting of the sun the following evening.

rtty
THE EVENING

iuoio
THE MORNING

Reference:The Book of Genesis chapter 1
:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.



**MOVING ON LET US LOOK AT SOME MORE FACTS GATHERED FROM ANOTHER BROTHER ON THE THREAD** "BUDDAROLL" THANK YOU!

clappa

Messiah died @ 3pm on Wednesday but had to be entombed before sundown because Thursday was the the High Day Sabbath of Passover. So... Approx 6pm


In order to be 3 days and 3 nights (no it is not a Hebrewism, this is a strict 72 hrs) Messiah would have had to have risen in that 3 hr period on Saturday, the weekly Sabbath.

It was not discovered until just before Dawn on Sunday that He had risen, but that does not mean that He rose at Dawn on Sunday.


Since Saturday was the Sabbath and there were travel restrictions, I do not think (but I am not sure) that they would have been able to go to the tomb on Saturday with the oils and herbs.


-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O--O-O-O-O-O--O

**EXACTLY SO! AND I AGREE WITH THIS FINDING ABOVE 100% AND WE WILL JUSTIFY THIS BELOW**!


LOOK HERE IS WHAT THROWS OF PEOPLE AND IT WAS BY DESIGN!

Luke chapter 23
54 And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on.

55 And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid.

56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment.

NOTES
:This paticular sabbath was the holy convocation on the day of passover.It is a known law that if the high holy day fell on a week day.It is to be declared a sabbath


YY6UUU


NOTES:Now look what king james and the other bibles did to confuse the masses.They did not specify the three days after which will take us unto the weekly Shabbat.They jumped right into the first day sunday giving the impression it was a weekly sabbath that was approaching as I showed in chapter 23.

Also we have another account in the book of Matthew Chapter 28 which Identifies the real time of the sabbath as it was drawing toward the first day.

Like I explained about creation the new day starts from evening sunset then the morning, this account is more realistic



account #1
Matthew Chapter 28
28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.


account #2
Luke chapter 24
1 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.

2 And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre.

3And they entered in, and found not the body of the Lord Jesus.

yjghfTHANK EH'YEH FOR THE WORD!


To verify your answer if you check back 3 days and 3 nights from sunday morning. You will have messiah being crucified thursday morning early before sunrise.That is erroneous
you are very correct





NOTES:Many of you will ask, why will the church lie to us? The answer is Rome is not your friend wake up! They took counsel together with their bloodline edomites pharasees seeds and killed your messiah.

They killed and destroyed your peoples making them slaves in the four corners of the earth.They gave you their pagan worship centers and false doctrines and you recieve it gladfully and in the mean time rebelling against your creator in your disloyal and adulterated false relationship.


O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-


LET US LOOK AT MOTIVES AND THE NUMBER ONE THING WAS TO INSTITUTE THE SUNDAY WORSHIP.USING THE MESSIAH'S CRUCIFIXION WAS THE IDEAL CATALYST TO WIN THE HEARTS OF THE SIMPLEMINDED.

cfgjjhj



Origins of Good Friday. Did you ever wonder why Good Friday is recognized as the day Jesus died and Sunday as the day he arose but yet had trouble explaining how he could thus be buried for three days and three nights? (Matthew 12:40; Matthew 27:63; Mark 8:31; Mark 9:31; Mark 10:34)

*The answer is simple: He didn't actually die on "Good Friday." The Chaldeans offered cakes to Ishtar on the equivalent of the day we know as Good Friday.*

*And Sun Day Easter is in place to commemorate the resurrection of the sun god Tammuz*
nbvbvc

When the established church wanted to appease the paganistic people in order to "convert" them to Christianity, they moved the dates accordingly. Jesus actually died on the day of Preparation of Passover Week, which that year occurred on Wednesday (John 19:14, 31-42). Thursday was the Sabbath of the Passover. Friday, Christ was still in the tomb. Saturday was the "regular" Sabbath.

Jesus arose just before the Saturday Sabbath was concluded, which was jsut before the first day of the week commenced at sunset. For further clarification of the days concerning Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection, see Matthew 27:50-28:7; Mark 15:25-16:6; Luke 23:44-24:8; John 19:14-20:17.

Who celebrates Easter? Pagans, who base their celebrations (including Halloween) on the phases of the moon, celebrate Easter. Christians, however, are clearly forbidden from observing this pagan celebration (Deuteronomy 12:30-31; Luke 4:8; 1 Corinthians 10:20-22; Ephesians 5:11).

There is a good reason why the early church never spoke of Easter and why there is absolutely no indication of the observance of the Easter festival in the New Testament.

(The only exception is a mistranslation in the King James version of Acts 12:4, where it gives the word "Easter" instead of the correction translation "Passover.") It was not an oversight on God's part; Christians simply are not to celebrate Easter, a pagan festival.

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 12/09/2012 10:34 AM
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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you guys need to get your stories straight.

one of y'all says jews don't recognize jc.
another says jc makes him sick, but then goes on to say that jc fogives him.
you say he's a saturday messiah.

wtf?

maybe all the jewish preachers on glp should get together and figure out wtf they believe before they preach?
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and....

why do the glp jews talk about jc so much?
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He rested on shabbath. Resurrected the 8th day early. IMO
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He rested on shabbath. Resurrected the 8th day early. IMO
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Sorry don't think so
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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He rested on shabbath. Resurrected the 8th day early. IMO
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Sorry don't think so
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


My view:

the preperation day
the Passover
the day after Passover, early morning.

After two days he will revive us; on the third day he will restore us, that we may live in his presence. Hosea 6:2
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He rested on shabbath. Resurrected the 8th day early. IMO
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Sorry don't think so
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


My view:

the preperation day
the Passover
the day after Passover, early morning.

After two days he will revive us; on the third day he will restore us, that we may live in his presence. Hosea 6:2
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


Yes I agree with hosea but messiah was resurrected on shabbath as the bible says , it was the dawning of the shabbat when the angel told them that he was already risen.

Hosea is prohecying the same thing here but this is also about the childen of Israel will awaken in that time after the two thousand years of christ ressurrection.We are in that time and it will be cut short for the elect sake
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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3 days 3 nights.

Wednesday sundown to Saturday sundown.

Christians love to ignore the truth.
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He rested on shabbath. Resurrected the 8th day early. IMO
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975

Sorry don't think so
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


My view:

the preperation day
the Passover
the day after Passover, early morning.

After two days he will revive us; on the third day he will restore us, that we may live in his presence. Hosea 6:2
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


Yes I agree with hosea but messiah was resurrected on shabbath as the bible says , it was the dawning of the shabbat when the angel told them that he was already risen.

Hosea is prohecying the same thing here but this is also about the childen of Israel will awaken in that time after the two thousand years of christ ressurrection.We are in that time and it will be cut short for the elect sake
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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the bible says , it was the dawning of the shabbat when the angel told them that he was already risen.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulcher Luke 24
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the bible says , it was the dawning of the shabbat when the angel told them that he was already risen.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulcher Luke 24
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


we not getting anywhere so one day the understanding will come
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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the bible says , it was the dawning of the shabbat when the angel told them that he was already risen.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulcher Luke 24
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we not getting anywhere so one day the understanding will come
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AMEN!

Well that just destroyed easter.

Let's tear up that sacred cow called christmas!
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AMEN!

Well that just destroyed easter.

Let's tear up that sacred cow called christmas!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5786799


Yes, Easter is for Tammuz... Ishtar the Babylonian Goddess decreed that all followers eat ham at Easter (Ishtarte) to remember her lover Tammuz who was killed by a wild boar..
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AMEN!

Well that just destroyed easter.

Let's tear up that sacred cow called christmas!
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yep easter so happened fell around the same season of the passover. That is why sometimes passover will be around the same time as the easter celebration.Reason passover is observed by the sighting of the new moon which was commanded by our heavenly father.

Easter sunday is the solstice season recocgnition sun worship
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Well that just destroyed easter.

Let's tear up that sacred cow called christmas!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5786799


Yes, Easter is for Tammuz... Ishtar the Babylonian Goddess decreed that all followers eat ham at Easter (Ishtarte) to remember her lover Tammuz who was killed by a wild boar..
 Quoting: APOLLYON ELNATHAN


Yep.. the word "Easter" was injected in the bible: Acts 12:4.. same with a few other words (including Jehovah)
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Thank you again you few disciples who contributed to making this information avaialble to the young believers.It is my desire that the prideful will look at these facts and really humble themselves before the most high God Eh'Yeh

There is that belief that messiah was resurrected on a Sunday morning and it is not biblical or factual.It will be good to see fellow believers gettin together to resolve this myth though some hold it as factual.
:YYTYY:
I will love someone to show me how you get three days and three nights from good friday evening to sunday morning

Based on this myth a new doctrine was introduced which I will comment on after your views and present more scriptural eveidencethat refutes this opinion


:NOTES:
This is my belief and this is true and can be found in the scriptures!
**Messiah is the lord of the sabbath and in him we come into his rest.When he was on the cross just like his father created the world and rested on the sabbath and proclaimed it holy so did messiah rest of his labour on the hallowed day and aslo said it is finished!**.



I will give a starting point with two passages of scripture and we can work from there."*We see messiah is cut off in the middle of a prophetic week*"

The book of Daniel chapter 9

:IOYU:
Then shall the street walls be buyled agayne Ixij. wekes,
but with harde troublous tyme. After these
Ixij. wekes, shall Christ be slayne,

5 they shall haue no pleasure in him. Then shall there
come a people with the prynce, and destroye
the cite and the sanctuary : and his ende shall come as the water flood. But the desolacion shall continue till the ende of the battle.

He shall make a stronge bonde with many,
for the space of a weke : and when the weke is half gone, he shal put downe the slayne and meatoffringe
.

And in the temple there shall be an abhominable desolacion, till it haue destroyed all. And it is concluded, and this waistinge shall continue vnto the ende.


Here we have confirmation of 3 days and 3 nights in the grave

Jonah 1:17 Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.

:jtyj:

o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-

Matthew 12:38 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.

39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas [NKJV: Jonah]:

40 For as Jonas [NKJV: Jonah] was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth

-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o




LET US START THIS JOURNEY TOGETHER!

To understand this we need to understand the culture of the hebrews of that time, so I will explian a couple things as we go forward into the word.
Let us also be mindful in the middle east in the messiah time and from creation the day started from the setting of the sun in the evening and ends at the setting of the sun the following evening.

:rtty:
THE EVENING

:iuoio:
THE MORNING

Reference:The Book of Genesis chapter 1
:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.



**MOVING ON LET US LOOK AT SOME MORE FACTS GATHERED FROM ANOTHER BROTHER ON THE THREAD** "BUDDAROLL" THANK YOU!

clappa

Messiah died @ 3pm on Wednesday but had to be entombed before sundown because Thursday was the the High Day Sabbath of Passover. So... Approx 6pm


In order to be 3 days and 3 nights (no it is not a Hebrewism, this is a strict 72 hrs) Messiah would have had to have risen in that 3 hr period on Saturday, the weekly Sabbath.

It was not discovered until just before Dawn on Sunday that He had risen, but that does not mean that He rose at Dawn on Sunday.


Since Saturday was the Sabbath and there were travel restrictions, I do not think (but I am not sure) that they would have been able to go to the tomb on Saturday with the oils and herbs.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O--O-O-O-O-O--O

**EXACTLY SO! AND I AGREE WITH THIS FINDING ABOVE 100% AND WE WILL JUSTIFY THIS BELOW**!


LOOK HERE IS WHAT THROWS OF PEOPLE AND IT WAS BY DESIGN!

Luke chapter 23
54 And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on.

55 And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid.

56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment.

NOTES
:This paticular sabbath was the holy convocation on the day of passover.It is a known law that if the high holy day fell on a week day.It is to be declared a sabbath


:YY6UUU:


NOTES:Now look what king james and the other bibles did to confuse the masses.They did not specify the three days after which will take us unto the weekly Shabbat.They jumped right into the first day sunday giving the impression it was a weekly sabbath that was approaching as I showed in chapter 23.

Also we have another account in the book of Matthew Chapter 28 which Identifies the real time of the sabbath as it was drawing toward the first day.

Like I explained about creation the new day starts from evening sunset then the morning, this account is more realistic



account #1
Matthew Chapter 28
28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.


account #2
Luke chapter 24
1 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.

2 And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre.

3And they entered in, and found not the body of the Lord Jesus.

:yjghf:THANK EH'YEH FOR THE WORD!


To verify your answer if you check back 3 days and 3 nights from sunday morning. You will have messiah being crucified thursday morning early before sunrise.That is erroneous
you are very correct





NOTES:Many of you will ask, why will the church lie to us? The answer is Rome is not your friend wake up! They took counsel together with their bloodline edomites pharasees seeds and killed your messiah.

They killed and destroyed your peoples making them slaves in the four corners of the earth.They gave you their pagan worship centers and false doctrines and you recieve it gladfully and in the mean time rebelling against your creator in your disloyal and adulterated false relationship.


O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-


LET US LOOK AT MOTIVES AND THE NUMBER ONE THING WAS TO INSTITUTE THE SUNDAY WORSHIP.USING THE MESSIAH'S CRUCIFIXION WAS THE IDEAL CATALYST TO WIN THE HEARTS OF THE SIMPLEMINDED.

:cfgjjhj:



Origins of Good Friday. Did you ever wonder why Good Friday is recognized as the day Jesus died and Sunday as the day he arose but yet had trouble explaining how he could thus be buried for three days and three nights? (Matthew 12:40; Matthew 27:63; Mark 8:31; Mark 9:31; Mark 10:34)

*The answer is simple: He didn't actually die on "Good Friday." The Chaldeans offered cakes to Ishtar on the equivalent of the day we know as Good Friday.*

*And Sun Day Easter is in place to commemorate the resurrection of the sun god Tammuz*
:nbvbvc:

When the established church wanted to appease the paganistic people in order to "convert" them to Christianity, they moved the dates accordingly. Jesus actually died on the day of Preparation of Passover Week, which that year occurred on Wednesday (John 19:14, 31-42). Thursday was the Sabbath of the Passover. Friday, Christ was still in the tomb. Saturday was the "regular" Sabbath.

Jesus arose just before the Saturday Sabbath was concluded, which was jsut before the first day of the week commenced at sunset. For further clarification of the days concerning Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection, see Matthew 27:50-28:7; Mark 15:25-16:6; Luke 23:44-24:8; John 19:14-20:17.

Who celebrates Easter? Pagans, who base their celebrations (including Halloween) on the phases of the moon, celebrate Easter. Christians, however, are clearly forbidden from observing this pagan celebration (Deuteronomy 12:30-31; Luke 4:8; 1 Corinthians 10:20-22; Ephesians 5:11).

There is a good reason why the early church never spoke of Easter and why there is absolutely no indication of the observance of the Easter festival in the New Testament.

(The only exception is a mistranslation in the King James version of Acts 12:4, where it gives the word "Easter" instead of the correction translation "Passover.") It was not an oversight on God's part; Christians simply are not to celebrate Easter, a pagan festival.


does it really matter what day the savior was resurrected?
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Early Church ALWAYS said the Resurrection
happened on Sunday morning.

The practice of meeting together on the first day of the week for the celebration of the Eucharistic Sacrifice is indicated in Acts 20:7; 1 Corinthians 16:2; in Apocalypse 1:10, it is called the Lord's day. In the Didache (14) the injunction is given: "On the Lord's Day come together and break bread. And give thanks (offer the Eucharist), after confessing your sins that your sacrifice may be pure". St. Ignatius (Ep. ad Magnes. ix) speaks of Christians as "no longer observing the Sabbath, but living in the observance of the Lord's Day, on which also Our Life rose again". In the Epistle of Barnabas (xv) we read: "Wherefore, also, we keep the eight day (i.e. the first of the week) with joyfulness, the day also on which Jesus rose again from the dead".
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happened on Sunday morning.

The practice of meeting together on the first day of the week for the celebration of the Eucharistic Sacrifice is indicated in Acts 20:7; 1 Corinthians 16:2; in Apocalypse 1:10, it is called the Lord's day. In the Didache (14) the injunction is given: "On the Lord's Day come together and break bread. And give thanks (offer the Eucharist), after confessing your sins that your sacrifice may be pure". St. Ignatius (Ep. ad Magnes. ix) speaks of Christians as "no longer observing the Sabbath, but living in the observance of the Lord's Day, on which also Our Life rose again". In the Epistle of Barnabas (xv) we read: "Wherefore, also, we keep the eight day (i.e. the first of the week) with joyfulness, the day also on which Jesus rose again from the dead".
 Quoting: RDprofessor


please!
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Thank you again you few disciples who contributed to making this information avaialble to the young believers.It is my desire that the prideful will look at these facts and really humble themselves before the most high God Eh'Yeh

There is that belief that messiah was resurrected on a Sunday morning and it is not biblical or factual.It will be good to see fellow believers gettin together to resolve this myth though some hold it as factual.
YYTYY
I will love someone to show me how you get three days and three nights from good friday evening to sunday morning

Based on this myth a new doctrine was introduced which I will comment on after your views and present more scriptural eveidencethat refutes this opinion


NOTES
This is my belief and this is true and can be found in the scriptures!
**Messiah is the lord of the sabbath and in him we come into his rest.When he was on the cross just like his father created the world and rested on the sabbath and proclaimed it holy so did messiah rest of his labour on the hallowed day and aslo said it is finished!**.



I will give a starting point with two passages of scripture and we can work from there."*We see messiah is cut off in the middle of a prophetic week*"

The book of Daniel chapter 9

IOYU
Then shall the street walls be buyled agayne Ixij. wekes,
but with harde troublous tyme. After these
Ixij. wekes, shall Christ be slayne,

5 they shall haue no pleasure in him. Then shall there
come a people with the prynce, and destroye
the cite and the sanctuary : and his ende shall come as the water flood. But the desolacion shall continue till the ende of the battle.

He shall make a stronge bonde with many,
for the space of a weke : and when the weke is half gone, he shal put downe the slayne and meatoffringe
.

And in the temple there shall be an abhominable desolacion, till it haue destroyed all. And it is concluded, and this waistinge shall continue vnto the ende.


Here we have confirmation of 3 days and 3 nights in the grave

Jonah 1:17 Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.

jtyj

o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-

Matthew 12:38 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee.

39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas [NKJV: Jonah]:

40 For as Jonas [NKJV: Jonah] was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth

-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o




LET US START THIS JOURNEY TOGETHER!

To understand this we need to understand the culture of the hebrews of that time, so I will explian a couple things as we go forward into the word.
Let us also be mindful in the middle east in the messiah time and from creation the day started from the setting of the sun in the evening and ends at the setting of the sun the following evening.

rtty
THE EVENING

iuoio
THE MORNING

Reference:The Book of Genesis chapter 1
:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.



**MOVING ON LET US LOOK AT SOME MORE FACTS GATHERED FROM ANOTHER BROTHER ON THE THREAD** "BUDDAROLL" THANK YOU!

clappa

Messiah died @ 3pm on Wednesday but had to be entombed before sundown because Thursday was the the High Day Sabbath of Passover. So... Approx 6pm


In order to be 3 days and 3 nights (no it is not a Hebrewism, this is a strict 72 hrs) Messiah would have had to have risen in that 3 hr period on Saturday, the weekly Sabbath.

It was not discovered until just before Dawn on Sunday that He had risen, but that does not mean that He rose at Dawn on Sunday.


Since Saturday was the Sabbath and there were travel restrictions, I do not think (but I am not sure) that they would have been able to go to the tomb on Saturday with the oils and herbs.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O--O-O-O-O-O--O

**EXACTLY SO! AND I AGREE WITH THIS FINDING ABOVE 100% AND WE WILL JUSTIFY THIS BELOW**!


LOOK HERE IS WHAT THROWS OF PEOPLE AND IT WAS BY DESIGN!

Luke chapter 23
54 And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on.

55 And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid.

56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment.

NOTES
:This paticular sabbath was the holy convocation on the day of passover.It is a known law that if the high holy day fell on a week day.It is to be declared a sabbath


YY6UUU


NOTES:Now look what king james and the other bibles did to confuse the masses.They did not specify the three days after which will take us unto the weekly Shabbat.They jumped right into the first day sunday giving the impression it was a weekly sabbath that was approaching as I showed in chapter 23.

Also we have another account in the book of Matthew Chapter 28 which Identifies the real time of the sabbath as it was drawing toward the first day.

Like I explained about creation the new day starts from evening sunset then the morning, this account is more realistic



account #1
Matthew Chapter 28
28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.


account #2
Luke chapter 24
1 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.

2 And they found the stone rolled away from the sepulchre.

3And they entered in, and found not the body of the Lord Jesus.

yjghfTHANK EH'YEH FOR THE WORD!


To verify your answer if you check back 3 days and 3 nights from sunday morning. You will have messiah being crucified thursday morning early before sunrise.That is erroneous
you are very correct





NOTES:Many of you will ask, why will the church lie to us? The answer is Rome is not your friend wake up! They took counsel together with their bloodline edomites pharasees seeds and killed your messiah.

They killed and destroyed your peoples making them slaves in the four corners of the earth.They gave you their pagan worship centers and false doctrines and you recieve it gladfully and in the mean time rebelling against your creator in your disloyal and adulterated false relationship.


O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-


LET US LOOK AT MOTIVES AND THE NUMBER ONE THING WAS TO INSTITUTE THE SUNDAY WORSHIP.USING THE MESSIAH'S CRUCIFIXION WAS THE IDEAL CATALYST TO WIN THE HEARTS OF THE SIMPLEMINDED.

cfgjjhj



Origins of Good Friday. Did you ever wonder why Good Friday is recognized as the day Jesus died and Sunday as the day he arose but yet had trouble explaining how he could thus be buried for three days and three nights? (Matthew 12:40; Matthew 27:63; Mark 8:31; Mark 9:31; Mark 10:34)

*The answer is simple: He didn't actually die on "Good Friday." The Chaldeans offered cakes to Ishtar on the equivalent of the day we know as Good Friday.*

*And Sun Day Easter is in place to commemorate the resurrection of the sun god Tammuz*
nbvbvc

When the established church wanted to appease the paganistic people in order to "convert" them to Christianity, they moved the dates accordingly. Jesus actually died on the day of Preparation of Passover Week, which that year occurred on Wednesday (John 19:14, 31-42). Thursday was the Sabbath of the Passover. Friday, Christ was still in the tomb. Saturday was the "regular" Sabbath.

Jesus arose just before the Saturday Sabbath was concluded, which was jsut before the first day of the week commenced at sunset. For further clarification of the days concerning Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection, see Matthew 27:50-28:7; Mark 15:25-16:6; Luke 23:44-24:8; John 19:14-20:17.

Who celebrates Easter? Pagans, who base their celebrations (including Halloween) on the phases of the moon, celebrate Easter. Christians, however, are clearly forbidden from observing this pagan celebration (Deuteronomy 12:30-31; Luke 4:8; 1 Corinthians 10:20-22; Ephesians 5:11).

There is a good reason why the early church never spoke of Easter and why there is absolutely no indication of the observance of the Easter festival in the New Testament.

(The only exception is a mistranslation in the King James version of Acts 12:4, where it gives the word "Easter" instead of the correction translation "Passover.") It was not an oversight on God's part; Christians simply are not to celebrate Easter, a pagan festival.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431


does it really matter what day the savior was resurrected?

THANK YOU ...YOU ARE MARVELOUSLY BRIGHT!
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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AMEN!

Well that just destroyed easter.

Let's tear up that sacred cow called christmas!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5786799


yep easter so happened fell around the same season of the passover. That is why sometimes passover will be around the same time as the easter celebration.Reason passover is observed by the sighting of the new moon which was commanded by our heavenly father.

Easter sunday is the solstice season recocgnition sun worship
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


OP,. it was for this day, Ressurection of Sol Invictus. This alignment happened on a SUN DAY , FULL MOON

Many societies and Orders commemorated this day...

The "Boy" would be five years old coming up... this Christmas..

:muralboy:


Here is what the alignments looked like for this special child

:moonfeet::snakecross:

Hopefully by now many of you have read this thread.
Thread: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny

The first Fact is that on December 23rd 2007 we have a major, unique special celestial event. Make no mistake, all of these things happening at this time are major events on there own. Put them all together and we have the Gret galactic Cross event. Our Sun will be on a Galactic cross along with other amazing celestial events all on the same day!

A very remarkable planetary/galactic configuration occurs on December 23rd and 24th 2007. The configuration on December 23 — Mars, Earth, Sun, Mercury, Jupiter, Galactic Centre — is shown in the graphic simulation linked below; it becomes even more remarkable in that it will be accompanied by the Full Moon (conjunct Mars) at about 2 a.m. on December 24 when a simultaneous Venus square Neptune occurs. It is even more remarkable in that the Pluto/Sun conjunction appears exactly on the Winter Solstice, just past conjunction with the Galactic Centre.



Link below is the view from Mars toward the Jupiter, Mars, Earth, Mercury, Pluto alignment toward the Galactic Centre on 23 December 2007 which occurs just after the Pluto/Jupiter (Heliocentric) conjunction on 23 November 2007. NASA Solar System Simulator for 23rd Dec 2007
[link to space.jpl.nasa.gov]
What is not shown is Pluto (which would be to Jupiter's right) Saturn, which follows down from Venus, and Uranus and Neptune. Saturn and Neptune form the cross's t-member. It is a 23/12 configuration. There will be a full moon on Dec. 23, 2007

Ok, now look at this famous French landmark, the Hendaye Cross.
[link to www.jayweidner.com]

this cross has been wrote about quite a bit in conspiracy and special interest circles for quite some time now.
The Great Cross at Hendaye appears to be describing not only the end of the great four ages of the Hindu Yuga system but also the four ages of alchemical chronological time keeping. According to the cross at Hendaye the Iron Age, or the Kali Yuga, will be coming to an end with the galactic alignment on the winter solstice of December 21st 2012.
[link to www.2012theodyssey.com]

The big problem is that there is no Great galactic Cross event in 2012 whatsoever. Go through the simulator and you will find that the most special celestial event in 2012 is a conjunction with Venus.
The event that is being depicted on this cross are happening now, december 23rd 2007.

All through History people have known of this event and when it would occur. All masons and secret societies of the ages. They hid these hidden messages in public view so that the ones that have eyes could see it and decipher it.
[link to www.tartanthemes.com]
Look at this Celtic cross, from before the New testament and the birth of Jesus Christ.
We were already depicting Suns on crosses from before the time of the crucifiction. The Ancients were telling us about this event , the most important events that happen in our History. Perhaps some ancient record of the last time it happened. And warning us when it will happen again. This reason alone was the most significant in Man studying Astrology.
Here are more images of the Sun on the Cross.

[link to www.scanglas.se]
Ancient Iron age pottery.
[link to images.google.co.uk]

[link to www.drcolinparsons.org.uk]
Ancient italy
[link to images.google.co.uk]

[link to hamsa.org]
Ancient Persian Cross
[link to hamsa.org]

Look at this from the US Bible.
[link to www.usbible.com]
Hidden away again, in plain sight.
In fact this image is all throughout our history.

[link to www.geocities.com]
Ancient Egypt

[link to upload.wikimedia.org]
The Viking Sun cross

[link to www.qedata.se]
Lithuanian sun cross

Nazi Eagle
[link to axis101.bizland.com]

[link to www.crwflags.com]
Norwegian Navy

[link to www.medal-medaille.com]
Masonic order of the Sun

[link to www.fireandrescuedecals.com]


[link to www.fireandrescuedecals.com]

So the image of a Sun on a cross has been passed down to us from many Millenia gone, from before recorded history. The ancients left us a message, one that told us of a special event that happens once every 26,000 years. The Mayans give us the date of 2012. The problem is that the event is in 2007 and not 2012, that is if this is not 2012 after all.
Either way it does not matter.
The event is this year, december 23rd 2007. The Great Galactic cross. The story hidden and known now mainly only by secret societies and now us. The masons have always known, it is one of their biggest secrets. They have hidden the real date in the washington architecture. All the info is in the first link. Skull and Bones set their watches 5 minutes ahead. This is known secretly to mean 5 years.
The new testament of the bible are a Romanic Jewish relatively new take on the original story. All the language was sexed up to match the times and to try and bring control over the masses for a new millenia. It worked.
The truth even still comes out of the words though.
If you swap the bible for a celestial event with the sun on the cross, all the other characters of revelation make sense.
The Woman of revelation is Venus. The 3 visable comets on the 23rd will be the 3 wise men. The Moon will also be blood red after a perfect Lunar eclipse with mars, also on the same remarkable evening.

Bottom line, no matter what you believe.
The Great Galactic cross Event on December 23rd 2007 is the biggest event in Humanities History, and Future. Total fact. And you have 17 days till it happens.
One of the biggest secrets of TPTB exposed for everyone to see. The Knowledge that every Man should know.
 Quoting: MJ 159973
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AMEN!

Well that just destroyed easter.

Let's tear up that sacred cow called christmas!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5786799


yep easter so happened fell around the same season of the passover. That is why sometimes passover will be around the same time as the easter celebration.Reason passover is observed by the sighting of the new moon which was commanded by our heavenly father.

Easter sunday is the solstice season recocgnition sun worship
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


OP,. it was for this day, Ressurection of Sol Invictus. This alignment happened on a SUN DAY , FULL MOON

Many societies and Orders commemorated this day...

The "Boy" would be five years old coming up... this Christmas..

:muralboy:


Here is what the alignments looked like for this special child

:moonfeet::snakecross:

Hopefully by now many of you have read this thread.
Thread: December 23rd 2007 - The Day of Destiny

The first Fact is that on December 23rd 2007 we have a major, unique special celestial event. Make no mistake, all of these things happening at this time are major events on there own. Put them all together and we have the Gret galactic Cross event. Our Sun will be on a Galactic cross along with other amazing celestial events all on the same day!

A very remarkable planetary/galactic configuration occurs on December 23rd and 24th 2007. The configuration on December 23 — Mars, Earth, Sun, Mercury, Jupiter, Galactic Centre — is shown in the graphic simulation linked below; it becomes even more remarkable in that it will be accompanied by the Full Moon (conjunct Mars) at about 2 a.m. on December 24 when a simultaneous Venus square Neptune occurs. It is even more remarkable in that the Pluto/Sun conjunction appears exactly on the Winter Solstice, just past conjunction with the Galactic Centre.



Link below is the view from Mars toward the Jupiter, Mars, Earth, Mercury, Pluto alignment toward the Galactic Centre on 23 December 2007 which occurs just after the Pluto/Jupiter (Heliocentric) conjunction on 23 November 2007. NASA Solar System Simulator for 23rd Dec 2007
[link to space.jpl.nasa.gov]
What is not shown is Pluto (which would be to Jupiter's right) Saturn, which follows down from Venus, and Uranus and Neptune. Saturn and Neptune form the cross's t-member. It is a 23/12 configuration. There will be a full moon on Dec. 23, 2007

Ok, now look at this famous French landmark, the Hendaye Cross.
[link to www.jayweidner.com]

this cross has been wrote about quite a bit in conspiracy and special interest circles for quite some time now.
The Great Cross at Hendaye appears to be describing not only the end of the great four ages of the Hindu Yuga system but also the four ages of alchemical chronological time keeping. According to the cross at Hendaye the Iron Age, or the Kali Yuga, will be coming to an end with the galactic alignment on the winter solstice of December 21st 2012.
[link to www.2012theodyssey.com]

The big problem is that there is no Great galactic Cross event in 2012 whatsoever. Go through the simulator and you will find that the most special celestial event in 2012 is a conjunction with Venus.
The event that is being depicted on this cross are happening now, december 23rd 2007.

All through History people have known of this event and when it would occur. All masons and secret societies of the ages. They hid these hidden messages in public view so that the ones that have eyes could see it and decipher it.
[link to www.tartanthemes.com]
Look at this Celtic cross, from before the New testament and the birth of Jesus Christ.
We were already depicting Suns on crosses from before the time of the crucifiction. The Ancients were telling us about this event , the most important events that happen in our History. Perhaps some ancient record of the last time it happened. And warning us when it will happen again. This reason alone was the most significant in Man studying Astrology.
Here are more images of the Sun on the Cross.

[link to www.scanglas.se]
Ancient Iron age pottery.
[link to images.google.co.uk]

[link to www.drcolinparsons.org.uk]
Ancient italy
[link to images.google.co.uk]

[link to hamsa.org]
Ancient Persian Cross
[link to hamsa.org]

Look at this from the US Bible.
[link to www.usbible.com]
Hidden away again, in plain sight.
In fact this image is all throughout our history.

[link to www.geocities.com]
Ancient Egypt

[link to upload.wikimedia.org]
The Viking Sun cross

[link to www.qedata.se]
Lithuanian sun cross

Nazi Eagle
[link to axis101.bizland.com]

[link to www.crwflags.com]
Norwegian Navy

[link to www.medal-medaille.com]
Masonic order of the Sun

[link to www.fireandrescuedecals.com]


[link to www.fireandrescuedecals.com]

So the image of a Sun on a cross has been passed down to us from many Millenia gone, from before recorded history. The ancients left us a message, one that told us of a special event that happens once every 26,000 years. The Mayans give us the date of 2012. The problem is that the event is in 2007 and not 2012, that is if this is not 2012 after all.
Either way it does not matter.
The event is this year, december 23rd 2007. The Great Galactic cross. The story hidden and known now mainly only by secret societies and now us. The masons have always known, it is one of their biggest secrets. They have hidden the real date in the washington architecture. All the info is in the first link. Skull and Bones set their watches 5 minutes ahead. This is known secretly to mean 5 years.
The new testament of the bible are a Romanic Jewish relatively new take on the original story. All the language was sexed up to match the times and to try and bring control over the masses for a new millenia. It worked.
The truth even still comes out of the words though.
If you swap the bible for a celestial event with the sun on the cross, all the other characters of revelation make sense.
The Woman of revelation is Venus. The 3 visable comets on the 23rd will be the 3 wise men. The Moon will also be blood red after a perfect Lunar eclipse with mars, also on the same remarkable evening.

Bottom line, no matter what you believe.
The Great Galactic cross Event on December 23rd 2007 is the biggest event in Humanities History, and Future. Total fact. And you have 17 days till it happens.
One of the biggest secrets of TPTB exposed for everyone to see. The Knowledge that every Man should know.
 Quoting: MJ 159973

 Quoting: APOLLYON ELNATHAN

I saw that murial before but was neve able to interpret the meaning,,thank you
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
:knoup:
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OP, heres some on Sunday and Mithras

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Christianity's biggest rival during the first few centuries of its existence was Mithraism. Mithraism, the most popular of the mystery religions, had Persian roots and involves the worship of the Sun God, Mithra. [2] During this time, Mithraism was virtually the official religion of the Roman Empire, being very popular especially with the military. [3]

Many rituals and beliefs of Mithraism seemed so closely related to the Christian one that it becomes impossible to deny its influence on nascent Christianity. The Mithraists had a special day dedicated to their god. It was the first day of the week, which they appropriately called Sun-day, the "day of our Lord". [4] Mithra was the God of the upper and nether world and it is he who will judge men's deeds. [5] The Jewish thinker, Philo had already identified the Logos with the Sun, it was therefore natural and inevitable that the early Christians should identify Jesus with such a symbol. Sunday became established as the Lord's Day for the Christians as well. [6] From this observance of Sunday, the myth eventually evolved to connect the rising of Jesus with that day. It is worth noting that the Mithraist ritual involve the liturgical representation of the death, burial (also in a rock tomb!) and resurrection of the god Mithra.
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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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what's that got to do with the price of beans?

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